Hey all - I know that for five pieces of paper were allowed for the LSAT-Flex. Is it the same for the four-section test? (including the upcoming October test).

Thanks!

Hi, guys there are certain topics in logical reasoning that I would like to be more advanced in.

Those being:

Causation and Phenomenon-Hypothesis Questions

Some and Most Relationships

Can someone offer me additional videos, or what I can do to feel more confident in these lessons.

Please assist me in any way you can.

Best of luck to you all.

So I reveived an email from proctor U saying my registration for Octover LSAT is cancelled. Later I checked LSAC and saw a refund being issued. None of these is done by me. Does anyone know whats going on with October test? Am I the only one getting this?

Hi, I would like to seek some advice!

esp if you are focusing on LR/RC without sacrificing your LG performence.

In my case,

since my LG has been a relative strength for me (-0 ~ -2, if I doing some LGs everyday),

so recently I've been mainly focus on drilling LR/RC.

But I noticed my "game-sense" (logic instinct, fast deduction, etc) became a bit rustier

and thus will bombed 1 game so ends up -4.

So what do you do to keep your LG sharp while focusing on LR/RC?

(I personally found doing drills for all three section impossible given I've a full time job; my study time (1-2 hours every workday) are mostly spend on LR/RC drills)

Many thanks in advance.

I have been working full-time since graduating in May 2020 so I really need to dedicate my weekends to studying. With that being said, who wants to go to coffee shops and form a study group near the Alexandria, VA area??

I was curious if anyone has a master list of all the schools that don’t have an application fee this cycle??

I'm really struggling with this

I'm looking for thoughts on my current situation-- I'm a first-time test taker, and I have studied consistently since around the end of May. I planned on taking the LSAT once, and maybe twice if I drastically underperformed. Sadly, I have let the Nov. date get away from me.

Originally, my plan was to test in October since I wanted to get applications in around Thanksgiving-- but now I'm wondering if I should reschedule. My goal score was a 165, and until about two weeks ago I was PT'ing consistently in the low 160s, with a -4 or -6 on LR, -4/-5 on RC.

Recently though, something clicked for me in LR, and I've gone -0/-1 several times, along with several -1 to -3 scores on RC. My last PT (92) was my best, a 168 with LR -1, RC -3, and LG -7--which is actually one of my best LG sections to date. LG has killed my score since the very beginning and it is so frustrating.

Anyway, I say all that to ask, in light of my recent improvements-- should I pay the fee, postpone to Nov., and try to find some help with LG, or just stick with October? I hate wondering how much higher my score could have been with a better LG performance, but I don't know if I have enough time to improve any on LG/ if the time I'd lose on early application submission is worth it... anyway, any help/advice is appreciated!

So this is a NA question.

Both options D and E make sense to me, but E is supposed to be the correct answer.

E says "anyone to whom safety is an important factor in purchasing a car will consult an objective source of vehicle safety information before buying"

But what if the consumer believed ads and promos were objective sources of vehicle safety info? If D. was the correct answer it would make sense, because if they were aware that ads weren't objective and they only viewed those, safety probably isn't that important to them.

Maybe safety is their #1 factor but they truly believe ads and promos are objective sources of information. They could just be very unaware and ignorant and believe ads are an objective source.

Let's say health is my number one priority, and I'm drinking these shakes that contained tons of sugar and chemicals because the commercials say they guarantee fat loss. I didn't consult a nutritionist because (for arguments sake I'm just stupid) and I truly wholeheartedly believe the commercials provide an adequate source of information. You really can't say health isn't my number one priority, like you can't say safety isn't their priority. Now if I KNEW the commercials were full of lies and I still drank the shakes anyways, you could say health isn't my number one priority.

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So I didn't have a pre-phase and felt that all the answer choices were wrong. How on earth is the correct answer supported by the stimulus? It sounds like some random reasonable statement that makes sense in a common sense sort of way, and isn't anything that needs a stimulus, let alone this one. Like I suppose if your mussels have nuclear waste in them, I wouldn't eat them but this just doesn't sound like a supported statement. It sounds more like everyday advice against eating raw chicken or rotten milk. Did anyone else feel like the same way?

I ended up picking C because its said bags of zebra mussels were "suspended" and that made me think they were floating midwater. I ended up googling photos of zebra mussels clogging pipes and apparently that's not the case. They are literally stuck to the pipes.

I recently posted this question on Reddit, however, I am not sure that the people who responded have enough experience with the test to get exactly what I am asking. So,

Would you guys recommend AGAINST (in questions which require that I analyze an argument)… First, quickly skimming/hunting for the conclusion, then quickly searching for the supporting premise or premises. As opposed to reading the stim from top to bottom?

I know that in order to anticipate the answer correctly all I need are these to things, the rest (background) just serves to slow me down or set me up for trap answers. Also, I am able to shave of a few seconds per question. However, I just started doing this and not sure if it’s a smart idea to make habit.

I am able to do this for most question types including;

strengthen

weaken

required and basic assumptions

SA/PSA

Flaw

Match flaw

What do you guys think? Do you already do this?

