I'm doing LG CC right now, and just had this one question I couldn't understand.

I spent an hour on that one question and got it, but it seems I'm not utilizing my time well.

Would it be a better use of my time to skip and watch the explanation video? or should I continue with holding onto one question for an hour like I just did? It's too exhausting... I was supposed to finish one more set... I don't think I can.

I'm just curious as to whether any of you go through the CC all the way through before taking another PT after having taken the diagnostic test in the beginning. If you do/did take PTs throughout the CC, how often do/did you take them and are there certain points within the CC that you think would be a good point to take one.

Hi all!

So.. I did the June Lsat. Bombed it horribly. Call me shocked when I get a hand-written looking note from WashU inviting me to visit (and offering to offset costs). I realize they probably mass send these things to whoever triggers something on their radar, because I haven't applied anywhere (retake in Nov).

But that's where I'm confused. My June LSAT sucked. Definitely not a #18 score. I have a really fantastic gpa and am first gen though, but everyone says that matters very little in comparison.

Can I just assume this is a mistake? What gives?

How do you learn the mistakes that you made from questions that you’ve gotten wrong on previous practice test? When I review them, I kind of feel like I don’t remember what I learned two weeks later. How do you get around this?

Hello all!

So I am trying to brainstorm various topics or events that I could write my personal statement about. There is one particular experience I had a while back that I am thinking could work well for me. During my first semester of college, I was experiencing some symptoms related to drug induced lupus where I would have severe joint pain to the point of not being able to get out of bed on one occasion. While this was going on, my father (who has never been a very emotional man) had a breakdown due to other family issues that landed him in the psychiatric ward twice over a two month period. It was a difficult situation, trying to stay upbeat while it was usually painful to walk long distances and while my family was having a hard time dealing with my father's situation. I also vividly remember trying to calm my father down when he was having overwhelming anxiety attacks at home between stays at the psych ward. I was able to remain positive and support my family emotionally while also working a part-time job and landing on the Dean's List that semester (although academically it was my worst semester).

While I think it could work well for a personal statement, I have seen some suggestions not to use stories or events that took place some time ago. While my specific life event did not occur in high school or earlier, it did occur in my first semester of college after graduating high school. My question is whether the fact that this event took place nearly four years ago will matter to adcoms? Are they looking for more recent personal development?

Thanks in advance for the help!

Does anyone know if Admissions Officers favor (weight) undergrad GPA's more so than graduate GPA's? Just curious if anyone has insight on this?

So I feel like I have a pretty solid understanding of the overall concepts from CC, but I've done 2 PT's post CC and received scores I'm terribly unhappy with (153 and 156) I am aiming for 165+ on the September LSAT and so I am asking for advice on whether i should go back to the CC or just continue PTing until the LSAT and hopefully my score will improve as I practice? I think my main issue is time atm because I am rushing to complete all the questions and thus compromising on accuracy. Once I BR my score improves by 5-6 points. RC is my weakest point but again it's mostly because of time, because i am averaging -1/-2 on RC when untimed... thanks for any advice!!

Hi 7Sagers,

I will be taking the July test next Monday. In my last few PT's, my scores have dropped from around 170 to 168, 167, 165. Previously I was averaging around 170. The last test I took was PT 84 and blind reviewed yesterday. To my dismay it was a 162. The tests I have taken over the past few months have been a combination of 40's and 50's tests and retakes of PT 60-83 as I have ran out of fresh new material. I believed PT 84 would be a good gauge of test day performance since it's a fresh test and so new. Now that I have seen this consistent drop I am unsure of my test taking ability and don't know what to do, resulting in major panic mode. I also work full time in addition to studying. I've been advised to stop studying altogether until the day of the test to prevent further burnout, but I am afraid to stop exercising my LSAT brain muscle a week before test day. Any advice is appreciated.

Hi everyone,

I am planning on taking the September LSAT and possibly applying ED to UC Davis if I manage to get a 160 because 7sage's law school predictor suggests that with ED I would have a 66% chance of admission. However, I also plan on taking the LSAT in November and I believe I will at least get a 163. That said, if I get admitted ED will they have less incentive to offer me more financial aid/ scholarship money? Making sure that I get into a good school is important to me, but getting the funds to go to said good school is also extremely important to me.

In summary: I don't want to apply ED if it might reduce my chances of getting a good financial package. Will it reduce my chances?

Thank you all.

Hi everyone,

I was hoping to get some insight on my chances of being admitted to Melbourne University for their JD program. I'm a student from Canada expecting to complete my degree with a low 70s and an LSAT score of low 160s.

Thanks for your help in advance!

Good evening,

I have been working on my law school application materials to apply ED. If I am set on attending a particular school, would it be wise to personalize all of the recommendations and essays to the school (UGA)? Also, how soon should I schedule a tour of the school after I apply?

Thank you so much!

I know selection games are not very common on recent LSAT tests, unless they're hybrid games, but I wanted to get some practice with them. If possible, can anyone tell me where I can find a list of each selection game present in all previous LSAT practice tests? Or what should I use to get the best practice on selection games?

Suits new season premiering just days before the July LSAT... coincidence? I think not!

If you are sitting in July, may your LSAT get Litt up.

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I am taking the July LSAT. I just took PT 84 and my score dropped significantly. I went from scoring up to 175 to mid 160s. RC was my worst section. I had RC down to -3 or less but this was just bad. Don't know how to feel about this.

Hello, all

I have my test scheduled for November 2018 and plan to apply December 2018

The schools I want to apply to have acceptance score averages of about 156.

At the moment I have only taken like 4 PT's and my scores ranged from 141-144. My BR has ranged from 149-151.

