Hey everyone! If I need to add something to my application after I already submitted it, can I do so? I realized my doctor didn't fill out one question, and I originally didn't think it was crucial, but now I'm thinking it may be necessary. Any advice on how to go about this?

I have taken a few weeks to focus on admissions stuff, but the September LSAT didn't go well for me. I panicked on RC and the first LR, i have always had pretty severe test anxiety and it really hit me hard on test day. I did okay on the second LR and after the break i calmed down and the last two sections went fine. All in all I expect to be about ten points or more below a good practice test, which is obviously quite disappointing.

Overall though, its not a big deal. Writing in September was an important experience, and i'm looking forward to seeing my score so i can review and see what I can improve on. Pretty much thanks to reading and exploring these forums I have come to realize that writing more than once, although not ideal isn't a big deal either and what is important is showing long term improvement. I have been forcing myself to read an old economist front to back every day and the last few days i started prepping again, I did two timed RC sections and scored -3 on each, tied for best two scores on timed RC so far. I'm optimistic i can really do well in November, I feel way less anxiety and I will be more prepared. If anyone else bombed September just wanted to let people know there's other people out there in the same boat and looking forward to crushing November with whoever decides to write then! I remember after the test i found solace in reading other peoples horror stories and realizing i'm not alone in my bad test so i figured i would pay back now, right before scores are released. Goodluck!

Hey future lawyers,

I will be applying to a few schools in New York this cycle. I was wondering where do these students live. Housing in the city is unreasonable, and the commute from other burrows can be quite far. Do students just take out loans for housing? Plus it seems like most NY schools don't provide housing. What's going on NY law students?

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... so I recently decided to go all-in and buy the exact same pencils J.Y. uses in his live videos.

They arrived today so I had to try them out on a fresh PT. I just got my first 180.

It works guys, I promise!

Hi,

when i upgraded my 7sage account, i seem to have lost my scores for PTs I took prior to upgrading.

Can i get it back for records?

After practicing some timed tests, I've finally accepted that I won't be able to do every single problem and have to learn to give up some problems. So what type of problems do you guys skip? Like what's your criteria to skip a problem and how long does it take you to make that decision?

Hi there!

I have printed out all of the problem sets after each lesson and I went through all of them and watched the video explanations on this as well. My question is - do you recommend me also going through the question bank as well? I'm not sure if I should start practice tests now or continue on to the question bank after completing all pdf problem sets.

Thank you for your help!

Hey guys, so Necessary Assumptions I was having problems with, but finally I fixed that!! But now these questions are so annoying. I feel like they are time traps for sure, and if I follow the trying to match similar phrasing of the conclusions and premise, I feel I waste alot of time and it distracts me from the point. Do you like to change the stimulus to ( A B C etc) or do you just take note of the stimulus format? If possible, if someone can tell me their thought process in attacking these problems, where we dont kill so much time! That would help so much! Thank you!

Hello,

Just for fun tell us what's your dream school regardless of your finances, GPA, or test scores. Then 3 reasons why that school(s).

My dream schools are Columbia or NYU.

Columbia

NYU

Admin note: edited title, no all caps please

Hi guys, since there are no captions/subtitles for the videos, I'm at a very big disadvantage compared to everyone else in terms of what information I can receive. I can hear most of what JY is saying but sometimes it's impossible to tell what he's saying since he talks so fast and his pop-culture examples get loss in the words. I don't want to go to traditional LSAT classrooms otherwise I will need a captioner and they can get expensive. Should I just drill different areas of the LSAT? I'm at a loss as what to do for studying. I've been retaking PT exams and drilling as much as I can, but it's not enough. I don't seem to get the breakthroughs that everyone else is getting.

These were not included in the syllabus so I had to purchase them on my own quite recently. When did this happen? I'm so glad. Thank you 7sage admin team :) I now can foolproof more PTs far more conveniently.

Hi guys,

I am currently a senior in college and I'm having extreme difficulty finding time to study for the LSAT. I haven't really looked at the LSAT for the three weeks because of school, and I really do not want for this to continue.

To briefly explain, I have classes, and also 22 hours of internship weekly. And because my classes are advanced seminars, I find myself doing my homework on the weekends with no time to study for the LSAT. Can anyone give me advice? I feel like some people have worse schedules than me, and do stellar on the LSAT. Please tell me how you guys studied for this exam. Also my goal is a 165 + and I have been hitting the low 150's. And I am thinking to take the test the earliest March 2019 or June/July 2019.

