I was wondering if anyone has encountered a similar LG to PT34.S4.G2? It's the game that talks about different lectures/ speakers/ philosophers... The wording of that game really threw me off the first time. I wanted to get practice with other confusingly worded questions like that one.

Would appreciate any help team!

Just did an RC drill of PT 53.

Actually not bad considering RC is my most least practiced section. 20/27.

Stats were:

-5 Infer questions

-2 Application questions

Majority were in the final section. I wouldn't attribute it to rushing because I had a good 12.30ish minutes to complete the final reading section alone, so I felt decent on time. The questions themselves were quite difficult. I also feel like application questions have a dimension similar to inference questions in that you aren't directly finding concrete reference to the passage, and if you are, then it's not as explicit as you wish it to be.

How do you generally approach inference questions? Some tips would be lovely.

Thx

I'm a month into LSAT Prep and took my first practice test a couple weeks ago with a 156. I find the material learnable but definitely think that improving my performance on logic games, in particular, is going to be a very strenuous process. I wouldn't be able to sit until June of 2018 or January of 2019 due to logistical constraints. So I was wondering if it's worth getting a GRE score in beforehand considering the recent changes in admissions policies. Is it that much easier/shorter of a preparation process?

I've been told that it's limited to reading comprehension, writing, vocabulary, and geometric/algebraic concepts, which seems like much less daunting of a process. And I could still look into taking the LSAT at a later date. I'd also have more opportunities to take the exam, considering I'll be abroad and my host country only offers the LSAT twice a year.

I know it's limited to only a select few schools, but Harvard and Northwestern would literally be my two dream schools. And I'd be just as ecstatic with Georgetown. I'll be on a Fulbright for ten months starting in January and will be working in financial services for at least a year. I am also intrigued by having the opportunity of pursuing an MBA or a joint degree program down the line. I have a 3.98 GPA under a more math-intensive undergraduate degree than most pre-law students. I also came across an Economist article that implied that above a 3.87 threshold, schools don't even have to report the GRE score (source: https://gre.economist.com/gre-advice/graduate-school-admissions/which-exam-take/gre-vs-lsat-which-exam-should-you-apply-harvard-law). Thus, would you guys think it might be in my best interest to get a GRE score in over the next few months before the LSAT?

Hey all,

Since the LSAT scores have come out, I've received fee waivers from some pretty prestigious schools. Like schools that my LSAT score is below the median (my GPA is above most of theirs tho). Like, I just got one from UChicago.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN!? Is it an indicator you have a decent chance of acceptance?

Does it mean they like me and I might get accepted :'(? The e-mail says I've demonstrated a "strong academic record." What does it meeeeeeaaaan?!

Could it be true that C and E are not the correct answers due to the following reasons?

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C ) The stimulus doesn't discuss about architect in general, but specific architect (modern architect)

E ) Instead of work (object), the stimulus suggests that people (modern architect) have strong personalities that take over their work, which in turn leads to producing buildings that are not function for public use. This could mean that modern architects are impossible to simultaneously express his or her personality and be function for public use

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My diagram:

Inviting + Functional --> Unobstructive (taking 2nd place to total environment)

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Modern architects (=MA)

MA --> /Unobstructive (taking 2nd place to total environment) --> /Inviting or /Functional

MA --> Strong personalities take over work --> /Functional

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Thank you in advance!

Hello sagers,

I want to make sure my application is perfect and idk if it would be a good idea to , I guess, pay someone to help me make sure it's solid, that I'm applying at the correct time and all, or if I need to retake, etc. Does 7sage offer these services? If not, is it against the rules here to offer to pay someone who is experienced to help?

My GPA is a 3.25, LSAT is a 169 (third take). I want a shot at USC UCLA and UCI (last choice). I was thinking I either apply now to all, or apply to UCI and retake for the others.

Thanks

Hey guys. So I just got my score, hit a 169 I'm pissed I missed one extra question and a 170 :/ but also ecstatic. My scores have been a 157, 159, 169. My GPA is 3.25.

I want in at UCI, which I think I'm golden for. I also want USC which I'm sure I have a higher chance of not getting accepted...right? Is USC an option at this point?

Thanks

Got this question right because of process of elimination, but I don't quite understand why A is the right answer?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-21-section-2-question-15/

Hi, Im still getting the hang of using this website and the course that I signed up for. But I would like to print just copies of LR and practice what I have been learning. Also im only up to the grammar section of my cc.

Can anyone clarify why E is correct?

I chose E indirectly after eliminating other four answer choices.

