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Hi guys,

I have narrowed my law school search down to the final two and I’m having a hard time deciding. I’m hoping maybe there are some people who are familiar with either program and can give me insight.

At Florida I received a full scholarship and a 6k annual stipend. At Emory I received a 171k scholarship to be disbursed over 6 semesters evenly (I estimated I would pay 18k in tuition over three years).

I have visited Emory and absolutely loved Atlanta plus the campus. I could not visit UF due to corona virus. My career goals are to become a judge. I ideally want to secure a federal clerkship out of law school and then work as a public defender or prosecutor. I could see myself working in Atlanta after school but I could not see myself staying in Florida; however, UF will save me up 45k in loans.

Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks everybody!

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Given the Coronavirus, FSU has given the students the option to choose to take whatever class on a P/F (or S/U) basis.

Would It look bad to have a lot of P/F in your law school application?

If it does make a difference what is the recommended maximum amount of P/F I should be wary of?

I also heard some law schools consider a Pass as a C and a Fail as an F on their GPA calculations. Is this just a rumor?

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What is the average cost of a tutor? Is there a more ideal time to use a tutor than others, for example, would it be better to get the additional help when I am first learning the basics and still going through the course, or when I've completed the course and still have challenges?

Thanks,

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So...

I used 7Sage to build my LSAT skills from June through November last year; improving from a PT average of 166 - 172 in the process. On the real thing, I only managed to score in the mid-160s twice (I blame nerves.) My uGPA was only 2.8 so I knew I needed a good LSAT to have a chance. My softs are probably as strong as one's can be since I am an active duty military senior leader. I am non-URM.

Today I was accepted at my target school: William and Mary Law. With a really great scholarship. I almost can't believe it!

Additionally, I have a full-ride to Nebraska and a 3/4 to University of San Diego. I'm also in at a few safety schools. Decisions, decisions...

Folks, this website is the best resource I found and I can honestly say I wouldn't be where I am without it/you (and an unbelievable amount of hard work.) I studied an average of four hours a day for 11 months. There is light at the end of this tunnel if you give it your sincere effort.

Thank you for reading, fam! Onward and upward!

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What’s up 7sage community! I’m currently an undergraduate student in engineering at an Asian country who wants to go to an elite law school (Harvard, Columbia, etc.). In this stage of my life, I find myself struggling with the thought of applying to these law schools very soon as the months grow nearer, so I was wondering if anyone who came from an undergraduate degree that is completely unrelated to law got into any of the top schools, or if getting an LSAT in the 170s along with strong extracurriculars would suffice? Can anyone share some advice on how I would be able to achieve my goal of becoming a law student in a good school?

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Sometimes scoring 5/5 without BR

Sometimes scoring 3/5 with BR or

5/5 with BR

My track record for MSS are all over the place and I can't find the underlying theme or thread for why I can't be consistent in my scores.

I found that with MP questions I was able to figure it out and find a strategy that worked but are there any tips on this?

I think I'm just not understanding MSS..

(even though I've learned that the stimulus holds the premise and the answer choice holds the conclusion)

I'm concerned - any thoughts anyone ? :$

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Right now, the arrow keys on 7Sage are shortcuts to go to the previous or next lesson/explanation. On some video sites, arrow keys are used to fforward or rewind video.

Some students don't like this, so we are thinking about changing it.

[Update]:

Thank you for your feedback everyone! The keyboard shortcuts are now:

← = Rewind 5s

→ = Fast forward 5s

shift + ← = Previous Lesson

shift + → = Next Lesson

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Should I try to change the way I do LR and focus on the loophole book? Im more or less happy with the way im scoring now and Im scared changing up my strategy would hurt me. Any thoughts? I signed up for March but obviously its delayed to April, still no idea if thats even happening. If its delayed to June I should def have enough time to internalize the loophole book right?

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I've been studying full time for about a year and have either drilled or PTed all of PT1-60. Right now I have about 30 fresh new PTs and trying my best to be economic with them. Unfortunately, I'm still not at my target score (165+) and typically score between156-163, but usually score on the lower end (158-160). Recently I've been drilling old LR sections and foolproofing the 1-35 bundle again to work on weaknesses (LG is my weakest section right now) but taking new PTs only once in a while to check my progress. If I'm planning to sit for June/ July and still have a way to go in hitting my target score, should I be retaking old PTs instead of new PT's and save the new ones for closer to the date? Or rotate between old PT's and new Pt's for the time being? Thank you in advance, any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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I am just wondering if I should use the study schedule 7sage provides, or if I should keep going through the CC by section. I haven't been using the schedule at all, I've simply just gone through the lessons on the CC and am still on LR. I just recently looked on the study schedule and saw that it is wanting me to study LG and RC every week as well. I am pretty concerned if I have been studying wrong the entire time, since I haven't used the schedule at all and just have been going through the syllabus for LR so far.

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Hi all! I hope everyone is safe and healthy during these times!

If for my last semester, I received an A- in a class while I previously received all A's, is this considered a 'drop' in my grades? (The A- was for an intro to digital photography class which is graded very subjectively)

Also, I took a class for pass/no pass and received a pass for the class in the same semester. Will this negatively affect me in admissions?

Thanks for your help!

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Hey everyone,

For some odd reason now matter how much I go through CC by the time I start LG, I forget LR. Do you have any methods I can implement in order to retain the information from CC? Should I review it every night?

Secondly, for those that have gone back and restudied CC again, is there any specific approach you used? How do you study? Do you go through LG first then LR then RC or do you study all three at the same time? This is really confusing me.

Thanks!

