In the recent months, I've seen posts on Reddit where people are PTing all time highs of 160+, right after the change to Flex. Not sure about here, but I presume its likely the same. The format of Flex makes LG and RC worth so much more than before. Also, there is a consensus that LG is the easiest to improve at. Now that there's only one LG, RC, and LR section for Flex, it'd be far easier to get a higher score by even only improving your LG since it's weight is worth the same as LR and RC.

I'm not sure how all of this is going to impact the admission cycle for 2021. A little worried about this, but I suspect previous admission scores won't necessarily be a good indication of what scores will get you in for 2021. I suspect it will probably be a few points higher.

What are your thoughts?

Hello all,

I was initially going to wait until after taking Nov LSAT but I just couldn’t wait... so I did it. I applied. It was really exciting and now the anticipation begins. I do have questions. I will go ahead and take the Nov lsat regardless. But will the updated score get sent to the schools I applied to before the decision is rendered? What if the decision is rendered after I take the lsat? I’m guessing I will have to go through the application process again for all of the law schools with the updated score?

Does anyone know where I can find a logical reasoning questions categorized by the flaw (Ad hom, equivocation,etc.)

Hi everyone, hope your studies are going well. I just wanted to share an explanation of SUFFICIENT and NECESSARY conditions. This explanation is something I randomly came up with and I hope it works for someone trying to understand how that works in LAWGIC.

Explanation of the Sufficient/Necessary condition:

I want you to imagine that you are trying to enter into the most secure building on earth. There is only one way into the building, and that’s through a giant electronic glass door.

Conditions:

YOU are on the outside.

YOU have a proximity card that can be scanned to open the door

There is also a buzzer outside the door that you can ring.

When you do ring the buzzer, the door can be opened on the inside by a SECURITY guard.

Some days your proximity card works and some days it does not. Depending on if you are needed in the building on that day.

So there we have it.

Now:

SUFFICIENT: You scan your proximity card OR you ring the buzzer.

NECESSARY: The door opens

Scenario one:

a. The necessary thing you needed to enter the building: DOOR OPENING, has failed.

b. If that door failed to open what else do we know? Well, your card didn’t work or the guard was just not going to let you in that morning. IN short, door didn’t open. Thus all the things that could’ve made it open... someone walking ahead of you or leaving the building or using your card or the guard pressing the buzzer didn’t happen. )

I really hope this helps. It's lengthy but I imagine it would be much simpler as a short cartoon.

I'm a non URM with a 3.17 undergrad GPA. I wasn't at all prepared when I got to college and didn't have the maturity for it. After 2 years I had a 2.2 GPA and over the next few, worked my way back up to a 3.17. I'm aiming for a 170 LSAT and I'm not too worried about hitting at least 168+ but definitely think 170 is doable. (PTing at 165 after 5 or 6 weeks with lots of room for improvement on LG where I'm currently -7 to -10)

How much do admissions tend to care about the trajectory vs the flat value of the GPA? I definitely plan to write about this growth in maturity and change in mindset that allowed me to grow from a terrible student to a solid one but I know a 3.17 cumulative is low.

Ideally looking to get into UT.

Thanks all.

Hey! Does anybody know if you ordered a score preview for the October LSAT-Flex when it will become available? And where will we be able to see it? In LSAC or Proctor U?

Hi guys, I just have a question for those applying this cycle. Have you guys received emails from certain law schools encouraging you to apply and granting you fee waivers as incentive?? I received a couple, but I don't know if I should take them seriously. Some are pretty dope schools and I just don't think I am even in their range sometimes so I don't know if I should take this as legit interest or if they're just fishing for candidates..... I just don't want to get in over my head and think that they actually want me in their student body lmao Regardless, I will be applying to some of them and the fee waiver is definitely nice considering how much LSAC takes from us already lol I know I saw a discussion about this a couple weeks ago, but can't find it so I am making my own. Any opinions and answers would be appreciated! Thank you

Hi, I have two questions which might have one simple answer.

Can someone please explain to me why I shouldn't do a biconditional every time it says if m, not k (m --> /k). I mean the contrapositive would be if k, not m (k --> /m). So why not write it as m (---) /k ?

How does biconditional affect the rule of "if Sufficient condition not satisfied rule goes away and if necessary condition satisfied rule goes away"? when there is "m (---) /k" and the question says "not k" then the rule goes away?

Hi did anyone skip sections and go right to the tests? I'm kind of anxious to see if I have retained what I have learned.

Hi!! I'm applying to JD and MA in international policy programs this cycle. Because I've been so focused on the LSAT, I haven't studied for or taken the GRE. The schools I'm applying to say they're GRE-blind this year (and I know some take the LSAT as a substitute). What does GRE-blind mean exactly? Will not taking the GRE hurt in any way? How is this different than GRE-optional? #help

Hi everyone,

I'm a current junior in undergrad studying English (major), Government (minor), and Africana Studies (tons of course work). At my school I'm also a Mellon Mays fellow and my research is in comparative Caribbean literature. I want to get a PhD someday, in either English, African American studies, African American literature, comparative literature, or Sociology. But I ALSO really want to get a JD and become a law professor, teaching critical race theory.

Previously I had planned to 1. go to law school, 2. work at a firm and pay off my considerable undergrad debt (around 80k) and whatever law school debt I may have then 3. think about becoming a law professor. And then later in life I'd get my PhD and become a regular undergrad professor. Or maybe I'd get my PhD before becoming a law professor.

