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I took September LSAT but ended up cancelling the score.
I am 31 week into my pregnancy and my due date overlaps with December test, so instead of postponing the test, I decided to go ahead and take it for the experience of it.
I had about 3 months to prepare for the September test and the more I studied, the more I felt lost.
Also, with pregnancy and a full time job, I couldn't spend as much time studying as I wished.
My biggest issue is timing. English is my second language and even though I do not have comprehension problem, my reading speed is slow. (less than 240 word/min)
I believe this is something that I can train myself for the next few months.
I do want to make a better study plan this time since I have more time in my hand.
With 11 months to go, at which point should I sign up for 7 sage prep classes ( I am planing to sign up for the basic one)?
Even though I am planning to continue with my study after the delivery, I am expecting December and January will be really difficult to spare a lot of time on studying with the new born.
My only study materials in the past were Mike Kim's 'LSAT trainer' and Actual 10s.
I've used 7sage's LG videos for LG explanation and really liked it.
I do have most of the past prep tests. Do I need to buy any other books?
I have heard a lot of good things about Power Score Bibles. Is 7sage alone enough or will I benefit from more prep materials such as Power Score?
Any thoughts/ advice will be deeply appreciated.
Thank you!
Dear all,
I am usually a logic games guru but the prep test 75 i was complete garbage. idk why but i could not figure out the games in time. Does anyone have any knowledge as to why the pt 75 games are harder.
Does anyone have any advice about when it is a good idea to log into their Proc U account on test day? Also, I heard someone say that we might have to turn on/off webcam mirroring? Your insight would be appreciated.
I hit a wall early in my prep. I logged every wrong answer religiously in the notes section. But after a month, I realized I wasn't learning; I was just hoarding my failures in a list I never wanted to look at again.
I was spending hours managing data when I should have been fixing the underlying logic flaws and rewiring my old ways of thinking. I realized that re-reading the same question wasn't helping—I was just remembering the answer, not learning the rule.
The inefficiency was driving me crazy. About 70% of my journal was stuff I had already learned from, but it was buried in with the difficult concepts I still needed to work on. I was wasting an hour a day reviewing a massive wall of text just to find the few questions that actually mattered.
I eventually built a tool to fix the workflow. It filters out what I already know and uses AI to verify I actually know the pattern of the difficult ones by generating new variations. If I got it right, it schedules review for longer. If I get it wrong, it shortens the review period so I can focus on the questions that trip me up most. I went from a 157 to a 173 in a few months, and I really think it's because I used this as a "hyper efficient" wrong answer journal to find the signal in the noise.
Does anyone else have a good system for "pruning" their wrong answer journal? Or do you just let the list grow forever, or skip out on using it entirely?
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Is it just me or did anyone find the RC on 79 way harder than usual? Is this a trend that continues to the 80s?
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I'm in my third year of undergrad and planning to do two more years to improve my gpa. I have never written the LSAT before and have registered for August 29 2020! I'm only taking one course this summer and thus, I thought it would be a good time to study for the LSAT The issue is, I have now(unfortunately) planned a routine for both (lSAT and the course) and I fear I don't have enough time to study for it. I also registered for August because I plan on taking 4/5 courses in the fall (although the LSAT date is during the fall break) and I was planning to register for 7sage to study for the lSAT on August 29. I'm conflicted between the two and was wondering which one is more beneficial?
Sorry this is long and I haven't proof it yet for errors, but if you would like to read my email to LSAC regarding my terrible experience today with the October Flex, here it is. As prospective law students, we deserve SO much better than this.
To whom it may concern,
I took the October LSAT flex today. After months of studying and putting in my best effort, I was positive coming into it. I got set up my dad’s office since it has the fastest internet in my house, I checked that my connection was good (about 300 megabits per second) and logged into ProctorU. Come 9:10, when my exam was set to start, I clicked ‘begin’ and the process of checking my video and microphone connection happened almost immediately, but I was told my lighting did not pass the test. I turned my light on brighter in the room and pressed ‘retry’ to recheck the lighting. This time, it wouldn’t seem to load. I waited 20 minutes, attempted to speak to multiple technicians, but nobody was responding or could help me. I was afraid of exiting out of the window in case I wouldn’t be let back in. After 30 minutes, I took the risk of closing the window and reopened, logged back into ProctorU and after only a minute, I was set up and ready to receive my proctor. I felt a wave of relief when my proctor said I wasn’t too late for the test.
My proctor was very helpful with getting me ready for the test, checking my surrounding, etc. I started the test with the Logic Games section. About 5 minutes into the section my test was interrupted by a screen saying I was disconnected from the proctor, and my test was also stopped. I opened the chat box with my proctor and told them it had disconnected. They helped me get back into the section but before they could, they had me go into the system preferences of my computer and do a lot of troubleshooting, then eventually I had to reboot my computer. This was not by choice, but what my proctor, who had control of my screen, was requesting of me. With nothing else to do, I obliged. My computer screen went black for about 15 seconds then came back on. I was terrified. The proctor then told me I could begin my test again and that my test was paused at the initial disconnect, meaning I wouldn’t lose any time in the test. But as I started the test again, I am almost positive I lost time in the section. At least a few minutes had passed that I did not get back in that games section. I finished the section, regardless, putting in my absolute best effort and trying not to think about what had just occurred.
