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Can anyone speak to whether you chose to use your testing accommodation or not when taking the LSAT? And do you feel it is a hindrance to use it when taking the test in a testing center vs compute test at home?

I’m asking because I took one test and I did not use my usual testing accommodations . And then I took the next one at a test site and used my accommodations. To my dismay I did 11 points worse than I did when I tested without my accommodations. Also the test site was very noisy and disorganized which I reported to LSAC. I’m just trying to figure out if I should no longer use my accommodations. It felt like it was a situation that culminated into me doing worse and I felt I was treated differently - myself and another test taker who also had accommodation. We had to wait an hour to start our test and that caused a lot of anxiety at least for me. Thank you.

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Hey everyone! Every so often, we like to give awards to posters who help us make our forum the thriving community that it is. Today, I’m pleased to announce a new batch of Chatterbox Championship winners!

And...drumroll please...the winners are:

Biggest Chatterbox: @equallyyoked. We loved the encouraging message they provided in Losing Hope on LG.

Award: $100 Amazon gift card.

Most Helpful Responder: @siobhan234, who is always responding to fellow 7Sager’s “#help” requests. We appreciate their detailed response on what is meant by “rule triggers” in the lesson Conditional Rules in Games Drill Flashcards.

Award: $100 Amazon gift card.

Honorable mentions:

@TwentyStarGeneral for providing helpful tips on how to identify the different flaw categories in Identifying flaws.

@JDream2023 who provided some advice on how to approach MSS questions in Feel like I cannot improve on MSS Questions.

@jiwoonyoon.sg for sharing some encouraging words and strategies for improving LR and RC in Feeling stuck and burnt out.

Congratulations to the winners (awards will be in your email inboxes shortly), and thanks to everyone on the forum!

P.S. We'll periodically be running more Chatterbox Championships in the future. Every 7Sage user is eligible; the only criteria is that you post helpful things on the forums.

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Last comment thursday, mar 14 2024

From 140 to 160 possible?

Hey guys! I'm from a non-English speaking country and my first diagnostic test was 142. The major problem is that I cannot finish the test with such a short period of time. I've already received an LLB from my home country and it's totally possible for me to do lsat well in my first language. So English vocabulary seems like the biggest barrier for me. I'm kindly inquiring are there any ways to increase my vocabulary in 6 months and is it possible for me to get a 160+ last eventually?

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Greetings 7Sagers!

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stimulus :

"There can be a known known only if theres a known unknown, but there can never be an unknown unknown without a known unknown. Thus, every unknown unknown which is known is actually a known unknown which is unknown."

question : the conclusion above follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?

the content of this question is inspired by the "Rumsfeld Matrix." What would be a sufficient assumption for this question? Is this a hard question or did you find it on the easier end of SA questions?

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I understand that A is right because it counters a possible objection that Han purple and white glass were produced independently of each other, in different places.

But I thought that C also nullified a possible objection, so I'm having trouble understanding why it's ultimately wrong. I chose C because I thought it countered the reverse explanation: that white glass was the accidental effect of Han purple production. If only very few people knew how to make Han purple and then created white glass later (by accident or not), then how would white glass have become so common, like the stimulus says? I don't think it's a huge jump to say that if very few people knew a technique for making Han purple/white glass, then both were probably not very common. So this shows that an alternative explanation would not be consistent with the fact that white glass was common. Doesn't C, like A, also counter an alternative explanation?

Is it different from A because when we negate it, and say that a lot of people knew how to make Han purple, that negation doesn't clearly weaken the argument?

Any further clarification on why C isn't really doing the same thing as A (weakening an alternative explanation) would be very helpful!

Admin Note: Edited title. For LR questions, please use the format: "PT#.S#.Q# - brief description of the question."

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Last comment wednesday, mar 13 2024

Standstill in LR Practice

Hi, I have finished all the general and specific theory relating to LR. I know the next step to complete is guided application, but I am kind of at a stand-still on the most efficient way to practice. I know that drills can help, but I wasn't sure if I should just start practice using these and possibly end up wasting them, or not using them as efficiently as they're meant to be. Does anyone have any tips or next steps on how to get the ball rolling again? Thanks!

