Hi! I am an international student who studied in a liberal arts college in the states and had a cumulative gpa of 3.41.

Although my cumulative gpa is low, a closer look would reveal a significant and consistent upward trend in my grades. Specifically, it went like 2.98, 3.23, 3.88, and 3.75 for my four years (my major gpa was 3.7 in political science), and the courses I took increased in difficulties as I progressed (especially the last two years,where I took high level political science and economic classes). I had been educated in a drastically different country and English was my second language when I got into college, and adjusting to that new environment was definitely a challenge.

I was wondering how strong a case I can make, given these facts, and how much would it matter for T14 law schools when they look at my gpa.

Thanks in advance!

TC

So, I was reviewing my application form. I was pressing buttons to see how to use one of my LSAC CAS Report waivers and I used ended up submitting the app which I didn't think was possible since I did not have a LSAT score. So, does this negatively effect me? Do I need to resubmit the app in December when I get my November score back?

I created this thread so that those taking the test in Asia, Australia and New Zealand can discuss the test! (Sorry, I should have made this before the test in Europe, Middle East, and Africa :sweat:)

Test Dates:

Score Release: Wednesday, October 31, 2018

Rules:

✅ Asking questions like “Was the LG with "flowers" experimental?” is okay.

❌ Don't mention specifics like "the 3rd LG was sequencing."

Please mention the region you took the test in (“I took it in Asia”).

Hi Im korean and I took October test in korea.

It was a terrible day for me. I didn't do very well on virtually all sections and expecting lower score than my previous test in July.

So heres what happened.

When the time for section 5 was about to be finished I found that one of my answers in section 2 of the scranton was not fully erased. So I erased the mark fully and in the process of doing so I erased part of my answers and blackened them .

The proctor saw it and told me it was a violation as I "worked" on different section and gave me a gold slip saying 'I marked on one question in section 2.'

In doing so I did not turn back the pages to section 2 or anything of that sort but just erased the incomplete marks and blackened the answer that was recorded so as to avoid the technical difficulties because of the machine's misreading my answer.

From my search I found out yellow slip is a deal breaker and considered as a serious offense. But i feel like erasing the incomplete marks as a 'violation' that wil be on my record permanently seems rather disproportionately harsh

The proctor did not deny he didnt see that I turned back to different section but merely saw me marking on different section. The whole incident destroyed my day and the prospect that this would go in my permanent recors is disheartening. I want to make my case to LSAC though it would be very difficult to overturn the case in my favor.

Anybody had similar experience? I really beed some help on how to deal with this entire mess.

Is it a bad idea to use tests prior to 34 for practice? Clearly, the LSAT has evolved quite a bit. However, I venture to guess that there is still a lot to be gained from earlier tests, even outside of LG.

Hey ya'll --

About 4 years ago I participated in a peaceful, organized protest that involved a sit-in. I was arrested for something like "blocking passage" (I think in DC it might be called "Crowding, obstructing, or incommoding"). Basically, I was taken to a processing center with the other protestors, paid a nominal fee (something like $75-$100) and went on my merry way. All of this was planned--and I had gone to a session on peaceful civil disobedience beforehand / knew that the arrest would take place.

That said, I'm looking for advice discussing this on the character and fitness portions of applications. Are any of ya'll going to have to disclose something similar? And does anyone have any insight into how admissions committees view these types of things?

Also, is anyone going to be listing traffic incidents on their apps? (Ex., a ticket for a red light).

Many things to anyone that can respond --

Kyle

Does someone know where to find September 2018 LSAT ?

For those who received accommodations for additional time, how are you studying for it? With work, it's nearly impossible to fit an entire full length exam in. So I'm basically doing a section a day and reviewing it. However, I fear I'm not taking into account how draining the duration of the exam may be. How can I better prepare for this? Any advice is welcomed, thanks!

Hey 7-Sagers! I'm applying to law schools and am hoping to land somewhere in the T-14. I have a 3.87 LSAC GPA and 163 LSAT score as a Hispanic URM (the LSAT has been a tough journey for me lol). I also feel like I have a strong PS/DS and resume. Although I'm below some of the T-14's medians, do I still have a shot at the T-14s? Should I wait until next cycle and try to bump that LSAT up? Thanks for any advice!

