A little over a week in 7sage I took a PT and improved by 3 points. I got a 157 a new personal best! With that said, I'm still having problems with the LR questions that ask something along the lines of the flaw in this argument best resembles... or the flaw in this argument is......these question types. Any pointers?

Okay so I did the 7Sage LSAT course and got fairly close to the score I wanted on the LSAT. I had 2 addenda (yes I made mistakes) but got the call a few months ago that I GOT IN!!!

anyways, do you think a 1L prep course is worth it? Should we learn a little background before we start this fall?

Hi I took a practice test today and scored 10 points lower than my last practice test and even lower than my diagnostic test...am I doing something wrong in my preparation?

My goal score is a 151, not too ambitious, I know. I am PTing still around 148, and BRing in the mid 150s, mostly 155. Diagnostic of 142.

I am sitting for February's test (I will take June if need be). So I take a PT, I BR it, other days I drill LR and FP. Somehow my RC is the highest, and 2nd is LG, and lowest is LR sects. But I'm drilling LR and only at like -4 or -5. And I'm drilling whole LR sections at 35 mins. What do I need to focus on? Continue LR drilling and working through those questions? I wish my PTs would be closer to my drilling of LR..

Hi @J.Y. Ping , I have come across a non-linear spacial game type . I need your suggestion on how to go about it. Since it is a different type of game so it must be having different way to interpret its rules . A sample of such a question is like this :

Admin edit: Removed full question. Please link to the PT instead of posting the stimulus as it is against our rules!

(Also please avoid thread titles in all caps, the admins are sensitive and don't like to be yelled at.)

Please guide me to tackle such misc questions and how to interpret the game board setup and interpret their rules.

Thanks and Regards,

Some ideas may be but not limited to scholarships, location, course variety and/or student life. Mines are:

I just did my kira interview for UT and cornell and I feel like a fell short on the video questions. I was wondering if sending a thank you for the opportunity/I could do better email would be a bad idea?

I missed question 4. I actually couldn’t pick an answer because they all appeared to work as I moved my l–n block around for each answer choice. I remember learning that when you have to go backwards in the chain that means those items on the other leg of the chain have no relation. So as I looked at my chain the l–n block had no relation to H, so I am missing the inference that I was supposed to pick up that indicated that nothing could be lower than H or that H had the 9 spot on lock down.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-4-section-3-game-1/

Ok so this question gave me a world of trouble. I looked up the explanation given on Manhattan and I think I get it but I need confirmation.

My main problem is that the explanation given doesn't seem to use the contrapositive (which I attempted to use) but rather 2 separate worlds for each one.

"In this world, you are either rich or poor, and you are either honest or dishonest. All poor farmers are honest. Therefore, all rich farmers are dishonest."

Now taking away the farmers part, the explanation went on to list the premises as:

R-->/P If you are rich, then you are not poor

/R-->P If you are not rich, then you are poor.

H-->/D If you are honest, then you are not dishonest.

/H-->D If you are not honest, then you are dishonest.

These don't line up as contrapositives but rather separate worlds it seems. When used with the conclusion though, you can reach AC A as the right answer.

R-->/P

/P->/H

/H-->D

R-->D

So am I on the right track? You treat the premises as separate worlds?

Hey all!

I took Sept 17, and got a decent score. Not the score I want or need. But the dilemma begins: how do you shake the "where do I go from here?" vibe?? I did decently, LR being my weak point, and I'm a very self-driven studier. My issue is that so many study plans are focused on starting from square one. I've done the CC twice, am now working with a tutor, but I sit at my desk and kind of just shuffle from one paper to the next. How do you get back into the groove? Having checked out some tips, I did watch a couple webinars, reviewed some CC, am working through the Trainer as a refresher, but I'm terrified of doing worse and learning the "wrong" way. Ay yai yai, help please!

Hi all, for schools like U Mich (where there’s no specific separate scholarship application process), how does the Darrow or other merit aid work if you are admitted in Jan or Feb? Thanks :)

Good evening beautiful people,

There is hope. I'm merely here to reiterate that.

Let me start off by saying: I am so tired. I've been in meetings and sitting all day, and didn't make it home until 6 pm. After making myself dinner, I opted to drill an old (and when I say old, I mean PT 11) LR section, even though I felt mentally drained.

Since I have not yet completed all of the LR modules in the CC, I didn't time myself - I'm ensuring that I'm able to give a logical reason for each answer choice I pick, on every question. Due to this, it took me an entire hour to finish just a SINGLE section. I blind reviewed the single question I had circled, and proceeded to grade the section.

Y'all-- I only missed 3 questions. ONLY 3!

Sure, it was an untimed section that took me 60 minutes to complete, but for me-- it's an improvement! Three months ago, before I started the CC on 7sage, I would miss anywhere from 9-11 questions on an untimed LR section, and it would take me even longer! I'm so enthused! Seriously!

Working full-time and working towards my law school dream has been mentally challenging, but today I feel so accomplished.

To everyone, and specially to those 7sagers working full-time: don't give up. Be resilient. Be brave!

It's so tough to study after a long work day, and the most arduous aspect of all of this may not even be your work schedule--but the people at work, or the tight deadlines. There are so many factors that affect our well-being, and even our ability to come home and be able to keep practicing and studying.

I love this community, I hope to be able to keep sharing my successes, and to share your successes as well.

I'm treating myself to the gym now. I need it! Sorry if my post doesn't make sense. I'm tired-- have I said that?

