Does anybody know if there is a waiting list for the Sept LSAT? I missed the deadline to register and was wondering if they offer that option?

If not, is the November LSAT a good time to take it?

When proctors call "time is up", are you able to bubble in a last-minute choice (practically and legally)?

I just finished a PT that made use twice of "it is," in english to convey logic, in one SA question. This indicator is not in the CC and honestly, thinking about if the word following "it is" was necessary or sufficient slowed me down drastically.

"it is" is a group TWO indicator. This might be intuitive for most people but it definitely was not for me. My uncertainty was compounded when the context of the statement was "It is imprudent to appear prudent." Of course, finding the conditionality is a lot easier when the statement is "it is good to go outside," but I wanted to share what I have learned in hopes that others will not be thrown off if you happen to come across this indicator in the future!

Hi everyone,

I have wanted to apply to a regional school; however, the website states that multiple LSAT scores are averaged. This will work to my disadvantage since I cancelled once, then had a really disappointed LSAT performance. I would have to score a 175 or higher to pull my average LSAT score to their median.

I wanted to get some input whether I should just forget about applying that school, and set focus on another regional school with lower LSAT median.

Needless to say I am applying to both. Have any of you experienced something similar to this? Were you able to get in, get waitlisted, etc?

Would love some input. Thanks!

Any pointers on how I can improve my speed on RC without reducing accuracy levels? I'm doing quiet good but I find myself with one passage unread after the 35 mins is up. And also does fool-proofing LG work?

Any tips on how to actively review or what are some ways you guys reviews ?

I've been drilling Flaw questions pretty hard the last two days and I'm not making much of an improvement. On the easier questions (lvl1-3) I can easily identify the flaw and rarely miss. On harder questions (lvl 4&5) I seem to struggle much more and often rely on the answer choices to identify the flaw for me in the few I am able to get right. Is there something I could do to try and improve this question type?

I have a large gap between my actual PT score and my blind review score. I have been consistently scoring in the 168-169 range but am BRing in the 177-179 range. If anyone has had a similar experience what is the best way to get over this?

Hello everyone,

I am working towards taking the November LSAT as my first test. I had hoped to take the September test, but missed the deadline by one day (flew home from Asia and mindlessly thought the deadline was the 1st). I have been studying on and off since March, but plan on studying full-time now that I have graduated.

I have a few questions; is it wise to submit applications before my LSAT score comes through? If I score lower than expected in November, would it be okay to test again in January? If I do test again in January, should I hold off applying until I receive those scores? Or should I submit early and have my updated scores sent in as they come?

I read that applying around December is fairly acceptable as long as you aren't shooting for ED. I was in the top 15% at my school (UCSB) and my first raw PT was 163. I am hoping to raise that by at least 5 points. Although I am only applying to one T-14, most others are still in the T-50. Sorry for all the questions, feeling a little frantic about making this cycle!

Thanks so much!

Okay, I just had to tell someone. I am officially registered for the October LSAT (in Asia). We are stationed in northern Japan, so I will be making the 800 mile trek to Tokyo for the exam. Anyone here ever tested overseas? Anyone else testing in Asia? Anyhow, I'm super excited and nervous right now and just had to share. :-)

I find myself in a bit of a pickle here...

I have one professional and one academic letter ready to go, both of which are quite strong. The academic letter is from a former TA who is now a professor at a different university, but his recommendation is really thoughtful and supportive. I know a faculty member's recommendation would look better...

I had also planned to include a professor that I'd taken three classes with during undergrad, but when he responded to my email request, he said, "I do remember you, but not as well as I should. I'd be happy to write." Understandably, I've been out of school for three years and it's been four years since I've taken a class with him, but his email was less than encouraging. I'm wondering if I should not include his letter in my application...it seems like a gamble. Any advice would be super appreciated.

Okay, I know this is probably a VERY silly question, but I am getting super confused right now even after reading LSAC's official instructions and googling online.

So I have downloaded, printed out, and signed the Transcript Request Form. What should I do next? Should I send it to the schools that I attended and ask them to send the form along with my official transcript to LSAC by mail?

When I applied for grad school I requested my transcript online with my undergraduate institution, and the process was pretty simple and straight forward. I just go to the website, fill in the name of the grad school, select the right options and hit "submit". I tried this again just now, but when I searched LSAC/Law School Admission Council, nothing showed up.

