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Hi! I'm taking the LSAT tomorrow and would love a bit of last minute help on this one to boost my confidence.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-34-section-4-game-4/

In the explanation, JY explains that answer B is correct using a thought process I cannot seem to grasp despite the number of times I watch the video. if J is in, then P is in - no problem. but then to say that when J is in, O and N can also be in confuses me...I understand that looking left of J - taking the contrapositive - O and N are in. but in doing so, don't you have to leave J out since it requires the contrapositive of J to get O and N in? I must be missing something super basic here. please help :) Thanks!

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This has been something that works for me. In the past, I have found that when the timer calls out 5 minutes left, even if I only barely started on the last passage, I can usually finish the passage and questions before the time is up, and not notice a significant score decrease in those last passages. Taking this knowledge with me, I approached a whole section with this mentality, and was able to consistently finish before the 5 minutes warning, and having the time to go back to hard questions with a fresh eye helps tremendously, allowing me to digest all the information I previously read. This is similar to what I did when I conducted confidence drills, but this gives me a more tangible sense of urgency.

The hard part was not losing the sense of urgency. Usually, by the third passage, I start slowing down, and need to remind myself that I'm running out of time.

I would also say that this is not a technique that works for everyone, and is probably fairly advanced. You may have to first master the memory method or other fundamental techniques first before this can consistently be applied.

Hope this helps. Cheers~

PS: Just did the test, and can confirm, at least for myself, the "5 minutes remaining" strategy did wonders. It keeps the adrenaline pumping non-stop. I can't confirm that I did well, but I did finish every section before the 5 minutes call, and probably both logic game sections and an LR section with about 10 minutes left.

Hey everyone, hope everyone is either PTing to the stars or getting waterboarded with acceptance waves.

I just wanted to get some advice from the 7Sage family in regards to the near future (Saturday) and long term.

I am doing a dry run for the LSAT on Saturday (I have really bad test anxiety and thought it would be a good idea)

I started studying early Jan and cold tested with a diagnostic score of 150 on the June 2007 PT.

I took PT 16 today and went -12 LG, -9 -8 LR respectively and -4 RC for a score of 157.

Any advice for me to prepare for Jan LSAT and subsequently the March/June?

Thank y'all in advance!

📣Update: Unfortunately, our guest had to cancel. @"selene.steelman" and I will still have a conversation about letters of continuing interest and waitlist etiquette, and then we'll take questions. We'll still give away a free edit at the end. Sorry for the bait and switch!

Hi everyone,

On Wednesday, January 30 at 9 p.m. ET, I'll host a webinar with Julian Morales, Director of Admissions at Penn State Law. Julian will give us a five-minute presentation on Penn State, and then I'll ask him some of the questions you're dying to know:

You'll get a chance to ask your questions at the end.

:warning: You’ll have to register for this webinar in advance.

:cookie: After the webinar, we'll award one attendee a free Edit Once (see https://classic.7sage.com/admissions/enroll).

→ Please register for the webinar (Jan 30, 2018 @ 9:00 p.m. ET) here:

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After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the webinar.

Zoom might prompt you to download something before you can join the webinar, so I’d advise you to show up a bit early.

I hope to see you there!

Currently going through the CC and fool proofing the problem sets. I have done a decent job at diagramming but i am finishing the games at a slower rate. It is also taking me a while to make inferences for certain games. I'm guessing this is going to take a while? Lol

Anyone have advice or motivation for someone who is starting to doubt themselves and their reasoning as test day approaches?

Hey everyone,

First time poster - doing some last minute studying. I'm reviewing November's test but I don't see JY's explanations for the last passage. Do you know if this is available anywhere? In particular I'm stuck on questions #23 and #26. If someone could just explain the right answers to those 2 I'd really appreciate it. I really liked D for #23; and B for #26.

Thanks and all the best!

Hi everyone,

My account is about to expire in a week. I am still working on my apps though so I would still want to access the 7sage Admissions Course that I am currently using. When my account expires, will I still have access to @"David.Busis" 's Admissions Course?

Thanks!

If anyone would like to contribute last minute summaries and strategies for RC, LR, LG please feel free to post!

Example:

How to find the main point/main conclusion of the argument.

