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It's been awhile since I have done one of these, mostly because I took the REAL FREAKING LSAT last Saturday. Today I've decided to go with a theme I've seen pop up a bit on these forums recently.

Every single person on this planet is unique. We have all been forged in the crucible of life by different experiences, situations, opportunities and struggles. One person might face strife one day and endearment the next; while another faces love and then disappointment. What we cannot do is lose perspective of life and ourselves. Each person has a unique life story that is so personalized, so individualized, that it creates who they are. To compare ones life to another is futile because they are so disproportionately different from each other. What is hard for one person may come naturally to another, not because that person is inherently better, but simply because their life circumstances were better suited for that particular challenge. It's not fair to belittle the person who has a harder time, because I promise you they are better equipped to handle something that you are not. It's also not fair for the person who struggled to belittle themselves; just because it came easy to someone else does not mean you are incapable of achieving the same results.

Once we are able to stop comparing ourselves to others then things become more clear. Your personal challenges become evident. It is then up to you to focus on what you need to do to achieve your goals. I believe you will find the challenge much more manageable once you stop trying to be like everyone else. You can see your own weaknesses, you can personalize a path to your goal, and you can kill self-doubt because you are no longer worried you are "behind" or "unskilled" or "incapable". Then this is where people can begin to rely on each other. Once we know ourselves and our own strengths and weaknesses we can begin to offer help to others, and to take advice. We need to be able to admit that we are not amazing in every aspect of our lives and be willing to listen to others, while simultaneously offering our own wisdom and advice to those that need it.

John is 22 years old, fresh out of undergrad, a single Dad who works full time and is great at Logic Games.

Susan is a 42 year old mother of 3 who was once an accountant but wants to switch to the legal field and is a master at Reading Comp.

Both of these two want a 180....

Why wouldn't they help each other? These two people stand to gain everything by working together and stand to lose nothing. Stop getting lost in the competitive game of trying to be better than others and start helping each other.

Each and every one of you who took the time to read this is an amazing individual. You have the potential to be whatever, and whomever you want to be. It might not come easy, it might be a challenge, but you can still accomplish it. Look into other peoples lives only to help them and lift them up, never look down on them. The LSAT is one challenge we all have in common and we all struggle in our own way. Let's use this as a way to bond and to grow as individuals and not as a way to prove we are "better" than someone else.

I give you this seal....to do whatever you want to do.

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So I am a weird bundle of splitter mess, I really want to start getting applications ready but I'm just not sure where I stand and where I can apply. While predictor websites are a good start they also don't take into account my story. I don't want to short change myself but I also don't want to reach so high as to be disappointed. So I'm here to ask for advice.

Notwithstanding my LSAT score this is what I look like so far...

2.7 cumulative GPA/4.0 Degree GPA - about a 4 year gap of time between the poor grades and the 4.0.

Non-traditional applicant - Work experience between undergraduate and starting law school.

Military service for 4 years (USMC) with 3 years of my post 9/11 GI bill left (Don't really need scholarship money).

One year internship at a law firm.

One year job with the federal courts.

Letters of recommendation from one undergrad professor and the clerk of the federal court.

Resume includes legal professionals as well as military members.

How would you even go about deciding on what schools will look favorably on this weird track record? I feel like it's almost 100% dependent on my LSAT score...so should I just wait tight for that?

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I am beginning to wonder what kind of impact my extracurricular activities might have on my law school applications next year. (Definitely hoping to apply to HYS, Columbia, NYU and UChicago, plus University of Toronto and Osgoode Hall in Canada).

So far, here's what my profile looks like (for context):

  • Major: Computer Science, Minors: Psychology and Classics. 3.75 GPA right now, 3.80-3.85 is definitely on the horizon. I just started 3rd year.
  • I just got started with the LSAT so don't know how that will go yet. I don't mind putting in a year of prep to hit the score I need though (or even 2 years, I'm not in a rush).
  • Would the following help in compensating for the lack of a prestigious undergrad degree? (I am at one of the lower ranked universities in Canada because I couldn't afford to go anywhere else):

  • I did Google's Summer of Code internship.
  • I currently work remotely for a tech company called Zulip (based in California)
  • I've contributed (as a volunteer) to various open source software projects for the last 5 years
  • I worked at an Atlantic Canadian law firm over the summer.
  • I have worked a bunch of odd jobs all throughout school. I worked all throughout school (didn't have a choice). Still do!
  • Participating in my first National Mooting competition in Canada in November
  • Would really appreciate advice and guidance from former applicants and people in the process of applying to law schools! :)

    Thanks!

