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I was wondering how different tier 1, 2, and 3 law schools are academically. Will a t-14 school typically be more difficult than a tier 2 school. If so, how large is the difference? Or is the difficulty level similar, and the prestige is what sets these schools apart? Do people sometimes choose schools based on their teaching styles and how demanding the work load will be? Would it be smart to attend a tier 2 school where you think you can excel, or a top law school where you know you will be overwhelmed.

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I’m a slow starter and I found that if I don’t do some warm up questions before a PT I won’t be able to get to the last 5-6 questions of the first section. My warm up routine has been: one game (doesn’t have to be new), 10 LR questions (new), and 1 set of RC passage + questions (new). I time myself when I warm up. I found that except for LG, doing old questions just won’t warm me up the same way new questions do.

This routine is enough to warm me up but the whole thing can take me almost 40 minutes depending on how groggy I am in the morning and can eat up my energy during the actual test. I read some old threads and saw ppl doing just games and a few LR questions. But I want to be prepared if the first section happens to be RC(!!!).

I’m wondering what worked for you guys? Any info will be much appreciated!

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Hey everyone, so I've gotten out the bulk of my applications but I still want to submit more. I'm honestly just waiting on my next few paychecks. It's difficult to afford all these applications especially during the holidays. So would applying late December early January put me at a disadvantage? Should I just put the rest of my apps on a credit card? Please let me know if I should be submitting my apps asap.

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I've prepared lsat for two months, i studied all the 7sage courses, some of the trainer courses. But i still couldn't see any improvement on my test score. I was stuck under 150 in my recent timed 4 PT. Without time limit, my PT score is between 155-160. My friend suggest me to take 1 PT everyday and review it. I can do that, but i couldn't see any improvement if keep doing so.

LR is my frustrated part. I watched all the course and thought i can improve a lot. But the truth is I can only get 8-13 right of each LR section. Meanwhile i will left 5-6 questions unfinished and even not read. So, the skip strategy almost doesn't applies to me. Since no matter how i skip, i still couldn't finish the questions. Most of the time, when i read the stimulus, i need to refer back to former sentences over and over again to understand the stimulus. It costs me a lot of time. Blind review is also let me angry. First, there always five choices i haven't review and to be wrong. Second even when i reviewed the questions, there're still 3-5 my reviewed answer choice still be wrong. I can understand all the explanations through video or discussion forum. But next time, i still be wrong which make me hopeless.

RC is frustrated as well. Sometimes, i can get 12-14 right this section with a whole passage left unread. In the beginning, i tried to read and whole passage before answering the questions, but it usually take 8 minutes to read each passage and turn out to be a lower correction rate. Now, i skip all the details only read the core sentences, it takes less time, but i still cannot finish the last passages.

Game is bit less than the other two sections. I can get 15-21 right in this section. There's no game i cannot solve after i watched the video. However, there are three big problems. First, i can solve doesn't mean i won't stuck. I stuck a lot on most of the games.

Second, i habitually misread or interpret the stimulus and choose the wrong answers. As a result, i miss 3-4 questions every section in this way. Third, when i try to slow down and make sure my understanding is right, i spent a lot of time and only deduct the wrong questions down to 2-3 of each section. And the result is i may not have time to proceed the last game.

Another problem is i have little sense of the time. Sometimes i feel i was fast, and only stuck a little. The truth is I'm too slow. Anyone can help me a little more about any of the question i met. I'm not clever, but i'm very diligent. And i only aim 150 for the time being.

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i've been trying to "foolproof" RC and LR basically - maybe after a week of doing a LR and RC section, redoing those sections again timed. And in 2nd time doing it, really focusing on form, and being conscious of breaking the old thinking habits on questions I got wrong before and trying to reinforce good thinking habits.

Anyone else try this or have any suggesions on this? any comments or suggestions appreciated.

foolproofing RC and LR also helps me to gain a deeper insight into that LR/RC section, where I am able to see patterns, cookie cutter wrong AC's, logic structures, etc. in a way that I did not see when I first took it. Thus doing this reinforces a deeper understanding of the patterns of the LSAT.

Foolrpoofing RC and LR is also helpful because if I get a question wrong again, it'll show me that my original BR/review was not sufficient, and will force me to go deeper.

