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I was doing well on practice LSATs and was scoring in the mid 150's (couple weeks ago I got a 155) until I took a recent practice LSAT and scored a 145. My blind reviews at at a consistent 165 so I know what I am doing but I'm not sure what went wrong with this recent LSAT. Does anyone have any study advice on concerning a large score drop?

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Hey everyone,

I'm taking the LSAT for the first (and hopefully last) time this Sunday. My goal is to score at least a 171, which I've done on 6 of the last 7 PTs I took. I took my last PT today and am planning to only do some light drilling tomorrow and the day after. I'm curious if anybody who's taken the test before can give some advice about how to ensure you do as well on game day as you have been in your PTs. I think it's important I stay confident and don't put too much pressure on things, but I'd be happy to hear any advice y'all have for ensuring you score to the best of your ability.

Thanks in advance for any insights and good luck to everyone taking October!

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How do suggest I get to my BR score.

Currently, I drill the weak sections and take a timed LR section max 50mins. Then I blind review with wrong answer journal after each section. Trying to get down to -1 if possible, but it seems like the time is what's killing me. Any sugestions?

Currently using Loophole Method, read through PowerScore books, actively use PS online forum, and Manhattan Forum for review.

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Hey guys, so my LSAT is in 5 days and ever since I hit the one week mark, my brain and body have been on a downward spiral. It feels like my anxiety meds have just stopped working.

For background, I have an anxiety disorder that makes me prone to consistent panic attacks, and while I’ve been doing well on all my prep & am only a point below where I want to be on test day, but I can’t stop the panic from taking over and making me not want to look at a single LSAT question.

I’ve tried to work through it and ignore it, but the stress is making me feel sick and disoriented to the point where I keep getting things wrong that I would’ve gotten correct a few days ago, making me panic more.

I’m really worried that this is going to ruin my LSAT, and this is my last chance to take it. I keep trying to calm down and breathe & tell myself that logically, it’ll all be okay, but anyone with an anxiety disorder can tell you that your body often ignores your brain.

I would really appreciate it if anyone else with similar experiences could give advice. Without getting too much into it, I have a lot riding on me doing well and the thought of feeling like this on test day makes me sick with worry.

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So this was a very interesting question. We are asked to identify the necessary assumption in the argument of the citizens group. Citizen group argues that the mayor have more than the town's economic interest in mind. Why? the citizens give the answer that the mayor didn't go with what they think is the BETTER option: building a park. Comparing to the highway, the citizens believe that the park will attract TWICE as much business.

What is the problem here? Well, how do we know that just because the mayor didn't go with what the citizens think as the best option, he's in bed with the highway construction company? There might be other concerns that the mayor considers other than just maxing out the business that plainsville can attract, such as pollution brought by making a business park by cutting down trees, land shortages, etc.. These can definitely make the highway more attractive to the mayor than the business park, leading the mayor to think the best option for the economy is the highway. More importantly, the mayor can just simply be unaware of the idea of the business park. He simply did not consider that option, and when the citizen group roasts him for it, he's like damn you're right let's build a park. The citizen group, therefore, has to assume that the mayor has considered the park, knows about its advantages over the highway, and think it is economically more ideal to build a park than to build a highway to make the conclusion that the mayor is interested in more than pure economic gain for the city.

The necessary assumption therefore should be something like: the mayor recognizes that the park is a better option for the economy and can attract more business. Exactly what answer B catches. The mayor has to accept that the park is economically a superior option to the highway. If he doesn't, he can genuinely think that the highway helps the most, with all other things considered (beyond the scope of this question.)

Let's talk about other answers:

A: This doesn't help. Simply beyond what we need to consider here. The citizen group doesn't have to assume that there is already a highway to argue that the mayor is acting sketchy. I don't even see what this answer choice is trying to do. Saying that the highway is important and we don't have it yet so we need one?

C: We don't need this. The highway not having other benefits does not affect the argument of the citizen group, and the OTHER benefits of the highway is not in the debate between citizens and the mayor. There can well be other benefits from the highway, and the park can still be twice as more beneficial.

D : No idea what tax revenue and approval have to do with the question.