I obviously have not taken enough practice tests and I wonder if anyone can tell me straight up if I will have enough time to at least bump up my score to 150 by November. Also since i have taken only 4 PT's, is that like an accurate measure as to what I can aspire to score in the coming months?

Also how many PT's should I be doing a week?

Gracias!

What is everyone doing to prepare? Would anyone recommend taking a PT on Sunday (the day before) or leaving that day to clear your head?

Why is the answer to this question, D? The passage says that they sold the product for free, so how are we to know whether this includes shipping and handling? Is B not a more appropriate answer?

Explanation: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-74-section-4-question-24/

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Hey all!

Just wanted to let everyone know in advance that we will be having our discussion this week on Friday July 20th. The reason being is that JY himself, our mighty leader, is leading BR calls for PT84 (which was the June 2018 LSAT) this week from Monday to Thursday. So for those who took the June LSAT, or will be taking July in a couple of weeks, this is a great chance to BR with JY. Those who attended the RC webinar calls back in May know what an opportunity this is. Therefore, we will have our call on Friday to accomodate those who may want to attend. Sorry for the inconvenience! P.S. Did you see how I made an argument here with a conclusion and premises? It's not valid so it involves assumptions so don't come @ me in the comments.

Here's the link to the discussion https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/16810/pt84-br-sessions-with-j-y-lr-sections-only

Anyways, I hope you guys enjoy this EXTRA day to BR/drills/take a day off.

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The writers should be more like Terry.

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I've noticed that there are some LR question stems I can't identify. Can anyone help me out?

-Which one of the following principles is best illustrated by the study described above?

-Each of the following assignments of computer programmers is consistent both with the principle expressed by Vanessa and with the principle expressed by Jo EXCEPT:

-Which one of the following principles, if valid, most helps to justify the consumer advocate's argumentation?

I took PT 63 yesterday and scored on the low-end of my PT average (158). This is the same score that I got on my last 2 practice tests and I am starting to worry that there is something seriously wrong with my method. While my LG scores have increased from a -7 to a -1 in this time, my RC has gone down from a -9 to a -12, and my LR per section has gone down from a -6 to a -8.

To address my problems with RC, these last two weeks I did around 20 sections of RC, timed. Toward the end, I felt more confident in the section than I did two weeks earlier (-12). During practice, even for 5/5 diff passages I was able to swing a -1 in around 8 minutes. Come PT 63, no such luck. I struggled through the first two passages and then hit a tough science passage which ate up the rest of my time. I didn't even get a chance to read the last passage. All in all, the passages seemed more challenging than the ones that I had done previously - the structure was less straightforward and the arguments were more well-hidden in the superfluous-word-weeds. Is this just a factor of the increased difficulty of RC in more recent tests? How am I supposed to prep for this level of difficulty without wasting new material? Should I start drilling by section in RC? I am just really lost for the method of how to improve here. I know that RC is challenging to improve but it doesn't seem out of reach for me to improve from an average of -10 to a -5 for example.

Secondly, I also drilled all of the question types that I had a problem with in LR between each test. I watched my video of the latest PT and gained some valuable insight into where I was wasting time. I felt great about PT 63's LR sections actually but I totally bombed them. On the second LR section in the test I scored a -11 which is the lowest I've ever gotten in a LR section - even worse than my diagnostic a year ago. I don't feel hopeless, but it seems crazy to me that I can feel like I did well on a section and get a -11. Does drilling by question type actually work? If so, where does the emphasis need to be? Is it in the BR of those question types, or is it just by understanding the theory and then applying it quickly? Should I switch to section drilling for LR?

I realize there are more questions in here than one person really wants to answer, but if you have any insight into this type of score plateau I'd love to hear about it. If you feel that you have a good answer to any one of these questions please let me know :)

PS: I was wondering if consulting a tutor would be worth my time, maybe some of you can throw in your two cents about the tutors for 7sage if you worked with them and if they were worth the money.

I came across these two questions while I was practicing rules translation in sequencing LG and I can't seem to understand what "disallowing/allowing ties" mean:

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I know both seem the same when translated but I want to know what ties really mean in game rules and if they make any difference in translation.

I also did not get another example that I came through in translation:

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Why isn't it R... ___G? isn't the red card the one behind the grey car which means comes before?

I would appreciate any help with these three examples.

So I recently found a way of printing the questions from the question bank. While it is impractical and takes a little while it is worth while for reading comp questions. I use the Snipping Tool. This allows me to snip around the reading comp passage, copy it and then I paste it onto a word document. Then I do the same for all the questions that come with that passage. I am then able to re-adjust the passage and questions and then I simply print it out. Hopefully the LSAT ninjas don't come for me.

Admin edit: You can now print questions in PDF from the Question Bank:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/18378/new-feature-print-pdfs-of-custom-drills-from-the-question-bank

I'm in the process of fool proofing the games from PT 1-35. I'm only on PT 3 but I was wondering if it's ok to watch the explanation first, which is what I've been doing. Once I get more experience I plan to attempt the games on my own but for now is it ok to watch the explanation first? I've been averaging about 2 - 4 tries to foolproof a single game.

Hi friends!

Trying to stay cheerful after my trainwreck of a practice test today. I’m wondering if any other folks saw a drop between their diagnostic test score abd their first practice test score (after completing the core curriculum).

I’m planning on taking the September test, but today’s results have me freaked out about whether I’ll be scoring where I want to be by test day.

I didn’t feel as alert/“on” during today’s test as I did for the diagnostic. I also think I was trying too hard to use things I learned from the CC that it slowed me down further. Timing was definitely a big issue as I didn’t finish any of the sections.

Words of wisdom/encouragement to help keep the hope alive will be greatly appreciated. :(

Forgive me if I sound like a geriatric, but how easy of a process is transferring PT video footage from an I-Phone to a computer?