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Hi all,

Finished fool proofing LG (highly recommend to those that still haven’t done so). Man that helped!

I’ve posted this question before, but got some mixed answers.

I want to make sure that I am going about this the correct way before settling down to grind again.

For fool proofing logical reasoning sections would I go about it in a similar way to the “Pacifico method” that worked so well for me in LG?

Meaning print off some more recent, but not too recent logical reasoning sections and do one section timed, then review/ BR same day after a break, repeat the section timed the next day and review again, and then review the following week?

Interested to see if others had a better way of increasing their score! Any tips help.

Thank you!

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Can someone please explain the new format of question analysis at the bottom of each video? Why would a LR question has a Passage/Game difficulty associated with it? If I remember correctly, it used to be blank or Non applicable. Is it to indicate the difficulty level of that section or the whole test? I’m confused.

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So I got a decent score on my November 2018 LSAT but wanted to score higher, because, well, money. I'm ready to apply to a school (UConn) and am unsure if I should wait for my January scores to come back or not. I remember feeling like I did alright on the LR and RC sections, but that LG section just about killed me. I worry that if I wait, my score will not actually be higher and then I've hurt my "earlier" application chances (and yes, I know it's getting later in the cycle).

Thoughts??

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    I had an interview at WashU almost a month ago and still havent heard back. At the time I had just gradauted in December and didnt really have plan for what I was going to do until law school in the Fall. Being that I havent heard back yet, should I send a little update as well as my continued interest or just let it ride and wait it out?

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    I have noticed that with my last few PrepTests, my Blind Review scores have been within the range of my goal score. Whenever I Blind Review, I notice that I made little mistakes with my actual score that I would not have made if I had had more time to decipher what the question was asking. Should I start spending more time studying individual sections with proper time constraints? Or if I focus on gaining an even stronger mastery of the concepts (different LR question types, etc.), will adaptation to time constraints eventually follow?

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    I'm finding that a lot of the time, I have to read the stimulus twice before I fully comprehend what has been written, no matter how slowly I read the first time. It's adding at least another 30 seconds to my answering time. Does anyone have any tips on how to improve my comprehension?

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    So i've been studying for the lsat on and off for almost a year now.

    I've taken the lsat 3 times already, and I'm scheduled to take it again in June. This one will be my absolute last try!

    My question is, what study method will work best for my situation?

    I am familiar with all the core concepts and i've been through the CC while studying for my previous lsat.

    I have the books with all the previous lsats and the powerscore booka as well.

    Should i purchase 7sage membership again? Should i learn my core concepts again? Or just do a lot of practice and BR until June?

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    Hi all, just want to thank this community for all the tips and tricks and the positive environment you all provided. I started studying in January 2019, took the Feb 2019 LSAT, began studying again in May 2019, and then took the July LSAT and sent in applications in October. For study materials, I only used the free 7Sage offerings, which made a HUGE difference, and got hold of the PTs. Now my cycle is (almost) over--- I scored a 172 and got into my top school. I spent SO much time trawling this site for tips and advice, and I'm hoping to give back by sharing everything that worked for me in one post. (Also, I got the idea from @terrynicholasj and his great post!)

  • My master spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yK-ux9iLzRF8c4zfJieZC7cXNuzPaAWEJtwT6BWVzxA/edit#gid=0 was based off of @Pacifico Foolproof LG attack strategy. I would highlight games to remind me to return to them on set dates and used the far right tracker to black out games I'd worked on. Also, I foolproofed every game I encountered that I could not get -0 or within time on, including those during PTs. I'd squeeze in a game or two whenever I had the time, and they eventually added up to serious improvement.

  • Writing out RC & LR explanations: There's sheets in my tracker for this. I would write out detailed explanations for every single RC and LR question I got wrong, both explaining why the correct answer was correct but also ruling out all the wrong answers. Happy to give sample explanations if needed. This helped me to clarify the logic/thought process and provided excellent reading the night before the exam.

