Hi all!

It's been about a year and a half since I began my journey of studying for the LSAT and applying to law school, and (in no small part due to help from 7Sage) I now have the best, but hardest decision to make.

I have about two weeks to decide whether to accept a T10 school's top scholarship, which would allow me to leave law school debt-free, or to accept my admission to Yale (at full cost). Basically, Yale would cost about $225,000 more than the other T10 school (and more once interest on loans is considered). The T10 scholarship covers full tuition/fees and includes a sizable yearly stipend. Both are great options, and if the cost differential weren't so great I'd probably go to Yale, but, well... That's a huge amount of money to pay considering the alternative that's available to me.

After law school I'm hoping to clerk, work for a large firm for a while, and probably eventually move to the public sector. Those goals are quite attainable (obviously) from both schools, though Yale holds a special place in the minds of many employers (and attorneys).

So I'm hoping ya'll can share your thoughts on a question and vote in the attached poll. The question for the comments is, how much more would you be willing to pay to attend Y/H/S vs. another T10 law school?

Many thanks to those who respond! I'm really fretting about this decision.

In one of the current applications I am working on, they want me to list the other schools I have applied to or intending to apply to. What is the best way to reply to this without hurting my chances? I do plan to apply to a few other schools regionally and they are not as high in ranking as the one I am currently filling out the application for... Thanks in advance.

I just finished the Core Curriculum (starter package version). Apparently it's supposed to take 95 hours to complete, but it took me just about 285 hours over 7 months of studying! Yep, that's pretty nuts or sad or whatever, but hey I finished :)

My only saving grace/excuse for taking such a freaking long time is that I did foolproof every game in the CC).

So I'm excited (and a bit nervous) to get started with PTing. Not sure why I posted this lol, but hey, it's a free country :)

I was just wondering if Law Schools looked down on or dont make a big deal about community college grades in comparison to those i attained at my four year university. My CC GPA was higher than my University GPA and it ends up balancing it out. Anyone have any thoughts about this? Thanks!

New lesson courtesy of @"selene.steelman":

https://classic.7sage.com/admissions/lesson/what-questions-should-you-ask-a-law-school-admissions-officer/

I need some advice on where I should put my deposit money. My goal is to work in immigration law, and I've got no strong feeling one way or another about where I want practice, but I do not want to feel limited. I've received a full ride from Indiana (they've extended their deadline for me), Illinois, and Wisconsin. I've been offered $30,000 a year from Minnesota. I know that Minnesota has a lot of options for those interested in immigration, however the price tag scares me. I'll be paying for law school all on my own, I'm out of state, and I've already got to worry about $30,000 in undergraduate loans. Is Minnesota worth the extra debt, or should I take the full ride at a different school?

77.3. - Game 3 is a doozy! I was getting into a better groove with timed LG and then...this one. Holla if you hear me.

Anyone else worried about going to law school and then, with the advent of AI, not finding a job? I have seen various studied and predictions about the pace of AI's growth and dominance, but I'm not sure what to believe...

If there is a real threat to law careers, which field in law would be the least susceptible to that threat?

Hi all,

I received a full-tuition scholarship from a 100+ ranked school that I have little intention of attending. However, I would like to continue leveraging this scholarship as I negotiate with other schools. I understand that May 15th is the "First Deposit Overlap Report" and I know that schools will see which offers I am still holding on to. Do you think it's necessary for me to put the 1st deposit ($300) on a school that I don't really want to attend in order to continue utilizing it as a tool for scholarship negotiation?

I don't want to tell schools that I am "considering a full-tuition scholarship from X school" and request a scholarship offer "more in line with X school", only to have them be able to call my bluff on May 15th...

Let me know what you all think!

Thank you,

LAWYERED

Hi all,

I'm not sure this is super important in the grand scheme of things, but I'm wondering if I should be inputting all my BR answers when completing a practice test. I've just been adding the BR questions that are different than my original answer, but would it be more accurate in my "BR Score" to list all my BR answers even if they match my original answer? Does that change anything in the analytics in terms of knowing which ones I'm confident on or something?

Thank you!

