I am curious about how you all feel about this situation. Even though it doesn't model real life - pretend that your only two options are going to Iowa and graduating with $10,000 in debt -OR- going to Notre Dame and graduating with $150,000 in debt.

Which would you choose?

Hey Guys,

So i took the November LSAT and got my score back a couple weeks ago (143). I need a 151-154 in order to attend the law schools of my choice but I am really struggling with LG, but I am encouraged because it is the easiest section to improve upon. When I took my November LSAT, I got the LG section twice, and I noticed that the language was noticeably different than the language used on the example videos provided to us by JY. Has anyone noticed this as well? I can preform the problems, I just struggle with identifying which game board the passage is revealing to me. The words used to reveal which board to use on older LSATS (LSATS in which JY uses as example to teach the curriculum) are different the language used on newer LSAT LG section.

So I was looking at the logic games section that appeared on the Dec. LSAT and noticed that there was a miscellaneous game -- which I've heard are rare in general on the exams. Since there was one on the most recent exam before January, does that in any way mean that the odds of us seeing one are lower?

Hello Everyone,

This morning I received a grant of accommodation for upcoming Jan session. Last minute I am planning to change the test date to March. Do you know if my accommodation is going to follow the new test date? Or, will I need to reapply? Is there something else I need to know before initiating change of date in order to not loose additional time I received?

Thank you,

Andrii

I’m looking for some advice on how to structure the last few weeks before the January LSAT. I’ve been PT’ing consistently in the 168-169 range for the last month and would really love to get to a 170 on test date.

My biggest weakness is LR (and loss of points) is LR where I miss anywhere from 8-10, mainly necessary assumption questions and questions containing convoluted conditional reasoning. I go -1 to -3 on LG and RC.

Anyway, I’m wondering what people suggest for these last few weeks of studying and if getting to 170+ is feasible? I’ve cleared my calendar so I can focus on the lsat full time during this time and was planning on taking and BR’ing a PT a day while continuing to foolproof the logic games for each test I take and creating LR guides for the questions I’ve missed, but I’m a little nervous that I’ll use up all the recent tests and not have any new materials if I don’t do well in January and decide to retake in March.

When I am taking a timed section of LR, I am missing around 8-11 questions. This is usually due to lack of time and anxiety. I usually BR every single question, and I end up missing 3-5. I usually spend 35-70 minutes to BR an entire section. I am taking the January test, so I need to figure a way to bring my timed score down to my BR score. I am sure there have been more people in my boat, so what methods did you use to bring that score down. I am thinking to do timed sections back to back to really get a feel of the time constraint (i.e 4 LR sections/day). Let me know what has and has not worked for you. Thank you so much.

Alright, this was a confusing question but I'm still a little unsure about one part of it.

It's in the CC MSS section, so you guys can go look at it. Essentially the stimulus states that light is registered in the retina when [rhodopsin] molecules change shape. These molecules can change shape without the light simply by normal molecular motion, which introduces error into the visual system.

The final part is what trips me up. It says that the amount of molecular motion is directly proportional to the temperature of the retina.

OK, so this whole thing hinges on the definition of "directly proportional". What exactly does that mean? Well it means that as X increases, then so does Y and vice versa. OK got it. From this, I can assume that as temperature increases, so does the amount of movement. And as temperature decreases, then so does movement. I mean, that's what directly proportional means, increase X increase Y, etc...

My problem here is that the stimulus does not say whether more or less movement creates error. It simply says that "movement" in general creates error. But, like I said, this begs the question as to what type of movement creates the error? Does more movement create more error? Does less movement create less error? How am I supposed to infer this? I guess one could take the step in assuming that since less movement brings us closer to the state of no movement, then it must be that less movement causes less error. And since more movement is moving away from the state of no movement, more movement is thus causing more error. Since a state of no movement would essentially mean no error.

But this just seems to imply a lot of advanced deductions that one is expected to make while under the stress of trying to comprehend this information in the first place. I guess I pretty much answered my question in thinking this all through out loud, so let me know what you guys think as well.

Admin note: edited title

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-34-section-3-question-19/

Hi all,

It's about that time to start scholarship negotiations with schools. Please share your experience negotiating for higher scholarships. Share what worked and what didn't work. Please try to include the school name, your LSAT/GPA stats relative to the school's 25th/50th/75th percentiles, whether you are an out of state applicant, who you negotiated with, method of communication (phone/email), the school's initial and revised offers, and any other info you think might be relevant.