I'm considering applying next year but my teachers are already on their way sending the letters of recommendation to LSAC. So... would law schools dislike letters written the year before?

Hi! I'm trying to break a 170 for the November exam, but am currently stuck in the mid-160s. The November test will be my last chance at applying this cycle. I am currently a college senior and definitely planning on taking a year to work, whether I apply this cycle or next. What are the benefits of applying to law school this cycle and deferring for one year versus taking the LSAT at a later date (maybe January or later) and applying next cycle?

All,

Quick question about the test proctor available through the 7Sage app.

I have “real time” set to 33 mins but the app’s analog clock runs until from 0-35 mins. Is the clock sped up to make it “really” 33 mins or am I just taking a 35 min section?

Hi. I'm an international and I took the October test in Asia today.

Score cancellation was never an option, until this afternoon after I stepped out of the testing room feeling absolutely defeated.

I took my first LSAT in June after 3 months of study and got 161. From then on I drilled through most of the PTs except for the very recent ones (PT 80 onward), scoring in the range of 162-169. I felt better prepared and so decided to retake this month.

The exam was a lot more challenging than I expected, definitely so compared to the recent PTs I've been practicing with. I didn't make any Scantron mistakes, finished every section in time and bubbled in all the answers. But of course, having finished every section in time doesn't mean that I nailed each of them. I am pretty convinced that I bombed an LR section, for which I circled around 7 questions and had to take a wild guess on 2-3 of them. LG has always been my strong suit, but today I got stuck with a grouping question and had to guess 3 questions. As for RC, I don't feel so confident either - don't think I ruined it but I definitely could've done better.

My target score is 166+. It was my plan to apply this cycle, but I can wait a year and apply next cycle if I must.

I'm considering cancelling my score because I heard that law schools tend to view multiple scores negatively. I would wait for the results if it was my first go at LSAT, but seeing that this is my 2nd test I can't afford to take chances. Trying to gauge all the possibilities before I make a big decision.

So, here are some questions I wanted to ask:

Please excuse the poor writing. I would appreciate honest opinions.

Thanks.

As of now I am only on section Logical Reasoning section ( Flaw-Descriptive Weakening Questions). Three sections away from just starting the logical games section and my test date is on Nov 17. I studied using the LSAT Trainer for 3 months before but bought the full 7sage study package about 3 months ago and I feel like I should just end studying logical reasoning and start logical games because I’m running out of time and haven’t had much time to do practice test. Any advice because at this rate maybe if I study like crazy I’ll finish the program with maybe one practice test done before me test date. The problem was I lost motivation for about 2 weeks and never thought about how that would throw off my study schedule.

Hi everyone,

Is there anyone out there who primarily practiced with 4 section PTs, took the actual LSAT, and wished they had practiced with 5 sections? In other words, did taking the actual lsat throw anyone off due to it containing an extra section?

I know in the course J.Y. says something about 4 section tests being sufficient and that the adrenaline of test day will help you get through 5 sections. Can anyone confirm this through experience? Of course it will be different for each person. I don’t want to canabalize a fresh PT just to simulate 5 sections, but think it may be in my best interest. Maybe a half and half approach would be smart?

Hello!

I hope your studying is going well. I have taken 5 PTs post CC and have not been able to get my actual score up to my BR score. My actual score is usually in the low to mid 160s, but my BR is usually between 170 and 175. I am taking the November test and was wondering if you guys had any tips for getting the score closer.

Hi everyone,

I'm having trouble with question 9. How can the answer "B?"

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Hi again everyone,

So according to the Law School Predictor tool on here, I have a 77% chance to one of my target schools, Texas Tech if I were to submit my app in October.

Stats: URM/GPA: 3.39/ LSAT: 144, 147, and recently 150 for the Sept. exam

I am also registered for the November exam, however I think realistically i'd only be able to raise my score another 2-3 points...shooting for 5 though :p

Should I just submit my application to this school already, or should I just take a gamble and wait/hope for a better score? I'm really concerned because my chances drop to 68% in December (when I assume scores come out and I'd submit my app) if I stay with the same score or possibly lower the score :o

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks a bunch!

My graduating GPA is on the lower side, and I don't believe it's representative of my ability to succeed in law school but wanted to see how others read my explanation in terms of whether it would make for a productive addendum or not.

