All,

On the 7Sage LR flowchart I cant figure out what “piece together the information” entails.

Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.

Tjanks

I am pulling my hair out over GULC's optional essay prompts. Anything I come up with feels forced, lame, or like it doesn't add to my overall application. I know they are optional, but GULC is my top school, so I'm fretting a bit over what it might (subconsciously) mean if I don't feel motivated to write one -- they're just so funky! I'm done with all of my other applications at this point so I'm just trying to figure this out... For reference:

If anyone has any tips or examples they've read, feel free to pass them my way!

Hi All,

I took the June test and scored a 153 which was my average at the time. I studied all summer and only had time to take two PT's before September; both were recent tests and I scored a 159 and 161. I took the September test feeling really confident and scored a 150 which I haven't scored that low since my diagnostic. Test conditions were good and I wasn't feeling nervous. (-11 RC, -15 LR, -8LG, -10LR). I have never done so poorly in LR, but RC and LG were relatively consistent.

I was hoping to apply ED but that is out the window. I was wondering if I should sign up for November or just wait it out until January? I graduate in early December so I will have more time then but I can't help but think that I should try to sit for November so I don't pin up my hopes of having one last take in January for this cycle. I'm curious whether it would be advisable to just sign up Nov and withdrawal before if these next weeks don't go well.

My target would be 158-162. My average BR is 165.

Thank you for your input!

I keep getting emails from Mitchell Hamlin, and it got me to really think about hybrid schools (online and intensive in-person classes).

Where I live, it is 4 hours to the nearest law school. I would have to move and live away from home, causing hardship at home and racking up student loan Bill's in the meantime. It is not preferable, but it's the only options here at all. So, a hybrid program is looking really appealing to me right now. I'm actually shocked that ASU hasnt already done this, and I'll probably email them to see if maybe they are considering it in the near future. They already do a vast amount of online degrees and classwork.

Anyway, I wanted to know what folks thought of Mitchell Hamlin and Syracuse Law. There are three schools as of the 2019 year, but Southwestern is looking less appealing to me than the other two. I want a law degree, but I dont want a University of Phoenix kind of law degree that might not help me (sorry South Western). So, I would love any knowledge or feedback from fellow 7Sagers. What say you?

Probably the thousandth person to ask this, but how can I improve my time on LG? I can go either -0 or -2 now, but it takes me an hour to figure out all four games completely. I do the game board up front and don’t have to really refer to the stimulus that much (or at all) after I’ve made my board, but I do know that figuring out which game board to use can take me some time, and shaking loose the inferences takes me a while. Looking for concrete tips. TIA

I was advised to not repeat things on my resume and I'm not really sure why. I was under the impression that your resume is just to briefly describe what you did at your work. Of course in an essay one wouldn't want to be overly repetitive and use the same words/phrases, but some job duties between jobs are the same.

If one were i.e. working at a fast food restaurant, and then their next job was working at a different fast food restaurant....one would probably expect to read "flipping burgers" repeated between the jobs...I don't understand the importance of trying to rephrase that to ..."rotating" burgers or something.

I think it sounds a little bit stupid and like I'm trying to be fancy and trick the reader into thinking I did something different between jobs...or it just lacks consistency...I just think this is the wrong advice...

Hi all,

My account expired on Sunday Sept 30th while I was gone away for my cousins wedding for the past week. It completely slipped my mind to extend my account before the wedding, and now all of my Preptests that I bought are all gone! TBH I am slightly panicking, does anyone know who I should contact to see if I can get my account back to how it was? I really don't want (don't have $$) to buy all the exams all over again :(

#help

Hello, I took the sept lsat and am not satisfied with my score. I actually took the testmasters course but our teacher was very inexperienced and more interested in is own 170+ score and his law school application. I don’t fully blame the teacher but I’m really not happy with the results of the course (score was worse than my first diagnostic in July). Additionally, the week before the exam, I knew I was getting sick and my body crashed right after I took the test and I was sick for over a week. I am pretty sure that had something to do with my disappointing score. I didn’t know about 7sage until this past weekend and I plan to take the November exam. But I wanted to reach out to those in the course to see which program would be best for me. I have materials to self study but would like to learn alternative ways to prepare.