Now I've gotten enticed by joint JD/PhD programs, especially Northwestern's, which is fully funded. But the catch about having to go directly into legal academia and research, and not even being able to think about working at a law firm, gives me pause. I just read a forum about someone at who did Northwestern's JD/PhD program and not being able to find a job, which really alarms me because I need some way to pay off my undergrad loans. Going to a joint program for six years and not being able to find a job is something that can't happen to me.

So, where should I go? I've been studying for the LSAT for 3 months now (and haven't really gotten anywhere) and plan to study as long as it takes. I also plan to take a gap year or two between undergrad and and the JD or join JD/Phd program. I plan to write a thesis next year, and for anyone wondering, I am definitely not thinking about solo PhD programs right now. Also I'm not super in to research yet. Also, a lot of my professional and work/internship experience is in diversity, equity, and inclusion and I would like to go into that field someday as well. Also I can also see myself as a author (fiction, poetry, nonfiction) down the road.

So clearly I don't know for sure what I want to do yet. For sure, I feel compelled to go to law school and get that big salary. My undergrad loans weigh heavily on me and I'm cognizant of interest building up during the 3, 6, or 8+ years it takes me to get my degrees.

Any and all insight is much appreciated.

RC is holding my back from getting the score I want. LG is my strongest section and LR is my 2nd best. RC however-is horrible. I am almost embarrassed to say this but whatever...I can get anywhere from -8 to a whopping -13 (and it is usually the latter number)!

I have tried just about everything from low-res notes, passage structure, slowing down, reading faster, feigning interest. It is making me feel like I will never get over this hump. I usually do an RC section a day or every other day. I took a few days off from the LSAT since the Oct-Flex to freshen up but just bombed an RC section that I took.

I keep seeing people post about RC and I implement the advice others get so I am not sure how many people will be able to suggest anything new or different, but I am open to anything at this point.

The crazy thing is sometimes I will finish a section and be like okay, this is working I think I did well-only to be super disappointed when I see my wrong Qs after BR.

PLEASE HELP!

Blueprint explanations vs JY? what do y’all think?

Hi everyone! I'm taking the LSAT-Flex in November and currently I'm doing 2 PT a week. However, my score is still fluctuating so much. Are there any PT that measure performance more accurately than the rest?

Thank you!

On LSAT Flex rules it says that you can only have 5 pieces of paper and a pen/pencil + eraser without a sleeve. Are mini whiteboards prohibited? I believe they are but just wanted to double check since the GRE uses them.

Thank you!

Can you wear ear plugs during lsat writing? I thought you could but when you go on the proctoring thing it says no ear plugs unless you have accommodations

Please messsage me if you need LG help!

LSAC has received my college transcripts and the academic summary report currently says "Transcript analysis data not on file". Do I need to purchase CAS before I can see my LSAC gpa?

I was hoping to see if someone has be able to make a concise explanation/understanding of this indicators and their respective rules. I find the them to be a bit confusing relative to #1 and #2 - especially because the rule states you can pick either idea to negate and then it becomes the suff. cond.

Hoping to see if theres something a bit more straightforward. Thanks in advance.

Hi all!

I'm taking the November and January LSATs and honestly don't really have that much time to study as I have a full time job and a generally pretty busy lifestyle. Instead of study buddies that are more hands-on, I simply need somebody that can be an accountability buddy that will make sure that I am spending some time studying at all. I am scoring in early to mid 160s and hope to score 170+ by January. Is there anybody in a similar situation that wants to join me in pushing each other? As well, I am applying to Canadian schools, so if there is anybody here that might want to swap application info with, that'd be great too.

Thanks!

I just took the lsat writing portion on my boyfriends desktop computer. It passed all the system checks and everything like that, but while I was writing something popped up that said “prohibited application in use: game bar”. I didn’t know what that meant so I just pressed ok and kept writing. Then I asked my boyfriend what that was and he said Microsoft game bar is always running in the background. Could that make my writing disqualified? Or would they be able to see that I obviously didn’t use it? Should I call LSAC and explain?

Hi for those of you that have taken LSAT Flex or know of people who have taken the test, how long did it typically take to receive your score?

I am in a dilemma right now, my school's documents are due February 1, 2021 and I am planning on taking the January 16 test (assuming its going to be Flex as well).

Anyone got any tips/strategies for tackling PF? They're my worst area. I do pretty okay when it's a common invalid argument form but often times I can't really see what the flaw is if it doesn't follow that. Also not sure when to map out the stimulus and when I shouldn't.

Hi everyone! I recently did another PT & BR. I'm discouraged because my BR is 11 points higher than my PT score (think from 145PT to 156BR range). Obviously I want to get to a true score of 156+, and the BR did show me that I have the potential to score well and continue to grow to the score I want (165)....But HOW do I do this?

What are your suggestions to overcome time anxiety? I want to be more precise with my answers, but with the knowledge that the time is running, I make dumb mistakes and miss rules. Also, how did you guys just overall get faster? I keep drilling things but have not hit the speed I need/want. Should I just keep doing drills? More PTs? Any help is appreciated.

Hi everyone,

Pursuant to some advice that I had recently received, I have signed myself up for a few "admissions roadshows". Would be great if you folks could shed light on what to expect from these events, the degree of interaction that one can have with members of the admissions committees of the law schools participating in/hosting these events, and faux passes to avoid. In essence, the things that one can/ought to do, to: (i) make the most of these events; and (ii) create a favorable impression on the admissions officers with whom one would be interacting.

Any tips and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Also, exactly how specific would it be advisable for one to be in relation to answering personal questions (which I am given to understand may be asked by the admissions officers)?

Thanks a bunch, and hope y'all have a great cycle!