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Explanation for other answers:

[DIAGRAM]

Artist --most-> Hold less insightful political views than well educated non-artist

Artist statement --few-> Artistic talent =/= Political insight

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[ANSWER CHOICES]

A ) Non-artist?

B ) Thorough education?

C ) Again, non-artist?

D ) Politicians?

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Thank you in advance!

As soon as I was done with my last section for September LSAT, I knew I had messed up. It was one of those tests that something wrong had happened and I had frozen up. That's never good, I remember thinking. As I walked to the car with my boyfriend holding my hand telling me how hard LR section had been, I suddenly stopped him and said, lets not talk - I feel sick.

Cut to three weeks of waiting and I knew there was no way I had performed my average. My average leading up to the test had been a 170 and I knew I had underperformed. I had felt sick but nothing could have prepared me for how I felt. When I saw that email from LSAC my hand started trembling. I opened it and it was a 164. I got up and made tea. I could hear my boyfriend in the study room talking to his friend about how he was still waiting for his score -I didn't know how I was ever going to tell him this.

So I took my tea and went to my room, locked the door from inside, and cried. I cried for an hour and after a lot of insistence opened up the door to let my boyfriend and dog in. Both of whom knew something was wrong and were waiting for me outside.

I cried a lot last night. I had cried not because 164 is a bad score but I had not performed what I had been performing. I cried because I knew I could do better but I had nothing to show for it. I cried because I had expected more from my score and myself and I had taken PT's correctly with a 10 point difference but my score reflected that I wasn't even close to that range. I felt defeated.

But after a long crying session, I got up and said, lets go out and eat dinner and celebrate your high 170 score. Just because I underperformed does not mean we don't get to celebrate your achievement. So I put on a dress and went out to eat. I ordered dessert first before my meal. I got the most decadent chocolate cake that was filled with chocolate moose - and I ate it. I sometimes cried while eating it but I ate it. I wanted to remind myself of this night and how awful it felt.

I wanted to tell my story because I know at least some of us were where I was last night. We were sad and we felt disheartened. I wanted to be honest because there is something healing about honesty. I hope this story helps anyone who feels alone and feels like they let themselves down. You are not alone. I also want to tell you do not be disheartened. Failures are a part of life and life is all about defeating what holds us back. I want to tell you I am here for you. Yesterday, I couldn't' have done this without my boyfriends support. I realize how vital it is and I am grateful I had someone who knows about LSAT - someone who gets it. So if you need to talk or study or just need anything - I am here for you (3. I know how lonely and sad it feels to not meet your expectation and how much that can hurt. It can really hurt. But you are not alone and we will get through this.(/p)

Today, I woke up in the morning at 5:30 am. I had been sleeping till 8 am lately because I had slacked off and I now can no longer afford that. I want to score my average and I will not let LSAT defeat me.

Today, I also set new goals for my LSAT prep that I hope will help me do better in upcoming December test. I plan on doubling down and eradicating anything in my life that does not give me a high return on my LSAT study time. I plan to increase my average to a 175 and up - so if I underperform again, I can still have a high score. I plan on never giving up. More importantly, I plan on being here for everyone who needs me to be there for them.

This thread is for you.

Lots and lots of love,

Sami

My plan is to blanket the T14 schools with no expectations of acceptance. As far as I can tell, my best shot is University of Austin Texas (or #14). According to the LSAC GPA/LSAT browser, applicants with my GPA and LSAT had between a 54% and 64% chance of getting accepted into Austin in 2016. The same people only had between 27% and 40% chance of getting into Cornell, which #13.

If I get accepted into any one of them, I'll go. If not, I'll take the LSAT again in June 2018 and hopefully beef up my resume along the way.

My personal issue is that I don't actually know the national reach of a lower T14 school; this is especially a concern for Austin. I don't know where I want to practice, and I haven't evaluated any job markets yet.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

So after a brief discussion with an amazing tutor from 7Sage (Not going to tag him because I probably annoy him too much haha)

it's clear that where I'm having the most issues with this test is not the fundamentals but rather the execution.

After receiving my 163 I went back over the test to see where I had gone wrong. I couldn't really find one spot...I blind reviewed fairly easily to a 180. So how is it possible that I went -13 in LR and -7 in RC?

I'd have to say it was nerves, rushing and panic...

So now I need to figure out how to address these issues. I WILL NOT STOP working on the fundamentals. Obviously every single person will always do well to continue to entrench these into their thought process. What I need advice on is;

Skipping strategies that I would be comfortable with

Strategies to keep my mind focused on the argument and task

Strategies to not panic during the test

Ways to improve on speed/confidence/accuracy and the like.

