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Hi everyone,

I am now on the last stretch of my studying as I will be writing the LSAT for the last time in January. As I am doing the older prep test I am struggling with the RC passage and being able to adequately highlight key sections. On my November LSAT I wasted a lot of time highlighting key words or MPs and I am trying to find ways to still do that just like JY without spending too much time. Any recommendations on how to get through passages quickly and efficiently would be super appreciated.

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Many of you like myself spend today reflecting on what a year it has been and look forward for what's to come in the following year. As I sat down and thought about my journey thus far with the LSAT and what is to come, I felt compelled to share words of encouragement with this wonderful community.

I started this journey more than a year ago now and with wishful thinking that I could study for 3 months and put it behind me. Once I realized that it wasn't that simple for me, I had to readjust and become comfortable with delaying not one but now two application cycles. I share this for those who feel immense pressure to stay on a directed path and deadline. If you have the opportunity to forgo an application, do not fear delaying, do not fear time. Seriously, don't let the fear of how long it could take to achieve your goal stand in the way of getting there. Remember that it isn't the destination but your growth in the journey. "Never give up on your dream just because of the time it will take to accomplish it, the time will pass anyway" - Earl Nightingale

One of the worst mistake I made in the beginning was putting myself down and questioning whether I was even "smart enough" to make it. Don't sabotage yourself by adopting negative attitudes about your intelligence or abilities to reach your target LSAT score. The pursuit of creating success should be you taking care of yourself first which means not putting yourself down. Success happens when you show up powerful and through believing yourself. "The happiness of your life depends upon the quality of your thoughts" - Marcus Aurelius

Failure. There is no such thing with the LSAT, it took me quite some time to understand this. I thought my diagnostic of a 147 was a failure, that getting an entire problem set wrong was a failure, that not seeing improvement meant I was failing. All of these aren't failures. I started to think of each question as a rung on a ladder; you go rung by rung, one step at a time. Sometimes you don't think you're progressing until you step back and see how many steps you've climbed. Every missed question is just an opportunity to get better, be persistent in your mindset and keep trudging through until you achieve results. I'm a huge sports fan, so I'll use this analogy for anyone out there who may be able to relate. When you drop a basketball it bounces. Every time you let it bounce without touching it, it becomes lower until it settles on the ground. If you keep dribbling, it will keep bouncing. You have to keep dribbling, you have to keep bouncing back despite how many times the test tries to make you settle. Even if you don’t yet know how you will resolve the task, keep bouncing. "No man is more unhappy than he who never faces adversity. For he is not permitted to prove himself" - Seneca

Be ready to face any challenge and overcome it. Be hungry for success. Keep going no matter what.

Remember, "Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor" - Alexis Carrel

Don't hesitate to reach out if you have any questions! Best of luck :)

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Hi all,

Tomorrow is the last day to reschedule the Jan LSAT for free. I'm consistently (almost maddeningly so) getting 172s on my latest PTs. Before that I was getting 171s consistently so there's progress but its very slow. Maybe if I reschedule to Feb, I can get into inch up to a 173-174 but I might not. I'm fairly comfortable with my chances at getting into the schools I want to if I get a 172, but a higher score would be nice too.

To help with my decision, could anyone give me the lowdown on the relationship between LSAT and scholarships at T14 schools? Are certain scholarships (like the Toll at UPenn) where everyone can apply heavily dependent on LSAT and GPA or is the review process holistic?

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I thought I had mastered LSAT Games until I started doing the newer PTs.

Games after 60 are killer. My fundamentals are strong and there are some odd sections where I get decimated.

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Mostly its stupid mistakes, sometimes they're tough questions I wouldn't have time to tackle properly or do not know how to approach well (like rule substitution).

I'm writing this month. I've been studying for 6 months, focused on LR mostly and tackled LG about 2 months ago. I haven't been able to get -0 or -1 consistently, I'm lucky if I get away with -2, but I'm usually at -3 or -4. - and never any extra time to spare... I have no idea how people work that fast.

I'm beginning to doubt myself. Is this considered good? or am I doing average?

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Is there a place where I can find samples of strong LSAT writing essays? I'm just starting to prepare and samples would be really helpful in learning more about the structure, expected analysis, etc. Thanks!

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I was wondering if anyone had any insight or recommendation on whether or not to simulate the LSAT-flex (taking 3 sections as opposed to 4).

I was thinking that if I were to not simulate it, I could get more LR practice in but at the same time, I'm pretty sure if you take both then both factor into the score and that would artificially inflate my score given that I'm much better at LR than LG.

Any thoughts?

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Taking the January LSAT and have been PTing around the mid to high 160s and have only ever broken 170 once. I struggle the most with RC (avg -7) and I think I've hit a slump on my improvement. I've tried slowing down my reading, speeding up, highlighting etc. but I just can't find something that makes the section click. Does anyone have tips on how to really make the jump to the 170s?

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How is AC D the correct answer? Based on the stimulus, I might fallen into the trap of thinking that words that express new ideas become "officially common" once they are put into dictionaries. Either the dictionary editor cares a whole lot about these new words or the words need to get into dictionary. Where in the stimulus does it express the concept of a "severe distortion"?

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I do not understand at all what the correct AC C is trying to say and why it is correct. Stimulus says that the gov't makes the bank pay for a premium, but that depositors should instead pay the premium since they are the ones benefitting from the insurance. What does any of that have to do with interest rates?

