So I'm doing 3 PT's a week, and I do the whole process in a single day (test, BR, and review) which means I'm dedicated 3 whole days a week to the PT'S... But then that leaves by 4 days of nothing. What should I be doing in these days in between? I don't want to waste PT's by making them practice drills instead, but I also don't want to use the fake questions as drills. I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions and what you guys do once you're done CC? thanks guys!!
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Hello! I have a question about the study schedule. I plan on taking the November 2018 test as well as the January 2019 test. Would it be best to follow the five month plan or the seven month plan?
Hi, So I am preparing for the July 2018 LSAT
and am wondering when the June 2018 LSAT would be released by JY for practice.
Does anyone know?
I know I'm in a tough spot. I decide to take my first lsat without much study while I was in undergrad and scored in the 140s. After that, I decided to work for a few years post-under grad and I improved decently. 160>164>164. My most recent retake in June 2018 was supposed to be my very last one--I was hoping to score in the range of 167-171 which is the average range of my practice tests. At this point, I've been studying for the LSAT on and off for 1.5 years. My goal is to reach 170 but I'm wondering whether I've actually hit my limitations with my test.
I know this type of situation is unconventional on 7sage since most people on here are usually scoring high consistently and only need a few takes to reach their goal. I feel incredibly defeated and wonder if I should just settle for a regional school rather than aiming for T-20s. I'm not applying until next cycle, so I can potentially retake but I'd love to hear honest advice regarding my situation. I've studied with almost every practice test there is so there's also the question of having fresh study material in the event that I do decide to retake a fifth time.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts you can offer!
So I originally sent a thank you directly to 7Sage, and Akiko encouraged me to post about it here in the hopes of helping/encouraging others.
I will try to keep this short, but I want to start by just saying a huge thank you again to the entire 7Sage team for all their work on this site, and especially to JY for all of his videos as well as the recent month-long RC review he held leading up to the exam. Those RC calls were strangely a lot of fun and I know they definitely helped me and others a lot. I would also like to thank people like @"Cant Get Right" and @Daniel.Sieradzki for their LR and RC sessions last year, and @Sami and @"Leah M B" for helping me out with mindset-related issues leading up to the test.
I started out with a somewhat inflated diagnostic score of 153 (I didn't use a bubbling sheet and had some questionable timekeeping practices). After that diagnostic, I stopped studying for about a year to finish up college. In 2017 I started studying again more seriously and after about 9 months with 7Sage, while working full-time, I scored a 170 on the June 2018 exam.
I feel like I made some definite mistakes in my prep, but also did a few things well, so if anyone is interested I could potentially offer some help. I am by no means an LSAT expert, but if possible I would love to help anyone I can to tackle this crazy test. Along those lines, please feel free to PM me or leave a comment if there is anything I may be able to answer or help out with.
Thanks again!
I am currently registered for a prep course with Manhattan Prep. (My folks paid for the course. I would've stopped going a long time ago.) Now, I've completed about 85% of the 7Sage CC. In terms of LR, I'm pretty good at paraphrasing, brainstorming what the answers should entail, narrowing the answer choices down to two, but I tend to fall for the trap answer (I started studying full-time on May 21, 2018). My LSAT prep class is very small, and I find it helpful because I can use it as a way to express lawgic and assure that I am understanding the material. However, I find that after every other class, my instructor is always making a comment about 7Sage (I revealed to him early on that I started studying with 7Sage three weeks prior to the first class). For instance, in our most recent class we learned about In/Out games. Manhattan Prep has their own method to solving In/Out games that I had to just completely disregard because... what the fuck. Why anyone would choose to not chain the rules, then do the same for the contrapositives (leaving you with two diagrams) is beyond me. Once I reverted to using the method that I know (and love!) I felt significant pressure from my instructor. And when one of my classmates got to an answer before me (which doesn't phase me at all), I even heard and saw my instructor giggling in a mocking way. I guess I am writing this because I am in need of some encouragement... Any and all advice/criticism is welcomed. I am definitely someone who can take it. Thank you! :-)
I am searching for some advice on handling doubt.
I am doing very well on PT's, average anywhere from 7-12 wrong per test. However, of the 100ish questions, I feel very confident about 80 of them, leaving 20% of the test I am not 100% sure of. And of those 20 questions I am unsure of, I get 50+% right.
