Hi all,

I've been studying consistently six days a week since February. I first started studying in May 2025 and was consistent through August 2025, but I was very inconsistent from September through January. I've mentioned before that I made multiple sacrifices to be able to apply this year, so I worry that continuing is just the sunk cost fallacy.

In July I was consistently hitting high 160s, with one 172. I scored a 158 in August (anxiety, among other things) and then a 164 in September, which felt much better. I've essentially run out of new material from PT 130-158, and I'm extremely burnt out. I've been juggling the LSAT with personal issues, school, internships, and extracurriculars.

I took two sections today, and the results matched what I've seen since September: I'm scoring -4 to -6 on LR and similarly on RC. My scores are regressing. I feel like I've done everything right. I didn't intern this summer so I could focus on studying, wrote a WAJ for every missed question, reviewed in detail, and even tried the Socratic method, but I haven't improved past 168. I also haven't had a real break. I took about three days off after August and three after September.

I really wanted to apply as a KJD, but I don't think it's worth continuing to push just for that, especially since KJD odds are already lower than for other applicants. I feel like I'm doing something harmful to myself to prove a point, and honestly, there's an ego piece to it too. This decision took a lot of courage, because I've been preparing myself to apply this year, but everything points toward applying next cycle.

I plan to take the February or April exam. Next year I'll have five classes and an internship but no extracurriculars, so I expect to feel much better, especially with the lower pressure of having February, April, and June as options.

What do you all think? Has anyone been in a similar position?

I've been studying for over 9 months on the LSAT, and I went from a 154 diagnostic in January to a 168 on the September 2026 LSAT. I need a 173 minimum, but I've plateaued and don't know where to go from here. My highest mock exam was a 169 back in late July, and haven't seen improvement since. I used Testmasters as a foundational prep course, which I completed back in April. Since then, I've been studying with a tutor and drilling with 7Sage. For Logical Reasoning, I try to evaluate the argument before looking at the question stem/answer choices, and if I can't form a good evaluation within a moment or so, I decide to look at the question stem/answer choices.

I noticed that once I made a meaningful and consistent leap in minimizing the number of questions I get wrong in my LR, my Reading Comprehension went down by a lot, around/worse than where I was when I first began studying. I used to get around 5-6 wrong in my LR and 2-3 wrong in my RC, but once I started getting around 2-3 wrong in my LR, my RC dropped super low, down to 6-8. This mainly ended up happening because I wouldn't have enough time in my last passage, but I never used to have a time management issue in RC before.

I've been using an LSAT log for my wrong answers since June, with the column titles for LR as-

• Time

• Argument Evaluation: why doesn't the support prove the conclusion?

• Question Type (e.g., necessary assumption/resolve discrepancy/parallel reasoning/etc.)

• What Happened? (why did I get the question wrong/why is the wrong answer wrong/why is the right answer right)

• Growth/Action (what should I keep in mind so this doesn't happen again)

• I also flag any wrong questions which-

  • I got incorrect in my blind review, too

  • I spent too long answering

  • I got wrong because I ran out of time

  • I was down to two answers (the right vs wrong one) and ultimately chose the wrong one

In LR, there isn't one specific question type that I get wrong more than others. Most of the questions that I get wrong in timed sections/mock tests, I get correct in my blind review. I'm usually able to answer the first 10 questions in 10 minutes. I shoot for the first 15 questions in 15 minutes, but that doesn't always happen. I'm able to get almost every question correct in my untimed drill sets. My blind review process is:

1. Marking the questions I got wrong (without looking at the right answer)

2. Seeing which incorrect answer I picked

3. Of the four remaining, I try to pick the correct answer.

Essentially, I need to cut down from ~10 questions wrong on the exam to ~5 questions wrong, so I have to half the number of incorrect questions I get (from ~3 wrong/section to ~1-2 wrong/section). I don't know what to do differently, and I feel really stuck but I refuse to give up until I get at least a 173. I'm signed up for the November LSAT, but if my mock exams don't improve enough then I'll probably cancel and sign up for January instead. Any advice?

