Hello everyone.

I'm feeling a little bit lost here. I took the June 2018 LSAT and I didn't get the score I wanted. Prior to that I read all of the Powerscore bibles and did a bunch of practice tests. I was scoring better on the practice tests than I did on the actual LSAT so when I got my score I was shocked to say the least. Now I've started studying for the September test with 7Sage and it's great but it feels redundant to watch all of these lessons when I kind of know most of it already from previous prep. Does anyone have any tips for me to maximize my usage of this course without feeling like I'm wasting valuable time, because September is right around the corner. Also I'm enrolled in the starter pack. Thanks in advance for the advice!

Is there a way to make the analytics accurate (total percentage ) if you only do certain sections from a test . For example for pt 52 I did 2 sections but it scored the ones I didn’t do as incorrect .

Hey all! I've seen a lot of questions about RC recently so I thought I'd share something I've noticed.

I've read, analyzed, and written quite a few papers and I've noticed that despite what it might feel like, RC passages do adhere to certain rules for good writing. More specifically, RC passages contain topic sentences!

Topic sentences are sentences, generally at the beginning of the paragraph, that outline the structure of the paragraph. They are kind of the "road map" or main point of the paragraph. The same can be said of the last or second-last sentence of a paragraph. The last sentence either serves as a summary of the paragraph or function as a transition to the next one.

The point is, I've found that (in the small sample size of RC passages I've tried this with) there's always one sentence in a paragraph - whether it's in the beginning, middle or end - that accurately states what the function or purpose of the paragraph is. Identifying that sentence is a good way of coming up with a low/high res summary. You can simply shorten it up or paraphrase it as your low res and add in the details to make it high res. By combining the topic statements for each of the paragraph's in a passage, you come up with a pretty good summary of the passage as a whole. This also allows you to keep your summary low-res and not get confused by all the details.

For example, "Some animals need human intervention to prevent a sharp decline in population. For example, foxes are the natural predators of a specific species of birds - ones that tend to subsist primarily on plants - despite the fact that these birds feast on plants that are sometimes toxic to the immune system of foxes. Foxes that consume these birds, and as a result are exposed to chemicals toxic to their immune system, become violently ill and in some cases, passed away. The foxes that do survive do not build a tolerance to the toxins nor do they alter their diets. Scientists have proposed a dramatic ...."

This was just something I made up but here the topic sentence is "some animals need human intervention to prevent a sharp decline in population." You can make it low-res by focusing on keywords like "some animals need human intervention" or "human intervention."

Let me know if this helps people out!

I just got a 159 on the international June test

My diagnostic was 163. I had been PTing around 173. I am careful with checking bubbling and have not misbubbled in the past. I remember making sure the bubbles lined up with question numbers as I took the exam. I walked out of the test feeling reasonably good.

I did test with a 2B pencil, not a normal #2 pencil, because in the country where I took the exam, I couldn't find any normal #2 pencils. I don't know if this might've messed something up? Or something else?

I just don't get it. Even on my worst test days, I never scored in the 50s. Ever.

Should I pay $100 to handscore, even though that $100 will make money quite tight for me (but not as tight as doing the test all over again)? Or should I accept that this happened and move on and take the test next year (can't take it again this year because I can't afford to and I don't have the study time available at this point)?

Hello - Is there a way to download the analytics you get after you score a PT? I would love to have an Excel spreadsheet with all that data so I can sort it on my own to see what I can focus on, etc.

Hey everyone- what advice would you give to someone that is struggling to grasp conditional logic in a fast mechanistic way (what we need on the lsat) . I’m thinking of grabbing all the indicators and writing them out onto a sheet (I’ve written out notes on valid / in valid forms ) but it didn’t click. Review the cc ?

Hey all,

I just completed PT 51-- and I have a huge gap btw my Timed and BR Score. It seems I'm mostly struggling with LR and RC.

*LR

Section 1

Timed - 15/25

BR - 24/25

Section 2

Timed - 18/25

BR - 24/25

*RC

Section 3

Timed - 20/28

BR - 25/28

*LG

Section 4

Timed - 22/22

Any advice or suggestions would be much appreciated - especially with respect to LR and RC. Thank you so much!! Very grateful.

Just got my LSAT score, I gave it for the second time and scored a 165. My first attempt was a 157. I'm not satisfied with my scores since my PT average was a 175, but I have severe anxiety problems and had to rush to the bathroom twice during the test because I felt like I was going to throw up, so this score was only natural. I'm planning to give it again (my last and final try), but Asia has only two more test dates for this cycle- October and January.

October is a tad bit early in my opinion, but I can make it work. I don't need to go over the CC again since I've thoroughly studied it twice now. I'll just start PT-ing from this Saturday.

