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Last comment tuesday, jul 27 2021

Hitting a fence

I wouldn't say I am hitting a wall with studying, but I've definitely hit a fence.

I am forcing myself to maintain my study schedule, which I am proud of. Still, I can't stay focused while trying to retain information. I constantly feel like everything is just dragging on.

I've implemented some measures to stay engaged (basically, printing out everything everything possible to be able to take more specific notes) but I cannot seem to shift my mentality.

If you have had to overcome this kind of issue, I'd love to hear how. I know this type of thinking will not do me any good.

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Hi! does anyone have any idea about how 7sage scores 3 sections and if that's reliable?

For example I took PT85 now and have -1(RC), 0 (LG), -6 (LR 1st section), -6 (LR 2nd section), missed questions is 4 sections which gets me a score of 168 (4 sections calculated), but if I get rid of one of the LR sections from being scored (switching to flex mode/only 3 sections for scoring) it shows up as 172.

Does anyone have any recommendations for scoring 3 sections while practicing with 4 sections?

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Hi Everyone!

This seems to be a recurring theme in several LR questions, so perhaps worth considering. When attacking a support (premise to conclusion) in an argument, isn't the use of "some" i.e. other cases or situations, irrelevant - as we cannot know whether our case at hand falls within the scope of that "some".

Take for example the below question on proto-indo-european languages: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-29-section-1-question-16/

Here, we have to assume that PIE falls within the "some" languages which do not have words for prominent environmental conditions.

However, in the question on chess players and humming (link below), apparently it is wrong to assume that the humming falls within the scope of "some" involuntary actions as per AC (C).

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-20-section-4-question-25/

Any thoughts welcome!

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Last comment tuesday, jul 27 2021

RC -15

I felt myself might be the worst RC test taker in the discussion section. I have no idea how to improve it. Focusing on big picture has no help for me. I simply do not understand what the passage was talking about! My LR is now -5 but RC score could not be worse.

It's the biggest obstacle on my LSAT journey.

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I HATE this section with a passion. I was never good at it, I never was able to finish on time, I tried every skill out there for studying and practicing and NOTHING worked. I do not consider myself a slow reader, but I do consider myself someone who tries to pay attention to every detail. My thought process was comprehension > generalization; I thought it was worth going slower if it meant I could understand the passage better, but this didn't help. What it did do was make me focus so much on the details that I would not only be snail slow, but I would second guess answers due to me giving my brain enough time to over-evaluate questions or focus on the wrong things. HOWEVER, I think I have finally hit a holy grail...and it might sound unorthodox...but LSAT be making you do some crazy things sometimes.

My Method: What I found works best for me is an alternating method of focus and skim. As I start the passage, I read the first sentence slow and ask myself what is going on. I make sure I can pick out a focal topic or something to anchor my mind to. Then, I skim through the main body of the paragraph, focusing on simply acknowledging the details and what they are generally saying. Once I get to the last 1 or 2 sentences of the paragraph (nothing more), I slow down and focus on identifying how the author closes out the paragraph. I do this process for each paragraph: first sentence focus, main body skimming, last sentence focus. (If the paragraph is short, such as only consisting of two long sentences, then I read the whole thing in a medium pace manner, mainly paying attention to its topic & what its purpose is for being so short.)

What I have found is that this method not only allows me to recognize the details of the passage, but it helps me naturally focus on the general idea. Focusing on the general idea when each paragraph is saying something different is easier said then done, but pin pointing specific spots in the passage that you know you're going to slow down at and focus on makes it easier to keep track of your thoughts and passage development. By doing this method, I still find myself having to reference the passage, but I can usually find where the evidence is fairly quickly and move on.

I used to NEVER be able to finish the RC section, and even when I gave myself more time, I still would get -8/9 wrong. Now that I do this method, I am finishing the section for the first time, and I even finished one yesterday with a whole 5 minutes to spare; that's probably because with this method, I went from reading the passage in 4 minutes to reading it in under 3 minutes. That is a huge accomplishment if you're like me and also want to make the RC section illegal for mental health reasons. I still got -5 wrong, but that's at least some improvement, and I mostly got them wrong due to my lack of reading the answer choices correctly, not because I didn't understand the passage. I pray and hope this method works for some people because RC can be a major pain and sometimes the average methods just don't work. So here's something new. LMK if it works!

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I am getting ready for the August LSAT, which brings back the fourth experimental section. Whenever I have taken practice tests on 7Sage, I notice I usually get two LR sections. Was it just more common with past tests that there would be two LR sections?

The LSAC said in their recent communications that there could be a double of LG, RC, or LR. As I prepare for August, I want to take practice tests with TWO RC sections because that is my most dreaded section and that way I won't feel so disheartened if I end up getting two RC sections come test day. Are there any practice tests that have two RC sections? If so, please let me know!

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This post is two-fold: I am looking for both a RC study partner and a tutor. The reason I am looking for both is ideally, I'd like a good study partner because I've found that studying with a person with a real stake in this exam is just different from studying with someone who is already finished but I am also trying to be realistic because it's exceedingly difficult to find someone who is both compatible and willing to meet up on a regular basis.

My requirements are: if you are a tutor, you must be charging a reasonable rate, the tutor (or study partner) must have taken the LSAT before or be scoring 170+ on your practice exams, must be able to not only explain why correct answer is correct but why the other four are wrong, must be willing to go over the passages line-by-line. NO manhattan prep or powerscore, lsathacks, or other online explanations during the session.

And of course, I expect basic honesty about your capabilities, whether you be a tutor or a potential study partner.