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Hi,

I understand why the answer here is B (because this shows that it is possible that the person knew Drew well and sent Drew roses to piss him off), but I can not quite pinpoint why A is wrong. Most traditional explanations for why A is wrong include the line of reasoning that it is perfectly possible that "most" people may not include the person that sent roses to Drew; but how is this line of reasoning consistent with B being correct? After all, it is also perfectly possible that "some" of the people who send flowers for reasons other to please may not be the person who sent the roses to Drew.

Thus, I feel that there should be a better explanation for why A is wrong, but I have trouble pinpointing it in my head.

Any #help would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Admin note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-31-section-2-question-19/

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In a tale as old as time, I came into LSAT prep with the notion that this test would be something I could (relatively) painlessly learn and conquer. I studied haphazardly and obviously failed to get anywhere close to my target score. I decided to throw myself wholly into prep and immerse myself in the LSAT world. I am a working professional and people couldn't fail to notice I wasn't visiting happy hours as often. I felt good and slowly told people I was going to be attending law school in the fall of 2019. I work with incredibly smart folks who were blessed with the ability to take the LSAT once and score well enough to get into a top 10 school. They kindly believed that I would have no issues scoring well and thus reach my goal of attending a top 10 school.

Unfortunately, I did not hit my goal and had to retract my previously stated plan. It was incredibly humbling to admit I had not gotten the score I wanted. Luckily, my boss was happy to have me stay another year. I reemerged myself in the LSAT world, doubling down on my prep and taking a few days of PTO here and there to study. Fall of 2020 was the new plan.

Alas, I am here. I took the test and didn't make the progress I needed to get into top 15 schools. I hoped my softs would carry me a bit, but I have been rejected by every school so far. I am truly at a loss for what to do. I feel like my vision for the future has been ripped from me and I have boxed myself in completely. My partner has been patient with me during my prep and I cannot bear the thought of telling them that this year isn't going to work. I was so confident and would be absolutely crushed to tell my boss that once again, I will not be leaving in the fall to attend law school. Do I apply to lesser ranked schools and try to transfer? I don't think I can give up on law completely - it's been my goal for so long. A part of me wants to use this social distancing time to secretly prep and take the test again without telling anyone. But that still leaves me having to tell everyone it's one more year.

I'd love some advice! I really am at such a loss with how to move forward. I am happy to provide more details if needed.

Also - if you've stayed with me this long, I'd like to offer some advice: absolutely do not register for the test until you are consistently scoring at your targeted range. I had a false sense of bravado that I would magically score points better on the "real thing."

Thank you so much!

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So I’m studying some Constitutional Law and learning that WOW does the First Amendment not say what I thought it said (and what you almost certainly think it says).

Just going to leave this here. Use the careful reading skills you’ve learned studying for the LSAT and see if you can spot what I’m talking about.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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Hi guys,

I feel like I have a good grasp of how to improve in the LG and LR sections, but not necessarily the RC section. I'm a scientist so the science passages are quite easy for me. I know that I need to improve on art and law passages.

What I have been doing:

So far, I have been printing off art and law RC sections, doing them individually timed (8.5 min) and BR'ing them right away from PT 36 - 41. I've been working on developing my skipping strategy more, where on my first pass I note any questions to return to on my second pass. I tend to have a mix of questions to return to, some are the ones that I nailed down to 2 ACs and need to choose the one, but some are the ones that I read all ACs and just had no clue, and some are the ones that I needed to refer back to the passage and would take a bit of time to do so. At the same time, I try to identify any questions to be my "loser" and try to focus the remainder of my time on questions that I can get right. I just started developing this more consciously on both LR and RC.

My reading time for the passage is generally between 2.5 - 3.5 minutes. I tend to get -1 or -2 wrong per passage, which would be -4 to -8 in the RC section. Not good enough for what I want... I seem to struggle a bit with inference and most strongly supported type questions.

How do you think I should structure my studying to go forward? I am not completely certain that just doing more passages with thorough blind review will help improve my score. My goal is to try and get consistently -4 per RC section or better.

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Hello! I am struggling to see how and where each lesson applies to what section of the actual test. Is there anywhere for me to find that info? I think it will be more helpful for my learning if I am understanding the end goal.

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Trying to study full time before the July exam. Especially with the quarantine I feel that it is easy to fall off track and I am calling for an accountability buddy.

Hoping my accountability buddy and I can just send each other check in/out messages at the below times

Check in same time every day: share our study goals for the day

Take designated breaks at the same times

"Log off" for the day - check out: share what we accomplished toady

This would be just to hold each other accountable - not for the purposes of tutoring...but of coarse I can help if I can be of any use.

I live in Calgary, Alberta - MDT so of coarse it will be more helpful if we have the same time zones or time zones kind of close to one another at the least

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Happy Sunday,

I just wanted to share with my fellow 7Sager's what technique I have used to really help me with not only answering LR questions faster, but also to really dive into the stimulus and understand it.

Think of yourself as already being an attorney, and that your opposing counsel just gave you an argument, which in this case would be the stimulus. You know in order to win your case, you need to defeat his/her argument in court and tell the Judge why his/her argument is flawed. Thus, as an attorney, your job is to pick out the details of the argument, break down the structure and counter what the opposing counsel said so you can win.

This technique has really helped me because we all want to be lawyers (unless you're taking the LSAT just for fun which would be crazy) and because we want to be lawyers, we have to read with attention to detail and pick out what is wrong with other people's arguments and explain to the Judge on why you are right and opposing counsel is wrong.

Overall, think of yourself as an already licensed attorney and you're just going through the motions of breaking down opposing counsels argument, picking out the flaw, or just simply rationalizing what they said. If you can focus on that and dummy it down, in no time you'll be killing the LR sections.

Lastly, if someone has already used this analogy, Kudos because it has really helped me out.

Have a great week everyone and feel free to share other analogous techniques you have used in the comments!

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