Hi everyone, apologies if this has been posted before but I would love to hear all of your opinions about taking an LSAT prep test when tired. I have just over a month until I take the real thing and I feel like I haven't taken anywhere enough PTs so would you recommend just powering through or doing everything I can to get enough rest and opt to take the exam in the late afternoon/evening to compensate?

I'm also not scoring anywhere near as high as I'd like (currently around 160) and much of this I feel is due to psychological factors such as timing anxiety, and frustration. My thoughts are that I can work through this in time but again, would love some advice.

Hi I hope all is well with you 7Sagers.

It has been now 6 months since I've started to studying for LSAT but still struggling with many of the sections.

My diagnostic was 145, and last score was 153 (pt38: BR164) but this, I think was a fluke(higher BR score came from LG and RC, not much difference in LR). English is my secondary language.

I have full time job, and during week days, I manage to study for 3 hours per day. I meditate daily, listen to LSAT podcasts while driving back home from work; really trying to dedicate myself to LSAT studying.

I plan to take my LSAT next April; I have now about 6 months to prepare.

I foolproof LG with old PTs on daily basis (4games per day), and not doing any drills on RC yet (instead, I am currently reading Economics) as I feed the need to focus on improving LR at the moment.

After CC, I read Ellen's Loophole twice which made me feel pretty confident that I have the fundamentals strengthened, and I have been doing the basic translation drill ("BTD") for a month (but still takes 40 minutes to finish off one section).

*BTD is a translation drill that you read the stimulus and cover it up and repeat in your own words which will require fast understanding and quick memory; this process is quite tedious and even harder since English is my secondary language.

I plan to continue BTD until I can do it within 20 minutes (may be 30 minutes? I don't know) but not sure if this is something that can be improved because I will be facing different passages all the time.

Recently, I took timed LR section from old pts to see if there had been any improvement. I still felt nervous and digesting the stimuli difficult (maybe there was very slight improvement but generally difficult); I got -10 (BR -8); when encountering the questions, my fundamentals seemed to fall apart or mind goes blank, and this was so discouraging.

My general idea is that we do BR after taking PTs but since I need to work on my accuracy on LR, I am currently working on drilling with old LR sections (pt 1~35) doing untimed, and take as much time as necessary.

I have several questions:

In this case, is BR still necessary or recommended? Or should I do the drilling timed, and BR?

Also, should I spend more time on drilling old LR sections untimed? I realize that I have been focusing more on BTD and reading books to learn/familiarize the concepts.

Is drilling by solving lots LR sections from old pts is what it takes to improve?

With 6 months remaining, I feel desperate and lost with little improvement; with many things going on my head: trying Blueprint, tutoring or quitting. I am not sure if I am doing things right.

I would really appreciate any advice.

Wanted to know if anyone can recommend the way they are studying, or some tips on how to be studying and drilling a month before the exam?

I noticed I lose time trying to figure out what the answer choices / stimulus and passages are saying. primarily because of wording. I lose time trying to overcome the wording barrier, then i get anxious about time and forgo it entirely, sacrificing comprehension. I need to practice reading more to get better, but how???

A little lost on how I should be drilling... Do I focus on tough RC passages?

What do robots have to do with anything??? Why not assume that the Mars exploration will be carried out by dogs or aliens or plants... how is that possibly a reasonable assumption left out. Why would that ever be a premise to that conclusion.

Hi, I took the September LSAT and scored below what I was scoring on my PT's. I scored a 148. I'm taking the November LSAT and want my mark to be in the high 150's. I drill almost everyday and take 1-2 PT's every week. Is it possible for me to reach this goal in a month? Please let me know if anyone has done this and how, I'd love the advice.

I seem to be negating the wrong thing and was wondering if someone could clear up my confusion for PT64 S3 Q26. :(

The sentence that reads “It is rational not to acquire such information unless one expects that the benefit of doing so will outweigh the cost and difficulty of doing so”.

I negated “it is rational not to acquire” when doing the group 3 translation like below:

rational to acquire -> expects the benefit of doing so will

rather than:

/expect the benefit -> rational not to acquire

In this case, would the “not” be modifying when someone is being rational? I really need to review my grammar…. I seem to be super hung up when I see the word “not”

Thank you!!

I was really struggling with the LSAT, that is until I found 7sage! I had already taken the LSAT twice and had gotten a 140 each time. After enrolling with 7sage and following the syllabus, doing drills, and also using the incredible blind review method, I was finally able to score a 151 on the September LSAT! I am going to continue to use 7Sage until I am able to reach my goal score. 7Sage is truly a life saver! I don't know what I would have done without them. Thank you, 7sage!

Hi,

I have a quick question about an issue I encountered. I took the September test with no issues online with an approved writing but received an email about a score hold 2 days before release date. I emailed them asking why and they sent me an email with a generic answer and survey asking whether I used a VPN, took the test at home, and what materials I used to study for the LSAT. They aren't telling me anything else so I was wondrring if the unplugged team has seen these situations and what I should expect. I don't recall any possible issues with my test session so I am hoping this is first time taker high score hold. Are there more incidents or a high score hold or simple miscellaneous security issues from such a score hold?

Any information about score holds would be appreciated.

Thanks!

I am so confused - do I do the lessons in order.... its hours of just drill tests after the videos do I finish logic reasoning and then start logic games? or do I jump around?

I took my PT. Then the next day I BR'd it and then I fool proofed the logic games until I got them all correct and at a decent time.

Is reviewing your PT a multi-day task?

I assume it can't be the case 100% of the time, but as a rule of thumb, are the harder questions toward the end of each section?

