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The deadline for the June 2014 LSAT is May 6th for the United States, Canada, and the Caribbean! Register soon if you're still intending on taking it for June! Just a happy reminder for my fellow 7sagers!

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So I have identified a problem that I have no idea how to approach. In any given section, I will miss 4 questions. However, I've found that I always know the questions I'm going to miss in advance and that I typically end up overthinking problems that are not realistically complex (3s or 4s). How do I stop myself from second-guessing the complexity of the question and trying to outsmart the test writers? How do y'all convince yourselves that you are right on questions that seem like they are blatantly attempting to trick you, especially considering the time-constraints?

During Blind Review are we allowed to look at our notes/ other materials to help us with questions or should we not look at any external resources?

for question 16, How is the answer (A) unusual expressiveness ?

I get that it's the best answer out of all of them but what's "unusual" about the era in question? how would we justify this?

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Hello! If anyone could clarify where I’m misunderstanding, I would be so grateful!

So the diagram for this is: (B - banker, A - athlete, L - lawyer)

B —> A

L—> /B (the contrapositive would be B —> /L)

—

So you can conclude A (—s—) /L (some athletes are not lawyers- which I believe is the right answer.)

Taking the contrapositive of the first statement is where I have some issues:

/A —> /B

L —> /B

—

/A (—s—) L

And since some is bidirectional, it seems wrongly to read like B (some non-athletes are lawyers or some lawyers are non- athletes)?

I did not initially choose C because the professor never rejected the reasoning in the argument. He simply says that the reasoning should be “discounted”. Am I being too pedantic in this case?

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Hello,

I have reached the final logical reasoning question type: parallel or analogy. This question type has highlighted how much I struggle with mapping out formal logic. It isn't necessarily that I don't understand the principles, but rather, where to begin? Once I watch the explanation video and see the first step, I am able to fully understand how to continue, it's just the initial step.

Furthermore, I especially struggle with identifying all of the different logical reasoning ploys, i.e., reason by analogy, appeal to authority, sample to population generalization, and so on.... It seems like there are so many different subtypes that it's difficult to remember them all. Does anyone have a cheat sheet which simply explains all of these niche logical reasoning tactics?

Thanks so much,

Sav

I have just been watching the videos so far, but I was wondering when I should start doing the practice drills with the videos? Or is it better to watch all the videos before drilling?

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Hi,

I'm starting my lsat studies back up and the study scheduler v2 says to take the June 2007 diagnostic however I plan on taking the new format and I already took that diagnostic when I was originally studying. Should I just start with PT 101 in the new/current format as my diagnostic OR should I skip it and start doing the lessons and save the new format PTs to do once a week. My plan is to start studying the week of July 22nd and study until October, then depending on where i am PT'ing by that point I plan on taking the exam near that time. Any thoughts or advice is much appreciated, thanks!

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Hey Everybody,

Taking the August LSAT and PT'ing in the 170s.

Was wondering if anyone had considered starting at the end of LR sections, spending the most amount of time/mental energy on the generally more difficult last 10 questions, and working their way to the front. So rather than racing through the hardest section of the test while mentally fatigued, you're the "freshest" and have the most time.

Similarly with RC, why not give the most time and energy to the (usually) toughest two passages at the end, rather than the first two?

I can't see an obvious reason this wouldn't work or that there are any significant drawbacks. Although, I'm definitely not the first person to consider this, nor does this seem like the "meta"/something commonly recommended by 7Sage. So there's gotta be some reason to not do it like this right?

Thanks for reading!

For this question I picked A, and then B for final. I now know that A is the right answer, but I want to be sure that I understand why I had gotten this wrong.

For a short recap, Oscar's conclusion is "Thus a country's economic well-being will not be a function of its geographical position but just a matter of its relative success in incorporating those new technologies". Here I am thinking okay cool well-being is determined:

Geographical Position --> Incorporating those new technologies

Now for Sylvia, they counter this because they say that it is due to the poor country (the south as mentioned by Oscar), is not able to acquire the $$$ to incorporate the tech. They conclude by saying that it will only "widen the existing economic gap between north (rich) and south (poor)".