Okay I recognize this is a great (non) problem to have, and I don’t want to seem ungrateful for my score. I am super happy with my 174. I hope everyone else got the scores they were looking for and I wish all October takers luck!

EDIT IN CASE ITS UNCLEAR: I AM NOT REGISTERING FOR A NEW RETAKE, IM JUST WONDERING, SINCE I CANT GET A REFUND ON MY BACKUP, IF I SHLD JUST TAKE IT ANYWAY.

Basically, I retook the exam in September (first take was a 171 in November). But I registered for an October backup because I have severe anxiety and having a backup helped me put my mind at ease re: applying this cycle in case something went wrong during my Sept. take. I got my score back with a 174. My retake is in 8 days.

The only reason I’m considering a retake is that the average of my last 5 pts before the exam was a 177 (176, 178, 180, 179, 175). I think I could, possibly, get a few extra points. Maybe not, but I’ve already paid for the test.

That said, I’m not sure how to evaluate risk/reward here

• I’m worried if I retake, schools will judge me (whether or not I get a bad score and cancel, but ESPECIALLY if I get a bad score and cancel)

• Would a 176 give me better scholarship outcomes than a 174? I really don’t know!

I would not be retaking after this October test, if I take it. I.e. If I take October and don’t crack 174, then I will happily retain my 174 and never register for another one of these tests.

Would really appreciate any advice!

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Hi! I thought I would post this to see if I could get any advice. I am taking my first LSAT in November. I want to optimize more score obviously but am honestly feeling overwhelmed and kinda of lost on what to do for the month of October to prep to my best ability. I want to know if anyone has any kind words of wisdom to help optimize my score as much as I can before my test date.

Hello,

Two brief questions on the resume:

-I've often heard that you should list every job you've had since you started college. Is this true?

-In that case, my resume hits one page with just my jobs, and that's with some having one or two bullet points. I made sure the second page wasn't just fluff: it's mainly leadership positions and volunteer work that I think ties into my narrative. Is it okay to have two pages, even though I've only been out of college for a little over two years? I'm just a super involved person, lol

Ok so, in college I started off pretty strong- here’s my GPA by semester my first two years. 3.7, 3.8, 4.0, 4.0 then my junior year my GPA dropped to below a 3.5- I got a 3.4 both semesters. My classes were not hard - I honestly just got too into partying and started losing motivation and didn’t really have any goals (whereas freshman and sophomore year I was excited and motivated). Then I only had one semester senior year (graduated early) where I got a 3.7. So my overall gpa is a 3.64. I’ve been out of school for almost two years and working in big law (and have matured a wholeeee lot). While I don’t think I should say “oh my gpa dropped bc I was partying :P” in my apps- it was a very transformative year for me personally and I changed a lot for the better (not sure if I would have seen that change had I not made and learned from all the mistakes of that year). I know this was a very long paragraph for maybe something that might not be so significant? I just wanted to know if I should write an addendum and if so how to frame it? Thanks!!!

This is a message for anyone who has an accommodation to be exempt from the experimental section on the LSAT. If you are taking a PT on LawHub in test mode, you cannot bypass a section. I am writing this while waiting for the 53 minute timer to run out on the experimental section of PT158 (section 3), which is the last PT I am taking before my real test on Friday. I wanted to come on and make this note so that you don't get stuck in the situation I am in. Instead, test in the non-exam mode, keep a timer nearby, and force yourself to use the entirety of your time, whether you finish early or not. Then, you can just skip the experimental section by submitting it without even doing it, or just filling in random answers.

Love,

A slightly frustrated October writer

Hi everyone,

I am trying to figure out why I struggle so much with studying for the LSAT. I have been practicing since last February on and off, and every time I return to it I feel lost. During my study sessions, I feel like I'm looking everywhere but the videos 7 Sage provides, my brain starts day dreaming, and my body wants to click something even when there is nothing to click. I have never noticed this in my school studying, but now that I have a full time job, I have seen myself doing it more and more.

My question is: Does anyone have a good tactic to keep my mind from drifting and keep me engaged with the material? Has anyone found good ways to prevent fidgeting?