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What are your guys schedules like? I've had a lot of free time while I've been waiting for my classes to begin, and I've found it very difficult to study LR effiecently for long periods of time. After a couple hours of intense study I start to make a lot of mistakes as my concentration lapses. I've found that taking a day off helped a lot.

Curious how you guys approach breaks.

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Hello,

I am unclear about the diagramming for this question below:

PT37.S2.Q12

Admin Note: I deleted the question as it is against our Forum Rules to post LSAT questions verbatim.

JY's diagram is below, but I am not sure why "without" did not warrant the negation of the sufficient (GS) and "cannot" the negation of the necessary (/GF) so that the diagram is /GS-->/GF. How do I get to the bolded translation below?

GM-->/BF

GF-->/BS

GS-->GFm-->CV

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-37-section-2-question-12/

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Hey guys, this is really just a rant from me because I just finished my NU Kira interview and let's just say no amount of practice prepared me lmfao The questions weren't tough by any means, but as someone who has pretty bad anxiety, I just choked for like 3/6 of the questions. I did become more comfortable for the last 4 questions, but oof. I did 24 rounds of practice and still managed to slaughter myself in the 6 question interview LOL brb while I go cry in a corner since I may have just ruined my chances lmfao Good luck to everyone who is still applying and are interviewing soon!🥲🥲 If anyone has some interesting interview stories or rants they would like to tell, please comment below. I'm going to need some funny stories to get over this.

Edit: if anyone had a bad interview and still got admitted, please comment below. Need some sort of hope 😂😭

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did anyone else find PT72 wildly difficult? i took it earlier this week and got absolutely wrecked. granted, i wasn't in the test-taking mood when i sat down for it so i knew i probably wouldn't be scoring my best. and i did guess the entire last logic game (seriously wtf was that?). but even LR destroyed me and that's usually a very reasonable section for me.

im signed up for the january test and my score for PT72 was SIGNIFICANTLY lower than my last few tests :(

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Hi everyone,

The ABA has published its 2020 509 reports. We've updated our resources to include (1) the most recent medians for every law school and (2) a bunch of other data. New and exciting this year: we can finally see some statistics on GRE scores.

See the new medians here (in the same Coda doc that has application requirements) or here (a Google spreadsheet—scroll right for GRE information).

We've highlighted the changes between this year's medians and last year's here.

We've pulled out some of the most interesting ABA data for each school here.

A few quick points of interest:

  • Georgetown and Harvard each admitted more students by GRE (44 and 36) than any other law school, and more by percent (7.26% and 7.19%) than all but six other law schools.
  • Harvard's GRE medians (167/163/5 for Verbal/Quant/Writing) have percentiles of about 98, 84, and 93. Contrast that with their LSAT median of 173, which is about a 99th percentile score.
  • T14 LSAT medians were static. Only Chicago changed its median—with an increase of one. (There was a bit more movement in 25th and 75th LSAT percentiles and in GPA percentiles, but not a lot.)
  • Yield is funny. Did you know, for example, that Indiana University's McKinney School of Law has a better yield (48.48%) than Harvard (45.97%)?
  • Happy exploring, and happy New Year's!

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    Seems that this is my biggest weakness when I look back on why I'm missing questions on LR and RC. I'm really struggling to fully process the arguments without missing the smaller details. Like 70% of the questions I'm getting wrong on LR are mostly from missed details, the others being not properly I.Ding the argument and not understanding the abstract language in some ACs.

    Any tips for getting better at reading for detail? Obviously an important quality to have in law, but I've always been a big picture reader/thinker rather than a detailed oriented person, so it's a hard transition for me to make.

    This problem of mine is really exacerbated in the I.D the disagreement questions. I'm terrible at figuring out what word was misunderstood and what the two disagree about, since the questions require you to understand all of the more detailed implications of the two arguments.

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    It's not very clear on the website. LSAC says that they allow ear plugs starting Aug, 2020. I know that the plugs are allowed for the actual exam but for the writing sample the instruction page says Headphones, Earbuds are prohibited.

    I called LSAC for clarification but the rep I spoke with wasn't sure either. Her explanation was basically what's on the website. (she said as long as you can show it to the proctor it's fine, to which, I responded, "I thought there was no proctor for the writing sample and it's just my self-recording of the process??"

    I plan on using non-electronic foam ear plugs.

    Could someone who has taken the exam weigh in on this! Much appreciated.

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    Just started taking my first PTs since the diagnostic and am trying to prepare for the Feb LSAT. How much improvement do people usually see on the PTs?

    How's everyone generally feeling after their first couple of PTs?

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    If anyone is or knows a tutor who would be willing to help, it would be greatly appreciated. Any sort of pricing is fine with me, as I have saved up a reasonable amount in preparation for a moment such as this.

    I have been studying LSAT in general for more than a year and a half now and at least feel that I have a sound understanding of how LG works, but I have become inconsistent in my daily studies. I have been trying to get to the point where I know I can tackle most logic games in time, and reliably only miss a maximum of 4-5 on each LG section I take, but that has not been the case thus far. Like I said, I feel I have a sound understanding of how games work, it just seems that whenever one is put in front of me, I don't deliver. I do understand that not being consistent enough is very detrimental in LG especially, but I have been trying to recover from a crazy semester and let my mind be at ease. With that being said, I am ready to get back at every day consistency and am looking to score in the high 150s to the low 160s, so mastering LG would be huge for that score. Any help or referrals are greatly appreciated and everyone have a great end of the year.

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