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    Hey guys

    I've been grinding through the curriculum for the past two months and am on track to finish by the end of September. I was wondering if someone has in their possession a study plan for me to use that they personally STRICTLY abided by in order to maximize their learning. I will be sitting for the December LSAT and I would like to take as many practice tests as I can and drill as much as I can. I have all of the tests on record and the cambridge packets (for drilling my weak spots) in my possession. I just want to study as efficiently as possible.

    Thanks guys!

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    Hi all!

    I have a silly question that I couldn't answer on my own, and I feel it's worth the risk of looking foolish on here just to ensure I end up submitting this application correctly. I'm applying to Colorado Law and they have a somewhat specific prompt with a part 1 and an optional part 2. Here are the instructions from their website:

    The personal statement requirement provides you an opportunity to present yourself to the Admissions Committee. It is to be submitted with your electronic LSAC application. The personal statement for fall 2018 is below. Your essay must be in your own words, double-spaced, and should not exceed 1,000 words. Supported file formats include: doc, htm, html, txt, PDF, wp, wpd, rtf, wps, wpt and docx.

    Personal Statement Prompt for 2018

    At Colorado Law, we seek students who advance our core values of character, diversity, leadership, and commitment to service.

    Part 1: Explain how you can contribute to these goals. You may also discuss any other factors that you think may assist the Admission Committee's evaluation of your application, such as: background information; experiences, talents or special interests; adversities you have overcome; and your reasons for applying to law school.

    Part 2: (Optional): In considering applicants for scholarship awards, Colorado Law considers not only academic merit, but also economic need and obstacles, personal background, and a wide variety of individual qualities, so you may submit a statement of up to 500 words on any one or more of the following: (a) aspects of your upbringing, life experiences, work or service experiences, or education that you believe set you apart from most law school applicants; (b) economic disadvantage or other obstacles you have overcome in pursuing your education or career thus far and in applying to law school; (c) how you think you will contribute to society with your law degree; and/or (d) your financial need for increased money to fund your legal education.

    So, it seems that one could interpret this in one of two ways:

  • One essay consisting of (part 1+ part 2) that together do not exceed 1,000 words or
  • Two separate essays consisting of a 1,000 word limit for part 1 and a second, separate essay with a 500 word limit for part 2
  • Additionally, if I decided to forego the optional part 2 portion, that would mean I could use the 1,000 words all on part 1.... right?

    What are your thoughts? The main reason I'm putting so much weight on this being correct is because of this Q&A with Colorado admissions and USN which just got me all worked up:

  • What are some of the most common mistakes that applicants make that hurt their chances of being accepted?
  • The most common mistake applicants made is failing to follow instructions, which differ from school to school. Some applicants ignore deadlines and fail to pay attention to details, such as addressing our specific essay topics in their personal statements or not submitting our two required recommendation letters.

    So yes, any words of wisdom you guys have on the matter would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance :)

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    Hi Fellow Sagers!

    I'm enrolled in the Admissions Course and I didn't see a section about law school in-person interviews - unless I'm missing something?

    Have one coming up soon..does anyone have intel on what materials is appropriate to bring to one besides resume? Does bringing a copy of my personal statement make sense? Any tips if you've been on one?

    Appreciate any insight! :)

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    So I haven't gotten my score, but I'm quite confident that I didn't do as well as I had hoped. I've registered for the Dec test already and I guess I'm currently taking the week off (3 days left) before I get back into it.

