Hello!

If you have testing accommodations, how do you alter the settings to take the practice digital lsat with the needed extra time?

Thanks!

Hi.

The March LSAT results were in two days ago. I'm so glad to say that I scored a 169!

I know there are plenty of people here with 170+ and yet aiming for a higher score, but I am content with what I've accomplished after a long journey.

I'm an international applicant with a GPA classified as 'Superior.' I'm a traditional and have studied for the LSAT for a whole year.

I went from a 148 diagnostic, to 161 in June 2018, and to a 169 in March.

I was averaging mid-160s before the March test, so my final score took me by a huge surprise.

LR was my biggest weakness, as I started out getting -10 for each section. I improved a lot by drilling by question type and focusing on those types that I had the most difficulty with.

The Blind Review and foolproofing methods worked out wonderfully for me as well. At one point I was wasting my PTs by taking three tests per week, and obviously getting nothing out of each test. Learning the proper BR method was a game changer for me. I started seeing steady improvements in my overall performance.

I just want to say a big thank you to JY and 7Sage for your help.

I'd also like to add that 7Sage works, although the process could be long and wearisome, as it was for me. So don't give up!

Peace out :)

I'm extremely unfamiliar with tablets so please excuse my ignorance, but would something like an Amazon Fire HD or a refurbished-but-dated iPad work for taking digital PTs? I'd prefer to use an actual tablet rather than my computer, but I simply don't have the money to spend on a Microsoft Surface Go (used or otherwise).

Hello7sagers,

I have been experiencing slight anxiety around taking full length practice tests. I can take a full section ..maybe even two timed full sections in a day and it feel fine. However, when I sit down for a full length test I get so much text anxiety that it makes me want to just stop with my entire test. I don't feel ready, but I know that one full test a week along with timed sections throughout the week..of course with thorough review is the way that I will get better. Is there any advice you all have on how to overcome this?

Is it true that some law schools leave an applicant’s application in limbo after it has been submitted and never respond?

I know I've reached out to a few of you over the last few months as I've been struggling in my prep (thank you to those of you who replied with great advice), but I seem to have hit a wall and could use any advice I can get. Sorry in advance, it's a bit of a long post!

I started my LSAT journey in Feb 2017, where I took a diagnostic test a scored a 140. Over the next 10 months I used Powerscore but I didn't really see any improvements and joined the 7Sage community in March 2018. I've been studying full-time since November 2018

Since then, I took about 3 days off and started again, doing retakes and practice tests and drilling sections. I identified my weak areas as being in LR where I needed to really engage with the stimulus and and in RC where I had to make sure I was taking in what was being said (Because in untimed practice I was fine, it was in a timed situation where nothing I was reading seemed to be retaining) and I did drills and figured out strategies to improve. I also read Ellen Cassidy's book and the LSAT trainer because I know these target weak areas such as mine. I'm hesitant to take any more PT's because I don't just want to burn through them.

I've done my best to focus on the learning and inculcating good habits, rather than chasing the score, but I am still stuck on a 158 and my BR is still a168. My aim is to get to a 170+ and I am registered for the June and July exam. I have already put over a year's solid work into this and I don't want to just give up because I know people score 170+ all the time. I know my diagnostic is much lower that the average (that I have seen) and I've realized I take much longer than most people to understand things - but I don't think of myself as dumb or anything, I just have not been able to get my learning to where it needs to be to get my dream score.

Clearly I'm doing something wrong, I'm just not sure what. Any advice on how to proceed would be greatly appreciated :)

I've been re-doing PTs 36-86 and my scores are obviously inflated, so I'm not sure how much I'm actually improving or even getting out of it. Would it be better to focus on PTs 0-36? I've done all the LG but I haven't done the LR/RC except for what was covered in CC. Thanks!

So because of my university final exams stopped studying for the LSAT for a month. I almost finished the LR section in the Syllabus. So mu question is should I go over everything in the syllabus quickly (because im kinda scared that i forgot lots of things because of this 1 month "break") or should I just continue the syllabus?

I keep seeing everyone talk about the CC method and blind review (BR).

What is the CC method, how can it be applied, and is it somehow better than blind review?

So I just scored a 162 on my last PT with a 173 after BR. I've known from the beginning that timing would be my main concern. I'm taking the June LSAT so I don't have the luxury of getting to study and review everything. Trying to figure out what to prioritize....

Im wondering if I should spend the next week going over CC, doing untimed drills, etc or focus on getting faster? If so, do you have any suggestions for study drills to get faster? I was thinking of taking an LR section and giving myself only 1 minute for each question. Or maybe trying to do confidence drills where I pick my first answer and move on without reviewing?

Thank you in advance!

I realize that on the actual test there's no need for this at all, but I often practice sections during my down time at work and like the ability to pause if I get a phone call or something like that. If this has already been addressed somewhere or if it's super obvious, I'm sorry!

Hey all,

Long time lurker here. Now that I am almost done with apps, I figured that it would be nice to give back to the community for once.

