Also, please don't listen to the people who are humble bragging about how any difficult question wasn't that difficult. Despite getting the question right (only through POE, and even that was difficult because another one of the answer choices seemed plausible), the meaning of the answer I chose continually escaped me. It was like I got it, then I didn't, then I got it, then I didn't. I hope no one feels demoralized because other people's commentary about a hard question not being hard gaslighted them into thinking they aren't understanding what should be easily understandable. Don't let other people who are most likely capping for the sake of their own ego shake your confidence on this test. You have worked hard and learned a lot to even be here at this point.
Most of the difficulty of the LSAT comes from poorly written answers and stimuli. Things are hard because they obfuscate meaning. I really don't think this is a fair way to assess people's ability to critically think and create conclusions. I'd never rate someone poorly if they couldn't understand me after I were to speak to them but intermittently include grunts and screams to distract them, It's also insanely terrible how much they charge to trick us more than test us. Just like how Logic games have gone to the wayside, I think its fair to also ease up on the word salad that they give us.
Just venting rn. This question was awful. AC A still makes zero sense to me because its so distant from the "surprising" point of the stimulus. The point of focus in the stimuli is the 52 percent that still believe Walker is good after his scandals. How does drawing attention to a SEPARATE group of people who think of him poorly, explain the phenomenon??
Agreed. A was one I marked out almost immediately. It literally seems to be oppo from what the actual stim states. Would've been my go to for a RRE EXCEPT question... #feedback
Stim says 52% approve. That means up to 48% disapprove.
(A) says that people who already disapprove are the pretty much the only ones concerned with his ethics violations. Walker basically didn't lose anybody, he just pissed off the ones who don't like him even more.
The answer choice is so poorly worded that most people are thrown off the scent. Whack. The way JY explains the better wording of the correct answer is what it should be. But LSAT is going to do LSAT things.
Whether or not you got this question right, breathe. Please take.a breath. The way in which the correct answer was written would make most people's brains crash. This was written absolutely diabolically.
I wish the video explanation went over the strategy step by step on how to approach this beast of a question employing some of the techniques we learned instead of having us imagine it all in our heads and attempt to follow the reasoning.
I got this one right, so here's my thought process:
We need to find an answer choice that tells us why the residents still think the mayor's performance is great despite being allegedly guilty of violating ethics. Better yet, why did his performance rating remain unchanged?
I always do POE for RRE. As I read each answer choice, I'm immediately questioning their sufficiency to resolve the issue/question at hand, not their validity. So here's my thought process for all answer choices in quotes:
B is wrong, "cause why do we care about the opps again? It does nothing for the issue here."
C is wrong, "okay, even if they didn't know, WE still don't know how this would affect the performance ratings; C requires even more mad assumptions on our end before it would even do anything for the argument."
D is wrong, "Umm, what's our business with the Anti-corruption group??"
E is wrong, "Cause okay, even if he defended himself, that still does nothing to explain why the performance ratings remained the same". See now, most people picked E cause they made the intuitive assumption that "oh ofc the people must have believed him, which is why the performance ratings remained the same," when in reality we don't even know how these people would ever react to his claims.
A is correct because it answers the question of why the ratings remained unchanged. Is it a strong explanation? Eh, but is it the strongest among the rest? yes.
@Mari_on_nette YESS tysm my reasoning was the exact same!! even if i get the question right i still feel like i arrived at the right answer "incorrectly" when i read the explanation by 7sage. so this makes me feel good :)
Fell for E.... these logical reasoning questions make me feel so stupid! It makes so much sense afterwards but not in the moment. I don't know how i'm going to get a strategy down that will make me see this in the moment and before I make the mistake. I need a foolproof strategy for this! Anyone got any tips or methods they've found helpful? Please message me! I'd love to bounce ideas off of one another for LR.
I also fell for E and with the timer it was faster than actual timers so it's definitely harder to focus on the question I don't know why LSAT is timed given the difficulty fo these questions. Seems cruel. But I guess it's to weed people out.
My tip would be to read through the stimulus slowly, paying attention to every specific word and modifier. That way the chances of you missing things that are obvious are lower!
i understand why the answer I picked (C) is wrong and A is correct. However, I'm worried that in the future, I still would not get a question like this correct.
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RELEASE THE WALKER FILES!
@ActuallyJozu lol timely
@ActuallyJozu whats the reference?
yet another question wrong! hooray!
the lsat writers hate to see me win i know it
No fr!!!!
Also, please don't listen to the people who are humble bragging about how any difficult question wasn't that difficult. Despite getting the question right (only through POE, and even that was difficult because another one of the answer choices seemed plausible), the meaning of the answer I chose continually escaped me. It was like I got it, then I didn't, then I got it, then I didn't. I hope no one feels demoralized because other people's commentary about a hard question not being hard gaslighted them into thinking they aren't understanding what should be easily understandable. Don't let other people who are most likely capping for the sake of their own ego shake your confidence on this test. You have worked hard and learned a lot to even be here at this point.
