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Hey guys, I have been studying for the LSAT for a bit over three months now, and I haven’t seen any improvement in LR in a very long time. On the last four timed LR sections I have taken, I consistently get -10. I went over the cc a second time and still haven’t improved my LR score at all. I think maybe it’s because I go through the questions too fast and don’t spend enough time thinking about the logical structure of each question; I always finish an LR section with about 3 minutes to spare. I get really stressed when I spend too much time on a question. I am scheduled to write the November LSAT and I am hoping to improve to -5/-6. Any pointers would help, thank you!

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Hi all,

I have been taking two tests a week since August and have had a consistent score increase to a peak at 166 last week. Lately I have been nailing drilling assignments but my scores in practice tests as of late have nose dived back to 160's. I take a day off a week and do not know why my results are going downward this close to the exam. Any help would be appreciated.

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So I’ve been self-employed for the past 4 years and I’m not sure how I should put that type of work experience on my resume for law schools. I do contract work for companies to make custom pieces for them and I’m not sure if I should list all my clients and how long I’ve been working with them? Or if I should just put that I’m an independent contractor and have a small description for what I do? And how do I make a distinction on my resume from my independent contract work and my past employment work?

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For all LSAT retakers - if you have seen all PTs at one point or another - what is the best material to study with? Is going back to the PTs you have seen still worthwhile? I figured that I should at least focus on the last 20 or so PTs.

Is there other good prep test material out there with PTs that are comparable to actual LSATs? I'm just trying to get as much practice as possible! I haven't seen PT88 - but leaving this for a couple weeks before my actual exam date. Thanks in advance!!

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I started studying for the LSAT in August and back then I scored around 155. Since then I've kept studying in the time I have left over from grad school. I just took a PT in the same controlled enviornment and received a 150. I'm equally weak in all questions (I missed around 12 questions from each section) and found that I am still presssed for time and unable to complete the last page for each section. It feels like all the time I spent practicing amounted to nothing and I'm at a loss.

It's clear I'm not ready and I just found out that I can only cancel my Janurary LSAT for a measly 50 dollars. Any suggestions on what to do? I'm looking to take the LSAT at least around June but I'm not even sure if Seoul, Korea offers a June test. There is one in March, although I'm not sure if I'll be ready by then tbh.

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Hi, I just wanted to know everyones experience with 7 sage and possibly how much your score improved. Also how long did you study using 7sage? I recently signed up for 7 sage and I just wanted to get people's feedback. I am also thinking of possibly doing powerscore classes in person but for right now I am just going to focus on 7sage i think. I am thinking of taking the LSAT next summer, give myself probably 5 to 6 months of studying. Also if you want to throw in any valuable study tips please do! Thank you!

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This might seem silly, but I feel like I screw myself over and waste a lot of time with poorly drawn charts/tables (in/out) on LGs.

I have the dexterity of an elephant and fat clumsy fingers. I know we aren't allowed to use rulers on the LSAT, but could we fold paper to make a ruler? Anyone have any pointers or is it just a matter of slowing down a bit to have a more legible diagram?

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Hey Guys! I'm looking for advice.

Here's a little background: I began my studies in July (initial PT 143) and have been studying full time (9-4) since. My score has gone up to a 159 (BR 164) (I took this test about a week ago) but I took two PT's after that and scored a 151(BR 157) & 152 (BR 159). I have NO IDEA why I am regressing.

My LG score is now at a -1/-5 depending on if I can finish the game set BR -0. BUT I CAN NOT SEEM TO INCREASE MY LR or RC score ): I BR after LR, but somehow i'm stuck at -7/-8 per section (BR is sometimes the same score sometimes it's -2). And my RC fluctuates vastly as well, but normally I only get about 14 correct. ): At this point I have no idea what to do. I feel so defeated after studying for five months and not even being able to reach 160's yet. So what would you guys do in this position?

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Any parents out there that are planning on attending law school or who are already in school? Just wanna make sure I'm not alone. I'm seeking some advice and input as to how y'all are faring and balancing parenthood with the rigors of a law school curriculum. I know there are a lot of factors involved, like the amount of help one receives from family, financial position, etc.

