Why is C wrong? Wouldn't the uncertainty of who is handling the networks still be an issue if the government funded?

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Alphonse is the sort of guy who, if he marries a beautiful woman, will be jealous, and if he marries an ugly woman, will be discontent. Moreover, you can be sure that if he is either jealous or discontent, his marriage cannot last long. Alphonse did get married and recently celebrated his 50th wedding anniversary. What sort of a girl did he marry?

I love seeing the thank you 7sage posts so I thought i'd stop by and also extends my gratitude to 7sage and this community.

I believe its also important to movitate each other and to show that hard work can pay off. It's taken me about 9 months to reach this point and hope to motivate others to believe in themselves and work hard to achieve your goal.

I definitely wouldn't have made it this far without 7sage and without the support of the community so thank you!

Taking one more shot at it in November, let's goooo!!

I just got back my score and was soo relieved that I got in the 160 range. Literarily just a couple months ago, I had no hope that I could score into this range until I got 7sage. Thank you guys sooo much for everything! I am still going to take the October LSAT because I know that I can get up to the 163-165 range but I am super pleased with my score especially considering how nervous I was on test day. I hope everyone got a good score!!

Saw another thank you 7sage and thought to write my own! I took my first diagnostic and was heartbroken considering my goals included top schools and I was concerned about taking on debt. I used this program for around 7 months before my test and getting my score back was one of the happiest moments I have felt in recent years. To think nothing is off limits because of this website still makes me tear up. So overall, I just want to thank the developers and the teachers for making such a great impact on so many peoples lives!

Hello, I am recently trying to take notes by using the memory method. I feel helpful on some sides but experiencing lots of trouble simultaneously.

First of all, I run out of time whenever I try to take some notes by using this method (I need extra 5 minutes at least). This happens because I take a long time to read (4 minutes per passage on average), and I also overthink what to note. I still do not have consistent rules on my note-taking - sometimes I put only names and years, sometimes only names and key terms..etc. Since I cannot be sure what to note, I should take the time to clarify it. Then this time consumption makes me rush even more in the end.

Therefore, I want to ask if there are any tips on note taking or using the memory method in RC. If you are not using the memory method, can you suggest any alternate way of approaching RC? Any tips will be welcomed!

I am preparing for the October test (been studying for a year and a half) and I took PT 92 this past weekend, scored 169 (170 if the experimental LG had been the real one). RC is harder than previous PTs (I missed -5) but something even stranger is the LR section. I can't put my finger on it but the recent LR sections are more difficult and a bit scary during timed sessions even during the first 10-15 questions which in previous tests were lighter and practice for the difficult questions later in the section.

How should I prepare for October? Has anyone noticed the difference and what exactly is different? For me, it feels like the language is the issue in that not only is it more abstract but also unnecessarily convoluted, whereas previous PTs were worded fairly legibly and focused more on the formal logic behind the questions.

I am aiming for 173+ and I just need some help in figuring out my LR strategy. I think if I can conquer this new LR format and control RC a bit (even go to -3 from -5) my score would improve tremendously.

Hey everyone. I’m taking the upcoming October LSAT probably on Friday the 14th. When would ya’ll recommend taking my final PT? Should I avoid taking any PTs the week of my LSAT or should I fit one PT in on that week? Thanks!

Hello everyone,

I’d like to start by giving some context. I am 23 years old and graduated from college last year in December. I graduated with a degree in political science with a 3.5 GPA and worked for a law firm and my senator during my undergrad. I am also an officer candidate for the USMC. However, here lies the problem: I have had some issues with the recruiting process, and it is becoming very inconvenient.

I was scheduled to leave this year in May and then September. Although, both times I was kept from leaving because my recruiter made some strategic mistakes regarding a medical matter. So, we are waiting to hear back from an agency that approves and disapproves of candidates. We are expecting their response to either be that I am either approved to leave in January or that they will make more requests for medical exams, which may postpone my leaving to the summer of next year. This has become burdensome in both my own time benchmarks and intermediate employment.

My plan with the USMC was to (1) get professional work experience, (2) fulfill my itch for military service, (3) become financially independent, and (4) use the GI Bill to pay for law school. Though, my perspectives are changing as I become older. I have always wanted to join the armed forces/USMC since I was a child, but I want to practice law long-term. So, as time goes on, I am growing weary about pressing into the USMC.

That being said, here’s where I am regarding the LSAT/admissions. I have only started studying within the last month and have not taken a diagnostic. I seem to be picking up the material fine though. I was considering taking the LSAT in January and sending out my applications immediately upon receiving my score. Though from what research I have done, it would seem best to apply next September.

So, I guess to finish with a few questions

For anyone who has served as a commissioned officer, was it worth serving

before going to law school?

a. Can anyone in the reserves vouch for their experience?

Should I be patient and join to use the GI Bill to pay for law school?

a. Or, should I take my chance at scholarships and try to mitigate for any other costs?

Is beginning to practice law at about 30 a little late in the game, or is this a myth

if you have valuable work experience?

If I do proceed with applying for schools, am I right in considering waiting for the next cycle?

I would love to hear your comments or antidotal experiences and any objectivity.