So, my background:

Took the LSAT in September, got a score in the mid 160s

Was left with only Preptest 82 and Preptest C2 for my December LSAT

After I received my September scores, I was scared - I mean, I have literally used pretty much every single preptest (except for those two mentioned and yes, I managed to get my hands on the so called unreleased ones as well), and I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to have the necessary practice for the December LSAT.

Guess what? It has been said many times before, but I will say it again - reusing preptests works.

The difference between how I prepped my September LSAT and the December LSAT was that I spent the bulk of my time writing explanations. This might not work for you, but it worked for me - I began to see patterns and if you can explain something in your own words, chances are good that you would know how to tackle something similar to it.

Anyways, on to the day itself. I am not a good standardized test taker, and I freaked out for the logic games section as I was unsure of how to proceed with the first logic game. That said, I looked at it for 2 minutes and I moved on. Probably saved me as I went back later and it was actually a really simple game. Finished the section with 5 minutes remaining. I ran out of time for the logic games section on the September LSAT, and a large part of that was down to NOT SKIPPING GAMES when it is time to move on. So, I would say that skipping is key, and I know that that is something that JY says in his logic games videos a lot, but please, do yourself a favor - skip when necessary!

Phew, long post, but if you made it this far, thanks for hearing me out. I will answer questions on this thread if you guys have any, and for those of you taking the LSAT, good luck and remember to take out the trash (LSAT, I am looking at you)!

LSAT Garbage Man

It's so true: Burnout is real. Headaches are painful. And this material is dense enough that we MUST give it time to sink in! I've been going hard at this since Dec. 9, with hardly a day off at all. So I'm about to leave town, and I'm not going to look at anything to do with the LSAT for the next four days. Peace out!

@admin-3 is there anyway that the downloaded pdf (drills) could be iPad pencil enabled? Printing the drills is getting too much and I’m also traveling. Just wondering. Thanks!

I’m not so sure if I’m doing the right thing. I study full time.

Day 1: Full timed PT + RC and LG drills

Day 2: BR every question + Videos for RC and LG after each passage and game.

Day 3: Review missed questions from both PT and BR.

LR: After 3rd try, I compare the answers with PT and BR after doing one question.

If I made changes, I write down why I made the change, initial reasoning for choosing and eliminating that AC.

Then I watch JY’s video and write down the difference between his approach and mine.

With different color pen I write out where it went wrong, and what I should work on.

Review CC and books, search discussion board for ways to solve that problem. + do 20Q on that question type,

which is NA most of the cases.

I repeat it twice a week, and BR every question part is a bit time consuming. What can I change/do more in the BR process to make it more effective? How should I review 3rd try, if I got it three times wrong?

Hi, all. Longtime lurker, first-time poster.

I’m sitting for the June test and aiming to score over 170. I have been prepping since the end of January and began doing PT’s just over 3 weeks ago, starting out with 162 and 165 on my first two tests (June 2017 and Dec 2015 respectively). Since then I have jumped all over the place (as low as 157 on Sep 2009 two weeks ago and as high as 166 on June 2012 just two days ago) but am shaking out a 162 average.

The trajectory doesn’t look as I had hoped (especially after pulling a 165 on just my second PT), although I have read progress is often not linear. I have a little tutoring assistance that’s so far focused on shoring up LG (I am missing 9 on average, although the initial average was much higher—I am going through foolproofing now). I am missing 8.5 LR on average and 5 RC on average.

With just over 5 weeks to go, I am becoming a bit worried. I am unsure how much my performance is a matter of focus and recognition being below where I need it or how much is comprehension/ability (not that these are necessarily mutually exclusive). At this stage I think I have probably gotten most of the meat out of the major guides and would potentially be wasting valuable time poring through them for info that may not add anything.

Does anyone have any specific recommendations or suggestions on “quick” strategies for shoring things up? For LR, I keep reading about pre-phrasing but have not tried it intently. With RC (legendary for being almost impossible to improve) I have gotten the basic advice to read paragraphs twice, remember that most answers are not really inferences but are actually in the text, etc. but I think this alone is too basic.

Any suggestions anyone might have would be greatly appreciated!

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So, I finished the 7Sage course last week and took my first PT today. I was nervous and a bit panicky throughout the test. I got a 148, even after the course... has anyone else gotten this low even after taking the full course? Also, I took the course seriously and did not half-ass it...

I will be taking the real LSAT this December which leaves me with roughly 3.5 months to grind out more PTs. The law school I am trying to get into accepts on average scores of 158-162. I want to be able to reach 160 so I can be on the safe side. How likely is it for me to reach that goal in this time frame? I will be taking 12 hours of classes, with no job. You can be mean...I just want to know a straight up answer.

What to say when you've been studying for a long time but you're not ready? Thanks in advance for your advice on this. I know it's not a totally new thread. It's something I need to revisit though. Trying to find the right thing to say.

Hey guys, I'm very new to 7Sage, but have found the discussion and resources to be a invaluable supplement to my LSAT studies. I apologize if something like this has been asked before, but I couldn't find it in a search, so please forgive me if I'm being redundant.

