Hi, my scores have been fluctuating for the past three months. It would go as high as 170 and low as 158. This month it went from 158 to 167. For example, like today I got a 160 on lsat 85 but I got a 167 on lsat 38, I got a 164 on lsat 84 but a 158 on LSAT 68.

My RC is the only thing that is consistent (75% correct) but my LR would go from being 95% right to 65% and vice versa but for LG. Has anyone experienced this and how can I be more consistent? Most common answers are 1) lack of focus 2) you got easy sections 3) don't take older tests. What do you think?

Hi all,

I am just starting out on my LSAT journey (I bought Ultimate+ five minutes ago). I will be applying to law school in Fall 2020 with the goal of taking the LSAT between June - September 2020.

For those of you who are farther along in your journey, what advice would you give a young grasshopper like me, or if you could do it all over again? I know the basics - don't waste valuable, recent PTs, the LSAT is harder than you think, the worst thing is not knowing what you don't know...

Open to any and all advice, specifically how I should pace the CC, balancing working full-time and studying, and long term (8+ months) study plans.

Hi Fam,

Been recklessly checking my email and logging into LSAC although I know nothing will change yet. I just need a place to let off my steam.

Does anyone know at what time should we expect our scores to be released? Should I stay up until midnight or am I going to be filled with anxiety the wole day?

I heard so many horror stories with underlining and highlighting.

Is the real thing different from 7sage in terms of latency and accuracy?

Also, I use iPad Pro 2nd + Apple Pencil 1. Has anybody been practicing with that combination noticed difference on the real thing?

Hi everyone, I am answering the following question on a Character and Fitness disclosure:

"Have you ever been a party to any noncriminal legal proceeding, such as a civil lawsuit, an arbitration, an administrative legal proceeding, or a family court or domestic abuse proceeding? Being a party to a legal proceeding means that you are one of the participants who has a legal interest in the outcome, such as if you sued or were sued by someone, and it includes having any type of order of protection issued against you. It does not include merely being a witness in a legal proceeding."

...I was part of a class action lawsuit, not because I elected to be, but because a former employer was taken to court regarding wages, and the employer ended up settling. I received a $600 payout as a result. Do I need to answer yes to this?

In case this helps anyone:

When down to 2 ACs that weaken an argument to 2 different degrees, pick the one that matches the degree of the conclusion.

When down to ACs that provide sufficient and/or necessary conditions that could serve as the missing link (SA), pick the one that clearly triggers or fails something. If it's a mystery, that doesn't help at all.

Don't second guess yourself when only one AC is right. If all other ACs have been confidently eliminated, flagging that question will only cost you valuable time.

When down to 2 ACs that both mention the key word or concept you know will be in the correct AC, only one is in precisely the right context. Make sure the key element is performing/describing the correct thing.

If you're confused when piecing together a list of facts, some with numbers, some with %s, give the situation real round numbers and apply them to the contending ACs. Don't mistake many for most. Many could be some, which could be a different subset from some other some. (Some historians claim X, many historians are wrong - do not assume overlap.) Some can mean just one. 

When looking for a NA in an argument that strikes you as just plain weak, say to yourself, "Within the universe of this shitty argument, which AC points out something that matters, something that absolutely has to be true or else the shitty argument has no leg to stand on in the first place?"

When 2 ACs have the proper conditions to satisfy what MBT, pick the one that matches the stimulus in terms of what is sufficient versus what is necessary. Don't get turned around by the language. What is literally required? Put everything methodically into S->N. Don't overthink.

Parse out the conclusion of convoluted arguments. Sometimes it's just stating that an action will lead to a goal, the NA is that it's possible for said action to lead to said goal.

With parallels, remember sentence order NEVER matters and logic order ALWAYS matters. Be sensitive to distinctions such as "any" versus "one instance."

When there's no obvious explanation for a phenomenon in a RRE, look for an AC that would push one element of the equation in the particular direction that would provide an alternative explanation of the phenomenon. Do NOT give in to bringing in outside bias (such as generic costs less than brand names).  

Don't let ACs bait you into "attacking" or "rethinking" a premise - you must assume all premises are completely true no matter what. Period. You are only trying to attack the manner in which the premises "prove" the conclusion. Never pick an AC that merely restates a premise. That's not even good enough for PSA. It does NOTHING.

Never settle for, pick or eliminate an AC you don't understand. Never help an AC out and try to make it fit the mold of a particular flaw. ONLY pick it if it makes total sense.

Be sensitive to WHILE as a conclusion indicator. While X (concession), really Y (conclusion).

Argument parts sometimes can be assumptions or denials of assumptions. Label them as you go. 

Don't assume the exact same number of people need to be tested in an experiment. Pay attention when a stimulus starts to compare apples to oranges (or bone samples to blood samples).

Be sensitive to subtlety. (Saying it's wrong for a country to diminish prosperity isn't the same as saying it's wrong to hinder the growth of prosperity.)

If you're spending too much time stuck between 2 ACs, SKIP, read again on Round 2 with the rest eliminated.

Always bear in mind that just because someone claims, says, believes, thinks something does NOT make it one of the things in the stimulus that we accept as true. Accept what the author says. Everything else is suspect. 

Hi All, I just took Oct LSAT in Asia (can't discuss, zip my mouth...), nothing disastrous happened although I was slightly nervous. Usually I score between 167-170. I want to apply to Cornell. If I get 165-167, which is below the median I'll should retake LSAT in January. In that case, should I still submit application in November when the score is released or do I risk being rejected out of hand? Advice is much appreciated!

Major: Comp Sci, Chem

GPA: 3.8

Other: work as engineer

can you skip to other questions and then go back? or are you forced to complete the questions in order???