I was curious if January was too late for this cycle. I'm also worried about burnout, since this will be my third time and I'm already very disheartened. Thoughts?

Good evening,

I already have individuals who have agreed to write letters of recommendation for me. In addition to my resume, what other information should I send to my LOR writers? They have interacted with me a good bit, but don’t know everything about me. What suggestions do you all have for information that I should get to these individuals?

Thank you so much in advance!

Hi, so I've been plateauing in the high 160s for a while and I'm studying for the September LSAT. I've been jumping around for PTs and so far I"ve done like 30 but haven't touchedI77-80s and there are a bunch in the high 46-50s I haven't done. Is someone down to BR some of those PTs? I work full time, but I'm going to start taking three day weekends. So I'm going to take the test Friday morning and try to BR 1/2 sections Friday afternoon, the rest on Saturday and maybe do some drills on Sunday, but I could BR too. Does that schedule line up with anyone else's and would anyone maybe want to skype to BR? I'm in Queens NY so let me know!

Hi guys, I'm just about done with the Core Curriculum (93%), and will be finishing it within the next few days. I am planning on taking the September LSAT, but I wanted to get some opinions. do you think after finishing the CC I should immediately take a diagnostic to see where I stand, or should I continue with the LR and LG drills assigned after the CC then go ahead and start taking tests? My goal is to just continue to take tests and strengthen my skills from now till September. I feel I understood LG and RC really well and did well on the problem sets, but the thing I struggled with the most was LR, and I obviously want to improve my speed and timing overall.

Thanks for your advice

I just want to celebrate with y'all. I'm writing the July LSAT, and the last few weeks have been bleak. I hit a high of 169 two weeks ago. My next 8 PTs dropped as low as 161, and my average went even lower than it was before I hit the 169. Finally, after changing up my study methods, I finally hit a 169 again on Thursday. So I waited to see if this was a fluke or if I could sustain my progress. My practice test from last night hit my all time high of a 173 under testing conditions. Of course I'll be focusing on my average test score, but I'm incredibly excited to hit (and exceed) my goal of 170 on a PT for the first time.

I've benefited so much from what others have shared. I figured I would take a moment to share the things that I have found the most helpful since I've recently seen a lot of people posting about being in the same situation.

Like so many others have said, you can't just take PT after PT after PT if your score isn't improving. When I was trying to take as many PTs as I could in a week, my score didn't improve. Only when I cut back on PTs and instituted other ways of practice and review did I start seeing improvements.

I was bombing RC because I wasn't spending enough time on the front end. After I started spending 3 or 3:30 on the passage instead of 2:30 or 3, the questions flew by and with better accuracy because I was so much more familiar with the passage.

My attention span was horrible, especially during LR and RC. So, I started meditating and using my phone less. I'm the kind of person who checks their phone every 5 minutes, and by cutting back on that I trained my attention span to be much longer than before which improved my comprehension SO much. I even made sure that when I was doing something like watching a movie or eating, I wasn't constantly getting distracted by my phone or laptop.

I read the economist to feel more comfortable with science, technology, and economics passages that I'm not familiar with. (The plight of the liberal arts major, am I right?) I practiced making low resolution summaries, figuring out the authors point of view, predicting the course of the article, and analyzing the relationships between paragraphs. It seems like people have mixed feelings about this strategy, but I found that my RC got SO much better when I do this regularly.

For LR I cut out 7 practice tests worth of questions and put the answers on the back. I then sorted them by question type to drill as flashcards with immediate feedback. LR went from -11 to as low as -4 (total) when I did this.

Just thought I'd share. Good luck to everyone else getting ready to take the July test!

Over the course of 2 years I took the LSAT 3 times and studied my ass off. I spent countless hours learning, reading this forum and taking PT's... I had an excellent tutor @Sami (even though I'm a bad student). I wanted to say thank you to everyone who contributes to this forum, Sami and 7Sage as a whole.

End result: I got about $450 a semester shy of a full ride to my choice law school and couldn't have done it without you guys.

Can anyone explain to me how the answer for this question is (b) and not (e)? I cannot convince myself that (e) is not the right answer. Saying (b) is the right answer seems like a bit of a stretch to me. Someone please help!

I've taken some formal logic classes in the past and am familiar with some of the rules they use. I've really been struggling with parallel reasoning questions so I've returned to studying valid categorical syllogisms. Long story short, I've encountered some areas in formal logic which seem to contradict the lawgic lessons of 7sage.

