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I took the test the first time July 2019 right when they began to switch to digital (I had a paper test) and got a 163. This was after only a month and a half of studying, using only 7Sage and I improved from a 154 diagnostic. I am looking to take the test again before applying this fall and would like to improve my score to either high 160s (168-169) or to the 170s (which obviously would be ideal). Ideally I would take it in April (before I have to start going back into work). So I have a few questions:

  • Has anyone used 7Sage again for a second test and do you have any recommendations? Should I redo the classes? Only take tests? Just seeking experiences from people who used this program twice. I loved it so would like to continue to use it, but only if people found it helpful a second time around.
  • How many practice tests should I try and take from now until April in order to likely to be prepared to improve as much as I would like to?
  • Do people recommend private tutors? Or other types of extra help?
  • Do people find the Flex test easier with it being shorter?
  • Any recommendations from people who studied while having a full-time job? (I work 9-6 M-f)
  • Thanks in advance for any help or advice!

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    I've seen so many people discussing this but can anyone explain what this to me? From my understand I should keep my phone with me and then they will let you turn it off and put it across the room?

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    Hey all!

    Just wanted to get everyones take on what reading comp has been like for November flex takers.

    I have found RC in the 80s particularly difficult and it is really bringing down my vibe right before the test. I just took PT88 and did well on LR & Games but was destroyed in RC. I'm a bit concerned because I know LG was supposed to be the hard section on this test....

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    Just took the LSAT writing and completely forgot to show my scratch paper. It completely slipped my mind since I decided to re-record my room scan because I did not feel that the first room scan was sufficient. I realized that I forgot to show my scratch paper as soon as I clicked next. I thought that I could still use my scratch paper if I just held it up to the camera when my test started, but I wasn't sure so I decided not to show the scratch paper and DID NOT use the scratch paper at all. I thought that maybe the way I approached it would be okay, but now that I think about it I am unsure. Does anyone have any thoughts?

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    I'm taking the writing sample tomorrow. Here's what I've gathered from online advice:

    It isn't scored, but it matters insofar as it demonstrates ability to write an essay under timed conditions and that it roughly matches the quality of your personal statement (given the time constraints of the writing sample) to show that someone else didn't write your personal statement. Don't go in blind, but you shouldn't stress too much on this.

    What matters is ability to make a coherent argument from the information given. Don't bring in outside knowledge or try to make arguments unrelated to the information at hand in the prompt.

    Look at sample prompts and responses to get a general idea of how the prompt and essay could look. After this, do at least one simulated writing sample so you don't get cold feet on the actual sample.

    Different websites suggest different structures. I've seen sites suggest anything from 2-6 paragraphs. The 6 paragraph formats seemed unorganized and too long for the time constraints. The 4 paragraph seems best as it matches traditional essays, demonstrating writing ability, and it seems to best organize the information that is necessary for a good response to the prompt, given time constraints. These paragraphs may not be long; keep in mind your time limit. Here are the suggested formats for 2, 3, 4, & 5 paragraph essays:

    2: Body 1 (Argument for your position, with thesis). Body 2 (Counterargument against the opposition).

    3: Body 1 (Argument for your position, with thesis). Body 2 (Counterargument against the opposition). Conclusion (restate thesis and strongest points).

    4 (Best option in my opinion): Intro (Restate information given and provide thesis). Body 1 (Argument for your position). Body 2 (Counterargument against the opposition). Conclusion (restate thesis and strongest points).

    4b (IRAC): Issue (state the issue that you are being asked to analyze). Rule (state the criteria). Application (apply the criterion to both sides). Conclusion (explain why your position is best given the facts).

    5: Intro (Restate information given and provide thesis). Body 1 (1st Argument for your position). Body 2 (2nd Argument for your position). Body 3 (Counterargument against your position). Conclusion (restate thesis and strongest points).

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    Hi all,

    I did PT 86 on Law Hub (got a 175!) but when I was inputting my answers on 7sage to add the test to my analytics, the RC section had 26 instead of 27 Qs. Is this just me?

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    Hi! I've finished the LG curriculum and am currently redoing the problem sets I got wrong. One of the things I struggle with is figuring out when to let the questions drive the inferences. I only do this once I've spent 5-10 minutes trying to figure things out and moving to the questions in defeat. Is there a way to build this intuition?

    Thanks!

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    Is there a way to enter your answers for specific questions you attempt while drilling? It seems that you can only enter results for full preptests

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    I can't remember where I saw it, but I remember seeing something about not being able to move the cursor during an exam and only being able to use arrow keys. Is that correct? I hope not as I like to move my cursor throughout a stimulus or passage. Thank you to anyone who answers!

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    Does anyone know how to request accommodation for where to write the exam? I think it will be too difficult for me to write it at home with a big family.

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    It seems like only some schools have the NALP reports available. Is this not required because it is all self reported? I see all the employment outcomes for the schools I’m looking at but only found about half of the NALP reports?

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    I chose C for this one because I wasn't sure about any of them. Can someone explain why the answer is D?

    I was trying to contrapose it back but because the stimulus has an "or" statement that confused me when I was diagramming it.

    The reason why I didn't choose D is that even though the bookstore does not have exclusive access to a specialized market, I thought that since it could cater to mass tastes and be still be profitable.

    What do you think?? What's the best way to answer this question??

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    Is there an explanation available for the tags on the practice tests? For example, SeqPure I understand, but what is MC or INFAP? It would be really great if there is a chart I could throw into Excel.