This question is for the streets
Most of the difficulty of the LSAT comes from poorly written answers and stimuli. Things are hard because they obfuscate meaning. I really don't think this is a fair way to assess people's ability to critically think and create conclusions. I'd never rate someone poorly if they couldn't understand me after I were to speak to them but intermittently include grunts and screams to distract them, It's also insanely terrible how much they charge to trick us more than test us. Just like how Logic games have gone to the wayside, I think its fair to also ease up on the word salad that they give us.
Just venting rn. This question was awful. AC A still makes zero sense to me because its so distant from the "surprising" point of the stimulus. The point of focus in the stimuli is the 52 percent that still believe Walker is good after his scandals. How does drawing attention to a SEPARATE group of people who think of him poorly, explain the phenomenon??
I completely agree
Agreed. A was one I marked out almost immediately. It literally seems to be oppo from what the actual stim states. Would've been my go to for a RRE EXCEPT question... #feedback
I love this comment so much. They try to create barriers to prevent people from doing very well.
IRRITATED
E!!!!!!!!!!!!!! damn you.
Aight now these RRE questions cracking me like crazy
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@SalmaanEjaz first jjk fan to take reading comprehension
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the political commentary on this is so funny!!!
yeah this one was hard
A.) just had intercourse with my brain so hard. I could not figure out what it was saying for the life of me.
WELL, IT HAD INTERCOURSE WITH MY BRAIN TOO DON'T THINK YOU'RE SO SPECIAL
replace mayor Walker's name with any current politician and the correct answer becomes wayyyy easier to find 😝
@ysabella832 facts
A is the perfect answer because...
Stim says 52% approve. That means up to 48% disapprove.
(A) says that people who already disapprove are the pretty much the only ones concerned with his ethics violations. Walker basically didn't lose anybody, he just pissed off the ones who don't like him even more.
@ChaseJ thanks for this
@ChaseJ Thank you for the simple explanation! I finally understand what A is saying
The answer choice is so poorly worded that most people are thrown off the scent. Whack. The way JY explains the better wording of the correct answer is what it should be. But LSAT is going to do LSAT things.
LSAT gon LSAT should definitely be a meme or T shirt lol
Whether or not you got this question right, breathe. Please take.a breath. The way in which the correct answer was written would make most people's brains crash. This was written absolutely diabolically.
I wish the video explanation went over the strategy step by step on how to approach this beast of a question employing some of the techniques we learned instead of having us imagine it all in our heads and attempt to follow the reasoning.
you seem like an awesome person!
I got this one right, so here's my thought process:
We need to find an answer choice that tells us why the residents still think the mayor's performance is great despite being allegedly guilty of violating ethics. Better yet, why did his performance rating remain unchanged?
I always do POE for RRE. As I read each answer choice, I'm immediately questioning their sufficiency to resolve the issue/question at hand, not their validity. So here's my thought process for all answer choices in quotes:
B is wrong, "cause why do we care about the opps again? It does nothing for the issue here."
C is wrong, "okay, even if they didn't know, WE still don't know how this would affect the performance ratings; C requires even more mad assumptions on our end before it would even do anything for the argument."
D is wrong, "Umm, what's our business with the Anti-corruption group??"
E is wrong, "Cause okay, even if he defended himself, that still does nothing to explain why the performance ratings remained the same". See now, most people picked E cause they made the intuitive assumption that "oh ofc the people must have believed him, which is why the performance ratings remained the same," when in reality we don't even know how these people would ever react to his claims.
A is correct because it answers the question of why the ratings remained unchanged. Is it a strong explanation? Eh, but is it the strongest among the rest? yes.
@Mari_on_nette YESS tysm my reasoning was the exact same!! even if i get the question right i still feel like i arrived at the right answer "incorrectly" when i read the explanation by 7sage. so this makes me feel good :)
Mayor Walker wrote this question.
I want to live in those innocent political times again
Fell for E.... these logical reasoning questions make me feel so stupid! It makes so much sense afterwards but not in the moment. I don't know how i'm going to get a strategy down that will make me see this in the moment and before I make the mistake. I need a foolproof strategy for this! Anyone got any tips or methods they've found helpful? Please message me! I'd love to bounce ideas off of one another for LR.
Im feeling the same way!! This question was of highest difficulty and I struggle with math
I also fell for E and with the timer it was faster than actual timers so it's definitely harder to focus on the question I don't know why LSAT is timed given the difficulty fo these questions. Seems cruel. But I guess it's to weed people out.
My tip would be to read through the stimulus slowly, paying attention to every specific word and modifier. That way the chances of you missing things that are obvious are lower!
thank you, its tough with a timer on.
i understand why the answer I picked (C) is wrong and A is correct. However, I'm worried that in the future, I still would not get a question like this correct.
I am so surpised this was a level 5. I feel proud of myself lol.
@KaylenRodriguez Agreed!
...I actually got this pretty fast. Maybe I've been exposed to too much political poll analysis in my life
not the shoot someoneon 5th ave line.......