Anyone have any good starting points for stuff like this?

I have a 3.7 GPA and scored a 163 in September when I took it for the first time. My highest PT score was a 170. Georgetown has been my dream school for years. I am aiming for a 167/168 in December. Is a 4-5 point increase attainable in two months?

I took around 10 fully timed PTs before my September exam. My test was the makeup Irma test, so it is undisclosed, but I feel like I did the worst on LG. I let my nerves get the best of me and guessed on about 6 questions.

Does anyone have any advice on where to go from here?

Thank you all so much in advance. 7sage has really been vital to my LSAT prep.

My priority school is UW.

My GPA is quite mediocre (3.57cumul/3.7 degree)

I’m aiming for 165-167. Am I not doing myself any favors with that expectation for that school?

Hey guys,

Assumption questions happen to be my achilles heel. I've begun practice testing and was wondering if anyone has any advice to offer to help me combat these guys

Nothing prepared me for the disappointment I felt when I opened my LSAT email from June. I had been feeling confident about the test and thought I would at least hit 170. I am a splitter applicant; I've always known that to be competitive I needed a stellar LSAT score. After a lot of studying (and a lot of dollars spent on the Ultimate package on 7Sage), I had managed to get my PT average to 171. My score came back 6 points lower, lower than any of my previous 15 practice tests. I realized then that a 165 is an objectively great score, but I was disappointed nonetheless.

I imagine there are many people here who feel the same. We set goals, we come up short, and deep down we know we can do better. I felt dejected. A huge part of me wanted to just call it a day and never take an LSAT prep-test again. But ultimately I pushed forward, took a few more practice tests, re-took some of the recent ones, and gave it one more shot in September. When I got my score yesterday (a 174), I literally fell out of my seat. I closed and re-opened the email 5 different times to make sure I hadn't misplaced the 7 and 4 in my head. I refreshed the page for the next hour, just waiting for LSAC to send a "We meant to send that to someone else..." I woke up panting from a nightmare last night that it had all been a dream.

Now I look back and I consider myself lucky to have scored 6 points below my average and not, say, 4, because any higher a score and I likely would've settled and said goodbye to the LSAT once and for all. In a way, thanks to scoring 6 points below my average, I had the chance to come back with a vengeance and score 3 points above.

The crazy thing about both of these tests: I left feeling just as confident (and unconfident) after each. The fact is sometimes a test plays to your strengths (and you get lucky), and sometimes a test screws you like a power tool.

Whether your goal is 170 or 150, if you feel like your September score does not demonstrate your potential, hold your head up high. You are not alone!

This exam is beatable. Most likely, the next one won't have judges with quite as high a degree of candor.

You can always take it again, and you can always do better.

Winter is coming, but winter will pass (hopefully; Game of Thrones S8 hasn't been released yet, so I can't say for sure).

SN: Thank you to 7Sage for all the help throughout this process. You guys easily offer the best course on the market. Eternally grateful, and plan to pass it forward to others in the future.

Hello, I recently paid for the LSAT stater to test out the course. But Im not sure how to use it. It seems like its jumping from different sections of the test. Do I need to use it will Im studying with my power score books and go to the section that match where I am at in the book? or do I start from the top? ...... please let me know how you all study using the course, it doesnt just have to bethe LSAT Starter. I just want to create a firm plan of how to study. I am planing on taking the Feb 2018 test.

Those of you who have gone 9 or more points up using 7sage, doesn't matter if it was from your raw score or not, how many times did you go through the core curriculum? or which parts in particular did you go through multiple times?

Hi, I haven't taken the exam yet, (my first time will be December), so please take this post with a grain of salt.

I know that many of the September takers under-performed. Although I haven't taken the LSAT myself, I know that my PT scores used to drop dramatically when I get nervous. I've been developing strategies for a while now to address this universal question: how can one be nervous/anxious/feel pressured and still perform well?

I think there are many outside resources, like meditation, exercising, positive thinking. But these are to set up one's mindset for the test day; but what if something goes wrong during the actual exam? What if meditating for 10 seconds during the exam doesn't help?

So I developed some strategies that I can fall back on.

Let's first think about what happens when we get nervous. From the fight or flight perspective, if we are in the "fight" mode, I think we develop an urge to move as fast as we can, to CONTROL the situation as quickly and much as we can. This is absolutely detrimental to performing well, especially for the LSAT, because LSAT rewards picking up on subtleties that can only be noticed when we are completely engaged and immersed with the text. Engaging, and not controlling, is the key. Similarly, if we are in the "flight" mode, we are probably panicking, not knowing what the next step should be. This is also detrimental, because LSAT tests what we can infer out amidst of uncertainty.