I am currently getting on average -4 to -5 on RC and I need to cut that in half. Please be understanding of my request and read it all before messaging me. This is not my first time looking for a tutor/study partner and I've had my share of crappy experiences. I need someone compatible with my needs and who has a real stake in this exam so we can hopefully work to pull each other up. I can understand if you're scoring -1 or -2 that you might be a bit averse to studying with someone scoring lower than yourself but explaining your thought process to someone might help you further master the material and I've heard from several that I ask really good questions so that might get you to think about the passages differently, which could make all the difference in the world.

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Hi everyone!

So i’m sure everyone knows that the August LSAT is now 4 sections, one of which is experimental, therefore it’s not being scored. Since 7Sage doesn’t have the option to take a 4 section exam with one un-scored section, do you guys think taking a PT test will provide an accurate measure of what score we will get? Also, if we get a high score on the PT does that mean there’s a good chance we won’t score as high on the actual test? All thoughts/responses are appreciated ! :)

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Last comment tuesday, jul 27 2021

PT11.S2.Q24 #Help

I understand why AC (A) is the correct answer because it is the best suited. However, is it really an assumption the argument depends on because if you utilise JY's negation method, you can get this:

Say, there is a political debt she owes to somebody longer than Lee & it can be as suitably repaid by appointing them to the Head of the Arts Commission, couldn't it be the case at the exact same time another job became vacant that was better suited to this unnamed individual (the individual Mayor Drabble had a longer standing political debt to). Therefore, allowing Lee to be appointed to the Head of the Arts Commission and fulfilling her longer standing political debt as soon as possible.

I am not sure if the slight flaw in the logic is due to it being an older LSAT so not as logically rigorous or I am missing something?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

#Help.

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Last comment tuesday, jul 27 2021

LSAT fatigue?

I've been studying pretty regularly and do only a few hours a day to try and avoid burnout. But starting this past weekend, I feel... tired? Like not physically tired but just tired of the exam overall. I've been on the grind for so long that I've grown tired of studying for it as well as dealing with all the highs and lows that come with the exam.

Took a LR section today and shockingly got -9 when I usually get -3/-4. I definitely felt that my attention was scattered and my desire to study and review after was pretty low.

Is this LSAT fatigue? Anybody else feel this or know how to counter it? I thought limiting my studying and sleeping well was helping so I'm not sure what is going on..

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I just took a 3-section PT on LawHub but chose to take the second LR section instead of the first -- I didn't realize that the Flex Simulator automatically removes the second LR section. I really want to log my results for this Flex PT onto 7Sage, so is there a way somehow for me to choose to include the second LR section instead of the first? The obvious answer seems to be no but maybe putting my question out there can lead to an update that allows users to choose which LR to include.

Thanks for the help! :)

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The guys at Powerscore put on sessions predicting what's going to be on upcoming LSATs, and the session for the August 2021 sitting happened yesterday.

I missed the session and don't think I can access a recording at this point but was wondering:

  • Whether anyone has any credible/educated predictions about what this sitting will be like
  • If 7Sage would ever move into providing something like this too/if there'd be interest from users
  • Thanks!

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    Anyone interested in doing a small group session to discuss the appropriate method of reasoning for certain LR questions? I know I have quite a few that I'm not confident about which one it is. Happy to use my examples as an "agenda" or have each person bring a few examples they'd like to work through.

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    Last comment tuesday, jul 27 2021

    LR Study buddy!

    Hello,

    I'm currently focusing on the LR part of the LSAT and I'm looking for a study buddy to take sections (separately) and then review/talk about answer choices with. I have improved from -15 on the first LR sections I took to -8 but I still have a long way to go. Please reach if you are interested. I'm in Pacific time and can meet over zoom either early mornings (8am PT) or later in the day (3-5pm PT).

    Thank you!!

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    Last comment monday, jul 26 2021

    scoring of the August test

    so the august test is going back to 4 sections (one being unsecured correct?) so it would be just 3 scored sections (1LR 1RC 1LG) correct? so it would be beneficial to score practice test w just three sections instead of 4 right?

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    Due to COVID, LSAT FLEX is in-home test, and i am wondering whether everyone takes the test with computer or tablet?

    Is tablet allowed to use for LSAT flex? if yes, can iPad be used as well?

    What is the pros and cons to take exam with laptop and tablet?

    I would like some tip/info regarding this from previous takers too!

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    I thought the argument was a causal conclusion because of “increases.” Since the argument goes from correlation to causation, isn’t one of the assumptions that there is a causal relationship between watching TV and obesity among North-American school children? What effect does answer choice B have on the argument?

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-39-section-4-question-04/

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    Hi everyone

    I am trying to study for the upcoming August test and have been doing problem sets throughout the week. Last week I would complete a LR problem set and average 2-3 wrong out of 25-26 questions. This past week, it's dropped to 5-7 wrong seemingly out of nowhere. Habits and eating schedule have stayed the same, and I just took a practice test and got the most amount of questions wrong since 4-5 months ago. Upon review I understand my mistake and will answer the question right, but in the moment I don't know where that line of thinking goes. Feeling super defeated. Any advice?

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    Hi All,

    I am looking for a study buddy in Sacramento, California for in-person study and discussions. My PT scores are in the low 150s. My lowest scores are in the AR (Logic Games) section. If I don't time myself, I find that I do much better. Speed seems to be my worst barrier in Logic Games. I love LR section and have achieved quite some milestone. If you live in Sacramento and would like to study in-person, please let me know. I wish everyone the very best. We got this!

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