(If I'm wrong feel free to correct me and I will update it)

So, my Lsat is this Saturday and my buddy who is taking it with me found a pretty good article that will motivate us to keep chasing our dreams!

https://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/urbach-wiethe-disease-and-the-lsat/

Hello,

I am confused with the setup for this logic game. What would it look like?

There are exactly six computers - P, Q, R, S, T, and U - on a small network. Exactly one of those computers was infected by a virus from outside the network, and that virus was then transmitted between computers on the network. Each computer received the virus exactly once. The following pieces of information concerning the spread of the virus have been established:

-No computer transmitted the virus to more than two other computers on the network.

-S transmitted the virus to exactly one other computer on the network.

-The computer that transmitted the virus to R also transmitted it to S.

-Either R or T transmitted the virus to Q.

-Either T or U transmitted the virus to P.

I had a hard time with the questions because my setup was confusing me!! Thank you!! #help

YOOOO! I just wanted to ask a quick question about the must be true test for Necessary Assumption answer choices? could someone elaborate on that? Im confused with it. Specifically for the Rattlesnake question JY gives us in the lesson. The AC has to do with food which was never even mentioned in the premises/conclusion. How do we determine whether foreign information is relevant to the argument?

I was doing a bunch of research on this topic, but at the end of the day, I can't seem to really find the benefits of such programs. @oshun1 posted a discussion about JD-LLM in International Law. I'm curious about the concept of such a program, and don't see the point. For many schools, you can learn the exact same things, and can spend a semester abroad as a normal JD. The same goes for the other joint programs too. So, for those applying to joint-programs, can you please share what is the benefit of the JD-LLM, or other joint programs? Is it more prestigious during and after graduation? Does it allow for more opportunities and resources? Thank you.

Hello,

Background: I started studying with 7Sage the first week of November. I started at a 151 diagnostic. I have been studying full time since then and my average is now 168. I have not touched PTs 56-86 except for 67 and 68. Basically, I am back in school full time now working on my masters and am getting pretty tired of the LSAT. However, I want to keep my skills fresh for the March 30th administration. Frankly, I am aiming for 170. I finished with a 4.0 UGPA so I am trying to get into T10 schools. Thus, I am seeking opinions from anyone who might have been/is in in a similar situation. I am debating whether 1PT a week and drilling a few problem types is enough, or if I should be shooting for 2-3 PTs a week? To me, I get a lot more out of drilling the hardest question types of the problems I struggle with in comparison to taking full tests. Any advice is appreciated!

I am about 60% done with the CC. I plan to test Jun & July. LG is my weakest section however I fear that if I foolproof during the CC I will be stuck on the LG curriculum too long. I have already FP the first 3 PS for sequencing games.

I'm an American citizen but also French and I've lived for 6 years in China- studied there a year and a half and got my bachelor's in France. Also was homeschooled...

So first, how do law schools view foreign educated people?

I got 164 LSAT on 3rd try but my foreign degree from France is supposedly only B level even though they are thought of as good scores in France, and my addendum will be that I actually didn't even speak French when I started the bachelors lol.

I got my transcripts evaluation back only a month ago and it says the studies I've done are not equal to an American bachelor's degree... does that mean I should throw all I've done out the window? Will no top law schools accept that?

Also how much will my international/weird background help me out? or not??

I just don't know where I should apply realistically. I've heard law schools don't really care about foreign GPAs because they don't need to report them.

Thanks a lot for the help >.((/p)

Hey guys,

I’ve been drilling pretty hard for Saturday’s exam. I started feeling burnout on Monday and have been taking a break from the material. Would it still be a good idea to do a RC passage and logic game Friday? Is there anything I can do to shorten having burnout?

Hey 7sagers,

Just towards the latter end of completing the CC. However, doing the later LR problems for each question type – the really difficult questions are getting to me. The problem sets in which each question is scaled 5/5 (hardest) – I seem to do 2/5 on those. When reviewing over the problems, this what I notice:

I am sure others have probably gone through these sort of slumps with these difficult LR questions and– just wanted to know what are ways/techniques folks have overcome this? Is there a full-proof method for LR LOL? Do you re-do these problem sets afterwards?

Not sure what to do – b/c these type of problem sets are getting to me. For the other LR problem sets usually get perfect or at most one wrong.

Any help is much appreciated.

Here's what I hope will serve as a Chicken Soup for the Soul for those who have yet to hear back and are starting to doubt or even despair...

