I'm excited to finally begin taking practice tests and wanted to know how others have simulated test day conditions most effectively. While taking the test in a perfectly quiet room at home seems unproductive, I'm tempted to start out there and then move to nosier locations.

Okay, so there are a lot of posts about this out there. But it's really, really, really true. I know how hard the LSAT grind is and how much it sucks and how much you want it to be over, over, over. I was there too. I was devastated when I got my score back from the June 2017 LSAT and it was not the score I wanted. It could have gotten me into a good school, but my dream is/was NYU and it wasn't going to get me in at NYU. Not with any shot at money, at least, and because I want to go into public interest, I need a shot at money. So I buckled down, studied for 2 more months, and I blew it out of the water in September.

Let me tell you, I started out not being able to do a single game. I would MAYBE get the first question when you could brute force it. Other than that, everything was a total mystery and I did not think I'd ever be able to solve the games, let alone get a perfect score in the games.

This test is so beatable, but you HAVE to put the work in. I started studying in June 2016, with a 156. I was finally done with it in September 2017, with a 174. If I can do it, so can you, and so can anyone. This community, the forum and the explanations are invaluable and I credit them with so much of my success. I am happy to share any tips, though I don't think I have anything revolutionary to share.

Cheers.

"Which one of the following, if true, most justifies the above application of the principle?" - Is this Principle question or PSA?

"Which one of the following would be most useful to know in order to evaluate the argument?" - Sufficient Assumption? PSA?

These two appear on the later LSAT's and always give me pause and I'm not sure how to attack them...

Title says it mostly.

I’ve [unfortunately] done all of the PTS in the 50-80s. Used the 30s & 40s for drills. Haven’t really touched PT 1-29. From what I’ve read, 1-29 are pretty useless as anything besides drilling, so it seems that all I have to work with is PT 83 - Dec. 2017 PT - which I got in the mail today!!! Unless someone can reassure me that taking PR 1-29 as full timed test will be beneficial? Please please please please please....]

So here’s my story & my questions.

My PR average for PR 70 - 82 was a 178. I sat in December & choked. A good score, but below not my PT average. I blanked out on RC. kinda froze on LR. skipped. guessed. anxiety got the best of me & I predicted I’d get between a 165 & 170. I got a 168.

Luckily I took the sabbath test, so the released PT 83 is brand new for me. However, I don’t know what to do to prep for my retake in February...

• since I had a good handle on it PTing up to December what do I do to stay fresh and afloat before 1) taking PT 83 & more importantly 2) sitting again in Feb? How do I even study before the PT or test. [Unfortunatley sabbath tests being unreleased I have no clue how exactly I did on individual sections.

• as I previously questioned - can I benfit from taking, & at this point should I even take, any exams between 1-29 as full length PTs?

• Should I just not take PT 83 since my average is solid? What if I do poorly and shake my confidence?

I'm visiting LA from Buffalo and was driving to UCLA for a tour & class visit yesterday morning, when the Dean called to inform me of my acceptance!

Happy to DM you my stats.

Grateful for this community that has helped put everything into perspective and provided so much support over the last several months. :-)

Hi all - I've been reading posts from months/years ago to recently about study groups. I would like to start one but I'm not sure how to go ahead and do it. Any advice from the experiences study group leaders?

I am not a "teacher" by any means but would love to go over quiz questions. I love JY's videos but sometimes it gets lonely studying alone : / and I thought it would be nice to go over some of the lessons/quizzes with someone else.

Thanks for any advice.

RC is my weakest section. Which of the below options do you think is best for helping me to improve my RC? I want to improve as much as possible, but not at the expense of sacrificing top performance in the other sections.

If you have a suggested distribution other than the three mentioned in the poll, feel free to comment with input.

In the starter package - JY makes a lot of references to like words like But and Because introducing premises. Does anyone know which module/video talks about these key words? Is there a cheat sheet?

I can't recall if further more was one of our indicator words. I am getting confused, does furthermore introduced the main conclusion and follow the main premise?

Hi all, with a ( 3.0 GPA / )170 LSAT can I reasonably think about schools in the latter half of the T15 (#7-15) range? Or are those "reaches"? If they're reaches, where would my "targets" be?

Thanks in advance for your input, I really appreciate the noticeably kinder demeanor from this community in comparison with other Pre-Law forums on the internet...

A little over a week in 7sage I took a PT and improved by 3 points. I got a 157 a new personal best! With that said, I'm still having problems with the LR questions that ask something along the lines of the flaw in this argument best resembles... or the flaw in this argument is......these question types. Any pointers?

Okay so I did the 7Sage LSAT course and got fairly close to the score I wanted on the LSAT. I had 2 addenda (yes I made mistakes) but got the call a few months ago that I GOT IN!!!

anyways, do you think a 1L prep course is worth it? Should we learn a little background before we start this fall?

Hi I took a practice test today and scored 10 points lower than my last practice test and even lower than my diagnostic test...am I doing something wrong in my preparation?

My goal score is a 151, not too ambitious, I know. I am PTing still around 148, and BRing in the mid 150s, mostly 155. Diagnostic of 142.