  • LR tips: Reading the stimulus (i.e. question prompt first) did MIRACLES for my score. The more I did this, the more I found myself able to even anticipate the correct answer before I'd read the multiple choice options. I also took photos of LR questions that stumped me, put them on my phone, categorized by type, and browsed them to practice the logic in my spare time. I also kept count of which types of LR questions were my kryptonite and grew to recognize them. When I encountered them on the test, I would write the question type there on the page (i.e. "Weak") signaling to my brain to pay extra attention to this question. When I did that, I all of a sudden would stop getting that question type wrong. In LR, I also aimed for the 20-for-20 rule (roughly), which is to get through 20 questions in the first 20 minutes.

  • Read widely to prepare for RC: I hated science passages, so I made a point of seeking out science longform articles all over the web, all the time, to read in my spare time. It reduced the fear I felt upon opening the test to a science passage and increased my familiarity with the lingo. But you can also do this with all kinds of articles! If you hate the literature articles, read literary criticism, etc. Reading the Atlantic, Longform.org, Longreads.com, and the New Yorker, etc regularly all kept my brain in constant reading mode and made attacking long passages less terrifying. Plus, sometimes passages would even crop up in the LSAT that I had already read about! Another good mindset is to try and enjoy the passages. I'd force myself to think, "Wow, this is really interesting," and in my free time I'd reminisce about my favorites. OK, I'm a nerd, but changing my mindset about RC actually allowed me to perform better in them.

  • Other RC tips: Also, when doing RC passages, I also added high level summaries on the side--literally one-word summaries next to each paragraph that read things like "hypothesis," "example 1," "conclusion." (You can also do this in your fun-time reading outlined in #4, since it's good to practice engaged reading!)

  • Practice anywhere and everywhere: On a train, on a plane, in a park... I did PTs and sections everywhere. Inuring myself to distractions was vital. And while I also practiced in a quiet, locked room, when distractions cropped up during the real thing, my prep was essential to giving me the psychological boost to ignore it. This also allowed me to get in as much time studying as I could, giving me 2 hours each day on the train to and from my full-time job.

  • BR'ing is real: I BR'd every LR and RC section I took, even when I did sections individually. I would return to every question I'd "starred" during the timed taking and try to think out the right answer without the time constraints. I logged the BR'd scores on my sheet as well. I swear this helped!

  • Avoid burnout and don't beat yourself up: There will be days when you're off, and your score drops on your PT/section/whatever. It happens. TO EVERYONE. Don't obsess. Whenever that happened to me, especially when I bombed a section, the next time I did that kind of section I would do it untimed, giving myself all the time in the world to look it over and relax, taking breaks and sometimes even doing only a page at a time. And usually, my score would bump back up to where it needed to be after that. I also learned that burnout is real, and a week off won't hurt you, but will do wonders for your mind.

  • Application process: Try to avoid too much forum-reading, as it can lead to insanity. Remember, you run your own race. For essays, I recommend include On Writing the College Application Essay by Harry Bauld. But I also truly believe that reading great non-application essays helped me with mine, and I would recommend anything in the yearly Best American Essays anthology, and essay collections from authors like E.B. White, Joan Didion, Jonathan Franzen, Zadie Smith, and other masters of the form who are brilliant at taking personal topics and spinning them into something profound and interesting. I'm no E.B. White, but reading their works gave me something to aspire to. I didn't use a consultant (although I hear they're great!) but I did have many trusted folks read my essays over and over and over again. And don't forget to back all your stuff up.

  • I love the quote, "Comparison is the thief of joy." Enjoy your success. Enjoy your progress. Take breaks. The LSAT takes dedication, but don't neglect your life in pursuit of a number. You're gonna do great.

    • Anyway, thank you again for your support and great tips. II really believe that 7sage, your tips, and practice helped me to improve and that I couldn't have done it without it. Take and use what you like, discard the rest. Anyway, you guys are great, your journey is your own, and I believe in you all! Happy to answer further questions.