Could anyone please tell me the exact process? I apoligize for asking this stupid question but I just don't understand what to do with my transcripts now.

Hey all, I hope everyone did well on July test! Unfortunately, I'm a bit stumped since I did poor on one of the LR sections. For those of you who had an LG experimental, were the following questions real or experimental?

In addition, does anyone recall if the nutritional deficiencies question was the 2nd question of the first or second real LR?

Hey ! . I had a moment today while studying and I just wanted to seek some more advice . So I am currently still learning logic reasoning by question type. I’ve completed mbt, mss, strength and weaken questions . Yesterday as I practiced my untimed strengthen questions I scored 14/16 . Feeling on top of the world I said it’s time to do a mixed review timed of all the question types I’ve learned thus far . Unfortunately I scored 5/12 on just the mbt and a few strengthen questions. I gave myself 5 full minutes to get these answers correct and I didn’t make myself feel bad for not complying some outside of the 5 minutes. However I did worst. Does this mean I still don’t understand the question types ? I haven’t done more than the first 20 PTs but I’m concerned that I need to do something different or is it just the process ?

What do you think?

Also is there anyone who has logic reasoning packets that can help me study by question type ??

"I Like It" is the song of the summer. Don't believe me, believe NPR: https://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2018/06/21/622103234/our-2018-songs-of-the-summer

Now that you're totally convinced, sing along!

Now I like reading, underlining

Comprehending sh*t, I’m shining

I like helpful test-day proctors

Front or back page? Where we signing?

I like J.Y.’s explanations, they really really rock

I like timing LSAT sections, spin the bezel on my watch

I like Blind Reviewing tests, like I get a second chance

I like proving LSN wrong, I'll go where it say I can’t

They call me Cardi. Bardi. LSAT study.

Print and copy, drinking coffee

Hotta then a Somali, writing notes, can’t stop me!

Hop outta school, open my books

Bubble answers with my No. 2

Fool proofing logic games, hard as I can

After law school I’ll be driving a Lam’ ;)

Told my friends I'm sorry though

'Bout LSAT, can’t party, bros

Yeah they call me Cardi Bri, I train LSAT like cardio!

Be sure to check out my Soundcloud!! LOL JK I defs do not have a Soundcloud. The only reason I would ever post such a thing is because my identity is 99% anonymous here :)

I couldn't get my mind off today's LSAT so this was my way of decompressing and having a little fun :) Hope ya'll enjoyed!!

Hey all, I am currently in the process of signing up for CAS Credential. During my undergrad, I double major in Cognitive Science and Sociology. How should I categorize "cognitive science?" It is an interdisciplinary subject. Is it a social science? or natural science? Either category does not have the major listed. Should I just go ahead choose "social science" and "psychology" instead? But I feel that would be a distortion, should I choose "other"? Thank you so much!

Hi Everyone,

I've been out of school for about 5 years now. I graduated with a BS + MS in Accounting and have completed the CPA examination. After college I worked for a large public accounting firm in a pretty selective practice group doing financial advisory for some of the largest investment banks in the world. I developed a great relationship with one of the Partners in that group and he will be one of my letter of recommendation writers.

I do know, however, that there is a preference many schools have for academic letters of recommendation. I've received two of those as well, one from a finance professor I TA'd for and another from my University's business school dean.

Originally my plan was to use all 3 letter of recommendation. However, I've noticed that some schools actually restrict you to just using two letters. So my question is, which two should I use? Is the preference for academic letters so great that it would be detrimental to use the letter from my professional recommender? I felt that given the experience I had the professional letter would help set me apart a bit. But now that for some applications I may have to choose just two letters I'm not sure if I should use the two academic or use the professional one with one academic?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

I guess you can say that I am starting out. I'm going to be testing in November and more than likely January as well. I decided that September was unrealistic. We can get a small group going where we can all work on problems together and help each other get through this madness. I feel really optimistic about this exam and believe we can do well. Feel free to contact me here or look me up on Instagram. My name is LawSkewlProbs on IG. Hope to hear from some of your soon.

This is so stupid that I did this, but I forgot to register for the September exam. The deadline was yesterday. Do you think I could call someone? What are my options? What could I possibly do? I am so stressed right now

I know it's possible to adjust the speed of the videos, but it doesn't work on my mac laptop. I've tried both chrome and safari. Suggestions on what settings/software needs to change?