If anyone has the time & ability to give me some insight/perspective/advice, I would truly so appreciate it!!!

Here is my situation: I graduated in May, planned to take one gap year, took the LSAT in September, and am now recognizing that I need far more time to study for the LSAT if I want to have a legitimate shot at my goal schools. I would like to attend a T14, so I am determined to score in the 170s. I was BRing around this score (but..my score would fluctuate quite a bit). Thus, I was not too surprised when I scored a 163 on the September test.

Basically, I am certain that if I took more time, I could score much higher, which would give me a good shot at the schools I am hoping to get into. So (partly since I am 21 and am personally in no urgent rush to start law school as soon as possible) I want to just take the time to study more for the LSAT and wait another year to apply to schools. However, my parents are very against this, and they think that November should be my last shot, and whatever score I get..that's the score I get. They honestly do not have many reasons for this, aside from just wanting me to get started with law school and not take any more time than necessary. I do not think they fully grasp the significance of everything from the LSAT score to the ranking of the law school one attends, but they are also not particularly amenable to me trying to explain it to them (they are both attorneys themselves, but honestly I do not think their experience was the same as it is today).

Has anyone has walked a road similar to this one before? Or anyone have any insight on how I should go about this? I am keenly aware that this is a highly personal situation that is very specific to my life, but I also believe that many law school applicants have had to have gone through this before, and I would really love to hear some perspectives on the matter. Do you have any advice on how I should go about this with my parents? Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!!

Hey y'all,

Since I've already taken PT 60 to 68, I have been foolproofing games in these PTs alongside ones in 1 all the way up to 40 and A, B, C, Feb 97 and C2. I personally like this combination very much. But I haven't touched PTs in the 70s yet.

With the exception of the last game in 72 and the virus game in 79, would you say games in the 70s are more or less very similar to games from 60 to 68? I'd like to know whether foolproofing games in the 60s(I've repeated each and every one of them at least 3 times thus far) in addition to the old PTs has prepped me well for the 70s or not.

Thank you :)

Hey everyone,

Just wanted some thoughts on my situation. My last 10 PT's were averaging 168.5, and I made a 166. I'm definitely disappointed but test day penalty is definitely real.

On the bright side, I was fortunate enough to finish undergrad with 3.9+, so GPA will help me.

Any advice for schools such as UTAustin, Vandy, and others in the same range?

If I take the January LSAT can I still apply for law school this cycle? Generally, when is the latest LSAT that one can take and still apply this cycle? Thanks!

September scores are in! Feeling indifferent about my score. I was averaging average 157 on PTs and ended up getting a 155. LG is my biggest strength. I got super lucky and had 2 LG sections, ended getting 0 wrong which is great. LR I did much worse than my normal average per section and RC a few points better but still I think I can improve by November. I admit I was getting burnt out and ended up having a bunch happen in my personal life the week before. Now that I have my score I’ve been doing research and while I plan on retaking I’m concerned about when I should apply. I’m pretty confident my scores will get me into the schools I want as I’m right at the medians and I’m also a URM. However, I’m really wanting to get a scholarship. I plan on being in a public service position and really want to reduce my debt. When I look at my chances of getting in to the schools I want, the percentage is about 10% higher now than it is if I wait until December. I don’t know anything about scholarship negotiation but I’m thinking if I already have a good chance to be accepted then I can apply now, still retake in November and hopefully with a higher score be able to negotiate scholarships. Is that the right thinking? Any advice would be great!

Hello, I am applying to law schools this fall in Canada. I applied last cycle but stupidly rushed the LSAT with the wrong prep materials and not devoting much time while in school. I wrote in December 2017 and February 2018 and scored in the low 140's both times. I realize I screwed up big time in retrospect and I should've cancelled at least one of my scores. I found 7sage and it has been life-changing. I am nearly done the core curriculum (just some problem sets left) but yesterday I did my first test since February. I scored a 150 on the June 2007 test. Even though this is not very good, it was still an improvement which has given me some confidence that I can do it. I wanted to seek some advice as I am signed up for the November test date. I am working part time with just under 20 hours a week and not in school at present. The rest of the time I have been devoting to studying.