I began my Logic Reasoning section next. 20 minutes in, I coincidentally check my time and see that I have 15 minutes left. A few seconds later, the same disconnect that happened in the Logic Games section occurs. This time, I tell my proctor I have disconnected yet again and they lead me back into the exam. This was only a detour of about a minute and I did not lose any time in the section but was sufficiently paused at the time of my disconnect. As I am working through the section, suddenly I see a notification bouncing at the bottom of my screen from my proctor, and I think, “why is my proctor messaging me while I am trying to focus on my test?” Of course, I don’t react or respond to the notification and continue, although I am very distracted by the bouncing icon. A little while later a new tab suddenly opens on my browser and disrupts my test. It is not your average pop up, but a ProctorU support page requesting that I submit a survey regarding my technical assistance. Mind you, this was during my Logical Reasoning section with about 10 minutes left while completing the most difficult questions in the section. Stunned and disappointed, I immediately close the window. Again, I see a notification at the bottom of my screen from my proctor. I ignore it and haphazardly finish the section, however the interruptions undoubtably affected my performance negatively.
As soon as the time is called for the Logical Reasoning section, I have 60 seconds before the Reading Comprehension section begins and I check to see what my proctor had said. There was a second chat box opened (I assume it was because I had to re download the zip file that allowed the screen sharing by the proctor) and in the text box it said something along the lines of, “you have left the testing screen” presumably talking about when the tech support survey screen appeared 10 minutes before. To be honest, I don’t remember exactly what the chat box told me, but I was worried my test had been flagged for something completely out of my control. This carried into my performance on the Reading Comprehension section. I remember the chat saying I had been disconnected from my proctor, but the first chat box with my initial proctor was still open. So I messaged them defending myself and saying, “I did not leave the screen, a new tab opened during the test from ProctorU and I closed it within seconds”. I now had 15 seconds left until my Reading Comprehension section began. Petrified that my months of hard work had been for nothing, I finished the third section without any disconnects, and my test was complete.
This experience has left me feeling rather defeated. I went into this test with a great mindset and countless hours of studying under my belt. I find these technical issues to be extremely unfair and unprofessional. The internet speed in my house is impeccable and has never been an issue before, so I am left searching for a reason why my test would disconnect multiple times. Luckily I do not suffer from a diagnosed anxiety disorder, because this would certainly be something to trigger a panic attack during the test. That being said, it it can be reasonable expected for any normal person to be affected negatively by the stress of this type of circumstance. Thankfully, I was able to stay composed and complete my sections, but I did so with fear in the back of my mind rather than the 100% concentrated focus I expect when taking such an important test.
This was one of the most pertinent days of my life and to go through this nightmare is beyond disheartening. I had read about technical difficulties similar to mine since the first flex test in August on the 7sage forum, and I prayed nightly that I would be luckier. Unfortunately, this format of the LSAT does not only favor those with intellect, but those who are lucky enough to not experience a technical difficulty. Where is the justice for those of us who have lost time on our sections, for those of us who have planned out an entire year based on taking a specific LSAT date and have etched out the perfect amount of time to complete applications but are now impeded by uneasiness and worry as we may have to take the exam in January and apply later than the rest of the pool, or even worse, wait another year to apply to law school? As future law students, we deserve a lot better than this system of consistent failure. I sit here, still, in utter shock and I wonder if I will be able to attend a satisfactory law school next fall.
As a reparation for my suffering today I request a full refund that I may use to take a later test, and a confirmation that my test has not be flagged.
I look forward to speaking further about this situation. Until then, have a great day.
-Lucia Izzolo
Admin Note: Related thread is located here: https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/25548/october-lsat-flex-issues
Anybody shoot June, 2014?
I just came across this bit from the Top Law Schools forum (http://www.top-law-schools.com/writing-effective-why-x-addendum.html):
"Second, if you're applying Early Decision, a Why X addendum is redundant. Applying ED tells them you are certain to go there if accepted, and with that already true, they probably do not care about your reason. In a sense, applying ED is the ultimate Why X essay, with an action that says more than a 500 word addendum ever could. If it's early enough, you're sure it's the school of your dreams, and your numbers aren't good enough to get scholarship money (early decision applicants rarely receive scholarships on admittance because they are bound to that specific school and don’t need extra incentives), you're better off applying ED than trying to write a Why X addendum."
I'm planning on submitting an application by November 10 for my early decision school, and was prepared to write a Why X essay. So I'm just wondering how true the above is. If it is true, I'd love to submit my app even earlier.
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Hey all,
I'll dive right into it - I am struggling with something called an inadvertent memory recall (made the name up) when re-doing practice tests. I don't know if this is a real "science" thing or if someone in the community mentioned this already (searched after doing some light research) but its something I'm struggling with. I have my own solutions posted below and extremely curious to hear what you're thoughts are to avoid this habit.