Ill start us off with a fail. I applied to University of Denver and received a 35k per year scholarship award. I replied to the scholarship award email with the following:

Hi (hidden),

Thank you for this generous offer! The cost of tuition and having as little debt as possible is very important to me. Would the admissions committee be able to increase the amount offered to me in light of my new LSAT score? My new score from the November test is higher than my score from the September test.

I received the following response:

Thanks for the kind email. Based on your numbers, you are not eligible to receive a higher award. You have been awarded the most you qualify for.

The school has sent several subsequent emails encouraging me to apply for other scholarships that they offer. I am not interested. This was an out of state application. I live in New England. My LSAT is a few points above their 75th percentile and my GPA falls between their 50th and 75th percentile. I believe being an out of state application affected the amount of scholarship I was awarded.

Hi everyone!

I would love some advice on whether or not to extend my 7sage subscription. My diagnostic score was 163. This wasn't a "cold" diagnostic as I'd read the PS logic bible front to back before doing a practice test. Two weeks after my first practice test I took my third practice test administered by my local law school under proctored conditions and I again scored a 163.

My plan was to really study and crush the lsat. I graduated college 4 years ago and my ugpa is a paltry 2.7. I'm a good test taker and I thought that my lsat, coupled with my work experience, could somewhat make up for my gpa. I've only made it through 35 hours of the CC. I love the 7sage method of teaching but the fact that I can't even make it through the CC is making me rethink my entire plan. Before coming over to 7sage, I tried Kaplan for a month. My score didn't improve at all and I continued to score 162-163.

I've worked in law firms. I've written motions and briefs. I have plenty of experience conducting intakes. I Like legal work but this whole process is discouraging.

Can you all tell me how you got through the CC? Did you jump around topics? I'm going through the syllabus in sequential order. Did you work at coffee shops? library? home?

I know what's best for me is highly dependent on my own life circumstances but I would really like some advice from others looking to make the law school plunge.

Thank you!

I have about a 10th grade level knowledge of science so science passages about things like fractal curves or the ocean floor spreading theory are completly abstract for me. Does anyone have advice on understanding complex science passages?

I took the LSAT on November 17th and didn't get the score I was hoping to receive. After reviewing my test online it was very obvious that the Reading Comprehension section was very bad and that is what caused me to not get the score I wanted. I am signed up to take the LSAT again on the 23rd this month, and was wondering if anyone had tips/tricks/advice for the reading comprehension section.

So it’s about that time I get serious with my life and really buckle down. I finished the June 2007 LSAT and scored a 58 RAW (150 cold diagnostic) with the breakdown of 13 LG, 14 on both LR and 17 on RC. My question for y’all is... what now?

I found that almost all the questions I answered were correct but I was getting lost in individual questions and ran out of time.

I’m scheduled to take the LSAT in January but I set it up as a preliminary evaluation to get myself more comfortable for March. I don’t expect to be scoring anywhere near the 160s for January but how do I set myself up for success in March?

Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Please see link below

June 2007 LSAT link:

https://www.lsac.org/sites/default/files/legacy/docs/default-source/jd-docs/sampleptjune.pdf

Hello 7sagers,

I wanted to talk about this reoccurring issue I have been having about delaying law school. So let me first start off by stating that I believe that I can go to law school for free if I score well on the LSAT. My UGPA is a 3.4 ( not amazing but hope to be a splitter). I graduated from college in 2017. I went right into TFA and hated it, and now I am at a job I love. My boss understands that I would love to go to law school in 2020, so we agreed I will most likely keep this job until next year.

However, that would place me on a deadline to take the LSAT this summer ( I want to have my applications in by late September). I have been researching and studying the lsat for a while now maybe years, and I think i finally got the right approach down. However, I am not sure I will be able to get the score i want by the summer.

So I am considering delaying as long as it takes to get that score. However, not only do i have constant fear and anxiety while studying, but now i have a fear that I am pushing back major events in my life since I am now 24 years old. Can someone who has delayed law school help me calm the F down? lol

I just graduated and thankfully I am able to study for the LSAT full time. Is 8 hours a day pushing it? (with sunday off)

Hi all,

Happy New Year!