Hi! I'm looking for a tutor who can meet as needed to go over specific questions. When I get questions wrong, I usually vacillate between two answer choices and ended up selecting the incorrect one because of a "problem" I see with the right one. Or, I will select the correct answer only to change it to the wrong one during blind review because I have time to obsess over details. When I go to put certain questions in my wrong answer journal, I realize I still can't fully articulate why the wrong answer was wrong or why the right answer was right, even after reviewing the explanation videos. I'm looking for someone who is able to explain why answer choices are wrong/right in a few ways (differently from the 7Sage tutors) and then answer my follow up questions until it's crystal clear for me. Ideally, I'd pay hourly for sessions as needed rather than having a consistent schedule. Let me know if this sounds like your specialty and something you're open to! :)

Hello!

I have all of my application materials ready for submission (thank god) and am only waiting on one LoR from my legal supervisor. I already have two academic ones.

If I submit my application now and my legal supervisor submits her LoR one month from now, would it affect the position of my application in relation to other applicants'? Like, would this additional LoR push my application to the back of the queue as if it were submitted when the last LoR was, or would it retain its one-month earlier position?

Thank you!

I started this process in spring of 2025 with a 147 cold diagnostic. I was studying on and off for a long time but really locked in this year.

I got a 164 on the June test, then a 173 on September. I was signed up for October, but I will be withdrawing and taking my September score.

I am so happy to finally be done with this test after over a year, and to put this energy into my applications so I can get them in before Thanksgiving.

Good luck to everyone at any point on their LSAT journey! This test is hard, law school is going to be hard, and practicing law will also be hard. And for whatever reason, we chose this hard. So lock in, keep your head up, and put in the work. You got this!

Hey everyone! I'm seeking advice after a disastrous PT today and I feel a little bit defeated. I've been studying for around 8 months. I started with a diagnostic of 143 (PT 140) in January, a PT in March and then June, both of which I scored a 151 (PT 127 and PT 128). Today, Oct 1st, I took a PT again, and it's still a 151 (PT 145).

I study for around 1 hour to 2 hours per day, Mon to Fri. I do drills most of the days, and a few sections here and there. I blind review all sections and timed drills as well. It feels like I've plateaued and I'm wondering if this is the limit of my LSAT capabilities. 😭

If anyone has tips on how I need to tackle future endeavors or if you have had a journey like this please share your wisdom!!! PLEASE! 💀

Hello, I am registered for the October exam but dont feel 100% ready. Is anyone else in the same boat and will register for November? Is this too late for applications? This would be my 4th one. I know I am not proud

Hello everyone,

I just did the September LSAT and didn't get the score I needed, I had been studying everyday for 2-3 hours three months before the exam (until I got strep the week before lol) and on and off since April. I work full-time and was in the middle of a move from one province to another. I ended up getting a 146 and probably should have expected it since my PT for LR and RC were low 150s but trusted my BR which consistently fell in the high 160 and low 170 range.

I'm writing it again in November but I need a tutor to help me with time management to bridge my actual score and BR score.

Specifically, I'll need help in the following areas for logical reasoning sufficient and necessary assumptions (more generally conditional reasoning), pseudo-sufficient assumption, resolve reconcile and explain . Then for reading comprehension: critique-debate and implied questions.

I'm looking for 1 session a week starting next week, my budget is fairly flexible starting around $600 for the month of October.

From a 164 diagnostic, 154 downslide once I started studying, 169 jan lsat... I GOT A 177!!!!!!

I genuinely would not have gotten this score without 7sage and their generous program for those with fee waviers, I'm literally emotional thinking about it. I signed up for 7sage after my third surgery due to a work related injury that wiped out all my savings and ruined my plans of leaving a toxic housing situation. I was buying used prep books from 2017 because it was all I could afford at the time until I found out about 7sage from a coworker.

I'm so thankful to this platform, its resources, style of teaching, classes, community, podcasts and all the passion driving this team to prepare generations of lawyers in getting to their dream schools!!!