Hi,

I am taking the September LSAT and have taken about 8 practice tests thus far and have been between 157 and 160 on all of them, however my BR is much much higher, as High as 169. This is especially true on LR, where I am normally -5-8 and BR -1-3. I have about 40 days left and would love to score around 162-165. Is this possible and what is my best course of action.

For the love of all that is holy please tell me how to skip questions. I can skip like nobody’s business with LG but I never skip any LR or RC question. I always finish my sections but I think this is really inhibiting me from getting higher LR scores because I sink the most time on hard questions and I’m noticing in BR that I’m getting a ton of easy ones wrong to make up for lost time. Any advice? #help

Hello everyone,

I am currently going through the CC, and I am having major difficulties with the parallel questions and the necessary questions. For the parallel reasoning + flaw questions, I do understand the answers for the easier questions but as they get more difficult and implement Formal Logic, my brain gives up on me. I’m having GREAT difficulty in translating lawgic to English. And I have no idea how to improve. I tried going back to the logic sections and I understand those lessons,but I really stumble with translating when I see real problems . Also for necessary assumptions, I just don’t know how to solve these problems. I understand what kind of answer I have to look for, but every time I see a new problem, I feel like I’m not understanding what I have to do fully.

Please give me any advice ! Thank you so much everyone

Hello everyone, currently freaking out from yesterday's LSAT. Probably just in post LSAT stress but I am currently fearing for the worst. Heres the run down, I usually score really well on the LG sections, like finish with extra time and miss 0-2 questions tops. This has helped me consistently meet my goal of 170 and higher on my PTs. However, yesterdays daunting LG games destroyed me, it was none of the practice LG's I had seen and I had done a good amount of PT's. I felt so bad once the section ended that I swore my only saving grace was if it was experimental, it wasn't. I couldn't even finish it in time and honestly can't remember if I bubbled in the 2 questions I didn't get to. I remember marking so many as ones that I needed to go back on to check which I rarely have to do in PTs. I am trying to get into a T14 so this 170 is crucial. I felt pretty good on the other sections but you never really know. I had a mini panic attack when I found out this LG wasn't experimental and I don't want it to cost me my chance of a T14 since some average LSAT scores or need good reasons to accept the second score. Should I cancel? Or am I just being paranoid?

Hey everyone, I am having a hard time with Flaw Questions. I know we are supposed to memorize the common argument flaws but that is where my struggle is. I am very much a visual/example type of learner. When going through the flaw types I realized it would really help me to understand and memorize them if I had examples. So I have been going through PTs and Drills that I have done trying to match them up with the flaw types and could use some help. Some I am able to easily match up to the type of flaw and others I am not. I have listed the different types below, some have specific question examples and then underneath I have a list of questions I need help matching. If anyone knows of any specific PT questions that match up with the other flaws please let me know so I can add them to my list. I hope this can also help others that struggle with flaws.

Flaw Types with Example Questions

1) Attacking the source of the argument

PT19S2Q14 *Thanks keets993

"rejects a claim by attacking the proponents of the claim rather than addressing the claim itself"

PT25S4Q04 *Thanks keets993

"assails legislation on the basis of the questionable character of supporters of the legislation"

PT39S4Q11 *Thanks keets993

"diverts attention from the content of the article by focusing on the writers' actions"

2) Uses terms unclearly/equivocation

PT25S04Q17

"The argument ambiguously uses the word "afford""

PT53S1Q12 *Thanks keets993

"ambiguity of risk"

PT22S2Q24 *Thanks keets993

"draws a conclusion based on equivocal language"

3) Analogies that really aren’t analogous enough

"It relies on an analogy between two things that are insufficiently alike in the respects in which they would have to be alike for the conclusion to be supported"

4) Appealing to authority in an area outside their expertise

5) Causation confusions

PT47S3Q23

“It takes for granted that if a correlation has been observed between two phenomena, they must be causally connected”

PT30S2Q25 *Thanks keets993

"because hormone levels are correlated with heart disease they influence heart disease"

PT47S1Q23 *Thanks keets993

"ignores the possibility that an increase in theta waves may not always be accompanied by a state of profound creativity"

PT18S4Q9 *Thanks keets993

"It mistakes a correlation between the type of brain damage described and Parkinson's disease for a causal relation between the two"