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Hello,

My name is Alec. I started studying for the LSAT in early November 2018 on a full time basis. My diagnostic score was a 150. After a month and a half of studying (CC completed and 4 PTs) I have raised my average to ~161. I am debating whether to sit for the January LSAT or wait a cycle and take it this march or this summer. I graduated with a 4.0 gpa with a degree in philosophy. Any advice or input would be appreciated. My gut tells me that it would be in my best interest to slow things down, get the best possible LSAT score when I'm ready, and apply early next fall. However, it's hard to know how much improvement can be expected in another 5-6 weeks.

Yours,

Alec

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Hey Colleges,

I've been preparing for few month already and many times I ask myself a question: should I even care about Khan academy LSAT Prep Course developed in cooperation with LSAC ? First, it seemed like it's an official tool developed by LSAC, but as I reed into it, it seems like it's a waste of time.

Does anyone here thinks that it's useful?

Andrii

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I am 60% through my studying and took a practice test to see if i would feel comfortable registering for the January test. Only scored 4 points higher than my already under 145 score. First Lsat i scored 141. Super bummed decided not to test in Jan. and wait until march. What do i do now? Do i go back and start over from the beginning of the CC or keep pushing through? just completely lost 3 1/2 months later only a 3 point increase? #Help

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Hey guys,

Going on a 7 hour car ride in 2 days and it feels like a good time to study for the LSAT

Does anyone know if theres a way to download any practice material from 7Sage/ practice LSATs from the syllabus since I won't have any phone reception or wifi (i'm crossing the border)?

Thanks!

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Hi All -

I am applying for this cycle and have a fair number of connections (friends, colleagues, mentors) who have attended law schools that I'm currently applying to. I already have my letters of recommendation, but was wondering if there was a way to utilize these connections in support of my application (in an appropriate and professional way). Would it be worth asking them if there's an existing channel for them to provide informal "recommendations" to their school networks? Is this a thing??

Any advice is appreciated! Thank you! Happy holidays, and good luck to everyone studying/applying!

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Hey everyone,

I was wondering if people were worried about the LSAT's transition from paper to digital format. I'm used to the traditional paper-pencil format for a test. I never had prepared for an exam that would be taken on a computer (aside from my driver's permit).

I wanted to hear what others had to say about it and what it would mean for future law school applicants.

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Hi all,

I wanted to know how the law school application process is for recent grad students. I want to earn an MS degree and then hopefully attend law school (still in undergrad).

I was wondering if anyone knows how admissions view nontraditional applicants. Also, if I decide on taking the LSAT in my undergrad would I have to retake it to apply for schools?

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Hey guys. So if you're like me, you took the November LSAT, are unhappy with your results, and are studying to re-take in January. I've seen accountability threads on this site before, and think that one might be helpful to keep us motivated and on track.

Here's the basic format:

Recap of your last week of studying (where you did well, where you can improve)

Goals for next week

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Hi guys,

I know I once read a thread here about the LSAT addenda for USC, but I can't seem to find it. For reference, USC asks you for an explanation if your score jump was greater than 4. Mine was 13. Any recommendations here? Some background: I studied for 5 weeks before the first test, took it before I was ready to ease test anxiety. My second attempt, after 2 more months of study, was in line with my average PT. Is it appropriate to say I studied more efficiently?

Thanks! Trying to submit this week.

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I'm starting my retake prep now for January 26th. I got a [removed] on the November 17th LSAT and am hoping to get that up to 165-169 on the January test. My breakdown was [removed]. It seems that the January test is the last one somewhat on time for this cycle, so I don't want to take the March test. I'm already registered for January. RC seems to be my main obstacle; I took PT 54 before November's test and missed only 10 questions total between LR and LG, but missed fifteen questions in RC and was dragged down to a 159 by that. I had a -9 average in RC on PTs and got -9 on the November test, although I think barely getting any sleep played some role in that. I had been practicing the Memory Method some with individual passages and thought I was improving. What's the best way to improve RC? I'm assuming I'd want to practice sections of RC first before starting PTs. I was thinking about just foolproofing sections and doing timed sections of RC until January, and then doing 2-3 PTs per week for a few weeks before the test.

I haven't really tried to incorporate any skipping strategies in the past, either, so I'm going to be checking out the webinars on here.

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As you probably know, the LSAT measures your logical ability, reading comprehension, and mental acuity. Perhaps just as importantly, though, it also tests your confidence, fortitude, and ability to handle stress. I’m going to talk about the latter, because focusing on these made a world of difference for me.