My baby will be born in March, and I'm planning on attending law school full time in the fall of 2020. I'm a bit anxious, but determined. Not sure how much help we will have from family, and my wife will be working about 60-70 hrs a week.

So, how will y'all manage? And, for those of you already in school, what advice do you have for maintaining your sanity?

Thanks in advance. You guys are awesome.

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Hi everyone! Because a student of mine is taking the January test and he won't be working on the lsat anymore, I'm looking for one more student now. If you're interested in working with me, please send me a message. Remember to tell me your RC score range, PTs that you have done, your weakness, the time you plan to take the test. Thanks!

Hi everyone! I’m Cindy. I would like to have a student and offer free tutoring on RC. Sami is my tutor and I’ve been working with her for nine months. I learned how to read actively, break down and evaluate the arguments on RC and I have made huge improvement (I was scoring -10+ before, I didn’t understand most of the things I read in RC). I am not a native speaker but the reading skills that I learned has helped me deal with the difficulty most of the time when I don’t understand the meaning of some words. Now I score around -5 on RC. I realized that the best way to improve my skills more quickly might be teaching it. This can be beneficial for both of us since we both get to improve. AND IT’S FREE!!! I am looking for someone who is currently scoring around -8 or more on RC and would like to work with me. It would be one hour per week. Please contact me if you’re interested. :)

I'm in GMT+8. It’s +14 hours ahead of CST. But we can definitely make this work.

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Is there anyone that works full-time and is going to go to law school part-time? I am teacher at a high school and am considering it, I am not sure how I would be able to do it though. Is anybody going to do this? If so, just curious what job do you have and how do you plan on juggling the two? It looks like the part-time evening programs run from 6-9 and only on weekdays, which means I would be working 8-4:30 (4:30 being the earliest I could leave). I go back and forth on whether or not this is feasible and if I should attempt it, any advice?

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LR Question Referring To: PT#J07 S#3 Q#17 (Exercising muscles in one back...)

Hey all! Hope all is well, I just have a question about how to properly analyze conditionals in Premises, Sub-Conclusions, and Conclusions? Right now I noticed that my understanding has been pretty lacking and I am not sure if I am steering myself in the right direction or not. If someone could perhaps correct my reasoning or approach that would be very much appreciated.

Premises

Proper Alignment ----> Muscles Opposite Sides Pull Equally

Sub Conclusion

Maintaining a Healthy Back ----> Balanced Muscle Development

Conclusion

Maintaining a Healthy Back ---> Exercise Muscles on Opposite Sides Equally

So upon reading @Sami wonderful explanation here (https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/9561/pt-june-2007-s3-q17-when-excercising-the-muscles) I saw that she identified a gap between the PA and MHB. While I was pouring over the relationship between the two I, perhaps falsely assumed, that Maintaining a Healthy Back ---> Proper Alignment because after considering the Negation of it being Maintaining a Healthy Back and /Proper Alignment I reasoned that Proper Alignment was a Necessary component for Maintaining a Healthy Back...

...and while I am writing this I feel like I am making assumption upon assumption :X because right this very second I am considering whether there are varying degrees of Proper Alignment, what the hell is even this Proper Alignment, what defines Proper Alignment, would 1% of a Improper Alignment be prevent ones back from being thrown into the category of Proper Alignment?! Anyways,

because should /Proper Alignment be the case it seems hard pressed for me to say that one could claim that they are Maintaining a Healthy Back. So upon reasoning or screwing myself over I saw that because Maintaining a Healthy Back ---> Proper Alignment I could connect up the Conditional in the Premises to the Sub Conclusion to get

Premises

  • Maintaining a Healthy Back ---> Proper Alignment ---> Muscles Opposite Sides Pull Equally
  • Maintaining a Healthy Back ---> Balanced Muscle Development
  • Conclusion

  • Maintaining a Healthy Back (MHB) ---> Exercise Muscles on Opposite Sides Equally
  • So from the Premises I inferred that Muscles Opposite Sides Pull Equally and Balanced Muscle Development because they were both now connected to Maintaining a Healthy Back. So I guess with that I just equated the two ideas (I am honestly not even sure if you can do that...) and just went off looking for something that would connect either Muscles Opposite Sides Pull Equally or Balanced Muscle Development to Exercise Muscles on Opposite Sides Equally because it seemed to be the only gap remaining.