PT39S4Q20 *Thanks keets993

"overlooks the possibility that the same thing may causally contribute both to education and to good health"

PT20S1Q10 *Thanks akistotle

"ignores the possibility that drivers who drive recklessly have a preference for red cars"

PT20S4Q14 *Thanks akistotle

"It concludes that one thing was caused by another although the evidecnce given is consistent with the first thing's having caused the second"

PT30S2Q25 *Thanks akistotle

"Because hormone levels are correlated with heart disease they influence heart disease"

PT31S2Q9 *Thanks akistotle

"offers no evidence that the individuals queried would have responded differently had they been asked the same questions in years prior to the survey"

PT64S1Q5 *Thanks akistotle

"dogs' misbehavior is the cause of, rather than the result of, frequent discipline"

PT65S1Q8 *Thanks akistotle

"illicitly infers a cause from a correlation"

PT66S4Q25 *Thanks akistotle

"foods containing fiber also contain other substances that, when consumed, tend to prevent colon cancer"

6) Circular Reasoning

PT17S2Q2 *Thanks keets993 and akistotle

"draws a conclusion that simply restates a claim given in support of that conclusion"

PT17S3Q20 *Thanks keets993 and akistotle

"assumes what it sets out to conclude"

PT6S3Q8 *Thanks akistotle

"It assumes what it seeks to establish"

PT24S2Q8 *Thanks akistotle

"presupposes the truth of the conclusion it is attempting to establish"

PT49S2Q23 *Thanks akistotle

"The purported evidence that it cites in support of its conclusion presumes that the conclusion is true"

7) Confusing necessary and sufficient conditions

PT63 S1 Q25

“infers that something that is sufficient to provide a motive is necessary to provide a motive”

PT22S2Q25 *Thanks keets993

"confuses a sufficient condition with a required condition"

PT17S2Q11 *Thanks keets993 and akistotle

"It mistakenly interprets P to be claiming that a factor assures, rather than is necessary for, a legislator's effectiveness"

PT17S3Q9 *Thanks keets993

"does not establish that only a bird could have made the track"

PT18S4Q3 *Thanks keets993

"Grass seeds will not germinate well unless they are pressed firmly into the ground. The grass seeds sown in this yard were pressed firmly into the ground, so they will germinate well"

PT22S4Q21 *Thanks akistotle

"presupposing that if an action's having a certain property is necessary for its being a certain type of action, then having that property is sufficient for being that type of action"

PT23S2Q19 *Thanks akistotle

"taking the nonexistence of something as evidence that a necessary precondition for that thing also did not exist"

PT23S3Q17 *Thanks akistotle

"mistakes being sufficient to justify punishment for being required to justify it"

PT24S2Q23 *Thanks akistotle

"From the assertion that something is necessary to a moral order, the argument concludes that that thing is sufficient for an element of the moral order to be realized"

PT30S4Q14 *Thanks akistotle

"It mistakes something that is necessary for its conclusion to follow for something that ensures that the conclusion follows"

PTJ07S3Q25 *Thanks akistotle

"confuses a condition's being required for a given result to occur in one case with the condition's being sufficient for such a result to occur in a similar case"

PT64S1Q24 *Thanks akistotle

"confuses a claim that under certain conditions a certain action should be taken with a claim that the action need not be taken in the absence of those conditions"

PT67S2Q09 *Thanks akistotle

"treats a statement whose truth is required for the conclusion to be true as though it were a statement whose truth ensures that the conclusion is true"

PT68S3Q21 *Thanks akistotle

"takes for granted that the speech could not be inappropriate if it was not inflammatory"

8) False dichotomy

PT22S4Q09 *Thanks keets993

"treats two things, neither one of which can plausibly be seen as excluding the other, as though they were mutually exclusive"

PT39S4Q26 *Thanks keets993

"Since there is a storm moving in, the outside temperature cannot rise this afternoon. Therefore, it must fall."

9) Confusing probability for certainty

"It takes for granted that the economic incentive to construct colonies on the Moon will grow sufficiently to cause such a costly project to be undertaken."