So what I'm asking for is, is that just normal? Because most times I grade a test I am expecting the worst and mostly end up with 170+ PT's. It's just such a weird feeling to be doing well and yet not feeling as confident as I should be.
Did anyone take the June test at NCCU, School of Law? How was the desk, the proctor, and the noise level? How long did it take from arrival to test?
Thanks in advance.
I have found that listening to soundtracks really helps boost my concentration at times, but I don't want to develop a habit of being able to concentrate only when music is playing. This is only for studying and reviewing concept, not during my PTs, but should I still stay away from listening to anything at all?
Thanks.
What do you guys use? The sites I found like US news make you pay to see a lot...
I messed up RC on the June exam. Walked away thinking I did pretty good but ended up getting 5 wrong on the last passage alone and -8 for the entire RC. I was PTing -2/-4 on the recent PT’s
That is exactly where I started when I first did a RC section almost two years ago and after many long hours of studying it didn’t do me any good on that exam.
In the process of studying I have completed every single PT except for PT 83.
What do you guys think is the best strategy for now until the July exam?
Thanks!
Hey - I know the writing sample doesn’t get as much attention as the rest of the lsat , but how did everyone prepare for that section ? Did you only prep for it while taking the pt
Tears. That's how this all started and feels like that's how it's just going to keep continuing.
The thought of wanting to be an attorney never occurred to me as a child until I had to sit through the medical malpractice case after my dad passed away from a doctor's stupid case. I was 12 years old, bawling my eyes out and in order to stop making a fool out of myself, I decided to concentrate hard on our attorney's opening statement. I fell in love with the field after that. Ask me about any SCOTUS decision, and I"ll tell you the rules they used, the dissents, and the facts of the case.
Flash forward 9 years later, I'm in my room, bawling my eyes out at my LSAT score.
Kind of funny, isn't it? The irony of it all?
It's so freaking frustrating.
I have a UGPA of a 2.88 (upward trend to a 3.45 by the end of my last year) all because I had a severe case of iron deficiency anemia (that had left me bruised up all over at one point) that went undiagnosed and left my brain constantly feeling foggy/ wasn't able to concentrate. Once I had the ability to see a doctor (thanks, Obama) I was diagnosed and that's where you were able to see that upward trend in my grades.
My first lsat was a 149.
My second lsat was canceled because the testing center was loud.
My third lsat was a 148 (I'm fully convinced this was a bubbling error)
My fourth? a 152.
I've ran local and statewide campaigns, have an impressive resume that ranges from AmeriCorps to non-profit work. I work at a law firm now. Helped organized food drives for our homeless community. Have a clean background.
I freaking LOVE the law. As much as everyone hates it, I wish I was in law school. I envy everyone that is.
Why is this so difficult?
I just .. I don't know what I"m doing posting this, but I guess I'm just looking for advice. Words of wisdom. Anything.
Much love to the 7sage community. You all keep me sane, nonetheless.
In the Blind Review topic, J.Y. talks about cutting out certain questions that you get wrong. Is there a summary anywhere of when to do this? He talks about doing this a lot, but I don't think I'd be able to remember when to actually do it.
Hi everyone. This is my first time posting a discussion.. and I'm a little nervous. But anyways, here goes nothing. Does having a graduate degree make you stand out when applying to law school? I can go to a local university, be done in 2 years, and with my mom being a Professor I wouldn't pay. I am already taking this year off to study for the LSAT and I'm looking to take it in November.
Hey Sagers,
I currently have the starter pack and I am about 1/2 through the games portion of the CC. I am pretty solid on games. The section where I think I stand the most to gain is LR. RC is not that strong however I have made some big improvements. So I am not too concerned with RC. Also, I think RC comes a little easier when you are proficient in LR. The dilemma is whether or not to upgrade. I have two copies of PT 7- 50s. So it really comes down to the drill packs, PTs 60-80s, and the explanations. The extra PTs will cost somewhere around $70. The upgrade is $570. So I'd be paying $500 for the explanations and the drill packs. JY's explantations have been very helpful more so than the Manhattan and Powerscore forums. I am taking the September Test.
Has anyone been in a similar situation and upgraded? Was it worth it?
Also are the RC explanations of the same quality as the LR?
Thanks!
I took the June 2018 LSAT and scored right at the low end of where I want to be. I plan on retaking in September. Any advice on how best to prep in the next couple of months? I feel like I set myself up really well for the test in June and I am out of fresh PTs to use. Thoughts?