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    Hey folks! I just began studying for the LSAT full time (30hrs/wk) a few days ago intending to take July/Aug. I'm hoping to get some advice from you guys on a couple of things with regards to the CC.

    I am struggling to keep up with my generated study schedule. For example, a lesson like 'Intro to Arguments' may say that it requires 2hrs to complete, but I find that it usually takes me twice as long (or more) to actually finish because I handwrite notes, pause the videos, try the exercises, review, etc. Currently, the schedule says I should be done the CC in 2 months, but if its taking me double the time will it take me 4 months to finish? Is this normal or am I doing something wrong?

    I finished the 'Intro Arguments' and 'Grammar' lessons and I'm debating if I should jump ahead and start with learning LGs first? I've been told some people prefer learning LG, then LR, and finally RC. Thoughts on doing this or should I just stick with the order of the CC?

    Thanks guys!

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    On both my last two PT's, I misread or altogether missed a rule during LG that cost me a lot of time before I realized my mistake. I am really worried about this happening to me during the real test. It happens to me very frequently and can make an easy game feel completely mystifying. Does anyone have any strategies for how to avoid doing this? I know the obvious answer is to slow down, but I feel the need to move fast since I am very slow when it comes to LG. I usually never get to the fourth game in time.

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    Hey, I have been interested in teaching other aspirants which in turn could be helpful for both. I am currently Pting around 165-166 and would love work with people who have trouble breaking into160s and who feels this could be mutually beneficial.

    Would be interesting in Br-ing around 2 to three preptests a week.

    Thanks

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    I would love to Blind Review with someone - anyone! I am starting off my LR journey and it could be great to bounce ideas off with someone else. My LR scores are not very consistent yet and can range from timed -9/-3 and BR -5/-2. I am trying to make my way through the earlier tests and eventually PT the more recent ones. I struggle most with timing and that accounts for most of my missed answers, but I think I'll get into the groove eventually.

    Let me know if you can make it. The BRing will happen regardless, but come join me if you are available. It would make me very happy to meet some people and learn some stuff :)

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    Some critics say it's unfair that so many great works of art are in huge city museums, since those people already have access to lots of art.

    But this is unwarranted because there are so few masterpieces that distributing them more widely is impractical.

    Plus, if a masterpiece is to be fully appreciated, it must be seen along other works that provide context for it.

    I chose B here because I thought that people would benefit most from getting a full appreciation of the art, and that distributing them more widely would diminish that appreciation for more people.

    I mostly understand why D is right, but does the last sentence of the stimulus play any role in answer choice D??

    Also can anyone explain why my thinking for B was wrong? Thanks!

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    I'm planning on taking the LSAT summer 2021, so hopefully there will be an opportunity to take the test in person at that point. However, the prospect of having to take it at home is really stressing me out. My family is all working from home (and will continue to do so for at least the next year), and I have a lot of noisy animals. My anxiety makes me very sensitive to noise, so I typically have separate room accommodations on all types of exams. The noise isn't something I can get used to (it's not simply an annoyance but is something that can actually send me into a panic).

    Has anyone with a similar issue found a solution? At this point, I'm thinking of saving up money to rent out a space for that day or something. Thank you! I appreciate any tips you might have. Best of luck to those prepping!

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    Hi everyone,

    I recently completed the 7sage Core Curriculum and was seeking advice on how to proceed with studying. On my first diagnostic test I received a score of 133. I first began the CC back in March of 2020, but was not very consistent in the beginning. I try to devote around 15-20 hours a week studying. It took me until the end of July to finish the LR part of the CC, as I did not really buckle down until the middle of April. While completing the LR section of the CC, I also read The Loophole in Logical Reasoning. I began the LG section of the CC in August and full-proofed every game offered in the CC. I finally finished the RC section of the CC at the end of December 2020. I took my first PT as a flex test (February 1997) and scored a 157 (-12/-7/-6 in LR/LG/RC). My BR score was a 169 (-8/-1/-3 in LR/LG/RC).

    It is very obvious I have an issue with LR. I definitely have some fundamentals to improve on, as I believe I lost a good portion of the knowledge I gained from completing that section of the CC earlier in 2020. I've read that doing untimed sections may help improve fundamentals?

    With LG, I used to be completely clueless. I think the CC has helped me improve tremendously, but I think I can do better. I feel like it may be a good idea to fool-proof the remaining games from 1-35, but if anyone has any advice I'd appreciate it.

    As for RC, I really feel like this section is a hit or miss. I did okay in my opinion on this pt, considering it was my best section while timed. I assume the only way to improve here is to just drill passages?

    I guess what I'm trying to get at is how should I proceed now that I've completed the CC. I very much enjoyed the structure that the CC provided and I'm sort of feeling lost now. I don't think I have the time to take a PT every week nor do I think it would be useful for me to do that right now. I am beginning to wonder if perhaps I should redo the LR portion of the CC, but this time much more quickly. Does anyone have any thoughts on where I should perhaps begin? I know it sounds silly, I am just very confused about this whole drilling process. Also, I'm not out here aiming to get a 170 or anything, if I could get a 160 on the actual test I'd be ecstatic.

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    The stimulus talks about the number of visits per representative decreasing from 640 to 501, but does that mean the number of visits per pharmacist decreased as well? Is it possible the number of visits per pharmacist from these representatives possibly remained the same or even increased depending on the number of representatives working for these manufacturers? Can the number of visits per representative be equated to the number of visits per pharmacist?

    Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-85-section-2-question-09/

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