I started studying off and on for the LSAT from about February to May and I was getting about mid-to-high150’s in a couple of PT’s. I started to study seriously in May, and thanks largely to 7Sage I moved into the 168-170 range on my PT’s by September! This range was my goal, and so I took the September test hoping that I could match my PT’s and start applying by October. Unfortunately, though, I got a 165. This was still a fine score, but I didn’t understand why I had underperformed. The more I thought about it, the more realized that it had more to do with how I prepared for the test than how I had studied for it if that makes sense. I made some significant changes, and in November I got a 169!

Those four points have COMPLETELY changed my application outlook. At best, I had a fair-to-middling chance at getting in to a T14 school before, with a T20 school being more likely. That would have been great, but now I have a decent chance at a T6 school! (I should note that I’m a former Air Force officer with a masters and some other strong soft factors.) The thing that might surprise you, though, is that from September to November I did almost no studying. The only thing I did was take two PT’s in the week before the test to shake off any rust that might have developed. Below is a list of what I did do.

  • I took the November test in a unique location. In September, I took the test in my hometown on the same campus that I had taken most of my PT’s. I thought this would help by making me feel comfortable, but instead it just reminded me that everything was riding on my ability to perform in that moment. This stressed me out and mentally I tensed up on both LR sections (-9 and -6). By going somewhere different, it was more like an adventure and I felt like I could anything that I set my mind to.
  • Once I felt secure in my knowledge of the rules and logic of the LSAT, I stopped thinking about the LSAT. This is the counterintuitive part for me, because my gut reaction in September was to study, study, and study some more. However, by not beating myself over the head with endless problem sets and PT's, I let the concepts of the LSAT settle in and get nice and cosy in my brain.
  • At the same time, I kept myself mentally engaged on subjects that were closely related to LSAT concepts. I had the benefit of being in a masters program where logic and philosophy were commonly discussed, but reading Scientific American or philosophy articles and playing sudoku can probably do the trick. The key here is for the LSAT to feel natural, normal, and connected to the rest of your field of knowledge. The LSAT can feel like a foreign language, and it will help your confidence so freaking much if you can find a way to overcome that.
  • REST. I cannot stress this enough. If you are like me, you will be tempted to try to get a good score through sheer force of will. I thought that if I completed the 7Sage curriculum, read all three Powerscore Bibles, and took 50 PT's, then I would get a 170. In the end, I finished about 35% of 7Sage's core curriculum, maybe half of just the LG Bible, and took 22 PT's, and I got a 169. Programs like 7Sage are incredibly important for learning how the LSAT works, but there are other factors that can directly effect how you do on the LSAT. You can go through the core curriculum seven times and have it memorized, but if you tense up during the test then that might not matter. My four point improvement had much more to do with feeling rested and relaxed on test day than anything else. By the way, when I say rest I don't just mean sleep but also take mental breaks. Catch up on your favorite shows. Take a vacation. Spend time with your family and friends. This is pretty much all I did for two months, and it worked for me. Your brain is not invincible. For optimum performance, sometimes you need to hit the refresh button.
  • To be fair, 7Sage says a lot of this in one of its early lessons, but I think my example is a good anecdotal case study of the importance of the intangible factors. Feel free to use or not use any of the things I did, because in the end it all comes down to your specific experience and how your individual brain will respond. I'm probably an extreme case to be honest, so you should probably tone some of these things down a bit if you do use them. Bottom line, the important thing is that you do everything you can to create the best circumstances for success. Good luck!

    P.S. I just used the Edit Once sentence-level edit feature in the Admissions course, and it might be the best $200 I ever spent. I definitely recommend it for peace of mind before you send off your applications if you are at that point.

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    Hey everyone I'll be sitting for my first test this January under disability accommodations due to a broken hand. Im currently pting at an average of about 149/150. Examples: PTJ07 Diagnostic :145,PT36:150 BR:162,PT40:153,BR:160 PT42:151 BR;159, PT50:152 BR:162.

    LR: Average -11.3, Best -8. Worst -15

    LG: Average -9.3, Best -7, Worst -11

    RC: Average -11.7, Best -9, Worst -16

    My goal realistically is around a155 or a 55 yet my highest pt has only been a 153. My first PT was 11/19, since then I've made a +7 (LSAT Test Analytics page.)Is this doable? I plan to revisit the CC fundamentals on LR & LG, while drilling timed LR and LG sections my worst two imo, lastly I've also started working with a tutor Friday. Does anyone have any advice for me to help me increase my score ?

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