I was just listening to the Thinking LSAT podcast and LSAT unplugged youtube channel. I 100% understand that it is much better to expand access in order to level the playing field for those that really need it. However, with the increasing amount of people that are trying to game the system, what do you personally think is going to happen?

Thinking LSAT thinks the LSAC will change the test and make it somewhat harder, because those that have extra time tend to score much much higher than those without it, and that number of people seems to be going up? If this is true, will this happen soon, like over the next year or two? After all, it is somewhat surprising to see the number of people with accommodations go up 400% in 4 ish years.

Hi,

When will the September LSAT be available to take digitally on 7sage? Thanks in advance!!

I know that when practicing on 7Sage we get the option of doing this. I was wondering if this option will be on the actual exam as well.

Hi y'all,

My current study partner and I are looking for a third person to join us for full-length PTs and BR sessions in-person.

We meet by the library at Bryant park Saturday mornings, take our PT, self-review, take a break and then BR as a group. Sessions are intense and last pretty much all day long (going from 10am-7/8pm or so). We're studying for the October & November exams and looking for another study partner committed to reaching a mastery-level understanding of this test, ideally someone already scoring in the165+ range under timed/BR conditions.

We review pretty thoroughly with the goal of extracting as many little lessons as we can from the questions.

Feel free to hmu to discuss further, if interested. Thanks! :)

Does anyone feel that the newer LRS are actually easier? Because im testing pretty far away, I try to sprinkle in as many old PTs as I can. On the newer tests I can go -3 to -6. But on the really old ones I can never get better than -6 haha. I feel like the old ones are just so weird.

Ive been doing ok on LR...should I skip over the explanations for the wrong answers and just focus on why I got the answer right??

Working on a time crunch.

Hi! So I understand why D is correct but I thought that the sentence "the position that X is unsustainable" was the position the author was trying to defend. In that he/she is defending that it is unsustainable. Why is this thought process not right? It's why I picked B

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I'm used to taking lsats on paper where I can cross out wrong answer choices. Does the digital test allow you to mark up the test? For LG, i've been writing out a,b,c,d,e on a piece of scrap paper, but I feel like writing these letters out is time consuming. Any tips for taking the digital lsat? How different is the digital test is from the original test?

Is it allowed for September LSAT takers to send copies of the test to other people? It seems that the rest of us won't have access to it until late November which makes it irrelevant for me since my test is Oct 28. I would be willing to edit personal statements for that test. I am a high school English teacher for what it is worth.

Anyway I put this out there if anyone is interested, just message me.

I decided that I am going to take the lsat in January 2020 so that I can at least make an attempt at being accepted somewhere for Fall 2020. I took the PT and got a 141 without any prior knowledge of the test. All of the schools I am looking at have median lsat scores of 158 or lower. The highest ranking one is in the low 60's. I would like to set a goal for myself of getting between 155-160. Given that I have a 12 week window, is that a realistic goal? I purchased the Powerscore Bible Trilogy and two books with 10 practice tests a piece. I also plan on dedicating 3-4 hours a day M-F, as well as 6+ hours per day on Saturday and Sunday. I also plan on using the 7Sage LSAT Starter. I have no intent on trying to get a scholarship. I just want to be able to submit competitive applications. I have an undergrad GPA of 3.33 and a graduate GPA of 3.53 (I know these don't really count for much).

Long story short, is it realistic to think that I could obtain a score in the mid 150's with a three month study window?

Hey guys and gals Nov test taker here

I’ve been hitting -3 or better on Lr sections through the PT60s, but just hit a -8 on section 4 on PT 69. I’m not too worried because I had heard about a shift in Lr around this range. I’m hoping I will adapt.

Can anyone speak to what changes they noticed if any and what you did to adapt?

TIA

Anyone going? I will be there on Friday 10/11!

Hi friends, I just finished my first PT after finishing the CC. I scored a 162 (165 on BR) and my best section by far was RC (-3 raw, -0 BR). I found that there were quite a few questions that I got wrong solely on blind review. Does anyone have any tips to help remedy that? Any tips in general on how (or if it’s even possible to) increase my score to the high 160s by the November test?

Hey everyone

I noticed I have been doing this a LOT

It is costing me 5-7 points per LR section

I find the correct AC, I circle it, and I think its wrong, so I look through the "lower" ACs, and chose something else. I go back during my BR and -- DUH -- the solutions become apparent?

My BR score is 165-170ish, my PT score is mid 150. Like 155? It vacillates, depending on how CARELESS I am. All my errors are CARELESS and these are really the worst kinds of errors. All I can think of during my BR is how careless and dumb I am.

Then, I tend to get "trapped" on certain questions... I end up spending a lot of time on them, sometimes I get them right (most of the time), and there are always AC's at the end that I miss. It is VERY frustrating. If I just picked my first AC choice and moved on, I would have gotten it right AND saved myself more time for the last few questions. Problem is I have so much self-doubt, I have a really really hard time picking an AC and moving on?? My goal is to get -20 overall (or more in non absolute terms).

Has anyone else struggled with this? What should I do now? I am supposed to write this month :(

Read on the news that a recent lawsuit means that over the next four years LSAC will be taking out the LG section and replacing it with a brand new section. Does anyone know if they are going to make any immediate changes though? I have heard rumors that they are going to grant the option not to take Logic Games at all!!

Hey all

So my October LSAT is in the grand Hyatt NYC hotel, which is in midtown. I’m coming from NJ so I’m taking the NJ transit to Penn station. I’m thinking I might need my phone in this journey to use google maps as I make my way to the test center. Is there a place I can put my phone at like the hotel before I enter the test cite? Or should I make the commute from NJ to NYC without my phone, and just memorize the directions in my head?

Also, if Anyone had experience testing in grand Hyatt nyc or at hotel, would love any feedback or advice. Thank you!