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On Wednesday, June 26, at 9:00 PM ET, I'll host a webinar with Rob Schwartz, the Assistant Dean of Admissions at UCLA Law. Dean Schwartz will give us a short presentation on UCLA Law, and then I'll ask him some of the questions you're dying to know:

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I am registered for the July 15th exam and if I choose to cancel (aftere registering for the September exam) could I get a refund check for the September exam after my September score has been reported? I know freebie takes start in October but was wondering if this was also an option.

Hi everyone.

The only games that really give me trouble when I take PT's are those categorized as "miscellaneous." I pretty much resort to coming at them with little to no visual representation, and letting the rules guide me to as many answers as I can get. It usually results in me missing most of the questions, and makes me loose about 5-6 questions on LG where in the other games I get either -0 or -1. I'm sure I am not the only one who has been here. Does anyone have advice on how to get better at miscellaneous game types?

I heard that people who take the lsat abroad take a different test than people who take it in the U.S. I don't have that many fresh lsat tests remaining and I don't want to retake tests that I have already done so I was wondering if there is a way for me to obtain the lsat tests that they use in Asia or Europe?

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Hello all,

Anyone here planning to take the test in Singapore on Oct 13? Am thinking of doing so myself and would love to study together if you are in Singapore!

Am I missing something here?

Hey Guys,

Is it possible to mess up one rule in a sequencing game, but go through all the questions without even realizing it???

Why I ask this is because: I was doing PT 43 S4 Game 2, and i messed up the last rule where VZ row closer than O. Instead I diagrammed as VL row closer than O.

The questions never made me realize I committed this fatal error, until question 12 (the very last question of the game) where i realized my big mess up.

Now the question is, is it possible that maybe in a future LG, I will just never realize i diagrammed one rule incorrectly and get alllllll the questions wrong in a simple sequencing game???

Does anyone have recommendations for supplemental materials in reviewing valid and invalid argument forms?

I started the sufficient lesson today however I realized I need to go back and review the prior lessons. I did not locate a 7sage webinar on validity, any suggestions in addition to reviewing the valid and invalid lessons?

I will be taking the November LSAT. Can I apply to schools before this once the applications are out? Or do I have to wait until I actually sit for the exam? Thanks!

Im just having a bit of a hard time wrapping my head around how to best prepare for those unusual games like the virus game etc.

Any tips?

Dear 7Sage community,

As my account for the past 1.5 years is about to expire in an hour, I just want to say thank you for all the tips, encouragement, and wisdom. I applied last year, and got into a school in the mid 60's with no scholarship. This year I am going to a top 25 school with very, very close to a full ride. Wow what a difference applying earlier, with a much better score, and more fully flushed out apps does (basically a different applicant).

I could write all day about this. I kind of want to because I have learned so much in this journey that I would love to hand over this highly niched knowledge. But I will say this:

Just because you are a good person doesn't mean you are entitled to a good score. It must be earned. And in many people's cases, it took years. Some of my heroes on this website battled for 2 plus years to get their score, but it paid off BIG. I studied for almost a year and it paid off BIG for me. I was rejected from the school I will attend last year and this year they are rolling out the red carpet.

Your stories matter. Your humanity matters. But numbers matter most. If schools were to let in every great person or story, numbers at most schools would be down. So take the numbers component seriously. And if you have great essays or stories, that will definitely help. But get those numbers! I promise you, they are not playing around.

Do everything JY says. Obviously test what he says out. But he doesn't say things randomly with no thought (or at least not when it comes to the LSAT).

Take practice tests with 5 (or I recommend 6 sections). It drives me crazy when people are willing to do everything under the sun to prepare, but when it comes to PT, they take 4 sections. Then people say "the energy of test day will give you that extra boost." Ok, maybe it does. But aren't we trying to simulate test conditions as best as possibly. 5 sections are different than 4. And practice with 5 then get the additional "energy boost." I promise you, it helped me out.

The main difference between a 167 and a 172 is most likely test taking strategy. Of course better fundamentals helps, but at this point it's strategy.

Practice reading comprehension. Most people believe this is the hardest section to improve. That is because most people don't like to practice this section. LR is fun and you can do you a few questions at a time. I found LG fun. I hated RC, practiced it the least, and improved upon it the least. Practice it!

Don't be afraid to postpone a year. It was one of the most painful decisions of my life. It doesn't matter where you are in your life. But it was one of the best decisions I have ever made.

Sorry, but if you are just starting you LSAT prep, it's probably best to postpone a year. By the time you take your first real test, you will most likely realize you can do waaaaay better and it's too late (plus you have to start writing essays). Don't be afraid to wait a year (please refer to #7).