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    I had a solid routine for 4 months. Wake up at 5:45am and study for an hour on the train to work. Once at work around 7:30 I would study until around 9:00am, then I would work until around 12:30 and take an hour lunch on which I would study for about an hour. I then would finish my day at work and study for an hour on my way home. That means I was putting about 4.5 hours of studying into the LSAT Monday - Friday. Saturday mornings of course were PT's which took me about 3.5 hours or so. So on average I studied about 26 hours a week. That's 104 hours a month, or 416 hours of studying total for those 4 months.

    Then on Saturday that all stopped and I don't know what to do with myself....like seriously there is a huge void in my life now...I almost want to keep studying. I am a man who likes his routines and now....what do I even do...

    If I have to retake in Dec I'll pick right back up where I've left off...but if not...now what! O_O

    (btw this test became an obsession if you can't tell)

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    Curious on what people think.

    My opinion is no since the average age is somewhere like 24-25 (or so I read somewhere) - however for those going at 26 you presumably won't graduate until 29-30 - could those "big law" jobs potentially go to younger candidates with the same qualifications?

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    I am sure we all have spent a little too much time poring over the median admission stats for our top choices and studying the spreadsheets of the info of all admitted students...and then comparing our own data and trying to figure out what it takes to get a little (or a lot) $$.

    SO I thought it would be fun for us to share stories of people we know who have worked hard, gotten into their dream schools, and bonus points if they got a scholarship. I'll start!

    I know a guy who went to a little-known undergrad school and applied to law school in two cycles. First year he got a full ride with a high 160s LSAT score to the University of Washington but wasn't feeling Seattle...he retook the LSAT the following September, got a low 170s and applied that cycle to most of the T14...and then retook the LSAT again in December, got a high 170s score and Harvard and Stanford admitted him almost immediately, which could have been coincidental timing buuut I doubt it. He went with Harvard. I wish I knew the exact stats, but to ask always feels just a little too nosey.

    So moral of the story...don't be afraid to keep working for that high score because it will pay off!

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    Hey guys,

    I was wondering what PTs people used to master the logic games using the fool proof method? I would like to be time efficient and if there are certain tests that will help me master them at the beginning, I would love to start with those. Nonetheless, I will eventually do 2-3 logic games or a LG section per day leading up the test.

    I know there's a LG bundle, however I plan to write in December and would like to use the next two weeks to get close to my target score for that section (-2/-1). So basically, I'd like to know if there are certain preptests (ie.18-35) that may assist me in this. I struggle with timing for the most part with LG right now, and also have trouble with the games that have FL/conditional reasoning.

    Any suggestions? Let me know what you guys have tried and what has worked for you.

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    Okay I need an honest opinion from you all. My freshman year, literally my first weekend, I received a citation for drinking on campus, police were not involved, it was only campus RAs. Super dumb, I kick myself for it all the time.

    I ended up working in the Dean of Students office during my undergraduate studies. So I asked the Dean if I should disclose that incident when applying to law school and he advised me not to if it's not listed on my official transcript. I ordered an official, sealed transcript and $15 later I realized that nowhere on my transcript does it mark any disciplinary action and lists me to be in good standing after every single semester.

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    I got CAS about a week before taking the Sept. LSAT and I requested my undergrad school transcript through it. It still says my transcript is pending. I haven't started apps on LSAC yet...could this be why?

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    Now that I've completed the LSAT... what do I do?

    I get that I should start working on my applications and PS/LORs. I'm just completely unmotivated in all honesty. Even though I really want a good portion to be done before the score comes out incase I need to retake. Has anyone else had the post LSAT slump to try to shuffle through? Particularly with the needing to get on top of your applications?

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    I'm just curious if these emails from different law schools mean they are actually interested in you, or are they just trying to pad their wallets and stats. My GPA is decent and I hope I did well on the September lsat, but the only other thing they know about me is I am old as hell. The NYU email made me decide to post this, but for all I know everyone in the lsac system received the same one. Any insight or experiences would be appreciated.

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    Spoiler alert: Doesn't break the bank.

    I had a bad habit of using my eraser on LG so I........dramatically took the eraser off my pencil. Took a couple times of me still flipping the pencil over but now I'm crossing out instead of erasing (and actually making less mistakes).

    Namaste.

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