Hope everyone is doing well!

I am hoping to get some advice from those who have perfected LR. What materials, drills, insights, section strategies etc helped you perfect this section?

I just wanted to seek advice from anyone who started with a lower diagnostic who was able to achieve high 160s-170s.

How did you do it???

I would love some advice as to how you got there and what were some of your "ah-ha" moments?

I had a total deer in the headlights moment with this question. I just didn’t even know what to think after reading the stimulus aside from why noncompliance would have been ok at the local but not national level and the solution JY has seems to have come out of nowhere. I was under the impression that national law must have been the more restrictive set of rules because noncompliance with it was unacceptable while it might have been ok with local but it’s the opposite. Could someone break this down for me in the simplest way possible, premise by premise?

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Hello everyone I'm currently having a panic attack. My LSAT diagnostic was terrible, I'm under quite a bit of pressure from my parents to take the October exam and Im really trying to figure out the best study plan. So far I've been studying anywhere from 6-8 hours a day and really want to use my time as effectively as possible to get the best score and recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

I'm convinced at this point that I'm just not smart enough to do really well on this test. I can never, ever get a 4-5 star question right in the target time. It ALWAYS takes me an extra 30-40 seconds, which is just a deal breaker come test day. Is there anyone here who used to have timing issues and then overcame them? This just feels like it speaks more to my innate abilities at this point.

I would appreciate a thorough explanation on this one. I understand how B doesn't agree with the Politician but I don't see how it agrees with the biologist or whatever - Appreciate anything that can make it more clear! I ended up with D but B was the answer.

I'm about two weeks into studying with 7Sage, and I've had a question for a while. Should we complete the syllabus linearly or can we jump around? Should we even be encouraged to jump around? I feel like my skills with Logic Games, for example, are languishing because I'm doing a lot of (useful) prep on basic logic. So, should I continue the course and get back to Logic Games when they come up in the formatting of the syllabus, after almost EVERY logical reasoning section (in reality, 100's of hours of practice from now), or should I try to keep my skills with Logic Games sharp (-7 timed, -1 BR currently) by doing some intermittent practice with them along the way? If so, what should that practice look like?

Maybe I missed something that was explained at the very outset of the syllabus?

I am admitted to attend Pace Law this fall and received about half tuition scholarship. I am still on the waitlist at Hofstra and have a professor friend of mine (who did his LLM at Pace) tell me that if I get into Hofstra that I should go there, also the firm I work for has hired from Hofstra. I worked all through my undergrad and am still paying off my loans so it is very hard for me to imagine giving up free money. I know I will get an answer from Hofstra any day now and that I will have to decide rather quickly so I need to know my answer. The difference in tuition and without my scholarship would be $109,000 over 3 years ... a huge chunk of change. I am interested in criminal defense and want to get as much hands on experience as possible.

It went from PreOrder on Amazon to sold out within a few hours of the supposed release date. I’m sure there aren’t many paper versions in print given the required access to LawHub and digital test for the majority of test takers. I’m wondering if anyone actually got it?

In desperate need of a fresh PT to gauge where I’m at.

Thanks!

I finished the logical reasoning section of the CC. Upon learning the basics of logic, I realized I am noticing that people, specifically lawyers and those who had studied for the LSAT in the past, actually use these logical indicators when they talk. For example, in the Netflix drama, Better Call Saul, Saul and his colleagues always use logical indicators. Furthermore, I begin to speak using logics, and it is just interesting. I am always drawing Lawgic in my head. I am just wondering if any of you, LSAT experts, could write the following statement in Lawgic as I still need to practice writing statements in Lawgic within my mind. Here it is:

If you do not want to do it, I am moving forward without you.

Here is the Lawgic I have:

/W → /Y

W= Want

Y= You

Could you all please see if this is correct?

Best,

Ken

Looking for study buddies for October 2021 test to commit at least twice during the week and once over the weekend.

Working full time and available for evenings, EST time preferable. Currently still going through the Core Curriculum, if some of you are interested let me know.

I'm planning to apply early decision to my top choice prior to taking the October LSAT (I received a score in June, but want to improve) and placing a hold on my application until I get the October score. Will my application be considered as though I applied in late October or in mid-September, if I submit around then? I understand that it is ideal to submit as early as possible (or is it the case that there may not be a big difference between these two dates?).

Thank you!

Any guesses what category it will be? I'm assuming LR...

Just talking about this with a friend. My test should be about this time next Tuesday. I've planned two full PTs under time between now and then, and to keep shoring up weaknesses in LG, plus do a few timed sections each day, critically BRing. What is your plan?

I just got married during my gap year and my wife and I have the income one would expect of two humanities degree-holders with plans to go to law school—and a net worth to match. What kind of financial aid is likely for someone in my circumstances?

How do I practice a fourth variable section that is not LR on 7Sage?

whats up fam - it's your boy LSAT_SUS

I recently had a breakthrough in my score but my score is dropping quicker than a girl's interest when she sees my bank account. But I gotta keep this momentum going somehow

Like the modern philosopher once said "if it's up, then it's up, then it's up then it's stuck" - Cardi B. She was rapping 'bout my LSAT score.

A little about me - I'm solid on the 1-4 star Q's on LR and RC. Five stars are 5-stars for a reason. Logic games are a breeeze minus the miscellaneous mfs.

Shoot a comment if you're interested and let's get this shekki ON THE ROAD. LETS GOO.