I am currently reviewing the test video explanations after blind reviewing the test. I got -11 on RC, -9 on 1 LR and -11 on the other LR. My logic games was the weakest section (-12) which makes sense as I have not spent using J.Y.'s fool proof method as of yet. I know once I learn from my mistakes and get familiar with LG, I can have a major hike in my score. I also feel I can improve in RC and LR because I sometimes make stupid mistakes and feel like I learnt a lot while blind reviewing. Speed is also an issue for me at present which I think I can improve on by employing 7sage techniques and practicing. I have not attempted the 9 preptests I have access to in the basic 7sage plan yet. Do you suggest I use those for drilling and then practice with the remaining tests I have (PrepTests 52-81 & 83/84). Finally, if somebody could just advise me on the best way to prepare for this test in my remaining time. I am aiming for 160+ on the test. I am not sure if schools will even consider me if I delay all the way until January especially with my atrocious previous scores. I apologize for the long post, any comments will be helpful!

What do you think of the LSAT Answer Watch? The website says it's LSAC compliant and it's not a chronograph.

https://lawschooli.com/lsat-watch-what-is-the-best-lsat-analog-watch/#comments

Jy Should invent a course for Florida Bar exam. he's the real MVP. :)

Hello Everyone,

This is my first post on the 7Sage Discussion forum. Just today I signed up for the 7Sage course. I'm posting just to ask for some advice from you all, as many of you seem to have this whole process figured it, while I still feel like an outsider.

I have been studying for the LSAT since last December. At that time, I was only using various LSAT prep books that I had purchased from bookstores and from Amazon. After a couple months of this I came across the heavily populated field of LSAT prep programs. I chose Kaplan Prep because it was a name I was familiar with and thus trusted. I was and still am a full time student working 21hr weeks, so the self-paced online course was really and still is the only option for me. Unfortunately, the Kaplan course just did not click with me at all, I found myself mindlessly watching hours of their videos and never actually doing the LSAT. On test day (June 2018) I still felt like a stranger to the test, unsure of how I was even going to tackle it. I recieved a 151.

I was disheartened by this score but still determined to improve. I knew I could no longer show up on test day feeling unfamiliar with the actual test. I signed up for the September LSAT, but this time around I completely self-studied, apart from watching 7Sage LG explanations on Youtube (LOVED these). So, from July till September all I used to study was the actual test. However, I rarely ever took full-length/proctored PT. Perhaps I felt that I couldn't find the time, or I was just scared of how poorly I was going to do, but I almost only did timed sections in batches of either 1,2, at most 3, at a time. I think I realized that this was not enough to get me to where I wanted to be in terms of my score, but I still felt better knowing that I was doing a lot of these timed sections, getting familiar with the test, better at completing sections on time, identifying questions types and patterns, etc. I felt like my score was going to significantly improve, I got a 152.

Fast forward to today and I am officially a 7Sage student and am extremely happy that I am, but after seeing other's success in this forum this September, I am kicking myself for not enrolling back in July. I'm also registered for the November LSAT. That leaves me with about a month and a half to dive into 7Sage. I am certainly no stranger to the LSAT and have been studying for this test, although using different startegies, for almost a year. My goal since freshman year of college was to get a 170 on the LSAT but it seems that goal is evading me much easier than I ever would've imagined. However, if I could boost my score by 10 points by November I feel I'd have a decent chance at some T25's (3.67 GPA). I have also come to have a different perspective on taking another year to study for the test after reading other similar post on this forum, and wonder if I should give myself another cycle to get closer to that glorious 170 everyone wants. I am still only 21, but the idea of spending an enitire year out of school, working, and studying for one test still seems foreign to me, and my parents...

I apolgize for such a long post, and thank you if you read this far, I just have not gotten the oppurtunity to really talk to anyone about this entire process. I think I am heading in the right direction by signing up for 7Sage and posting here, but besides that I am running out of answers. Thank you for any and all helpful responses/thoughts/comments!!!

Hey 7sagers, advice needed:

I took the LSAT three times already with a 162 high score and a 159 average. I don’t know what happened with my last LSAT; I was practice testing in the mid-160s. But anyway, there’s nothing I can do about that now. My GPA is 3.99.