Has anyone used Ellen Cassidy's new LR book -- The Loophole. There seem to be rave reviews on Reddit. If you have used it, is there anything revolutionary about it? Are its approaches similar to 7Sage's?

Studying for the LSAT is so brutal that when you hit a goal like this it is important to take a deep breath and appreciate the work you have put in thus far. My diagnostic was a 144 for some perspective here. For anyone that is currently struggling with LG - trust the process. Keep grinding and you will see the results.

Back to the books!

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I'm having a hard time seeing how reviewing (or BRing) RC questions (e.g., by watching JY's videos) helps you do better on future RC. I feel like doing well on RC is largely passage-driven (at least for me), so correcting my answers on one passage probably will not translate into getting more questions right on future passages. What are some RC skills that reviewing RC questions/BR-ing could allow you to work on that could help with future RC questions?

I took the first PT after finishing the CC and while my timed score hasn't changed that much my BR score has sky-rocketed.

Timed: 161 (diagnostic 159)

BR: 170 (diagnostic 164, thanks 7Sage!)

Honestly, this PT felt very disorganized and I felt extremely clumsy through the whole thing. I just felt awkward and not smooth since I haven't taken PT's in over 4 months (this is my second time taking the LSAT). So I was extremely happy with my score of 161 and even more happy/surprised with my BR of 170.

I was wondering where I should go from here? I watched the post CC webinar and was wondering if I should continue to drill, etc. with phase 1 for awhile just to see where my BR score goes and to feel more comfortable or if I should move onto phase 2 with trying to get my timed score to match my BR score? Any tips would be appreciated!

I should note that I honestly don't really have a target score at this point. I would love the very least a 166/167 because I never thought it'd be possible for be to get a 170 but that might change now!

Thanks!

Hi everyone,

I am currently registered for the June 2019 LSAT but with the exam date approaching, I have realized that my goal of improving 20 points (at least) from my diagnostic of 145 is unrealistic. I will be able to study full time starting next week (35-40hrs/week) and I am wondering if anyone has made a 20 point improvement from their diagnostic in 3 months? I will have around 3 months to study for the LSAT in I change to the July date, is my goal realistic? What about the June date? Also just provide you a little context, I am not going to have any other commitments in the next few months but to study for the LSAT and I would need 166+ (168 to be guaranteed a spot at my dream school).

Also, how helpful have the PT video explanations have been in your LSAT study. I have all the PTs from a different course which did not go as planned, and I am wondering if the 7 sage starter package is sufficient? I am just planning to use the core lessons to build a stronger foundation.

Also how does one make sure they do not burn out for studying over 3 months?

Thank you so much!!

Help! Seat deposits are due in 4 days and I am at a lost. I have narrowed it down to two schools, but am having trouble deciding where to go. I could use some input or advice.

School 1:

Full Ride, but in a not-so-fun location. Have a two year option available, but it isn't guaranteed. It has a good program for what I want to do, and is regionally close to where I want to practice. It starts in August which would give me more time to save up before matriculation, but assuming I am able to complete the two year track, I would be finishing up school and studying for the July bar at the same time.

School 2:

Great scholarship, but with inflation would put me 20-30K in the hole. It is in a much better location fun wise, with plenty to offer recreationally. It is not regionally close to where I would like to practice. Has a two year program that is guaranteed. It starts in May which would put me in debt that much faster. However, I would finish in May and have those free months to focus exclusively on the July bar and maybe do an internship.

Both schools are just about equal in ranking, bar passage rates, and employment. Given my two year track, I don't know if having fun options is as big a deal if I am studying 24/7.

Where should I go!? Any and all input is appreciated. Thank you in advance!

I am having a hard time with newer RCs. With older ones (( PT60), I can often find a clearer correspondence between a correct answer and the supporting lines. With newer RC passages, the Answer choices really stumped me. There seems no correct answers! Because I cannot find A correct answer, I often struggle with one question for a long time and had to rush the rest of questions/passages.(/p)

Any tips?

A related question is that I see a couple of people mentioned fool-proof RCs. Fool-proofing method for LG worked really well for me, so I am thinking to try out this method for RC. Did it work for you, especially with newer RCs? Thanks.