Thanks guys :)

I’m trying to write Why Xs for other schools and really struggling bc I’m not as interested in the faculty/clubs/clinics offered by other schools. I know I shouldn’t be thinking so much about extracurriculars during law school and the end goal is to get a job but I really want to make the most out of my law school experience and other coughs more conservative schools don’t offer the same opportunities. Anyone else facing this dilemma or am I the only crazy person who really wants to put all my eggs in one basket and just not go to law school until this school accepts me /facepalms

Quick question- I currently have LSAT Ultimate, but I am thinking of upgrading to Ultimate +. My current end date for the course is Jan 9th, 2019- if I wanted to say extend my Ultimate + access (after purchasing the upgrade) for another 6 months- (I believe it would automatically jump to Feb 9th, 2019 with the upgrade alone) would that be the standard $75? Thank you!

Are you all having professors submit via the Credential Assembly Service? Are you reading them or having them sent in without your review?

My score since June has been 161-165. During that time I went through the Trainer again (skimmed), did the Manhattan LR book, drilled individual sections time and untimed, foolproofed LG, and blind review everything I did. Today I took PT 67 and scored 164. What am I doing wrong and how should I approach my studying going forward? Many thanks!

it would seem that many schools have a 2 page limit for the personal statement. Do you guys think i schools will care if i were to make the margins abit bigger to accommodate a bit of a longer essay? i dont think they need to follow a specific format APA..etc, it would seem the only requirement is double space

So I'm kinda stressing out. I have until the November test to get my average above 170 and my actual PT score isn't budging. For reference, PT 68 had my highest BR thus far (177) but I still only managed a 165 timed. The LG section for this PT was very unconventional and I went -7. (I was spinning my tires on that last game). I was able to do the section -0 with ease once the clock was out of the equation. Lots of lessons to be learned there but I'm clearly struggling with time management/making mistakes under pressure.

At this point, what's the best use of my time? I really don't want to submit apps with anything less than a 168 so I'm starting to feel the pressure.

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Hey guys,

I'm taking my first prep test today, and I wanted to clarify what a blind review was.

From my understanding you circle the ones you're entirely unsure of and you review thoses before checking your answers.

However, I plan on blind reviewing the entire test -one section a day, is this a good idea? Moreover, I don't really see myself taking the test until march the earliest or June the latest. I work full time and occasionally i do between 45-and 50 hours a week. my ultimate goal is one prep test a week with one blind review section per day, averaging about 12 hours a week.

I've been through the CC.

is my understanding of BR correct?

is one prep test until june reasonable?

Hey folks, I wanted to post a few questions here that contain “most” relationships in them that are not that common. They collectively might only take 45 minutes to memorize, and who knows: one might show up on your exam and you can get the point! This is part 1 in what I hope is a 3 part series examining weird most relationships.

The first most relationship I want to discuss takes this following form:

Most As are Bs

Most Bs are not As

The following are 2 questions that make use of this relationship, we are asked for a must be true and the answer to both is the same iteration of the must be true.

Pt 77-4-13

Pt 80-1-22

I have left one other question out. As an exercise, I want you, the reader to try to memorize this form and see if you come across it yourself, that way you can see if you have actually retained the memory and understanding of the form and if you would net the point come test day.

Lets take a look at what these two statements mean. Mr. Ping points this process out in the lessons, but it is worth repeating.

Here is an example:

Most people who live in the United States know who The Beatles are

But, most people who know who The Beatles are do not live in the United States

In combination, what must be true here?

Let’s pretend there are 320 people in the United States and lets assign a number constituting “most” of that set to be those who know who The Beatles are: 200. It might be helpful here to view “most” as simply something equal to or more than 51%. So that assignment of 200 is our “most.” This is a very basic way to look at this concept, there might be more thorough ways to look at it, but I think this will work.