:D

Received an email encouraging me to take part in an optional interview from this school. They are not my first choice and probably will not even go if admitted. My question is two-fold. Why have been selected for the interview and what kinds of questions do they ask. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

To get a 170, do you think one should consistently finish all the questions in 30-32 mins? Which of course will allow some time to go back and double check answers that one is not 100% about. Should 170+ mastery allow for that? I’m trying to get my pacing down, and although I right at 35 mins for all the sections, I’m wondering if I should speed up a little.

Hi,

This might be a silly question but for D... It says "A scientific model that contains many elements is not a good theory"

And, on the premise, in order to be a good scientific theory your model needs to be simple enough to contain only a few elemnents...

From what I learned... Many is some ...

Is there difference between few and some?

When a rule says S is a higher number than N, is that S-N or N-S? Does higher mean lower?

My brain is in that weird place where I can feel myself over thinking..

like stuff it with tissues during the test?

First off I am so excited to be joining such a wonderful community! The positivity, I have already seen is so uplifting.

For the past few weeks, I have been in the valley of the LSAT. We all have peaks and from those we can definitely find glimmers of hope on the horizon, but I believe no more than when in the Valley! My LSAT journey so far has been abysmal and utterly disgusting. After graduating with a a degree in education and teaching the young minds of elementary aged children, I left the wonderful profession in May to dive head first into the massive ROADBLOCK called the LSAT. After taking a Kaplan Course and PTING consistently in the 158-161 range I thought man I am going to rock the LSAT and Hey Sweetheart, were moving to X place to go to X law school, pack up your bags and let's begin this new journey! Little did I know December would come and I would put out my worst score ever...lower that my Diagnostic a HORRIFIC AND TERRIFYING..........141. I was absolutely shocked and astonished, I remember spending hours contemplating the idiotic decision to leave a career that I was finding success and accolades come my way. But here I am...not at a pizza buffet like I have been for the past few months! I fell off the peak into the valley only to learn how I desire to see this piece and part of my life to be marked with a stamp of personal triumph and perseverance.

With the sob story behind, really...so sorry! I had to let it out finally! To those of you feeling discouraged please know that you are not alone, we see many a triumphs here and all around us. We all have the capability to find success in our endeavors, regardless of what this BEAST of a test spits out at us. To those of you beginning the journey or continuing the LSAT journey we truly have this! To those leaving this journey for your acceptance letters and plans of where and what next, I salute your dedication and hard work to slay the BEAST you are our inspiration!

Let's finish the race strong!

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Hello,

Does anyone know how seriously admissions considers gaps in your résumé when applying to law school?

I'm a recent graduate of my state school CU Boulder (May 2016). I was very involved in school, business fraternity, founded a social fraternity, student government, business case competitions, internships, and side jobs; I graduated with a 3.6 with a double in Finance, Accounting, and minor in Philosophy. Then I worked as an analyst for a management consulting firm in the energy industry for buying/selling power plants.

I had the job for a year, but quit because I wanted more time to study for the LSAT.

If I worked the job for a year and quit in August 2017 and apply to law school in September 2018; how much will admissions consider this one year gap in terms of my résumé? Is this a serious problem if I don't fill the gap between now and September?

Thank you for any advice!

So for necessary assumptions, the assumptions can be about the context, premise and conclusion? If the negation a statement attacks, say, the context of an argument, would this statement be a necessary assumption? Am I understanding this right??

The ThinkingLSAT podcast takes a strong stance on several issues that seem directly counter to 7sage forum advice.

In particular, they say that people should not care about time at all and should instead focus on understanding what they read and "figuring it out". Obviously there is some merit to that point, but it seems to be the opposite of this "skipping strategy" that many 7sagers recommend. Some high-scorers on this forum apparently try to work through an entire LR section in 25 minutes while skipping liberally along the way so that they can spend 10 minutes on the problems that were hard. Thinking LSAT would say that that approach encourages rushing and not thinking carefully enough and places too much energy and focus on timing and thinking about whether one should skip or not. Instead, going in order without skipping and trying your very best on each problem until you are truly stumped will produce a better score, even if you have to guess on whatever you don't get to.

Another issue they have strong opinions on is stimulus first. They assert that understanding the stimulus is the most important part of LR and that reading stem first can interfere with how one reads the stimulus and encourages a highly question type-specific approach that is inflexible. Just understand what you read and think about it critically; you can answer any question and you don't need to know the question ahead of time, is what they'd say.

What are your thoughts on ThinkingLSAT's positions?

PT19. S2. Q17

Hi everyone, I'm having trouble with this one. Here is how I diagrammed it.

premise1) devote to study natural process---- have leisure

premise 2) resources plentiful --- have leisure (------ note: i originally diagrammed premise 2 as the reverse of this statement but since it says "when" in premise 2 which introduces a sufficient assumption I changed it.

premise 3 + 4) early societies made complex discoveries - result of active study of natural process(/p)

I thought the answer was A) but its C. I thought it was A because when you combine premise 1 and 2 it creates a some statement between the two which I thought would be correct.

Can someone explain to me where I am going wrong.

Hi this may sound like a silly question but I want to make sure- I still haven't gotten my score back due to waiver appeal, but I see on other forums online that the real LR was sections 1 and 3. On my December test i had three LR reasoning sections, I believe they were sections 1,3 and 5 if i remember correctly. Not sure if I'm making this too complex, does that mean that for sure the first and third sections that I took were the real ones? I just didn't feel good about section 1, does that mean for sure it was the real section and not experimental or could i have been given the real sections in different order to take?

As the discussion title says, the Dec. 17 LSAT is now available for purchase on Amazon. Hopefully @"Dillon A. Wright" will soon put up the electronic version for 7Sagers.

Is there a difference between A --> (B-->C) vs A --> B or C

If so, what is the contrapositive of the A --> (B-->C)