For anyone replying to these questions, do not feel compelled to answer all of them or in any specific order.

Hi all!

I hope you're doing well! Disclaimer: this will be a longer post, but I have a TL;DR at the end.

I'm planning on taking the October 14th, 2022 LSAT (and most likely the November 11th, 2022 LSAT as well). I am also aiming to have submitted my law school applications by September 30th, 2022.

With that in mind, I am looking to form a virtual study group that would serve the following purposes:

a) prepping for the test and studying together;

b) creating a space where we can be held accountable for our study time (since I personally have been having a hard time staying on track);

c) providing peer support throughout the application process (ideally, but not required to join!); and,

d) perhaps making a few friends along the way!

Just a few notes before I get into the details:

a) This group is open to everyone, regardless of where you are in your LSAT prep journey and/or your score goals. Put simply, it will be a kind, supportive, and inclusive space for anyone that wishes to join.

b) Everyone has different schedules and so there is no need to commit to studying with the group every day/for the entire duration of the study sessions to be a part of this group.

c) To keep this a judgement-free and safe space, practice test scores and score goals will be kept private from one another, especially since again, we may all be at different places in our prep journey.

d) This will be a virtual study group and we will meet via Zoom/Microsoft Teams (depending on our preference). A proposed study plan/schedule is as follows:

Proposed study plan:

a) Monday to Friday: Silent study arrangement where we can individually go through our own LSAT prep, with the exception of 5 minutes at the beginning and end to settle in and wind down, as well as a break in the middle. We can also decide as a group if we would like to set aside some time (~15-20 minutes) sometime during the week to go over difficult concepts and questions we are reviewing.

b) Saturday: Practice test day! Again, we can decide as a group how we could like to set this up (ideally I'd like to stimulate an actual proctored test), and we can also interchange PTs with drilling and/or other exercises and activities.

c) Sunday: Open discussion and blind review. Sundays will be dedicated to blind review, as well as for the group to discuss and go over any problems, questions, or breakthroughs from the week.

Proposed study schedule (all times in EST):

a) Monday to Friday: 7:00 AM to 8:30 AM; 7:30 PM to 9:30 PM.

b) Saturday: 2:30 PM to 6:30 PM.

c) Sunday: 2:00 PM to 5:00 PM.

Again, the proposed study plan/schedule is just that: proposed. This can always be adjusted to better meet the needs of group members and to be more accommodating.

If you are interested, please comment down below or send me a message and I will send you a call/chat invite. I'd hope to have an informal call before we get straight to studying to meet and get to know one another (date TBD). As a quick reminder, however, please don't post any personal information (i.e., phone numbers, email addresses, social media handles, etc.) in the comments.

Thank you so much for reading my post and I'm looking forward to hopefully studying with some of you!

Sara

TL;DR - proposing a virtual study group for the October and November LSAT test dates, with a tentative schedule and plan detailed above.

Just a general question for those of you who have completed the CC?

I've been working my way through and have been taking notes throughout. At the rate I'm going the College Ruled three ring notebook I have will be pretty chalked full of ideas and key terms. In addition, I've been downloading the PDF's that are given to you and have been making Quizlets for stuff I need to remember.

How do you view your notes at the end of core curriculum? What I envision is being able to condense all my notes down into the three sections (LR, LG, and RC) and then being able to break it down into question types and common mistakes or common ideas to look out for (if applicable).

Just curious how you've used your CC notes and if there's any recommendations for someone who wants to be an avid note taker and make sure they're not missing anything.

Thanks!

Hi all,

I'm normally not one to reach out for help and put myself out there like this, but I think I need to for this kind of test. Originally, I thought I was going to set a schedule and get through this course and take the test all on my own, but life happens. I've been on and off trying to get through this course, and I've been working full time for almost a year trying to study at the same time. It's been challenging trying to stay on track, and I don't want to put off this test any longer. To be honest, I worry about the pace I'm going at and get nervous about taking PTs. I'm not sure how to tell how I'm doing or keep track of my improvements.

I'm looking for anyone who would be willing to have study sessions together and meet online to talk about lessons or share any tips on how you measure your improvements as you go along your studying. Since I work full time, I would only be able to meet after 5pm PT on weekdays and we can work something out on the weekends.

I feel like I am not using 7sage to its full potential, so I'm also trying to send out some Study Buddy invites! I'm not sure how this works, but please let me know if you're interested and I hope we can study together and tackle this LSAT!!

Hello everyone. With the October LSAT getting closer and closer I was looking for help with what I should do at this point. I seem to average -8 on RC and between -3 and -6 on LG. LR is a complete tossup between like a -7 or as bad as a -15. It’s my worst section. I must clearly lack some fundamentals of LR to be doing so poorly and with how little time is left until the October LSAT my question becomes: At this point, should I even bother in reviewing LR fundamentals/drilling LR weaknesses? Or should I just solely focus on LG in hopes of perfecting to -1 or -0 for a last minute score boost? I’m honestly torn because -1 or -0 on LG is not a guarantee for me but after months of studying my LR has simply not improved either.