Now let’s rephrase that first statement with something more concrete:

200 out of a total of 320 people in the USA know who the Beatles are

Now let’s look at the other statement and its relationship with the first statement:

But, most people who know who The Beatles are do not live in the United States

Here we are looking at the total set of people who know who The Beatles are and we are making a statement about that set: that that 200 we know comes from the United States constitutes less than half, or less than what we are colloquially calling “most” or more specifically, a maximum 49%, this has to be true in order to make room for the number of people that constitute 51% or more not from the USA who know who The Beatles are. So whatever the rest of that set is (not USA): it must be something more than 200, because if it were less, the statement itself would be false. So what raw number constitutes most in one context does not constitute most in another context.

So the second statement tells us that the 200 we have from the USA falls short of most, and the remainder of the total set of people who know who The Beatles are comes from Not USA. So the total set of people who know who The Beatles are might be 1,000 and 200 come from the USA and 800 from elsewhere/not USA. That is a fact pattern commensurate with our statements. A number that constitutes most (200) in one context is less than half in another context.

Most professional Bull riders are from Texas

Most people from Texas are not professional bull riders

This is an example that might make the idea of sets in this context easier to grasp.

Texas has roughly 30 million people, a set much larger than “professional bull riders.”

In one context “most” means something like 180/300 (bull riders)

And in another context “most” would mean something like 16 million (From Texas)

Intuitively, this makes sense, and I submit so does the must be true inference: that there are more people from Texas than there are professional bull riders.

I have designed a small exercise to help demonstrate this point. Below are 3 total sets that reference our Beatles/USA example above, which one is not commensurate with our fact pattern in the stimulus? Here is a reminder of what the fact pattern in the stimulus is:

Most people who live in the United States know who The Beatles are

But, most people who know who The Beatles are do not live in the United States

Total set:700 know who the Beatles are

USA:200/320 know who The Beatles are

Not USA:500 out of a total set of 700 know who the Beatles are

Total set:300 know who the Beatles are

USA:200/320 know who the Beatles are

Not USA:100 out of a total set of 300 know who the Beatles are

Total set:200,000 know who the Beatles are

USA:200/320 know who The Beatles are

Not USA:199,800 out of a total set of 200,000 know who The Beatles are

That’s correct, set (2) does not fit our fact pattern.

Now here is another intuitive example:

Most people who currently attend Harvard Law School are really smart

Yet, most people in the world who are really smart, don’t currently attend Harvard Law school

Intuitively, we know that the second set “really smart” is a much large set than the total group currently attending Harvard Law school.

Now, try applying a fact pattern to the two questions above and see what emerges as a must be true! Keep this form in mind, it might be rare, but getting it correct could be the difference between a 159 and a 160, or getting it correct quickly and efficiently could free up time that could lead to getting 3 questions correct you otherwise might have been pressed for time when you got to.

You know the drill: I'm open to correcting any mistakes I might have made here.

Thank you for reading!

David

I just finished CC across the span of about three to four months (very on and off) and did my first timed PT (Prep Test 62) yesterday. I scored a 154 and BRed a 159 (admittedly, I gave up on some of the Logic Games).

My score by section was:

-13 RC. (-6 BR)

-8 LR. (-5 BR)

-10 LG. (I just completely freeze on Logic Games).

-11 LR. (-9 BR)

I got most questions right on the first two RC passages, but I completely ran out of time by the third and fourth which were far harder.

For Logic Games, I plan on using Pacifico's Logic Games Attack Strategy beginning today so hopefully I'll become a lot more familiar with them soon.

I honestly think I'm just straight up bad at LR. It's a huge hit or miss for me mostly and it's all over the place.

I'm just really worried at this point because I really want to attend Law School next cycle which means the November test is pretty much my only shot. Does anyone have any advice or suggestions on how to make the most use of my time from now until then? Currently, I'm not working either due to family issues so I have pretty much the entire day to focus on prepping. Thank you so much!

Quick question for all you full-time working and part-time studying 7sagers. Do you think it's smart to take PTs after a full day's work? The LSAT is administered in the morning so I imagine it's best to get into the habit of taking timed practice tests in the AM. but for those of us who work full time, that limits us to 1 test a week rather than 2.

Hey future lawyers,

I am in the midst of applying for accommodations for my disease. This condition causes me to have various complications when it comes to concentrating. My condition becomes worse under stress, which is inevitable when taking the LSAT. I was wondering if anyone has requested for accommodations before, and if so how did you go about it? Also I am applying for 100% extra time. However, if I get denied, will they deny me without considering me for 50% extra time? Anyone who has been approved for accommodations, please help!