I've gone through PowerScore LG and LR Bibles and have completed about 15-20 PTs in the last 4 months that I've been studying. I'll be taking the July 15 LSAT and if I don't get a 165+ (My goal Score) then I'll be taking the September or October LSAT as well. My scores averages are 19/25 LR sections, 17/23 LG sections and 17/27 RC sections. so I'm currently PTing around a 156.

I have just started the CC for 7sage and I also have access to LSAT Engine. I can dedicate about 20-30 hr/week to cc/pting/drilling. What's the best way to spend my time before and after the July 15 test with my resources?

There are no video explanations for this PT ): I got this correct originally and then in BR changed my answer to E. Can anyone explain why C is correct? I can't seem to find the rationale I used last weekend to pick it.

Thanks in advance!

Hey, Sagers! I tend to struggle in the early stages of section 1 of any PT, regardless of what it is. Who has a warm-up strategy for practice, and, most importantly for Test Day? When I took the test in November I was woefully unprepared in terms of warm-up. I reviewed a test the night before (BAD), and in the morning I actually sat in the waiting area being stumped by a nearly impossible game I had never seen before. I don't recommend that. I've heard that having a small pack of easy LR ?s and a game you HAVE done before and feel good about is a plan. I've also heard that people use the question bank feature on here to especially select easy questions and print them out all together in the same little packet. When someone who's hip to this has time, could you pretty please lay it out a plan for me? I want to have a cool warm-up packet, the coolest one ever, ready for my successful second go on June 3. THANK YOU in advance.

I'm looking for a study buddy for accountability and BR. Currently, I'm finishing up the CC and plan on moving on to the PT's.

My diagnostic score was a 156, and my target is 173; the plan is to take take the LSAT sometime in the fall or winter of 2019/2020. I'm pretty much studying full-time, so my study schedule is pretty flexible. I've been studying for a while now and am almost ready to start focusing almost exclusively on PT's.

I've found that going through the reasoning of a LG or a LR passage and orally making the inferences with another person is quite helpful -- the same might be for you. Just the fact that you aren't stuck in your thoughts is crucial.

Let me if you are interested, and we can see if we work well together.

Hey gang!

My LOCI is clocking in at about 550 words. It's one page, with 8 inch margins, single spaced (spaces between paragraphs). Is this too long? I'm trying to be as specific as possible and name what I would do as a student: specific orgs, clubs, clinics, what I uniquely offer the school, etc. I also visited the school (tour, sat with adcomm, and saw a class) so I reflect on that a bit. What do you think? Are there rules in this? Thanks!

Hi everyone,

First, a PSA: several major independent scholarships have fast-approaching deadlines:

Due April 14, 2019

Due April 15, 2019

Due May 1, 2019

Due May 15, 2019

Due May 28, 2019

You can find a longer list of independent scholarships and a lot of information about financial aid in our updated lesson on scholarships:

https://classic.7sage.com/admissions/lesson/law-school-financial-aid/

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Hi Everyone,

I've been going back to the core curriculum to brush up on a few things, and I realized that I rely more on what JY calls the "carve-out" method of dealing with embedded conditionals rather than the translation. (It just feels more intuitive for me.) But as I was trying to match up my "carve-out" understanding with the translations JY does, I ended up with a few questions.

Here's the link to the CC lesson with the example I'm considering: https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/mastery-embedded-conditional/

"If the seeds are planted in the winter, then flowers will not blossom unless fertilizer is applied."

JY draws these two statements using the "and" translation:

SPW and FB -> FA

SPW and /FA -> /FB

So I like to think about this by relying heavily on the "unless" factor at the end:

My question is, aren't JY's statements (and my own) supposed to be biconditionals? For example:

So together, FA (-) (SPW ->FB)

Because right now, in JY's statements, if I know fertilizer is applied (FA), nothing happens. If I plug in FA, then it fulfills the necessary for the first translation and fails the sufficient for the second. But isn't it true that if FA, then it must be true that if seeds are planted in the winter, that the flowers will blossom?