It's important to be able to break this test down. So taking your first PT in month 3 then retaking at month 5 looks very different than taking your first test in month 5. As you get close to test day, getting results are more important. So settling for cheap tricks versus really digging deep happens. So you can end up taking 3 tests in 6 months and very really studied in depth. Then you can become burned out after test 3 and then the real pressure happens. Wow, I have studied for 6 months and keep not improving. Is this for me? If i take it again I REALLY must do well! Don't do this to yourself. If after the second take you don't see big gains, take a year off and really go deep.

Get a tutor. Take all the pain and suffering that they had to go through and learn from it.

You don't only need big chunks of time to study. 20 mins here and there (in addition to the necessary big chunks of time) can really help and add up.

This test is a snapshot of where you on a highly specific set of skills right now only. It doesn't define you. But as you study for this test one can reduce their value to how well they did on their most recent PT. Don't get to high or too low on this. Study. Learn. And move on.

There are a million more things to say but I can't think of them. But for those in the deep dark jungle of LSAT study, I would come across the occasional 7Sage "Thank you" message and wondered if I were every going to be able to write one. I am. Thank you 7Sage! And best of luck to all of you who are studying! It is worth it. It pays off. It might take a little more time than you thought, but have faith!

I've always assumed that the actual application process itself isn't all that bad. But for time management purposes I need to know what I should expect. I already have LORs, my transcript, and my personal statement finished. How long does the rest of it all take? If you're blanketing the t-14 for example, wouldn't most of the applications be roughly the similar other than why X essays?

For those of you preparing to apply during the upcoming application cycle, you might be wondering about LSAC and the services they provide. This post will explain the difference between the LSAC Credential Assembly Service (CAS) and the LSAC Candidate Referral Service (CRS).

Information about the CAS can be found at https://www.lsac.org/applying-law-school/jd-application-process/credential-assembly-service-cas. The CAS Report is an electronic file with the candidate’s academic summary (GPAs, LSAT scores), LSAT essays, LORs, and any other application documents. Once you as the candidate provide one set of application documents to LSAC, they will assemble the information in the CAS Report and distribute them to your selected law schools. The CAS Report is sent electronically to the law schools you select and appears in their admissions database as a single PDF file. Candidates must purchase this service. You pay for each report that is sent to a law school.

The CRS is the way for law schools to find the prospective students they want: https://www.lsac.org/choosing-law-school/candidate-referral-service. The most common use of the CRS is for the school to get a list of registered candidates with attractive LSAT scores and send them fee waivers. Fee waivers waive the school’s application fee (the school’s administrative cost of processing an electronic application, often $50-100). This doesn’t however waive the cost of sending a CAS report to the law school. Schools may also do geographic searches to invite prospective candidates in the local area to prospective student open houses and programming events at the school. If a school wants to promote specific programming in, say, corporate law, they could do a search for candidates who indicate in the CRS that they are interested in corporate law. Candidates have a choice in opting in or out of this service. Opt in and you might get hit by waves of emails. This might be annoying. However, each point of outreach by a law school is a great opportunity for you the candidate to respond by connecting to someone in their admissions office (by email or phone or in person) and showing yourself to be a strong candidate: https://classic.7sage.com/admissions/lesson/what-questions-should-you-ask-a-law-school-admissions-officer/.

I just started my 7Sage journey and I’ve been going though the CC, but when it comes to taking the June 2007 diagnostic, I get so much anxiety and I keep putting it off and moving onto the other lessons. I’ve taken diagnostics in the past when I used to self-study and was in other prep courses, but they’ve always been so low that I always get discouraged (which is why I’ve been too nervous to take it this time around).

Am I potentially hurting my chances of getting a high LSAT score by not taking a diagnostic before I start learning and doing problem sets? If so, how can I overcome this anxiety?

I seem to have a difficult time telling apart (or recognizing ) grouping games w/ a chart, regular grouping games, and grouping games with sub-catagories. Is there anything in the questions that makes know which game is which? or does it just come from expierence?

Hi everyone.

I have just started on my PT's/blind review after completing the CC for the past 5 months, and have a significant gap between my actual scores (around 150) to my BR (high 160's). I miss about a game a test which I know will come with JY's fool proof method, and my RC has greatly improved with the full tests I take (but still needs work). My main question is: will the gap in my LR close overtime with more BR and tests taken? In my LR sections I miss around 7-12 on the actual test and blind review from -2 to -4.

Any help would be great, especially from those who started off with low actual scores and high BR scores.