E: I chose this one, thinking hey if the only way to help the economy is to build the park, and the mayor is not building the park, he must have something to hide, right? No. If this question is a strengthening question, this AC could work, but it is not required. The citizens do agree that the highway is bringing SOME economic benefits, implied by the statement that the park can bring twice as much business. Therefore, the citizens don't think that the ONLY way to help with the economy is to build a new park. They don't have to think this to be the case to reach the conclusion that the mayor has other interest in mind. Keep in mind: the citizen's argument is not that the mayor is not helping the economy at all but that he has other interests. This answer choice is too extreme for it to be necessary.

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Hello! I'm currently studying for the January test. As of right now, it is pretty hard to attend certain groups because of my work schedule. I work overnight and I am only available after 9 PM EST on Tuesday, Thursday and Sundays. If anybody is available to meet up and work together, that would be great. Send a message if interested.

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It's funny how the most logic-centered exam organization made the most illogical decision to rescind students exam just because LSAC mistakenly thought that students are putting in the wrong test locations. I am currently in the states and have taken the June LSAT flex without any problem but yesterday I received an email telling me because I did not reply to their audit email asking me to confirm my address, my OCT exam is cancelled.

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Help!!! RC is by far my WORST section. I am consistently missing -12/13 on each practice section I complete. While I am reading, I try to ask myself what each paragraph is about. Once I'm done reading and it's time to go to the questions, I realize that nothing I have read has stuck with me, forcing me to go back to the passage multiple times. I, then, consistently get multiple questions wrong based on the fact that I don't have great RC reading strategies and can't visualize or condense the information I have read into the important things I should know before going to the questions. Does anyone else have any tips on how to focus more on understanding the passage before even getting to the questions and still being in the time limit? I also have decided I'm probably going to end up skipping one passage as a whole on the exam, so I'm thinking I'll have roughly ~12 minutes on each of the other 3 passages. Any help would be soooo greatly appreciated!

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Hey all - I know that for five pieces of paper were allowed for the LSAT-Flex. Is it the same for the four-section test? (including the upcoming October test).

Thanks!

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There's a lot of negativity out there, and a lot of anxiety and nervousness going around before the October LSAT. I understand it, as this is my second time taking it this year. But despite the feelings we might have (knots in our stomachs, feelings of defeat, etc), let's all say something we are PROUD of about our LSAT journey so far. If it will help you, I encourage you to write a little statement about the good things, despite or even in spite of all the bad things. I'll go first:

I've been studying for the LSAT since April 2020. A lot of times I have felt defeated and as if all of the hours I was pouring into studying were pointless. I couldn't raise my score for months. I went into the June LSAT upset with where I was, and when I got my score back I was not surprised nor was I disappointed with it. I felt nothing in a way. I knew I needed to raise my score if I want a shot at my dream schools, and I vowed to myself that I would spend as much time needed testing, blind reviewing, forcing myself to understand where I went wrong on all my practice tests. Between the June LSAT and now (October 6) I have finally started seeing my hard work pay off. I have scored 8 points higher than my June score 3 times (!!!!) and for the first time I feel like it wasn't just pure luck -- it's actual hard work and dedication that helped me raise my score. The person I was when I got my lowest score (148 Diagnostic in April 2020) vs. who I am now (scored a 167 multiple times) would have never believed I could raise my score 19 points. But I have, and now I know it's possible to do it on test day.

The point is (and this may sound cliche): it's not enough to look at how far you are from what you want. It's also so crucially important to actually look back and notice how far you have actually come. I really do believe that without giving yourself some kudos for what you _do _ achieve (however minimal), the journey will never be satisfying even if you end up at your goal.

I know that the people on 7sage pour their hearts into the LSAT and getting into law school. Recognize your hard work for what it is. With hard work, confidence, and self-awareness, there's nothing that can stop you from crushing the October LSAT. Believe this, even if you force yourself to believe it. It's a much better mindset to have when going into the test. Trust me.

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I have taken the LSAT twice: June 2021 and August 2021. Both were 163. I was scoring well above (low 170s) before the most recent one. Obviously, the test day penalty is severe. But how can I overcome this? I recently hit a -0 LR, which I am ecstatic at accomplishing, especially given I have not dipped below -0 on LG in a long time on PTs.