Thanks in advance 🙏🏽

There's a lot of negativity out there, and a lot of anxiety and nervousness going around before the October LSAT. I understand it, as this is my second time taking it this year. But despite the feelings we might have (knots in our stomachs, feelings of defeat, etc), let's all say something we are PROUD of about our LSAT journey so far. If it will help you, I encourage you to write a little statement about the good things, despite or even in spite of all the bad things. I'll go first:

I've been studying for the LSAT since April 2020. A lot of times I have felt defeated and as if all of the hours I was pouring into studying were pointless. I couldn't raise my score for months. I went into the June LSAT upset with where I was, and when I got my score back I was not surprised nor was I disappointed with it. I felt nothing in a way. I knew I needed to raise my score if I want a shot at my dream schools, and I vowed to myself that I would spend as much time needed testing, blind reviewing, forcing myself to understand where I went wrong on all my practice tests. Between the June LSAT and now (October 6) I have finally started seeing my hard work pay off. I have scored 8 points higher than my June score 3 times (!!!!) and for the first time I feel like it wasn't just pure luck -- it's actual hard work and dedication that helped me raise my score. The person I was when I got my lowest score (148 Diagnostic in April 2020) vs. who I am now (scored a 167 multiple times) would have never believed I could raise my score 19 points. But I have, and now I know it's possible to do it on test day.

The point is (and this may sound cliche): it's not enough to look at how far you are from what you want. It's also so crucially important to actually look back and notice how far you have actually come. I really do believe that without giving yourself some kudos for what you _do _ achieve (however minimal), the journey will never be satisfying even if you end up at your goal.

I know that the people on 7sage pour their hearts into the LSAT and getting into law school. Recognize your hard work for what it is. With hard work, confidence, and self-awareness, there's nothing that can stop you from crushing the October LSAT. Believe this, even if you force yourself to believe it. It's a much better mindset to have when going into the test. Trust me.

Hi!

I have looked through the LSAC website and I am still confused if I need to remove pictures from my walls.

Thank you and good luck on the October LSAT :)

I am on RC part of 7Sage CC. I get almost all questions correct on questions of difficulty up until four stars. Do questions get significantly harder when the difficulty level is a five stars?

I am having problems with Author Inference questions in RC and was wondering if there was a way to practice that rather than practicing only law, humanities, art, or science passages. I find that no matter the topic, I struggle with making inferences so if there was any questions you suggest from any PTs in particular please help and let me know how to best practice this!

So yea, I feel silly asking such a question lol.

But what does "no" mean in it's function as a response to another person's argument?

For example, in a disagreement question:

Person 1: A, therefore B. (insert whatever you want for A and B. Make the argument valid or invalid, whatever)

Person 2: No. (rest of stimulus).

So, if I were to read all of Person 1's argument, and then only read the "No." from Person 2's argument, how should I interpret that?

Does "no" ONLY mean that B does not follow from A, in which case B could still be true, you just can't arrive @ B from ONLY A?

Does/could "no" mean that there is a simply a disagreement about context and that B actually does follow from A?

I'm only interested in the function of no within the scope of how the LSAT generally uses this word in disagreement questions.

Thanks!

Hi guys. I know its not recommended to work during law school, but what are you expected to do for living. Like you could stay with parents, but if the law school is hours or miles away how are we expected to pay for living expenses without working? I know some schools its not even allowed for 1L students to work. I will be going to law school straight out of undergrad, so I just need some insight or opinions.

Hey everyone,

I been looking at this argument for a couple days and can't find the flaw. Can someone please help me find it. Thank you.

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Hi everyone- I'm preparing for the October LSAT and was wondering how I should get my room ready for the exam. I know there shouldn't be any electronics but I also have a bookcase filled with pictures and books. Should I clear that? What else should I make sure isn't in my room? Thank you!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-33-section-1-question-21/

This is the Attacks on an Opponent in a Debate Question.

I'm not sure why the answer works. Can someone explain it to me?

Hey everyone! Ive been pting in the high 150's low 160's and I was wondering if anyone was interested in forming a November lsat study group with me to keep each other accountable and to review our sections together! Please let me know if anyone is interested and we can make a discord group chat together :)

Can someone help diagram the question below? I'm having a lot of trouble wrapping my head around it.

Manuscripts written by the first time authors generally do not get serious attention by publishers except when these authors happen to be celebrities. My manuscript is unlikely to be taken seriously by the publishers for I am a first time author who is not a celeb.

I diagrammed "except" the same way I would diagram "unless".

not CELEB --> FIRST TIME AU OR not SERIOUS ATTN

When I looked this up, the CORRECT diagram was:

not CELEB --> not FIRST TIME AU OR not SERIOUS ATTN

My first question, Why is it: not FIRST TIME AU?

Second, I'm having trouble diagramming the parallel argument below for the same reasons:

"Fruit salad that contains bananas is ordinarily a boring dish unless it contains two or more exotic fruits. This fruit salad has bands in it, and the only exotic fruit is a guava."

I diagrammed this as follows:

not TWO OR MORE --> contains bananas OR boring

But the correct way to diagram it is:

not TWO OR MORE --> not contains bananas OR boring

Why?

So I work on this question. It takes "otherwise" as indicator for bicondition. I wonder which course JY mention about "otherwise"

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-26-section-3-question-22/

Hi everyone I'm having trouble with this question. I think I sort of understand it but if someone can clarify any details Im missing I'd appreciate it.

Basically the citizen states he will do two things to ensure incumbents aren't re-elected. 1) campaign against all these incumbents 2) vote for the incumbent who represents his own neighborhood because she's the only one that knows what she is doing. He then goes on to argue that if everyone in Mooresville follows his example there will be a change in the councils membership.

the question stem then states "assuming that each citizen in Mooresville is allowed to vote only for a city council representative...."

so were proving what must be true for the council membership to change.

A) is true because the citizen in the stimulas is making the exception of voting for an incumbent in his neighborhood that he think will do a good job. But if everyone else from different neighborhoods does the same thing there stands a possibility that all the incumbents will be voted back in and do a bad job all over again in dealing with municipal finances so the voters in answer choice A shouldn't make the same exception that the citizen is making but instead the voters should vote for other representatives, which will substantially change the councils membership.

is this correct and is my reasoning of in any way...

Thanks

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