If i could give advice to anyone:

• take weeks off between studying to relax. my score always improved after a week off. make sure you've eaten and slept properly before prep tests

• understand how negations work i cannot tell you how important this is, it was the biggest thing that made me jump because NAs were kicking my ass.

• learn where to hunt and where to POE

• religously apply the tests to question types.

• read questions and stims slower = saving time on finding answer

• in RC, you should always be looking back and forth, not answering from memory. even if its for a few seconds

• READ, READ, READ!! i reccommend magazines like "the baffler" and "the london review" and books on nature writing the most. i've personally found them to train that same brain muscle for RC, and the sept LSAT legit had a passage on something i was very familiar with because of my reading habit so i'm glad for it.

I left that test feeling sO good but was scared by how good I felt and this is insane. I only took September to get a feel of the test before October, and October I would strive for the 170s.

I'm not sure if I'll retake it so 7Sage you may see me again. But I am so ecstatic.

For reference, besides my diagnostic, I took 4 PTs. I got a 162, 162, 161, and a 167.

im aiming for t-14/t-30 schools but have been averaging 159 on PTs. i’m scheduled for october and november for my first LSAT but am now wondering if i should just withdraw from the october LSAT to save a try/avoid it on my record knowing that i am going to take the november lsat regardless. or is it better to understand how the lsat works??? money is not a deciding issue since i’m more concerned about how my choices affect admissions

I think if my november lsat is below the schools i’m aiming for, i’d probably just go for next cycle. i’m also not entirely opposed to reapplying but just feel so stressed about having to get everything in before december.

I am so conflicted because i don’t wanna waste anything but also i don’t wanna delay more than i have to. any advice would be so appreciated!!!

Hi! I’m looking for an affordable and reputable personal statement editor. A lot of the services I’ve found are pretty expensive, and I’m hoping to spend no more than $100. Does anyone have recommendations for an editor they’ve personally used and had a good experience with?

Hi Admissions team, would love some advice! I worked a variety of odd jobs throughout college (hostess, brand ambassador, retail ect). A lot of these jobs were short term and oftentimes I was working 2 jobs at a time. I don't want to bog down my resume with the long list, especially since I am a few years out of college now.

Should I write an addendum to reference that I worked multiple jobs throughout college without having them all listed on the resume? Or could it potentially reflect poorly that I held multiple jobs? I listed 3 internships & long term jobs that I held during college on my resume, so the addendum would be referencing jobs not listed.

Oh man, the sigh of relief I breathed when I got my score this morning.

Diagnostic: 168

Average PT: 173

Max PT: 177

Official Score: 180

I don't really have any advice other than: LOCK IN! Study a lot! Stare at the LR cheat sheet until it's burned into your synapses! Eventually the patterns will reveal themselves. I really didn't expect to see a 180 today and I am, of course, over the moon about it. I'm not sure I can provide anything that the lovely tutors on here haven't already said, but I'm happy to answer questions about my personal journey!

Good luck to everyone testing in October! You've got this! Never give up!

I wanted to write this post because it's something I would have loved to read when I started this journey of law school admissions. Doing this exam while working full time is hard. I applaud you for doing it if you are. You are competing against kids who study for this exam full-time. You will have to learn how to outperform them within your time and mental constraints if you want to score high. I will be as concise as possible and will detail how I studied and used 7Sage to achieve a 169 on the LSAT after a 160 untimed diagnostic score and despite working 60 hour weeks.

TLDR: The 7Sage Core subscription is worth it. 7Sage tutoring is a waste of time. Hard work and faith in a robust process will result in improvement, inconsistency and excuses won't. THE ONLY WAY TO IMPROVE ON THE LSAT IS TO TAKE THE LSAT. 7Sage AI is a great tool. 1 hour of studying on a workday can be enough if used well!

Context/Disclaimers: 60hour workweeks in an intense finance job. No kids. No accommodations.

If you are working full-time, this process will take longer than "normal". Ignore the kids who get a 170+ within 2 months. They have literally all day to think about this test and have substantially less pressure. It makes a massive difference. Work-driven skill atrophy is real, you will have to be incredibly disciplined and patient to fight it.