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    Just finished the CC and currently I am studying full time. I've watched the post CC seminar and found it useful. I plan on Fps 4-5 LGs a day but not sure what to do with LR/RC. Should I be doing sections or drilling by types? If so how much is enough but not overdoing it? Thanks

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    So I finished the core curriculum and started taking practice tests a few months ago. I take a practice test every other day and review the test I took on my off days. I was told that the best way is just to practice by taking as many tests as possible and learning from them. I really want to complete at least 70 tests by the time I hit June (im at around 20) and so I feel very pressured to keep this routine. However i do see a downside of this method because I feel like I don't have much time to practice drills or foolproof logic games. When reviewing my PTs on my off days, I look at every question(even the ones I got right) which is why it takes me around 6-7 hrs. My scores fluctuate but its mostly been around 168 on PTs(14-32). I was just wondering if you guys think its more important to lay off taking tests and spend more time drilling games and certain question types or to keep on with this method?

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    Oh, also, there's an athlete who plays a horseback sport where you fight over a headless goat carcass and a man who sharpens a sickle next to Ben's head.

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    "But the material costs of hung juries do not warrant losing the benefit to society of the unanimous verdict."

    from the 1st RC passage of PT37

    Does this sentence mean, instances of hung juries do not necessarily mean that the unanimous verdict system has no benefit?

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    Hi everyone! I took a three courses for a summer program in an institution in Asia and got all B's. The letter grades were transferred to my home university's transcript, and the letter grades actually show up on my transcript. Will LSAC count these 3 B's when calculating my LSAC GPA? I read on the LSAC website that they don't count grades for courses taken for less than a full academic year, but is this true even for grades that directly show up on my UG transcript? Thank you for your help! Have a wonderful day :)

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    I'm gearing up to start incorporating old material into my prep. Since retake PT scores really can't tell you much, I was thinking about simply breaking down my old material by sections I struggled with in the past. For example, instead of retaking a whole PT, I'd take 4 LR sections I struggled with from various PTs and simply retake those. I'm thinking that would bring the most value out of old material.

    Anyone else do this? Or anyone think retaking full-length PTs is necessary if you're like me and still have about 10 fresh tests left.

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    Hello, I am starting my search for what schools I would like to apply to with a specialty in Criminal Law. I was wondering if anyone knew of a site or somewhere where I can get a list of schools across the country with Criminal Law.

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    I noticed that a lot of schools require only 1 or 2, but you can send up to 4. Do most people only send the required number?

    I am conflicted because I would like to send at least one academic one and one work related one. What have people done in similar situations?

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    Hey you guys, anyone wants to take LSAT in MARCH ?

    Let's study together

    Great, so nice to have so many people willing working together. I'm thinking to take 8 PTs together before the test. Since everyone has different study pace, some of you must have finished more PTs; Is 15-23 or 23-31 ok for you guys? When is the time convenient for you guys? Besides, every session will be in the format of online meeting through Skype or whatever. Any idea about good app for online meeting? Plus, if you guys are down to this plan, I will be the first one to hold the online study session, but you also have to take turns to host it :smiley:

    In conclusion, let us know which PTs you have not done, when you are available, your suggestions of studying group.

    Thank you guys; let's crush Lsat :wink:

    UPDATE

    Folks, thanks for your comments, since the latest ones are more similar to the real tests, we now decide first to take PT sets from 75 to 83. If you also want to review the other PTs in particular with group, please let us know, we may put it on agenda for Lsat in June.

    New PT SETS 75-83

    UPDATE2

    Folks, thanks Michael, we got our Whats up group, YAY:) and I will post all the infor you need either way https://chat.whatsapp.com/HEr9S37YrIFBZNN6w4pFpZ

    Since there are so many of you interested in this study group, we may decide to hold 2 sessions, one hosted by me through Skype, one by Michale

    let me know when is convenient for you

    UPDATE3

    There is a BR session hosted by Michael on Saturday at 3PM(ET) Feb 9th , join us :smiley:

    Blind Review Session PT 75

    When: February 9th 2019

    Time: 3PM ET (On Skype)

    Facilitator: Michael Cinco

    Join Skype Meeting:

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    1 281 588 4305

    Confrence ID: 9927878808

    Content

    LR 1

    Blind Review Difficult Questions. Come up with key take-aways for tackling similar problems in the future.

    45 Minutes

    LR 2

    Blind Review Difficult Questions. Come up with key take-aways for tackling similar problems in the future.

    45 Minutes

    LG

    Discuss optimal setups for individual games.

    45 Minutes

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