I am sitting for February's test (I will take June if need be). So I take a PT, I BR it, other days I drill LR and FP. Somehow my RC is the highest, and 2nd is LG, and lowest is LR sects. But I'm drilling LR and only at like -4 or -5. And I'm drilling whole LR sections at 35 mins. What do I need to focus on? Continue LR drilling and working through those questions? I wish my PTs would be closer to my drilling of LR..

Hi @J.Y. Ping , I have come across a non-linear spacial game type . I need your suggestion on how to go about it. Since it is a different type of game so it must be having different way to interpret its rules . A sample of such a question is like this :

Admin edit: Removed full question. Please link to the PT instead of posting the stimulus as it is against our rules!

(Also please avoid thread titles in all caps, the admins are sensitive and don't like to be yelled at.)

Please guide me to tackle such misc questions and how to interpret the game board setup and interpret their rules.

Thanks and Regards,

Some ideas may be but not limited to scholarships, location, course variety and/or student life. Mines are:

I just did my kira interview for UT and cornell and I feel like a fell short on the video questions. I was wondering if sending a thank you for the opportunity/I could do better email would be a bad idea?

I missed question 4. I actually couldn’t pick an answer because they all appeared to work as I moved my l–n block around for each answer choice. I remember learning that when you have to go backwards in the chain that means those items on the other leg of the chain have no relation. So as I looked at my chain the l–n block had no relation to H, so I am missing the inference that I was supposed to pick up that indicated that nothing could be lower than H or that H had the 9 spot on lock down.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-4-section-3-game-1/

Ok so this question gave me a world of trouble. I looked up the explanation given on Manhattan and I think I get it but I need confirmation.

My main problem is that the explanation given doesn't seem to use the contrapositive (which I attempted to use) but rather 2 separate worlds for each one.

"In this world, you are either rich or poor, and you are either honest or dishonest. All poor farmers are honest. Therefore, all rich farmers are dishonest."

Now taking away the farmers part, the explanation went on to list the premises as:

R-->/P If you are rich, then you are not poor

/R-->P If you are not rich, then you are poor.

H-->/D If you are honest, then you are not dishonest.

/H-->D If you are not honest, then you are dishonest.

These don't line up as contrapositives but rather separate worlds it seems. When used with the conclusion though, you can reach AC A as the right answer.

R-->/P

/P->/H

/H-->D

R-->D

So am I on the right track? You treat the premises as separate worlds?

Hey all!

I took Sept 17, and got a decent score. Not the score I want or need. But the dilemma begins: how do you shake the "where do I go from here?" vibe?? I did decently, LR being my weak point, and I'm a very self-driven studier. My issue is that so many study plans are focused on starting from square one. I've done the CC twice, am now working with a tutor, but I sit at my desk and kind of just shuffle from one paper to the next. How do you get back into the groove? Having checked out some tips, I did watch a couple webinars, reviewed some CC, am working through the Trainer as a refresher, but I'm terrified of doing worse and learning the "wrong" way. Ay yai yai, help please!

Hi all, for schools like U Mich (where there’s no specific separate scholarship application process), how does the Darrow or other merit aid work if you are admitted in Jan or Feb? Thanks :)

Good evening beautiful people,

There is hope. I'm merely here to reiterate that.

Let me start off by saying: I am so tired. I've been in meetings and sitting all day, and didn't make it home until 6 pm. After making myself dinner, I opted to drill an old (and when I say old, I mean PT 11) LR section, even though I felt mentally drained.

Since I have not yet completed all of the LR modules in the CC, I didn't time myself - I'm ensuring that I'm able to give a logical reason for each answer choice I pick, on every question. Due to this, it took me an entire hour to finish just a SINGLE section. I blind reviewed the single question I had circled, and proceeded to grade the section.

Y'all-- I only missed 3 questions. ONLY 3!

Sure, it was an untimed section that took me 60 minutes to complete, but for me-- it's an improvement! Three months ago, before I started the CC on 7sage, I would miss anywhere from 9-11 questions on an untimed LR section, and it would take me even longer! I'm so enthused! Seriously!

Working full-time and working towards my law school dream has been mentally challenging, but today I feel so accomplished.

To everyone, and specially to those 7sagers working full-time: don't give up. Be resilient. Be brave!

It's so tough to study after a long work day, and the most arduous aspect of all of this may not even be your work schedule--but the people at work, or the tight deadlines. There are so many factors that affect our well-being, and even our ability to come home and be able to keep practicing and studying.

I love this community, I hope to be able to keep sharing my successes, and to share your successes as well.

I'm treating myself to the gym now. I need it! Sorry if my post doesn't make sense. I'm tired-- have I said that?

:D

Received an email encouraging me to take part in an optional interview from this school. They are not my first choice and probably will not even go if admitted. My question is two-fold. Why have been selected for the interview and what kinds of questions do they ask. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

To get a 170, do you think one should consistently finish all the questions in 30-32 mins? Which of course will allow some time to go back and double check answers that one is not 100% about. Should 170+ mastery allow for that? I’m trying to get my pacing down, and although I right at 35 mins for all the sections, I’m wondering if I should speed up a little.

Hi,

This might be a silly question but for D... It says "A scientific model that contains many elements is not a good theory"

And, on the premise, in order to be a good scientific theory your model needs to be simple enough to contain only a few elemnents...

From what I learned... Many is some ...

Is there difference between few and some?