I think it finally clicked for me on how to break down the stimuli. Not surprisingly, but I really tried to focus on how the narrator breaks down the stimuli (identifying structure and grammar) in a way that kind of mimics him. Talked to myself about why each word or phrase matters and who supports who. Saw the "thus" and almost went for it because well, it was the trap. But I always try to question myself, "okay is that really the conclusion?" and just glance over the rest of the stimuli to confirm my guess. I reminded myself to check each phrases structure and identify its importance (p or another c, or if it was a p, and another p). Which allowed me to figure out why the "wise" part was the main conc, and then used referential phrasing to answer A. Note it was a bit time consuming to break it down like that but it helped.
TIP: look out for Major premise/subconclusions! LSAT will try trick you to stop reading after u find that. Then theyll hide the MC at the end.
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MY APPROACH: I looked at the support relationship between the 2 conclusions presented. The one that didnt support (as a premise) for the other, was the Main Conclusion!
[i.e. the subconclusion - supported the main conclusion, but not vise versa, so i knew]
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I posted the above! for anyone who might need it. :) :) :)
Trust me i thought i wasnt good at these and i am someone whos usually confused. but referring back to the lesson like it was second hand saved me. the basics really are EVERYTHING!!
Is it a bad habit to select A and move on without reading the others? Intuition said it was right and it was, but I know that leaves me vulnerable to trap answers.
I have been doing well on these practice questions by identifying the conclusion (in my own words) after reading the stimulus before EVER reading the answer choices. So much so that I was 11 seconds faster than the target time (for this one). When I do read the answer choices, I know exactly what I'm looking for, I pick it, and I don't get tricked by the LSAT writer, with all their tricky answer choice language. Many people have said this, but I've really taken it to heart lately: "the answer choices are there to trick you, not help you." If you can, you should have a plan and an answer prediction in mind before you even read the answer choices!
This was a cleverly designed test. I fell for it hook line and sinker. Even if you notice patterns on the test, always make sure to read over the stimulus for each question.
I had my answers down to choices A and E. However, isn't answer choice A just making a suggestion because what if another person feels that it is best to stock up on white carnations before Christmas?
And now, I will answer my previous #feedback. We do not stop reading and go straight to answers once we find a conclusion because what you might have read is a sub-conclusion, not the main conclusion.
LOL, of course I tried to employ the method described in the previous lesson to "save time," not expecting a straightforward stimulus with 5 answer choices that are all seemingly explicitly stated in the stimulus. So I chose C because I saw "thus," only to play the video review and hear the first thing JY says be "the LSAT writers are quite aware of shortcuts"
glad everyone else got tricked by this one lol, makes me feel a little less like an idiot
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I almost chose E, but I recognized that green carnations being difficult to grow was a sub-conclusion, not the actual conclusion!!
I think it finally clicked for me on how to break down the stimuli. Not surprisingly, but I really tried to focus on how the narrator breaks down the stimuli (identifying structure and grammar) in a way that kind of mimics him. Talked to myself about why each word or phrase matters and who supports who. Saw the "thus" and almost went for it because well, it was the trap. But I always try to question myself, "okay is that really the conclusion?" and just glance over the rest of the stimuli to confirm my guess. I reminded myself to check each phrases structure and identify its importance (p or another c, or if it was a p, and another p). Which allowed me to figure out why the "wise" part was the main conc, and then used referential phrasing to answer A. Note it was a bit time consuming to break it down like that but it helped.
Fell for the trap originally as I was speeding through, but got it right with blind review.
bruh i am so mad i fell for that
PLEASE 7SAGE - its Paddy not Patty. sincerely, the Irish
I GOT THIS RIGHT (40seconds):
TIP: look out for Major premise/subconclusions! LSAT will try trick you to stop reading after u find that. Then theyll hide the MC at the end.
---------------------------------------------
MY APPROACH: I looked at the support relationship between the 2 conclusions presented. The one that didnt support (as a premise) for the other, was the Main Conclusion!
[i.e. the subconclusion - supported the main conclusion, but not vise versa, so i knew]
--------------------------------------------
I posted the above! for anyone who might need it. :) :) :)
Trust me i thought i wasnt good at these and i am someone whos usually confused. but referring back to the lesson like it was second hand saved me. the basics really are EVERYTHING!!
(its giving.... the karate kid movie... if ykyk)
i fell for the trap :(
Is it a bad habit to select A and move on without reading the others? Intuition said it was right and it was, but I know that leaves me vulnerable to trap answers.
This question humbled me!
I have been doing well on these practice questions by identifying the conclusion (in my own words) after reading the stimulus before EVER reading the answer choices. So much so that I was 11 seconds faster than the target time (for this one). When I do read the answer choices, I know exactly what I'm looking for, I pick it, and I don't get tricked by the LSAT writer, with all their tricky answer choice language. Many people have said this, but I've really taken it to heart lately: "the answer choices are there to trick you, not help you." If you can, you should have a plan and an answer prediction in mind before you even read the answer choices!
I wanted to chose A right off the bat it hit me but chose E cuz I felt it was too easy, then on the blind review I chose A. Damn
Cool, another trick. How clumsy of me, I should have recalled this trick amongst the twenty billion other tricks on this god damn test.
This was a cleverly designed test. I fell for it hook line and sinker. Even if you notice patterns on the test, always make sure to read over the stimulus for each question.
I had my answers down to choices A and E. However, isn't answer choice A just making a suggestion because what if another person feels that it is best to stock up on white carnations before Christmas?
I successfully took the bait and got it wrong. It was glorious....
And now, I will answer my previous #feedback. We do not stop reading and go straight to answers once we find a conclusion because what you might have read is a sub-conclusion, not the main conclusion.
Does anyone have tips about timing???? I am getting questions correct but am never within the suggested time!!!
#feedback
It's St. "Paddy's" Day, not St. "Patty's" Day.
I literally stopped caring about getting the question right after I saw such an easily-avoidable mistake made.
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LOL, of course I tried to employ the method described in the previous lesson to "save time," not expecting a straightforward stimulus with 5 answer choices that are all seemingly explicitly stated in the stimulus. So I chose C because I saw "thus," only to play the video review and hear the first thing JY says be "the LSAT writers are quite aware of shortcuts"
LSAT writers are a step ahead, but so is JY
First time I got the right answer within 50 seconds. It was easy and short anyway.
Lol I'm so sick of the low-level anxiety before opening each question. Still got this right though.
I've gotten every other question right except for this one, glad to see im not the only one who got tricked!
glad everyone else got tricked by this one lol, makes me feel a little less like an idiot