So going into the questions, I chose B because I thought that since the poor countries didn't have $$$ for implementation that it would cause the gap. However, I see that A was right because widening the gap meant that the rich prolly wouldn't know how rich they were unless the poor were some amount of poor? However, what does "natural resources" in A mean? Could it mean economic? Oil? I believe that was a part of what tripped me up, but I believe another was the assumption that I made which didn't allow for me to truly grasp Sylvia's conclusion.

Anyone have any suggestions when going into these questions? Or ways that I can improve in NA?

Just got my June 2024 score back, and although not terrible, I will be rewriting so wanted to ask the following question to redirect my studying. When studying for the June test, I noticed that my BR scores were consistently above 172 (peaking at 177), whereas my PT scores averaged around a 165-166 (peaking at 170). My blind review process usually took the time and a half of an actual PT, so its pretty clear to me that my disproportionate scoring is due to speed issues. There are other factors as well (being able to fool proof LG in BR easily, being able to take mental breaks, etc.), but I think timing is the major issue as opposed to fundamental issues.

I wanted to ask those of you who may have experienced the same thing, how you improved your scores, or in other words, made your BR scores a reality? Since my best, or at least most reliable, section will no longer be on the test, I'm trying to offset the potential for a scoring decrease. I know practice is likely gonna be many people's answers, but I felt that I hit a plateau in terms of timing and improvement, where if I had more time and continued to just practice the way I was, my improvement would have been minimal. This is why I figured I'd ask for any specific advice to help with my issue.

Additionally, I'm willing to spend a bit more money to invest in other prep materials to maybe break out of this plateau (cause I'm rather desperate lol). So any recommendations for prep materials that helped people with this issue would also be greatly appreciated. I'm considering purchasing the Loophole and the RCHero course, so insights into these prep materials and perhaps whether they helped people with speed issues is also greatly appreciated! :)

Sorry for the post, just figured I'd restart my studying by hearing some people's opinions on this. And for those of you who were also not satisfied with your June mark, keep your chin up and keep fighting, soon enough we'll all come out of this having conquered this dastardly test!

I was consistently getting -2 on my PTs and after the April exam, I can't seem to get a PT with an RC score higher than -7. Any advice about how to get out of this rut (soon hopefully)? Any drilling advice for these next couple of days would be beyond useful!

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I initially chose C. This is a good trap answer, a very good trap answer indeed. The trap comes when they say that rural people communicate less. The passage talks about communicating ELETRONICALLY less, not communicating less in general. If you read this quickly, it makes perfect sense. Rural people communicate less electronically, so answer C is correct. However, because answer C is missing electronically, it is wrong. This is very sneaky!!!

Answer A is a classic difficult answer. It perfectly summarizes, which is the job of a good principle answer, but it does so in verbose language that is different from the passage.

Answer B is irrrelevant and introduces new information

Answer D is irrelevant and introduces new information,

Answer E is irrelevant and introduces new information

Watch out! Trap answers are very sneaky!

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Is there a diagnostic test you can take if you plan to take the LSAT in August 2024 or onward from there? Or should I take an old test that still has the LG section?

Hi there! I have just started 7sage and am a little confused what my study schedule should look like. I have just completed my first prep test - but should I have watched videos before that/I don't see drills or practices listed on my customized study schedule?

Dear all,

I scored 168 in the June test, and my goal is to get 172+ in the October test. I am a non-native English speaker and not from the US. I have been studying for this test for two years. I feel I might hit my limit by studying myself and may need help from an expert. There are only three months before the October test, so my time for significant improvement is limited. I am thinking to work with a tutor, but I have no idea which tutor might work best for me since there are so many tutors in 7 Sage. Can you guys kindly recommend one or two tutors to me based on your experience? Thank you very much! I wish you all the best on the LSAT.

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One of the things I have noticed is that it takes me a while to use the foundational lessons in the PTs and drills. I do not want to use the PTs too much as I am worried that I will exhaust them. Other than using PTs, what are some good resources to read to use as practice to drill those lessons.

Do you all prefer to keep the ability to see your original answers on or off when blind reviewing? Why or why not? This question came up for me while I was BRing a RC section of a PT.