    So then I read @Sami explanation again and under her explanation for Answer Choice: A she says...

    " we know that there is a relationship between balanced muscle developed and proper alignment of back, but does the stimulus say that having a balanced muscle development is sufficient/enough to guarantee the proper back alignment? No, its says its needed but does not guarantee that it would lead to a proper back alignment. Other things can also despite having a balanced muscle development could lead someone not to have the proper alignment of back."

    And now I am even more lost because I fail to see how the Stimulus says that Balanced Muscle Development is Necessary for Proper Alignment. It seems like all the Premises is doing is just explaining with the conditional (Proper Alignment ----> Muscles Opposite Sides Pull Equally) why the conditional in the Sub Conclusion is the case being (Maintaining a Healthy Back ----> Balanced Muscle Development). If we take what is contained in the Premises to be true and only question the support then wouldn't the already established connection Sami mentioned, Proper Alignment --> Balanced Muscle Development, already connect the Premises to the Sub-Conclusion because it would just be...

    Premises

    Maintaining a Healthy Back ---> Proper Alignment ----> Muscles Opposite Sides Pull Equally

    Conclusion

    Maintaining a Healthy Back ---> Exercise Muscles on Opposite Sides Equally

    because if we accept the Premises as true cant we chain up the other conditions associated with it which would basically mean that the first gap mentioned by Sami being between Proper Alignment and Maintaining a Healthy Back is essentially nonexistent?

    My apologies for the long post I am just concerned with how I feel like I arrived at the correct answer with some fucking bizarre reasoning that I cant even fully comprehend. Any help or clarification would be very much appreciated! Thanks again. I need a damn drink.

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    Through my 7sage account I have access to PTs 36-58; I have taken PTs 36-43. I am also taking the November & January LSAT. For my last 6 PTs I have been consistently scoring between 165-168 (diagnostic 153) and BRing always above 170.

    I started to get worried about the differences between the old and new LSATs so took PT 77 and scored just below my usual range (163) but not so much that it alarmed me. I honestly did not notice a major difference in the test - RC felt the same, LG was -1 and LR was where my score dipped but not too bad (during that hour the library was overrun with screaming 6 graders so that may be partially responsible for my dip in score).

    I am wondering if there are any success stories from people who only practiced from PTs up to 58 - I really do not want to spend more money on all of the latest PTs but also it is a small price to pay for LSAT success.

    I have access to some newer PTs but cannot BR them as they are with a different online course so this additional factor pushes me to want to use them as a diagnostic not a study tool.

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    I was scoring an average of 167, 169. I got three scores above170 in the last month. Now I just scored a 162 and before that I had a 165. I'm taking the November test. To anyone who has experience with underperformance-- why do you think you underperformed? What do you think helped or made it worse?

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    Hi guys! I'm trying to make the jump from 167 to 170. My BR score right now is 177. I missed 16 on PT 68 and missed 18 on 71. What is your advise? I'm planning to take the LSAT this November. I'm aiming for the top 14, so I don't know if 167 would still be a decent score. I really do want to break into the 170s if possible though. I'm studying full time so please give me your tips

    PT68 S1 2019-10-30 1 week ago RC -4 -3

    PT68 S2 2019-10-30 1 week ago LR -4 -1

    PT68 S3 2019-10-30 1 week ago LR -5 -1

    PT68 S4 2019-10-30 1 week ago LG -3 -1

    PT71 S1 2019-11-07 6 mins ago LR -5 -3

    PT71 S2 2019-11-07 6 mins ago LG -1 -0

    PT71 S3 2019-11-07 6 mins ago LR -6 -2

    PT71 S4 2019-11-07 6 mins ago RC -6 -1

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    what should I be doing in the last week/ final days before the test??

    I don't want to burn myself out, but I do want to keep making progress.

    ! or 2 PTs? or is that too many??

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    Are there any technical issues with the QB? It won’t allow me to select the difficulty of the question without unselecting the type of question.

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