For example, universal negative propositions (No S is P) can be diagrammed in lawgic S ---> ~P. This form of diagramming and the 7sage lessons imply that P ---> ~S is a valid inference (contraposition). In formal logic, however, this is not a valid form of contraposition. You can contrapose No S is P to infer that some non-P is not non-S (with limitation).

I don't mean to get this deep into formal logic but this contradiction is apparent from even a shallow review of valid syllogism forms.

Am I missing something? Or are there areas on the LSAT that do not conform to formal Aristotelian/Boolean logic?

Is there anyone else that has studied formal logic deeply and successfully applied it to the LSAT?

bummed out! Debating on whether to go through the CC one more time and give it another shot in November. Is it possible to go up 10 -15 points from here to November?

Hey guys,

Do you guys have any tips for what to do during times that you feel like you're stuck in a bad place mentally? I have been suffering with my mental health for a while (generalized anxiety disorder and depression). Are there any tips or routines y'all could share with me? I'd love to know what helps you guys out :)

Can anyone break this down?

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Hello,

I am a non traditional student, out of college for over ten years now. I was hoping to just take the july LSAT but its looking like my schedule has definitely impeded my studying. If i took the test in November so i can really take the proper time for PTs would that be putting me at a disadvantage admissions wise? I already have a bit of an uphill battle due to a low UGPA.

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Hi everyone,

I am done with core cirriculum and have taken 4 practice tests now (35-39) and have somehow managed a 158 on all 4 despite blind review on each. I have ample time to study, could I reasonably expect to get up to the mid to high 160s?

Hey all,

So I was an acting major in college, completely new to binge study sessions like the ones you need for the GRE and LSAT, however, I studied for around four months and got a 158- Verbal and 154- Q for GRE. Math was my worst subject, so passing the 50th percentile mark was cathartic for me. As I've been studying English and classical texts for the majority of my life, I never really focused on improving that score, since it was already fairly high percentile-wise.

This, now, brings me to the LSAT. If I converted the GRE to the LSAT on ETS' little calculator, I get a score of 161. Now, from what I've been reading, that's a reasonably good score, and qualifies as the mean score for several of the t-35 schools. My GPA was a 3.4 (because acting, amirite?) and I wanted to get anybody's thoughts on whether or not I should study for the LSAT and improve in that regard, or just apply using my GRE score, if 161 would be too high to attain on my own. I haven't done a diagnostic test, but I'm worried that I'll have to study for another four months for the November LSAT or further just to attain a score that's pretty close to the 161 equivalent GRE exam that I took. Thoughts?

Also, If I'm in that range already, which schools seem reasonable to apply for and which would seem like stretch goals? There's so much noise about how to about this fresh, it's making a newbie like myself a bit hesitant in taking a step in any direction.

Personal experiences welcome, brag about it, let me know what you went through!

Best,

Michael

Hi long time lurker and would really appreciate any perspective that people have!

I have been studying for a while now (took February, retaking in July so two weeks away now) and still am too slow on LG. I usually am ~1-3 minutes off target time especially on the harder games, which obviously adds up though with that extra time I am -0 to -3 on most games sections. LG is the only section where I continue to struggle with time.



Does anyone have any strategies on the question order you answer in, eliminating all answers versus trusting you have the right answer, looking for the right answer versus eliminating the wrong, or anything else that they have found saves them time?

Similarly, if anyone has advice on how to spend my last two weeks with LG drills that would be immensely appreciated as well. Given the limited time left, I am trying to figure out how to prioritize my studying/which games to work on, etc. I feel one of my continuing weaknesses is figuring out the game too late into the game, i.e. by the time I finish the game I have all the necessary inferences but I did not see them off the bat. I am fine to dedicate most of my study time to LG as I am consistently scoring where I would like on LR and feel like CR is a relatively futile studying situation for me.


Thank you so much in advance and please let me know if I can provide any further information.

Hi there, I was wondering if anyone has any advice for what I should study 8 weeks out? I have already completed the entire LSAT unlocked handbook by Kaplan, and really just need extra practice on Logic Games, Assumptions and Argument - based questions. I work full time, so I only have 6 to 10 hours a week I can put into studying. Please let me know what you think. Thanks!

I am planning on (re)starting my LSAT studies soon for the November 17th, 2018 LSAT. This will give me about 4-5 months of FULL time studying. With that considered, which package should I buy?

Here is a little background info about myself in case it helps you answer my question.

Cold Diag 138.

Highest PT of 152

Official Score of 147 (studied for about 1 month, was very busy with full time job)

I am aiming for 160-165 , do you all believe this is possible to obtain with 4-5 months of full time studying?

Please feel free to drop any pointers, tips, and pieces of advice that might help me on my 4-5 month study journey.

Thanks all!