I believe these questions are rare because they are not as difficult as all the other question types we've done so far--LSAT writers want us to struggle lol
The written version of this lesson is a menace for AC D
Hmm, I can think of so many controversial examples so perhaps something anodyne. Alright, let’s do Christianity. 😇 I doubt the founders of Christianity intended for the Spanish Inquisition.
I'm confused as to why E cannot be a good answer. The institutions have a purpose, and they can serve another purpose (being serving selfish staff members in their pursuits.) The only reason I can think that E wouldn't be correct is that E says "just as effectively" and we do not know how effective the institutions are at serving each purpose. Someone please chime in. I chose b under time constraints but under blind review, E seems just as appealing to me.
@DanielNahum the stimulus references a whole (institutions) vs its parts (staff members). answer e references an intention (maybe "public purposes?" not strongly implied) vs. another purpose (the stimulus mentions it is achieving its goals, so this does not make sense). answer b makes a specific part/whole comparison, so that answer choice fits better
@DanielNahum It is because in E the instrument E only talks about relating to the hospital / public places. It is saying these public places can have 2 purposes but the reading is saying the public places has one purpose and the workers there (not the same "instrument," which by the way is a very vague description of public spaces compared to the other answers) have a different purpose.
In the text summary for C, "in the ladder case" should be "in the latter case". I was thinking back to the question with the kids and the stairs and ladders!
I didn't like B because of the "not all" in it. The stimulus' conclusion is very strong, saying each of the staff members, but of course I accept that B is the right answer and will try to rethink this question using JY's advice.
After rethinking the question, I see that staff members within a hospital, labor union, school, etc. are distinct from managers and executives - folks that weren't mentioned in the passage. The LSAT writers are sooo tricky.
@JO_Odera I did not go with B for the same reason - the stimulus states "each... member... only... selfish reasons." That did not match in my view with "not ALL... members possess," which implies that some do. The stimulus clearly stated that ALL members possessed a different property.
Thank you for sharing your explanatory afterthought. I don't know if that is sufficient though. Management is still "staff" - just with a different function. (At least that's what Google says - of course, Google knows it all and best :) If that is for debate - what "staff" is - then the stimulus should have differentiated various lines of staff, but it clearly said - "EACH staff member." I would like to propose addressing this nuance in the explanatory video because there are at least some students who tripped on this one.
I chose answer B because the paragraph aims at the fact that people must have alternative or, in this case, altruistic motives to achieve selfish reasons. I think altruistic motives in C is assumption bait, but that is what I came up with because I did not know the definition of altruistic very well and, in the answer B, I thought the word property could have a definition that meant a "building or buildings and the land belonging to it or them"(Oxford Languages) not a property like "an attribute, quality, or characteristic of something"(Oxford Languages).
Why couldn't E be the answer based on the idea that an instrument (i.e. institutions mentioned in the stimulus) created for one purpose (i.e. public good) could also serve another purpose effectively (i.e. fulfill workers' selfish desires)?
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I believe these questions are rare because they are not as difficult as all the other question types we've done so far--LSAT writers want us to struggle lol
YAYYA got it right:)
@amara AWW YAAA me too :)
is it just me or I chose C which is the correct answer but it shows up I chose B ? So it says it is incorrect. Is this only happening to me ?
Not me seeing property, immediately crossing it out & then coming back to it after I also crossed all the others out lol
Yep I can also see why these a rare. Once you can spot what you're looking for you can basically hunt
the whole is greater than the sum of its parts is something i only realized in BR
I'm so dumb, all i could think of when I saw property was that an organization owned land that it's employees didn't have...
@cwferrari Same here!!
@cwferrari righttt I had to go back to that one
@cwferrari my exact same thought process
Grammar made me get this wrong!!!
A dog can be used for companionship but can also be used for hunting
An army can be used for defense, but can also be used for offense.
"property" was a choice.
@wonderingguy Very annoying
The written version of this lesson is a menace for AC D
Finally got one of the questions right AND under the target timing!
Lmao American Pie reference is top tier
I'm confused as to why E cannot be a good answer. The institutions have a purpose, and they can serve another purpose (being serving selfish staff members in their pursuits.) The only reason I can think that E wouldn't be correct is that E says "just as effectively" and we do not know how effective the institutions are at serving each purpose. Someone please chime in. I chose b under time constraints but under blind review, E seems just as appealing to me.
@DanielNahum just as effectively is the only thing I also see to make it wrong.
@DanielNahum the stimulus references a whole (institutions) vs its parts (staff members). answer e references an intention (maybe "public purposes?" not strongly implied) vs. another purpose (the stimulus mentions it is achieving its goals, so this does not make sense). answer b makes a specific part/whole comparison, so that answer choice fits better
@DanielNahum It is because in E the instrument E only talks about relating to the hospital / public places. It is saying these public places can have 2 purposes but the reading is saying the public places has one purpose and the workers there (not the same "instrument," which by the way is a very vague description of public spaces compared to the other answers) have a different purpose.
In the text summary for C, "in the ladder case" should be "in the latter case". I was thinking back to the question with the kids and the stairs and ladders!
I overthought the "not all"
I feel like B was still even a reach I understand the explanation but i think it's still dumb.
Completely disregarded B because I saw property and compared it something else...ugh
I did want to pick B, but I thought its not referred "property" but rather quality. Meh
sick 4/4 right
Unfortunately he said this section is "rare" I too am finding these digestible
I was reading property as in real estate oh my gawd
Same
me too killme
I didn't like B because of the "not all" in it. The stimulus' conclusion is very strong, saying each of the staff members, but of course I accept that B is the right answer and will try to rethink this question using JY's advice.
After rethinking the question, I see that staff members within a hospital, labor union, school, etc. are distinct from managers and executives - folks that weren't mentioned in the passage. The LSAT writers are sooo tricky.
I had the same concern -- what you said makes a ton of sense!
@JO_Odera I did not go with B for the same reason - the stimulus states "each... member... only... selfish reasons." That did not match in my view with "not ALL... members possess," which implies that some do. The stimulus clearly stated that ALL members possessed a different property.
Thank you for sharing your explanatory afterthought. I don't know if that is sufficient though. Management is still "staff" - just with a different function. (At least that's what Google says - of course, Google knows it all and best :) If that is for debate - what "staff" is - then the stimulus should have differentiated various lines of staff, but it clearly said - "EACH staff member." I would like to propose addressing this nuance in the explanatory video because there are at least some students who tripped on this one.
I chose answer B because the paragraph aims at the fact that people must have alternative or, in this case, altruistic motives to achieve selfish reasons. I think altruistic motives in C is assumption bait, but that is what I came up with because I did not know the definition of altruistic very well and, in the answer B, I thought the word property could have a definition that meant a "building or buildings and the land belonging to it or them"(Oxford Languages) not a property like "an attribute, quality, or characteristic of something"(Oxford Languages).
I totally read property as a building lmaooooooo
Why couldn't E be the answer based on the idea that an instrument (i.e. institutions mentioned in the stimulus) created for one purpose (i.e. public good) could also serve another purpose effectively (i.e. fulfill workers' selfish desires)?