For example, if I take a LSAT, can I anticipate that for LG the first two games will probably be easier than the last two games? And for RC, the first two passages will probably be easier than the last one/two?

This is good to know if you know you are going to struggle with timing and will need to triage to try to save the hardest for last.

I need some advice. My two top (reach schools) are NYU and Columbia. I am deciding which to apply early decision to. For context I have a 3.9 GPA from a top undergrad university, will have 3 years of work experience at a top management consulting firm, and 166 LSAT (largely impact by working 70+ hour weeks and limited study time). I also have some interesting extracurriculars, etc.

If I look at the LSAT predictor on 7sage (taking with grain of salt):

I know odds are low either way (so maybe it doesnt really matter). I am not necessarily super set on going to law school (will go to biz school if it does not work out because likely better odds BUT if I get into Columbia I would 100% go). It would be great to get any advice!! thanks so much :)

I've started taking practice tests recently. I'm not a super fast reader so I have only been able to complete three of the four passages and their questions so far.

Do you focus on completing all of them? Or do you just accept that you won't be able to get through it all and just focus on getting the highest accuracy on 3 of them?

If I don't get around to answering all the questions, I just pick a letter of the day for the unanswered questions.

Any study groups in Toronto? Please contact me if there is one.

In the section titled "Fool Proof Guide to Perfection on Logic Games," J.Y says you have to drill the game over and over and that is how you will remember the inferences. Are we supposed to be memorizing the general inferences? For instance, remembering that if there is a new condition in the question stem that creates a block, there are only like two places it could go, which causes one of the leader - follower rules (L - N) to go before the block and the follower to go after the block (like l would be in spot three and the block would start in spot 4 and then n would be the last spot to be filled)? Or are we supposed to memorize the exact inferences of the game (specifics)? I have been drilling the pure sequencing problem sets and got the time down to five minutes to six minutes on all of them and get the answers all correct. I felt like I owned the games and decided to try to drill more sequencing games. I did two, and they both turned out terribly (2/5 or 3/5). Please help!

#HELP

BR RC -11 LR -10 LG -5

PT RC -18 LR -15 LG -11

Under timed condition, I miss more than 5 questions than BR. I lost concentration during PT and did not remember what I just read. I have a LSAT in October and only two weeks left. I'd like to minimize the gap between the BR and PT.

I work full-time so my maximum study time is 5 hours per day.

Should I take 2 Prep tests per day under timed condition? or Should I take 25questions drills under timed condition?

Please advise me :(

Hi all - I hope everyone who took the September test received a score they are happy with/proud of. If not, keep going! I wanted to make this post to see if anyone had any information on disclosed tests for the 2023/24 cycle (i.e. tests where you get a PDF copy of the test itself, the answer key + your answers, and a score breakdown by section). I read on "manhattanreview.com" that the September test (along with November & June) would be disclosed, but there is no date on the article I read nor any link/source to back this up. If anyone has any info, please let me know! I know they haven't disclosed a test in a while now, but getting to review this test before my final October try would be great! Thanks in advance.

Hi, I started studying for the LSAT 14 days ago, ran through about a 1/3 of Mike Kim and did about 10% of 7sage's LG CC. I decided to just take a diagnostic today now that I'm at least familiar with the question types, and stupidly I forgot to check the "modern" box on the older PT I was taking, so I ended up doing 2 LRs. Well, LR is my biggest weakness it seems.

I got -2 on RC, -4 and -6 on the two LRs, and -3 on LG, equal to 165 according to 7sage. I'd imagine that if this were a modern test, my score would be different since there is only 1 scored LR section. Does anyone know how I can convert? I know that each of the 3 sections is weighted equally nowadays, not sure if this was the case back then. Was each LR 25% of the test, or were the two LRs together 33% of the test? Thanks a bunch.

As stated do I need to physically print out the exams for each PT I do blind review or is there a way to digitally “circle” choices I’m uncertain of when taking a PT online?

Been over a month on my end and nothing.

PrepTest B - Section 4 - Question 24

Hi! I wasn't sure why E was the answer over C. #help please!

Admin Note: Edited title. Please use the format: "PT#.S#.Q# - brief description of the question."

Hi, I am a junior with a 4.0 and I am considering taking 12 credit hours for the rest of my undergraduate degree because my program requires a thesis and an internship and I am currently involved with family court research. All that to say, would it serve me better to take 12 credit hours (still full time) a semester and finish in the full 4 years to give me some breathing room for all the important stuff coming up or should I plan to cram it in to 3 semesters and take 15-18 credit hours even if it sucks. Basically, I'm wondering if admissions would look down on 12 credit hours on my transcript? Would several semesters of 12 credit hours look bad? What do y'all think? Would this answer c change based on the prestige of the school?

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to ask for some feedback or how people have normally done this in the past. My exam is November 2023 and I really really want to apply this cycle. The score is released November 29th and I want to get my application in ASAP so how should I be prepping my personal statements, letters of rec, etc. and like for which school? Should I just have a general idea of what I'm going to get and target schools in that range?

I'd love to prep in advance and not scramble in early December, but it's hard especially when I don't even know which school I'm applying to...

Any insight would be great :D

Thanks!

I'm doing V1 curriculum. I have 70 hours left of lessons (in logic games and RC). I started with 147. I just found I got 149 after doing most of the curriculum. WTF. I didn't do blind review (I will go back and do) because I wanted to see if I should write in November. What am I doing wrong. Please help I"m bummed. I've been working on this since June. Thanks.

Sharing this on behalf of a fellow 7Sage User. We would greatly appreciate any assistance or answers. Thank you very much!