I was wondering which would be the better route after finishing my CC on 7sage. I've been loving the CC so far and I am thinking ahead to what I am going to use in conjuncture with 7sage. I heard that the trainer's LG sections is not so great, so I was wondering if I should use manhattan prep's LR and RC books to go along with the CC, or go with the Lsat Trainer anyway?

hi all, i am consistently taking over 35 minutes to complete LR sections (im talking 20-25 minutes over). i fluctuate between -3 and -5 but it takes me so long. Im worried if i rush through in the 35 mins ill do a lot worse. Any suggestions?

I took my very first diagnostic test back in Feb 2019 and scored 140. Took an in person class, but didn't really study much because I'm working full time as well. That ended in March, and after that, just been studying-ish by doing drills, but didn't really fully internalize and understand my mistakes.

I just started the 7sage CC last Sunday, and took the June 2007 diagnostic and scored 146 and BR is 154, not that much a difference which really sucks :(. I guess the 6 points improvement from my first diagnostic is good, but I was hoping to break 150 this time, though realistically I haven't been studying the right way or putting dedicated hours, so maaaybe 150 was a little to much to ask lol. I just started aggressively studying last Monday. I'm registered for the July test (first time ever), and July is just my test run to get myself familiar with the test environment and everything. I'm betting on the October 2019 to be my actual one.

I'm just thinking of following the CC, but I'm also thinking of taking 1 PT every week to track my progress. is that a good idea to do while I'm still doing the CC?

My goal is 165-170 by the time I write my October, and I have requested 3 months off (hopefully it'll get approved!!) to study before the October write. For those of you who started from a lower score and reached your goal, any advice?? feeling a litttle discourage tbh. I tend to set high standards for myself, and want to see improve ASAP. Ahhhh, honestly any advice would help!!!

Hey guys,

This might be a dumb question and I don't know if anyone would know for sure I guess... but this

would be the exact model the LSAC will be using for the exam, correct?

And did anyone else buy the tablet to simulate the test? Was it worth it? And did you get the keyboard as well or you only need the tablet and pen.. And did you get the one with the larger storage or smaller if you're only using it for test prep?

Thanks a bunch guys!

I will try to make this long story short. My ex-girlfriend who was supposed to graduate this summer from GW Business School had to take one more math requirement to graduate- an entry level business math course. She felt she wouldn’t have time to do it so she offered to pay me $200 to take the class. I felt very uncomfortable about this particularly given it seemed like she was just trying to blow off her work and take advantage of me. I offered to “help” in the class but she went off on me saying it’s either take the class for her or don’t help. Now, this girl is a URM and has had a lot of life problems. I met her my first semester at GW and never really was attracted to her. A lot of students thought she was my GF just because we come from a similar ethnic background and walk around together a lot. Anyways, I am really passionate about helping people so I decided to play into it a little bit (people thinking she’s my GF) and help this girl out a lot during my time at GW. But this last proposition is really where I’ve drawn the line. For example, she wants to go to UChicago for an MBA but has less than 2.5 at GW Business, can’t handle or even bothers to take the GMAT/GRE seriously let alone an intro business math course, and has no relevant internship experience or even an understanding of MBA admissions. It’s just like if you’re pressuring someone else to cheat and take a class for you that’s 1). An intro level business math class 2). A class you should easily know how to do yourself if you want to go to UChicago Booth 3). A class that you need to take to graduate then you’ve totally got another thing coming to you. And another thing is that during my business policy final she sat next to me and just started copying off my final which could have gotten me in a lot of trouble. That someone would just start cheating off you like that really concerns me. Am I being too harsh or was I right to cut this person out of my life? I said no and refused to help her any more and now she blames me for not being able to graduate. I’ve started seeing a new girl who I’m helping get started with LSAT prep and I feel a lot happier with her. It’s worth mentioning that I’m actually attracted to this new girl and don’t feel like I’m being used or taking advantage of. Anyways, I just want to get this episode out of my head. It’s just like I really wanted to help you but you can’t just take advantage of people like that. I want move on and find someone who I can eventually settle down with.

Okay, I'm a bit confused on how to BR.

Do I go through a timed PT/Section, transfer my answers to different sheet/7sage, and then go back and go over my pt once again un-timed?

will start the RC section soon. I really appreciate it if you guys can give me advice on how to carry on from here. Once I finish the LG section I will start fullproofing the bundle while going over the RC CC. I will watch the webinar on what to do after I finish but I could use some strategies. (When to take timed sections?) ( when and how many times to take full PTs) So basically for my situation which im sure many of you have been through whats the best way to go?

I’ve been taking caffeine pill instead of drinking coffee, which helped me tremendously with my bladder,

But now I fall asleep right after taking the pill. Is this normal? Has anyone experienced this?

I feel very alert after the 30 min nap, but now I’m confused if it’s the pill that’s working or just nap...