I received my acceptance to a T13 about two hours ago. I submitted my application on Halloween (or October 31st, for those who are not familiar with Halloween or its variations). I also applied to the same school in 2016; I submitted my application around late-November and was accepted on January 4th back then.

In other words, about 6-7 weeks elapsed before I heard back from the school during the 2016-2017 application cycle. This cycle? About 12 weeks. So, all other factors notwithstanding, it took me almost twice as long to hear back from the same school.

Now, I said "other factors notwithstanding." Chances are there was at least one factor (e.g. the fact that I'm a reapplicant) at play. Not to mention that this is just a datum out of tens of thousands. But I just wanted to tell y'all that things are still happening.

Also, I received my acceptance email around noon (PST) in 2017. This year, however, I received the email around 5 p.m. (also PST). So it seems that at least one school doesn't have a strict temporal guideline for sending acceptance emails.

So I used a test over the past week as practice sections / experimental sections for full PTs. Do I enter those technically completed tests into my 7Sage analytics? Or will that skew it all up? For example, I used PT 16 mostly as experimental sections for two PTs I did within a week, and then as timed sections otherwise for practice (also within the same week). Thanks!

So i study full time, my study schedule generated by 7sage is around 20h a week, some weeks may be more and some less. My question is if i mostly complete the 20 hours in 4 days (Thursday-Sunday) is that ok? or should i divide them equally to 7 days?

Hi,

I do not understand the answer and why it is correct. Can you please break AC sentence down completely?

Black Birds Nesting

I identified the question stem

(Weaken) the argument-->(Identify premise, conclusion, context if any)

This tells me that I need to destroy the support, lessen the support, attack the support that makes the conclusion true.

After reading the passage, I understood the causal relationship that is being purported.

Phenomenon Thing (1)Birds nesting for the first time, are less successful than (comparative statement) ("bigger stronger")older birds+(1yr olds)1st time ("smaller+weaker").

(This) (RF) (⬆︎ Phenomenon) can not be a mere matter of size and strength(meaning they cant attribute this⬆︎ success to just size and strength it must be something else... ) because Black birds are fully grown when they are leave the nest.

success≠(size + strength) (Author ruling out size and strength as reason for success)

Demands an explanation ( Blackbird Nesting Successful because _______________

Hypothesis They benefit by their nesting experience.

So black bird nesting experience (age?) is why they're successful.

Now I need to know why it is probably not their nesting experience, perhaps... ➔ (Alternate Cause/hypothesis/competing explanation/conclusion).

A. We know theyre successful, we don't know why... not interested in other birds +

B. Answer that was left, but dont understand it

C. 2nd time is more succ than first (Obvi) +

D. Author ruled out size and strength - in premise, not alt explanation to why success +

E. Honestly, proportion of All birds, is a rabbit hole, a dark one. ?

So B says per my limited breakdown.

The capacity (maximum amount?) of blackbirds to lay viable eggs increases (after this sentence is where I am at a wall) Berlin Wall

with each successive (same as successful?) trial (what?) during the 1st few years of reproduction (does this mean breeding, nesting, birth)?

Please Help

#Help.

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Hey 7sagers,

I am right now in the midst of doing practice LG sections from PT36 and up. I am timing up, meaning I trying to feel out how many minutes I am behind/ahead in LG sections. The LG commentary videos are very helpful. So far, these are my observations:

Before I start doing my timed LG sections (PTs 52 & above) – I really wanted to iron out my approach to this section that I can implement in my current phase. This is usually what I try to do:

1- Get the first game in the section done immediately, regardless of what it is.

2- Thereafter, scan the other games and look for the first question in each of them to see if a game board description is given in the ACs (example: sequencing games will have all the elements in a row in the AC). Based upon my game comfortability, I will choose the next game

3- If I see a MISC game type (which I am having difficulty in deciphering), I try my best to skip it and come back to it at the end.

I am not sure if this above approach of mine is a good idea. Just wanted to ask other 7sagers what’s their approach when doing LG? How do you think I can improve mine? How did you improve on the timing of the LG section?

Thanks for all your advice in advance. 😊

These may be questions that can only be answered after applying to schools. Will a 165 get me a full ride to a school with average LSAT scores of 155 in the 75th percentile? Will it get me ~50% of tuition? Or perhaps even less? How much are other factors like GPA weighed when schools are considering scholarships for students?