To be short, I'm graduating college in May and looking to take a gap year before attending law school, meaning my goal is to be part of the next (Fall 2019) admissions cycle. I'm planning on taking the June LSAT, since it's the last disclosed test on the schedule. I began studying at the beginning of March using the LSAT Trainer (I was totally clueless and had read that 12-weeks was a solid amount of time), and had been feeling fairly confident about my progression/habits until I stumbled upon a 7Sage podcast. You guys do some incredibly airtight review and in-depth studying, and I've begun incorporating a lot of these habits into my process (blind review, fool-proofing, etc).

What I've noticed, though, is that the time horizons for 7Sagers are generally longer than what I am looking at (3-months for June LSAT, potentially up to 6-months if I retake in September). I also sort of shocked myself and got a 167 diagnostic. I didn't want to put too much weight into that score in case it was a fluke, but I do seem to be testing at around a 166 - 171 level right now. Given my limited time and the fact that I feel fairly confident with my progression, is it wise for me to go the whole 9 yards and ensure that I'm fool-proofing everything ten times and blind-reviewing for hours on end, or should I only do these things for the question types I've identified as problematic? I don't want to half-ass this process, but I also spent 5 or 6 hours yesterday fool-proofing ten or so questions and worry that perhaps I could have cut that in half and used my energy on another problem area.

I understand this is a unique situation, and I anticipate a lot of the responses to be something along the lines of "extend your time frame," but please treat this like a logic game ... given THESE conditions, what do you guys suggest?

(That being said, I'm certainly not opposed to treating June like a trial and taking again in September, but I'll have more limited time once I start working in mid-June).

Thanks so much!

So I got my score today from the March 30th administration. Long story short I'm not satisfied with my results and I'm preparing to take the July 15th test. I'm to the point in my prep where its practice, practice, practice with proper blind review. My blind review scores are on point with my target score but my actual is still behind. Before I make a mistake and continue practicing the way I have been, with timed sections/blind review, preptest/blind review, is there any advice or suggestions I should consider? Is there something more I could be doing? I just want to make sure I'm making the most of my study time before the next administration. Thanks!

Hey Everyone!

Two questions:

1.) Is there a way to erase all of my notes without going in to each one and deleting them? I am wanting to start from scratch.

2.) Have you ever just restarted the core curriculum from scratch? I am 24% into it, the furthest I have gotten to date. I've also restarted it 2 times. I am terrified of going to the practice exams without FULLY completely understanding the core curriculum. I've also been back and forth on whether to take the LSAT, but I keep coming back to it because I think I ultimately want to do it but just get scared.

All advice is welcome and appreciated.

Thanks!

Lindsey

Rather than regale you with a narrative about personal triumph through adversity i thought it would be more worthy of your time to explain how i increased my lsat score by 13 points.

Started with a 157 3 years ago, re wrote the lsat last November and got a 161. Discovered 7 sage shortly after and subsequently got a 166 and a 170 on the following lsats.

How did i get here?

I viewed jy's videos religiously. Not just for lg but for LR and occasionally RC. I tried to understand Jy's thought process , how he approached questions and how eliminated wrong answer choices. I did all the pts past pt50 as well. If you are not an ultimate member, think about upgrading. It is a worthy investment

I kept a log of all the lr questions I got wrong and audited my thought process after every PT. (Shout out to @hawaiihi for this idea) The value of a thorough BR is priceless. Do not just concentrate on why answer choices are right, look at the wrong answer choices and figure out why they are wrong. I also reviewed every question , even those i got right. Just in case i hit on a false positive where i got the right answer through improper methods. Process not results matter

I started to BR with others.

The best way to iron out your reasoning is to say it out loud to others, and no one is more discerning of reasoning than other sagers. I started a br group and we br'd pts on a weekly basis. This really helped fill in the gaps in my thinking process, br'ing with others shone a light on my heuristical blind-spots and gave me the edge i needed to transition from the 160's to the 170's. If you are aiming for a 97th percentile score I highly suggest you br with others.

I started a group chat and vowed to answer every question that came my way. I figured if I could not teach a concept , I did not know it well enough. This let me randomly review concepts as at any given moment questions would appear, the lsat was always on my mind. More importantly the group chat kept me sane as i knew there were other people out there going through the same struggles. I love my group chat, they are lovely people and seeing their success after the March results came in made me happier than any individual achievement ever could.

I hate to plug a competing product but the lsat trainer is magical, if you do not have it buy it right now.

The group chat is still going as there are still folks on there who are writing in june and july you can join us here.

https://chat.whatsapp.com/HEr9S37YrIFBZNN6w4pFpZ

I also still join the june BR sessions (https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/19448/june-2019-br-study-group-updated)

I've also committed to hosting a br of pt 41 on sunday (the post is on the first page of the webforum)

I'm going to stick around for awhile to pay it forward. This site has been life changing

Since my BR score is still way above my actual PT score, and I'm still experiencing panic every time I face LG timed, I'm considering seeking other kinds of help. I've heard good things about EMDR therapy helping with test anxiety. Anyone know anything about this?

Just wondering if anybody who has had the LSAT starter course was able to get a 168 or higher. If so, what are some of your tips? Would love to hear your experiences towards a 168+