Regardless of whether we are in the "fight" or "flight" mode, we stop engaging with the text, which I think is the biggest reason for under-performing.

So the question becomes how to engage with the text when we are nervous. I think this is such a crucial question to performing well, but no one really discusses about it. The key is to internalize a consistent process that would force us to engage, so there is no room for your urge for control (or panic) to take over. The urge or panic will be there when we are nervous; This is out of our control. What is within our control is how we respond.

I'm sure that many of us normally engage with the writer, but lose the focus when we get nervous, because being nervous means that the attention is shifted back to us ( and how we are feeling). Below strategies help me to do shift my attention back to the author on a consistent basis.

For LR:

For example, if it is a scientist speaking, I take a moment to imagine a scientist talking about some study and hypothesis. If it is a mayor, it is probably something about a city policy and its effects. This is a part of prepping myself to listen and immerse with the speaker. This is helpful because as I am reading the stimulus, I can quickly identify and predict the function of the sentences. Oh, here is the study. So where is the hypothesis? So on and so forth.

When I start a new LR question, I slow down, doing the following:

Doing this might be counter-intuitive in the beginning, but with practice, this becomes second-nature. I can usually do all four in a couple of seconds (it's really more like a spark of thought), as they are not really a separate task. It's literally just stopping for a moment to orient myself. These strategies help me because I force myself to focus on the author and engage with the text and prepare my mind to be that way for every single question. I imagine a scene that the author created for me, give a personal response, think about why s/he wrote it, and capture it in my mind. The strategies also help me to manage the stimulus. I am not trying to control it; I am trying to break down the complicated information and sort it out into manageable pieces.

That way, I don't answer 10 questions mindlessly only to realize too late that I was going too fast.

I have similar strategies for RC and LG as well, but the philosophy is the same. It is finding the way to consistently engage with the text, so that the immersion beats and prevents nervousness.

The above strategy is just an example of what works for me. I am sure that everyone's strategies look different.

But I am writing this because I think we are overlooking that the half of the battle is psychological, and finding a way to be present and engage with the writer is probably the solution.

Also, please share any insights you have, too!

Thanks :)

hey guys,

I want to give myself the best chance of maximizing my score by knocking out the easy ones first. I know the first 10 are generally known as the easiest, but after that... how should I conquer and divide?

Hi guys,

I got my September Exam score back and although I'm relieved I improved, (1 point), I would still like to improve a couple more points to get more scholarship money and have a better chance at my reach schools. My diagnostic was a 140 and my highest official score is a 161. I already took the exam four times so I'm a bit worried about potentially having a fifth take. Which tutor would you guys recommend for improving in RC and LR in particular? If possible, I would prefer a tutor who started from a similar diagnostic as me. I dropped the ball in LR, (minus 8 in section 1 and minus 6 in section 4), even though I usually get around minus 3 and minus 4 for each LR section.

Also, would I still be able to negotiate higher financial aid offers if I sent in my applications before my retake in December? I was planning to send out applications to my target schools prior to the retake.

I'm ~~~lucky~~~ enough to be returning to studying for December post an oh-shucks-you're-better-that September performance.

I need to work on LG timing. When I do untimed LG sections or BR, I almost always get every question right. BUT when I'm confined to the all too claustrophobic 35 minutes, I find myself unable to finish - I barely even get through the 3rd game.

I've been foolproofing, and trying a game for the second go round definitely gets my time down, but I'm still too slow on first time games.

Advice?!?

Thank you to everyone who was kind to me today and showed me a lot of support. I noticed that for those of us who underperformed on September we have a lot of questions about what to do from here.

To help with that I have invited @"Cant Get Right" to answer any and all questions this Friday 7 pm EST. I honestly can't think of a better person to help answer these questions. He is someone who has scored in low160's twice, almost gave up on LSAT, but then decided to not let LSAT beat him. He worked hard and scored a 170 and eventually a 176. I think it would be tremendously helpful to be able to ask one on one questions directly to someone who has been there.

So this Friday evening, lets drop everything and figure out our problems :).

I hope this is something that will be helpful to a lot of you.

To attend the call, please click below the link at the scheduled time and we will see you there.

Hugs,

Sami

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I've been trying for a month to get an LOR submitted. The professor is saying that they keep following the link and submitting it but it doesn't even show that it's acknowledged on LSAC. Has anyone had this problem before?