Studies show that maintaining meditation is helpful, but I haven't been doing that consistently. Is there any internal motivation I could possibly engender in myself before test day in an effective way?

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(D) is clearly correct, but I'm having trouble articulating why (C) doesn't work. Here is my articulation:

At its core I think it comes down to a necessary vs. sufficient concept. Not like "C is sufficient but not necessary" but like this: the stimulus is saying that in order to help a patient heal, the psychotherapist MUST focus on positive change in relationships. The negation of (C) would be "there are at least some patients who will not find relief by changing their relationships." BUT the stimulus wasn't saying "if the psychotherapist focuses on positive change, the patient will be helped," it was saying "focusing on positive change is necessary in order to help." So it doesn't kill the argument to say "there are some cases where positive change didn't help a patient."

Maybe that isn't as muddled as I thought but any input would be helpful. Thanks!

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Hi everyone- I'm preparing for the October LSAT and was wondering how I should get my room ready for the exam. I know there shouldn't be any electronics but I also have a bookcase filled with pictures and books. Should I clear that? What else should I make sure isn't in my room? Thank you!

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Can somebody clarify for me the distinction between B and E for Question 20? Aren’t the two choices basically saying the same thing? The only difference being that B specifies that both are flying their respective planes. The rule states that “no plane flies without a qualified pilot aboard,” but doesn’t indicate they need to be flying the plane. Similarly, E states that Cindy is in plane 2, therefore sufficiently satisfying the rule’s requirement. So, what’s the difference here? How do you choose between the two?

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Wednesday, Oct 6, 2021

139 > ???

I scored a 139 on the June FLEX. Some of you might remember a post I made when the June 2021 FLEX scores were released. I still am devastated, but the malaise since then has waned and I am again driven to try to win the LSAT. I just deleted all of my progress in the core cirriculum and I'm starting over from 0. I've since signed up for an introductory logic course at the local community college for the fall semester, while treating this (7 Sage) like another 3hr/5 days a week class. I have no excuses why I can't study in the mornings, so I must and I will.. I honestly don't even care about Law School anymore. I just want to tackle this monstrosity of a test, however long it takes. I'll worry about Law school and admissions and all that other stuff when I get a score that I can personally be happy with and meets my goals. I don't care if it takes 5 years or 10 years. I wrote down some goals to keep me consistent, sober, and healthy while attempting to overcome this rigorous barrier to my successful, legal career. Every comment posted onto my June 30th, 2021 post was encouraging and motivating. People describing their tribulations through this trial of the mind gave me some needed self reflection on why I am doing this and what I hope to accomplish beyond the LSAT. But for now, I am only researching programs and schools to keep me motivated to study and take seriously this feat of intelligence. I look forward to studying along side you all.

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So I didn't have a pre-phase and felt that all the answer choices were wrong. How on earth is the correct answer supported by the stimulus? It sounds like some random reasonable statement that makes sense in a common sense sort of way, and isn't anything that needs a stimulus, let alone this one. Like I suppose if your mussels have nuclear waste in them, I wouldn't eat them but this just doesn't sound like a supported statement. It sounds more like everyday advice against eating raw chicken or rotten milk. Did anyone else feel like the same way?

I ended up picking C because its said bags of zebra mussels were "suspended" and that made me think they were floating midwater. I ended up googling photos of zebra mussels clogging pipes and apparently that's not the case. They are literally stuck to the pipes.

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I recently posted this question on Reddit, however, I am not sure that the people who responded have enough experience with the test to get exactly what I am asking. So,

Would you guys recommend AGAINST (in questions which require that I analyze an argument)… First, quickly skimming/hunting for the conclusion, then quickly searching for the supporting premise or premises. As opposed to reading the stim from top to bottom?

I know that in order to anticipate the answer correctly all I need are these to things, the rest (background) just serves to slow me down or set me up for trap answers. Also, I am able to shave of a few seconds per question. However, I just started doing this and not sure if it’s a smart idea to make habit.

I am able to do this for most question types including;

strengthen

weaken

required and basic assumptions

SA/PSA

Flaw

Match flaw

What do you guys think? Do you already do this?

Thanks in advance 🙏🏽

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