Hi, I'm newly graduated from undergrad and I'm really unsure of how to start studying for the LSAT. I had wanted to start at the beginning of this month, but I haven't started doing anything because getting a tutor or live classes is so expensive, but I would like the accountability that studying on my own wouldn't give me. I'd like others perspectives to know what works best? Self study or having a tutor/class? I would really appreciate some advice :/

Thank you!

Can someone point me in the right direction for finding an online tutor? Thanks

So I just finished the logical reasoning curriculum and decided to do just the times logical reasoning sections of a practice test. Just got -23 which is no where near where I want to be and I am not even sure where to go from here.

Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official September 2022 LSAT Discussion Thread.

REMINDER: Under your Candidate Agreement, you may not discuss the details of any specific LSAT questions at any time. For the September LSAT, general discussion of what sections you had, or how difficult you found a given section, or speculation about which sections were scored or unscored, is prohibited until after 9pm ET, Tuesday, September 13th.

Posts that violate these rules will be taken down and may result in disciplinary action from LSAC. Let’s work together to ensure the test is fair to everyone, and not share information before everyone has taken the test.

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Really confused as to why the definition is helpful to the argument. Could someone parse this out for me please?

Hi everyone! I have a question regarding necessary assumption questions. I am trying to get a better understanding of NA questions, since this is the area I am struggling with. I seem to be going for answers that seem relevant and may strengthen the argument, but are not needed/required.

For example, let's use this example from lsat trainer,

Argument: "Because we locked the door, no one can break into our house."

A possible correct answer choice may look like: "One cannot break into the house going through the chimney."

Wrong answer: "The door is the only way in and out of the house, and the locked door is impenetrable."

Here is a second example:

Argument: "My husband says I consume too much caffeine, but that is false. I only drink one cup of coffee a day, and one cup of coffee is not too much caffeine for a person to consume daily."

A possible correct answer choice: "She does not get an excess of caffeine from drinking tea."

Wrong answer choice: "Coffee is the only substance she consumes that contains caffeine."

The problem that I am having with these two examples from lsat trainer is that I am not seeing how the wrong answer is wrong. I understand for NA questions we are looking for an answer choice that is needed in order for the argument to be true. I did the negation test for the wrong answer choices and they still seem correct. For example in the second argument, the wrong answer choice is "coffee is the only substance she consumes that contains coffee" and in my mind when I did the negation test it was "it is not the case that coffee is the only substance she consumes that contains caffeine" or "coffee is not the only substance she consumes that contains caffeine." If that is true, couldn't this be an answer that is required for the argument?? If coffee is not the only substance she consumes that contains caffeine couldn't this wreck the argument??

Any help is appreciated! Thanks everyone!

Hi everyone,

I just started studying for the LSAT this week and plan to apply for Fall 2023 admission. The schools I'm applying to have an app deadline of March 1 or later so the Feb LSAT test will be valid. However, I am wondering when I should take the LSAT - Jan and Feb or Jan or Feb. If the latter, which month would be best? If I take it in Feb, I will have 1 more month to study but that's my only chance. If my Feb score isn't great, I will have to wait to apply for the following school year. If I take it in Jan, I can take the LSAT in Febif my score is not what I want (but I do not want to drain my brain out too and get a bad score). My undergrad GPA is low (graduated in 2016) so it's vital to have a high LSAT score. Any inputs on my dilemma?

If this is my first ever diagnostic exam of the LSAT, should I really do the BR, since I have yet to finish some of the core lessons. I have already started the BR, but I feel it’s not helpful because some questions I am just not sure about. I can’t really do the BR for it if I haven’t even understood the lesson yet.

I am currently PTing around 160 but I think the most important for me is to help each other stay motivated via healthy discussion and competition. I want to apply this cycle so I have registered for Oct. and Nov. LSAT. Don't mind becoming best friends along the way at all :)

here in the home stretch to Oct and wondering at what point the advantage of seeing "new" material bumps up against the ability to review old material and the necessity to have a little bit of a breather the day before.

Hi everyone!

Can anyone recommend lsat podcast that I could listen to when working out? I just signed up 2 days ago to start studying so I’m seeking something related to beginner stage foundation building or question types or lectures. I’m more attentive when I’m listening while working out (don’t know how)

So far I only found introductory test taking or college admissions related podcast.

As for my 7Sage material I’m using that more for sit down heads down study sessions

Thank you!

I applied last cycle to T-14s with stats that were below all of their 25th percentiles for both LSAT and GPA, and was waitlisted at all of them, I think because of how great my essays were! I am pretty sure I would've gotten in with a higher LSAT.

Well now I have a higher LSAT score (75th ish percentile) and I'm reapplying! I used the 7Sage admission's consulting for my essays last cycle and I created some really AWESOME essays. I can't afford the consulting package this time around (I saved up so much to even do that in the first place). I want to reuse my personal statement bc its so good but is that a bad idea?? I feel like the admissions teams really liked it to waitlist me.

All of the webinars with former admissions people say to rewrite, but they're always talking to people who were straight out rejected in the last cycle. I was just waitlisted and like I said, I think I would've gotten in with a higher LSAT since I was so far below the averages!!

What do you all think??