I started undergrad as a dual degree student pursuing piano performance and financial math, with music being my primary focus. I had a severe injury (from bad posture and over-practicing) which resulted in eight months off piano entirely. As someone who had envisioned a career as a performer since around 11, it had consequences on my mental health --- not to mention I had a lot more time on my hands to think about what it was that I really wanted to pursue. This was all in the first two years of undergrad and my GPA was low and unstable during this time.

My third year, I switched to Sociology and Philosophy, and it proved to be a fitting switch. I maintained a 4.0 while taking graduate-level courses, writing an honors thesis, and working 3 research jobs on top of a full course load (5-6 upper level courses). I feel that my physical injury and "wrong major" story go hand in hand because the injury gave me a chance to switch into something that I was better at. Does a GPA addendum seem appropriate given these circumstances? I'm very wary about my addendum coming across as an excuse or an attempt to justify my sub par grades. Any advice/thoughts would be appreciated! Thanks in advance.

Hi all,

When should we look at the context of a stimulus when considering an answer choice. After CC, I was under the impression that we should always disregard context; however, a lot of correct answer choices take context into account. For example in PT 72 S2 Q4, the correct answer is A, and the subject matter of A falls within the context, so I immediately crossed that answer out.

Is there a particular rule to follow in regards to context and when to disregard?

Thanks in advance!

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-72-section-2-question-24/

I currently have a score on file (my score was a 168) - am wondering if I should go ahead and submit my apps or wait until the november test? hoping to break 170

Every 10 or so PTs I just get slapped with a 10 or even 15 points below average score. Seriously. Does this happen to anyone else? I don't even really know how it happens, maybe a confluences of bad circumstances, but all in all, it's an extremely curious experience.

This time, in particular, I think part of it was because of the stress. I had promised to record and show people a full 5 section PT, to both give them a different perspective and get feedback, and I think part of me felt pressured to do really well. I wanted to prove myself, because I've always had a -10 decrease from my PT average when taking the real LSAT, and felt like maybe I was a fraud. Because of this doubt, like a self-fulfilling prophecy, I had a restless night, and got sick.

And at last, I proved myself to be a fraud. It felt really uncomfortable to have this fear, and to have an experience confirm this fear. Even though my average score tells me otherwise, I can still honestly believe my fears have come true. I start to think that maybe my previous 5 or 10 tests were the outliers and that my real abilities are truly reflected solely in this one test. This is probably a form of cognitive dissonance, and it freaks me out. Since then, I've taken another PT, and it was at a formal setting, with other 7sagers. So I know it is a legit score, and my score immediately jumped back up to my previous average. Deep down, I am still confident in my capabilities and my ability to overcome this fear, but there's now a constant little feeling clawing at the back of my mind.

I honestly view this as a very revealing and positive experience, because I've realized perhaps my biggest weakness: severe performance anxiety. I now have a clear goal, and like Ray Dalio says, terrible is better than mediocre. Moving forward, I will be recording myself and showing it to others again. Hopefully it will help me get over this nagging thought in my mind. Thanks for reading.

Hi,

I am about 60% complete with the 7sage core curriculum. I signed up for the Ultimate+ option and have dozens of PTs available. However, I wanted some insights on the number of PTs I should be doing per week once I complete the curriculum? I will most likely be completed by first to second week of November. I will be sitting for the January LSAT. Thanks for your insights!

Ok so long story short, I took the LSAT last year and I ended up not being ready for it and took it either way. I ended up keeping my score and it really was not even close to what I'm actually aiming for. Other than the fact that I made a bad mistake in keeping the score (I should have just declined it) I am now stuck with it. I am taking the January 26th 2019 test, two applications (schools) on my list are due on February 1st and February 15th. Is there a way to notify the schools that although my application shows one LSAT score, there is a second one coming? I am afraid of getting outright denied admission because they only see one score (which is a very low score in comparison to what the school is looking for) because the second tests' score will be coming out after the schools deadline. Can they pause my application even though i already have one score on it to wait for the second one?????? Or do I have to wait until next year????

i feel like there's no way i can keep up the study pace i've been at for 5 more weeks until the test, but i don't want to backslide the progress i've made thus far.

tips for staying focused/motivated? useful drills to keep skills sharp?