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Last comment wednesday, mar 13 2024

Old PT?

Do you guys take old practice tests timed? Like 1-50? How accurate are those? I'm doing 2 times practice tests per week and then reviewing. Is that a good idea?

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Last comment wednesday, mar 13 2024

Fresh Eyes

When I make a mistake on logical reasoning, it seems to have to do with having misread something in the stimulus or answer choice. For example, reading "apples" instead of "some apples". There's a warning this has happened because none of the answer choices seem to make sense. The problem is when I go back to reread the passage and answers, I tend to make the same reading mistake again. However, when I reread the question the next day the mistake tends to be gone. Its almost like I'm temporarily stuck and I need to reboot somehow.

Has anyone experienced this and do you have any advice?

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My study journey began in January and I plan on taking the August LSAT. I spent the first two months going through the LR Bible and was doing well in the practice sections at the end of each chapter. Just recently, I finished the 7Sage CC and felt confident whenever I drilled at the end of each section. Due to my anxiety surrounding this exam, I've been procrastinating when it comes to taking an actual PT and decided to take a small step toward my goal by taking an untimed LR section using the 7sage drilling feature. To my dismay, I was unable to focus on any of the questions and had to re-read over and over again. To compound the issue, nothing was clicking or making sense and it felt like I was reading gibberish. I got 15 out of the 26 questions incorrect and I feel inherently stupid. I didn't even have the mental energy to blind review and at this point I'm questioning if I'm truly cut out for this. Am I just brain fatigued? Any encouragement is welcome.

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For those of you just starting out on your LSAT journey and looking for some direction on how to study (as well as those who've been studying for a bit already but want a quick "sanity check" on how you're going about it), I recently posted an article over on the blog that might be of interest:

How to Study for the LSAT: Advice from a 180-Scorer

If you're feeling like you've just been dropped into the middle of the deep, dark LSAT woods without a compass (and we've all been there at some point), consider this your orienteering field guide. In it, I share advice on how long to study for, what a good study plan looks like, how to build your weekly study schedule, and lots more.

If you have any questions or if there's something I didn't cover that you think I should have, drop a note here or below the article and let me know!

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Hey everyone! My name is Erin and I am hoping to take the April and June 2024 LSAT! I am looking to start a discord group for motivation, studying, tips, and an overall community of positivity for us who want to take the April-June Lsat! I noticed there was a discussion posted prior but I don't think a group ended up being started! Let me know if any of you are interested! I know studying can be lonely and can often find yourself if periods of low motivation and it would be great to have a community to uplift each other !!

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Last comment tuesday, mar 12 2024

Changes within LawHub

LawHub added new prep tests on their platform to mirror the new format starting August 2024. They labeled them Preptests 101 to 158. Does anyone know if the content on these tests is new or are they just reusing old test materials (from PT 1 to 94) and updating the format? Thanks

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I renewd My yearly Lawhub subscription with the same account. However, I keep receiving the following notice:

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Hi guys! I just started with the v2 core curriculum and I think it'll be a great idea to get a study buddy(ies) to help each other through this insane process. Lmk if you're interested! I'd love to connect over discord since it is so easy to use. Thanks!!

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What is the difference between the Drill and Problem Sets in the syllabus? For example, under Most Strongly Supported Questions, there is "Drill - MSS Questions" and 12 "Most Strongly Supported Problem Sets". They both seem to have 5 questions, but there is always one drill section and multiple problem set sections.

Also, does everyone get the same questions in the drills and problem sets? Or it's a random assortment of questions each time you take it?

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What do we do when there are two conditional indicators? For example:

No student is chosen for Gryffindor unless they exhibit bravery. Therefore, if a student exhibits bravery, they will be sorted to Gryffindor. Lawgic:

A → B

B → A

The argument is invalid.

How come it is not /chosen->/exhibit bravery? indicator “no” and indicator “unless” make negate sufficient condition and negate necessary condition. If we create the contrapositive it makes brave-> chosen which matches the second sentence.

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