The only condition I have is that you're sufficiently familiar with the CC language (i.e. causation logic, how to weaken/strengthen causation logic, negating ACs, valid argument forms, and yadda yadda.) If not, it's fine but you should get acquainted with it nonetheless.

OH, and I capped at 174. My last PTS were 160, 170, 172, 174, 163, 168. -0/-1 on LG, -3/-5 LR, -1/-6 RC.

** This is free btw so ya idk someone told me to clarify this.

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lsat_sus response to admin: thank you for the guidelines. I'll stay more on top of my expressions no cappa.

Hi guys,

I've been using the negation test as I go through the answer choices. I've been able to pinpoint why E is correct and why most of the other answer choices are wrong, except for answer choice C. I don't understand what I'm missing, but if someone could explain why negating answer choice C does not wreck the argument, that would be great.

Conclusion - Cause of increased deaths is bronchial inhalers by asthma sufferers to relieve their symptoms.

Premises - Two explanations for increasing death rate of people with asthma: the reporting is more accurate now and there is an increase in urban pollution.

Gap - Bronchial inhalers is not mentioned in the two premises as an explanation for increased death rate.

Answer choice C - "Bronchial inhalers are unsafe, even when used according to the recommended instructions." Why is the incorrect? If the inhalers are not unsafe, then wouldn't this wreck the argument that the inhalers cause the increased death rate? Isn't it also a must be true that the inhalers have to be unsafe for the death rate of the asthma population to significantly increase?

I've been so focused on prepping that I've neglected checking whether things I've gotten used to during PT's are allowed during the digital, remote Flex test. Does anyone know the answers to the following?:

Are we allowed to have more than 1 drink on our work surface? (I usually drink both coffee and water)

Are we allowed to drink from that 1 (or more) drink(s) DURING the test? Or only on the 1 minute switching break between sections and the 10-minute break?

If we have to go to the bathroom during a section and simply can't hold it, are we allowed to (obviously taking away precious time from the test) or is it strictly prohibited, resulting in a cancelled test? (I'm contemplating taking urine and bowel suppressants to try to prevent this emergency...)

If we plan to be away from our computers for much of the 10-minute break, how can we keep track of the time elapsed? Is there an audio alarm for the break? I'm guessing if we're not allowed to use our phones or our laptops for any other purpose than taking the test, we're not allowed to set a timer on our phone clocks or on our browsers to keep tabs on break timing.

I know we can't use noise-cancelling headphones to deal with possible environmental noise distractions, but, instead, can we run a white noise machine in the same room in which we're taking the test?

During the test, are we allowed to touch the screen with our fingers while working? (I've gotten used to doing this with games.)

And, lastly, are we allowed to mutter under our breath while working on the test? I know we wouldn't be able to do that in an in-person test because it would be distracting to other test-takers, but in the remote format is it prohibited?

Question 1:

For premise: A --> B

Are all of the following valid inferences?

A -m-> B

A -s- B

-B --> -A

-B -m-> -A

-B -s- -A

Question 2:

For premise: A --> B --> C

Is the following necessarily false?

A --> -C

Question 3:

From premise A --> B --> C is there any inference we can make that is necessarily false?

help

Shouldn’t A be wrong because we can’t assume that CAN = SOMETIMES

I CAN GET HURT ===//==== I SOMETIMES GET HURT

Thought D would make the most sense as the main point is that PW can be undermined by its own tastes.

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With the test quickly approaching, there's pretty much nothing I can do at this point but make jokes about my deepest worries surrounding the test. So, does anyone feel like they have a strong feeling as to what the extra section will be? My heart is hoping for LG, but my brain is saying (and fearing) an extra RC. I think by telling myself I'll be retaking in October no matter what, my anxiety has been greatly reduced. However, I can't shake the feeling that I'll be doomed to proctor issues. What's everyone else doing this week to relax?

Hi,

I am writing my LSAT on Tuesday, but I am a bit confused about the process. Am i supposed to download the proctor myself before hand, like right now, or are they going to send it to me.

How am I going to access my test on the day?

Would someone please not mind explaining it to me??

Thank you

Hi,

I am currently scoring 149 and hoping to reach 165 by December. I work full-time so, it's hard for me to study by myself and stay on track. Anyone here interested to study together with the goal of improve their score?

Update

Wow this is great response!

I am not sure how people normally do this in the forum. Any suggestions?

I am happy to coordinate it whether it's WhatsApp, Skype, Google or any other way to form the study group. Please feel free to make suggestions and how you would like to study as a group?

Thanks everyone!

When you focus hundreds of hours in the old PT's and finally catch up, it's another level, but not a level of to train more to exceed.

It's obvious when looking at the meta-scores that for the LSAC too many people are hitting 170 so they are making it so absurd that some questions are bound to cause people to have issues. It's disturbing as well that they are going to remove Logic Games because people are "getting it". And it's obvious that when LG is so clear cut they won't remove questions nor have it contested, yet with new PT I see 30 - 40% answers right ON THE FIRST 10 QUESTIONS.

This test went from understanding the theory behind the questions to making sure you understand any upcoming tricks.

It's outrageous that you have to spend 300-400 hours to get 170s and then slip back to the 160's since God forbid law schools weigh 70% instead of 75% of your weight-in application.

And before people start to defend the LSAC, it's the LSAC that caused the pressure for schools to get this achievement mentality to 170. 170 doesn't mean top 10%, it's the top 2.5% yet schools will do absolutely everything to get into that 170 elite status,

It's already bad enough that Hispanics get average 146, now I'm facing this test like the ending of Glengarry Glen Ross , where I thought I had it until the realization that it was mere delusion.