My dream school is Northwestern (I’m from Chicago). I was planning on applying early decision, but given my low LSAT scores, I doubt I’ll get in. Should I still apply early decision? Or should I apply to a different, lower ranked school early decision? Other schools on my list are Georgetown, George Washington, Boston College, Boston University, U of Illinois, etc.

I am planning on going into public interest immigration law and I know Northwestern has a new Pritzker public interest grant so that might help me in addition to my post-grad experience, but not if admissions only cares about the LSAT score and GPA.

Thoughts? Advice? Also, should I write an addendum for my low LSAT score?

Thanks!!

Hello!

I will be graduating next semester in spring 2019, but I plan to take a year off to really focus on LSAT while working a part time job. Is it okay if I ask professors to write me recommendations for the cycle of 2020? (I will be asking in spring semester 2019 before I graduate)

I am really nervous about this because I do not know who else to ask for recommendation letters when I do apply.

Hey 7Sage community,

I fluctuate between -5 to -12 on RC with little consistency, which really grinds my gears given how much I've tried to improve RC. I've honed in my notation, worked on parsing difficult argument structures in previous RC passages and even in my extracurricular reading, and avoid referencing the passage under timed conditions unless a question specifies a line or word. Can't say it's the science passages that get me specifically, since I usually find them to be the most straight-forward. I'd chalk up my RC pitfalls to two things: (1) I always run out of time -- I'm usually hitting the 30 minute mark when I'm about to start the 4th passage; (2) I find "Most Strongly Supported" questions are the ones that invariably give me the most trouble.

Bearing in mind these two issues, does anyone have any tips and tricks that have helped them improve their RC performance?

Hey everyone! I’ll just get right to it. I took the LSAT Dec 17 (159), Feb 18 (156) and Sep 18 (157). The first time my score came back lower I was crushed but I figured that it was bad luck and I could bounce back. Signed up for 7Sage after that, did the CC, did fresh PTs and I was consistently scoring between 161-165 on my PTs in the weeks leading up to this LSAT. When my score came back, I kind of broke down. I wish I could chalk it up to test anxiety but I don’t normally suffer from it. I have no clue what to do. Would a 4th attempt look bad? Should I even bother to attempt again? I would really appreciate your thoughts.

I'm registered for the November 2018 LSAT and as of now the earliest date I can postpone to is January 2019.. I'm going to apply next cycle so I'm thinking about the September 2019 date. It doesn't look like this option is available yet. I already emailed LSAC about this but anyone know what their reply would be?

Thank in advance.

So, I recently came across a concept some of you are probably familiar with known as "hindsight bias." For our purposes, it probably translates to seeing a question you got wrong and then immediately discounting it thinking it was just a simple mistake that you won't repeat? I am trying my best to have a healthy relationship with it which I believe boils down to simply being honest, after all there's no gain when I am not, especially when I am doing drills or PT'S. Can anyone else relate?

Hi everyone,

I want a rough idea for how long it took some of you guys to complete the core curriculum; logic games section / Reading Comp and practice testing?

Also, Is there anything I can do to improve my focus? Sometimes I do one logic game and feel like I need a break....I want to be mentally stronger so I can sit there and get through more of the CC faster.

Any feedback is appreciated! Thanks everyone in advance.

I scored ~6 points below my PT average so I will retake in November for sure, but right now I have no idea how to get prepared.

I got 156 in Sept. (RC -12; LR-11/-9; LG -1), but I was consistently scoring between 161-163 for the last 10 timed PTs. My average performance for each section is at -6 for LR, -0.4 for LG and -10.9 for RC. With that being said, I am aiming for 166 in Nov...is it possible?

RC is always my weakest section, and I feel I actually made no improvements since cold diagnosis ;-(. Can anyone give me some recommendations for extra reading materials? Reading for scale helped me a little bit, but I am still having trouble with science passages cuz I usually got lost with those professional terminologies.

At this point I don't know if I still need to focus on LG as improving from -1 to -0 probably results in no score increases anyways? And I am considering redo CC for LR but this seems to be a huge amount of work...is it worth the effort to redo CC? Or is there any good supplements for LR?

Any inputs are appreciated!