I am registered for the January LSAT and most of the schools I am applying to will not review my application until February (after my January LSAT results come in). Given that my application will be held by the school and not reviewed until February, will I boost my chances at all by submitting in January instead of February?

Is it better to wait until I have my last LSAT score before submitting?

I feel like I want to use my last month before the LSAT to prepare for the LSAT but I also don't want to damage my chances by submitting in Feb. when I could technically submit in January and spend some time finishing my essays (time I could perhaps better utilize on LSAT prep)

Would love to hear if anyone else is in the same boat and would love to hear your opinion @"David.Busis" - I unfortunately, can't attend office hours because I'm in a different time zone and have work tomorrow...

Thank you,

Hey there! I'm using the Study Buddy Beta feature but I figure I'd post here as well. I'd love to study with you if you're in the Denver, Colorado area (even meet up in person!). If you're not in Colorado, that's fine too! Let's Skype.

About me: I'm aiming to be in the 170+ club. I'm looking for someone to be a war buddy and help me stay accountable. (An accountabili-buddy if you will). I won't be testing until November, but I'm trying to move fast and study hard.

Hi 7sagers: Is it important to include all work experience, such as a summer sales associate position in the "employment" section of the applications? I am wondering if I can omit because if I include these positions on the app, that would mean I would need to include it on my resume. I also want to add that I continuously emphasize in my application that I came from a low socio economic background so I worked since I was 16 years old. Therefore I think it would be weird if I didn't back this claim up on my resume. Currently I am at 2 pages on my resume and I don't want it to be any longer. Any advice is appreciated.

Hi everyone,

I just posted a new resource about law school interviews! The lesson gives you some general advice and collects accounts of recent interviews. It's incomplete, because we didn't have permission from everyone to post something, but it should give you something to chew on if you've had a request for an interview.

https://classic.7sage.com/admissions/lesson/law-school-interviews/

Happy new year!

Hi all --

I was very surprised / excited to find my first acceptance letter waiting for me after returning home from the holidays (yay!). However, the letter makes no mention of any kind of scholarship opportunities. Can anyone shed light on whether merit scholarships are generally included in an initial acceptance letter, or if that's something you might often hear about at a later date? Also, it was weird that I received the physical acceptance letter but the online status-checker continues to show no movement.

Thanks!

Kyle

Does anyone have a copy of PT86 I could buy or know where I can find one (preferably a digital copy)? I don’t have a 7Sage membership so I couldn’t get one through the sale. Thanks!

Hi 7sage,

I scored a 167 on the September LSAT and I have a 3.89 GPA from a top-3 US university. I'm currently an anthropology PhD student and am considering a joint JD-PhD with the goal of practicing law. I'd like to go into public interest law to fight evictions and rent increases - or something in that vein. The PhD would be less for career purposes and more to inform legal practice. My list of schools I'd like to apply to in the 2019-2020 cycle, based on the school's strengths, rankings, and my odds of getting in based on 7sage's calculator, are:

NYU - target

Berkeley - target

Georgetown - target

Michigan - target

UCLA - target

USC - target/"safety"

Chicago - reach

Yale - reach

Harvard - reach

UC Irvine - "safety"

Is this realistic? I'm currently signed up for the January 26 LSAT but am exhausted by grad school already and am unsure if it's worth starting studying to retake in a few weeks.

Thanks!

Figured I'd give it a shot. Wanted to know if anyone else knew about it.

https://trials.atfoundation.org/

I believe I understand what the two words mean, and even understand what it means in the context of a practicing lawyer, but what does pro bono mean for law students? I see articles talking about supervising attorneys, pro bono trips, in-house projects, and outside organizations. Is pro bono just the law school way of saying volunteering? Do students have to find these themselves, are they like clubs and organization that anyone can join, or are they competitive?

Would appreciate any insight from someone who knows a bit about this topic. Thank you, all.

My diagnostic was a 147, and after about 4 months of study using 7sage, I am now averaging an LSAT score of 158. I have about 4 more weeks of study left before taking the LSAT this month, and I'm seeking advice on how to see a big enough improvement in these 4 weeks so that I score at least a 165 on the real LSAT. What is the best way to get me up there in less than 4 weeks? For context, my I perform worse on LG, averaging -10. Should I focus more on LG these weeks, without completely neglecting LR sections? Or should I strive to perfect LR and LC sections? I usually miss aroun 6 to 8 LR and LC questions.

Thanks!