10) Confusing "is" for "ought"

11) Percentages v. quantity

"Far more pedestrians cross at corners than jaywalk"

12) Surveys and samplings to reach a general conclusion

PT 63S1Q3

“It relies on the opinions of a group unlikely to be representative of the group at issue in the conclusion”

PT51S1Q4

“fails to state the number of dermatologists surveyed, which leaves open the possibility that the sample of doctors is too small to be reliable”

PT31S2Q03 *Thanks keets993

"Those who are best able to provide answers to the question are patients, rather than physicians"

PT39S4Q21 *Thanks keets993

"that there may be few if any other plumbers working in Moore's town"

13) Hasty generalization

PT51S3Q6

“draws a generalization that is broader than is warranted by the findings cited”

PT30S2Q13 *Thanks samantha.ashley92

"Treats a claim about what is currently the case as if it were a claim about what has been the case for an extended period"

PT39S2Q2 *Thanks samantha.ashley92

“draws a conclusion about all cases of a certain kind on the basis of evidence that justifies such a conclusion only about some cases of that kind”

PT18S4Q25 *Thanks keets993

"He attempts to refute a general claim by reference to nonconforming cases, although the claim is consistent with the occurrence of such cases"

14) Experiments to reach a general conclusion

"playing the study's card game perfectly requires fairly low levels of perception and memory"

15) Your argument fails therefore the opposite of your conclusion must be true

PT47S1Q8

“takes for granted that the fact that a claim has not been demonstrated to be false establishes that it is true”

PT51S1Q15 *Thanks samantha.ashley92

“the argument, in its attempt to refute one theory of species classification, presupposes the truth of an opposing theory”

16) Relative v. absolute

PT 53S1Q22 *Thanks keets993

"mistakes a merely relative property for one that is absolute"

PT 85S3Q24

"takes for granted that there are not significantly more households with a dog than ones with a cat"

17) Confusing one possible solution for the only solution

"Confuses being an adequate solution with being a required solution"

18) Red herring

PT26S2Q11

"it appeals to the emotion of pity rather than addressing the issue raised"

PT18S4Q11 *Thanks keets993

"relies on an irrelevant reason for rejecting the civil libertarian's argument"

-PT18S2Q04 *Thanks keets993

"He argues against a point that is not one that Marianna was making"

19) Tradition fallacy and novelty fallacy

“fails to show that a certain conclusion of the recent report is better justified than an opposing conclusion reached in older studies”

20) Confusing part v. whole

"To put together this year's two All-Star Teams, the best players in the league were selected. Half of them were put on Team One, and half were put on Team Two. Since each player on the two teams was one of the best players in the league this year, it follows that the two All-Star Teams are the two best teams this year."

I also describe this is as 'falsey transfers attributes that can't be transferred' *Thanks keets993

PT17S3Q19 *Thanks keets993

"Of all the flowers grown in the university's botanical garden, the Oakland roses are the most beautiful. Since the university's botanical garden is the most beautiful . Since the university's botanical garden is the most beautiful garden in the region, the Oakland roses grown in the garden must be the most beautiful flowers grown in the entire region."

PT17S3Q16 *Thanks keets993

"assuming that because something is true each of the parts of a whole it is true of the whole itself"

PT62S2Q7 *Thanks LCMama2017

"This paragraph is long. So the sentences that comprise it are long."

21) Beliefs v. facts

22) Relies on people's opinions as fact

"a claim is inferred to be false merely because a majority of people believe it to be false"

Match the flaw

PT47S1Q23

“ignores the possibility that an increase in theta waves may not always be accompanied by a state of profound creativity”

PT51S1Q6

“It fails to take into account that what brings someone happiness at one moment may not bring that person happiness at another time”

PT51S1Q18

“overlooks the possibility that most people may have voted for small cities even though a large city received more votes than any other single city”

PT51S3Q4

“fails to consider that the total amount of money spent on education may be much greater than the total spent on sports”

PT51S3Q9

“fails to consider the possibility that the vehicle related fatality rates in other areas are also rising”

PT67S2Q9

"treats a statement whose truth is required for the conclusion to be true as though it were a statement whose truth ensures that the conclusion is true"

PT67S2Q21

"the argument fails to consider that bees might be present even in the absence of a particular condition that would ensure their presence"

More added by @samantha.ashley92

PT30S4Q8: "The argument presumes that no other evidence is relevant to the issue at hand"

PT30S4Q14: "It mistakes something that is necessary for its conclusion to follow for something that ensures that the conclusion follows"