Here's an example, about 2-3 months ago I wrote PT 73 and recently re-took it. I noticed that I was inadvertently 'lax' when doing both LR sections, which at the time felt strange. While I was in 'lax mode' (which I try to avoid at all times) in the LR sections, however, I caught myself recalling bits of information I remembered up when I first took the exam! This is clearly a big no-no as it can lead to a highly inaccurate score, hinder my ability to get better and, worst of all, it may as well be a false indicator of genuine improvements. My last PT was a 168, but after taking PT 73 my score was 155! I practically went back to my 'old self' when I re-took this exam when, clearly, I improved.
My 2 solutions to this accident are as follows:
Purposefully give yourself tunnel vision and magnify into each word when reading the LR stim.
If a piece of 'old self' information creeps up on you while doing an LR question, quickly sling your ass back to reality (much like a rubber band) and restart at the top of the stim.
That's my 2 cents. Curious to hear other remedies or advice!
I picked E for this one, when the correct choice was C.
I realize that C is the VERY opposite and E is just less relevant (though still logically opposite) to the theory. So for LEAST questions, should we be looking for the VERY opposite? Or the WEAKEST?
B is definitely a flaw in the argument, but can someone analyze my breakdown of D? Here is my breakdown:
50% of people in the survey believe that politician indicted----->politician resign.
35% believe that that politician resign----->politician convicted.
Therefore, more people think politician indicted----->politician resign than those that believe politician convicted---->politician resign.
What I am looking for: First, the conclusion is about "people" in general, but we are using a survey/poll. This introduces the possibility that the poll was biased/unrepresentative. Second, the conclusion makes a sufficiency/necessity conflation in the second comparative statement (about conviction). I didn't see this at first since, and I caught this flaw during BR.
Answer A: This is OK statistical/inductive reasoning. This would describe the flaw if the answer choice put the words "potentially biased" in front of sample.
Answer B: This is the correct answer since the 35% think resign--->convicted. But, the conclusion is about convicted--->resign. Pretty obvious answer choice if you read the last sentence carefully.
Answer C: What term is ambiguous? At best, the argument assumes that "politicians" and "elected officials" are the same thing, but that is an OK assumption.
Answer D: This is what I chose since I failed to see the sufficiency/necessity conflation originally. Would this be correct if the conclusion was correctly stated (if the comparative statement stated resign---->convicted)? Since the two responses convey different beliefs and since the argument is drawing a conclusion/comparison between them, is that a flaw? I am not so sure since the conclusion is about there being "more people" believing X than Y. Since both question were part of the same poll (and presumably same sample size) and since 50% is larger than 35% of that same sample size, would the argument have been valid (assuming there was not sample bias as well)?
Answer E: Why can't the premises all be true?
Hi guys,
If I cancelled my score, can I still do the writing sample?
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Hi everyone, I’m looking for a tutor in the NYC area, preferably a tutor that can meet in person. I need help particularly with logic games and I also need some help with the logical reasoning.
Can someone explain why they chose B over E?
Hi guys! I wanted to get some feedback on this RC question.
The prompt asks for the main idea and the right answer is that 'the views of ecologists and economic growth advocates have only recently become polarized.'
To me, that phrase implies that the passage is about recency. It implies that the passage is primarily dedicated towards explaining a long history of no polarization that has but little time ago turned into a polarized dichotomy.
I agree that the passage accomplishes this, but to me, this accomplishment was used as a template for the author rather than his/her explicit, or even primary purpose.
I detected notes of author view, such as in line 11 when he describes the recent polarization as "sad." On top of that, the way the author describes both sides seems to indicate that he favors the previous attitudes towards the issue, consistent with what Marsh and the Enlightenment thinkers believe. I almost got a sense of sarcasm in how he described the implications of Clements' equilibrium model. The author claims that the model became a "mystique," environmental interference was "taboo," wilderness was "adored." These descriptions made me believe that the author saw followers of this mentality to be radical, cult-like, trendy, and perhaps a form of the "tree-hugger" stereotype.
Back to the first paragraph, the final sentence talks about how the "sad effects" make it "difficult for industry to respond to impact analyses that demand action." This came across as having sympathy for contemporary industries, being pinned down in this polarized climate where (as we would later read) before they could act in harmony with environmentalists and have productive conversations based in compromise and understanding.
With all of that in mind, I was very quick to eliminate D, an answer choice with no reflection of the author's argument/bias, and way too much (in fact, pretty much 100%) emphasis on the mere fact that such a change is recent. Who cares if it's recent? You didn't need to give your opinion and write four paragraphs only to tell us that this polarization is recent. You could easily switch the dates mentioned in the passage, and the meaning would barely change. It would just be polarized ----> not polarized instead of not polarized ----> polarized.
I picked E because I thought it captured the author's sentiment and reflected an idea that the entire passage built to establish. A lot of the passage's content contributes to that idea, while only a few small distinctions affirm that the change happened to be recent.
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-23-section-4-passage-3-passage/
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-23-section-4-passage-3-questions/
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