Timeline: 160 on untimed diagnostic of PT 141 in January. Studied 230hrs and scored a 166 on the June LSAT. Two weeks off. Studied another 100 hours and scored a 169 on the September LSAT. I took 20 exams* in total (18PTs, 2 real), dozens of sections and at least 2000 drill questions.

*Note, the old PTs are less useful. Newer PTs are harder and much more reflective of the real exam. They are making the exam harder, make sure you practice harder versions of it.

Method: I spent month 1 on the Foundations module (I wish I spent less time and drilled real questions instead during this). Month 2 I started drilling heavily and doing sections. Month 3-5 I took one PT every weekend on Saturday. I would BR it and review it the following day. The weeks were spent drilling. It was hard to balance drilling with my 12 hour work days and I definitely dealt with atrophy between PTs. You just have to be consistent, drill heavily, and review misses deeply.

Tutor: I got a tutor Month 5. Waste of time. They were a very nice and accomplished person but we just went over problems the same way JY does in his video review. You can completely replace a human tutor with AI and get a quicker, cheaper, and more personalized result.

Took June LSAT. The first exam always sucks, you will almost always do better on your second try.

Month 6 and 7 before the September LSAT were spent doing the same method. The time off helped dissipate the burnout I got from the trauma of months 1-5 prior. I only drilled priority areas and heavily used 7Sage AI, which had just come out, to tailor my drills and run my analytics. This made a difference. When you get to the 170+ level, you have to learn how to scrutinize a question for 20 mins and figure out why you get it wrong. Volume matters much less than before as you now have the ability to protect your floor and get most questions right.

Sept LSAT: Way less stress than take #1. Felt very easy in 3/4 sections but one section was extremely hard. I think it killed my 170+ chances. Be ready for anything! Research and take the historically hardest PTs (PT 140 experimental, PT 128 LR #1)

LSAT EXAM STRATEGY BONUS: Timing is everything. Intelligence and practice will help you use your time better.

LR: USE A STRICT 2 min BAIL RULE. When you hit 2 mins, guess, flag, and skip. Skip parallel questions unless they are before Q15. They waste a ton of time. If you can't get 4-5 star Qs right in 2 mins, you need to practice more.

RC: Use low rez summaries. Passages 1 and 2 should take 15 mins, 3 and 4 should take 20. If you stick by that rule you will finish every RC question every time.

Final thoughts: We are conditioned to think “173 or bust” to get T14 or T20. I think this is an overstatement. You can get into a good law program with a 25th percentile LSAT unless you have other truly poor elements in your app. Work experience matters in this new world where KJD kids get shredded by early Big Law recruiting timelines. I will give this cycle a shot and write a post in the spring outlining the aftermath. Hopefully, my theory is vindicated!

I've hard advice that you should use a Wrong Answer Journal, but I'm not sure exactly how that works, what to include, and how to go about reviewing it. Does anyone use a Wrong Answer Journal? If so, can you explain how it works? Does 7Sage have a built-in mechanism for it? Thanks!

Ive been studying for the LSAT for a few months now and following plans, watching videos, drilling questions and sections, and I just cant seem to get the hang of it. My confidence for this has been completely shot making it harder for me to put my all into practice test and I just feel very defeated. Im taking the LSAT in November and my score hasn't improved that much. Any advice out there?

I am writing this as I open my score for the last LSAT I will ever take. After sacrificing my entire summer, I have finally achieved my goal, and I want to remind you that you can do it too.

I am not some insane test taker or academic genius, and I want my point increase as evidence that being "smart" is not even remotely necessary for finding success on this exam. You will hear countless pieces of advice about the exam: correcting mindset, developing good study habits, or even whether a bad LSAT score should hold you back from applying to law school at all.

However, I think the best advice I ever got was from Mike Kim's "LSAT Trainer" when he said that:

"The best way to ensure success is to deserve it."

Every drill, section, PT, and sacrifice you made will be worth it as long as you refuse to quit.

Keep grinding and keep pushing; you got this.

Thank you, JY, Kevin, and the 7Sage team, for helping turn my dreams into a reality.