So guys, what were your verdicts? I'm curious to hear the stories/vents... has anyone taken a step back, and has perhaps consider the GRE as an alternative? Or are you guys more motivated than ever to show the next test that you're going to destroy it? Regardless. I'd love to hear from anyone who is willing to express their experience from today!
For those of you who are planning to take the LSAT this September and want to apply early this cycle (I'm thinking early/mid October), how are you balancing prepping your materials (particularly your PS/addendums/diversity statements/Why school x? etc. and your study time? I'm planning on dedicating the majority of my time to the LSAT but also don't want to end up freaking out when Sept. 9th comes around if I don't have any solid drafts prepped.
I started studying for the LSAT in early March and just recently took the international June LSAT. In the weeks leading up to the test, I consistently PTed around 168-171 (worst at 167, best at 176). During the real test, however, I panicked on the reading section and ended up completely guessing about 8 questions. Reading is already my worst section, so, if I take into consideration my usual scores in each section, I think I would get around 162-165 for this exam.
If I am considering only the T14 schools, would it be better for me to cancel this score and attempt 170+ on the next exam or just accept a low/mid-160s score and then attempt a 170+?
It's an undisclosed test, so I really wouldn't learn anything new about my performance by keeping the score. Canceling, on the other hand, already seems like an admission of failure. I'm not sure what the law schools would think. What do you guys think?
Hey guys! I hope you're all doing well! I just wanted to ask if any of you guys take anti depressants and if so, if it affects your studying at all? Or if anyone has suffered from depression and anxiety and how that fared with preparing for this test. I'm asking because although I have been taking an antidepressant (wellbutrin/dopamine reuptake inhibitor) now for over a year, my doctor has recently prescribed to me an SSRI, serotonin medication. This actually isn't for my depression as I've been pretty content and not depressed for a while now, thankfully. But this new medicine is to help me treat my OCD. I ask because SSRIs are typically used to treat depression.
I've had my prescription filled for my new medicine and haven't taken it yet. I wanted to hear if any of ya'll have prepared for a big test like this while taking antidepressants and battling mental health issues since they affect concentration, sleep quality, appetite, etc. Also, I know this is a sensitive topic so I am sorry if anything said in this thread is offensive! xx
Proctors: There was a main proctor who spoke, and multiple volunteers to make signing in, handing out and handing in materials go very smooth.
Facilities: The college is nice. It's huge and modern. We had some issues with people getting in without a key card, however, so those of us who found a way in early had to keep opening the doors for everyone else coming to test, until security showed up and fixed the door. Bathrooms were just down from the testing room, and there was some seating while we waited (although not enough once everyone arrived).
What kind of room: It's a very large classroom or presentation room with tables set end to end in rows. Sound didn't echo, so that was nice. It was extremely quiet.
How many in the room: 100+
Desks: They were tables set up end to end in long rows. The seats were like padded folding chairs and fairly comfortable. There were number placeholders, and you went to your randomly assigned seat based on what number you received.
Left-handed accommodation: Yes. They moved left handed testers to accommodate them.
Noise levels: Super quiet.
Parking: There was free parking available on site.
Time elapsed from arrival to test: I got there very early, so I'll just say what the actual testing experience seemed to take. About 5 ½ hours.
Irregularities or mishaps: They let some people in with hoodies, which I thought was not allowed? A student had to leave (emergency?), but then tried to come back after we had started filling out the paperwork portion. They handled it appropriately and did not let him come back in, as once you leave like that, you aren't allowed back. I think some of the volunteers walked the aisles at some point, so that was a little weird.
Other comments: Overall, it was great conditions for testing. Very quiet, comfortable enough, and there was enough room. Once we were all seated and settled, we were allowed to space out or move if there were empty spaces in our rows. That helped significantly.
Would you take the test here again? Yes
Date[s] of Exam[s]: June 2018
I have a question relating to an experience I'm sure many of you have experienced. I started PT'ing in the late 30's and 40's and my score increasingly went up, starting from mid-160's to a high of 170. Then I decided to take PT 78 and my score dropped to a 163. I made the jump because I'm taking the exam in July and wanted to do fresher PTs.
For those of you whose scores dropped from PTs in the 40's to those in the 70's, what did you notice were the patterns that made the questions more difficult, and what strategies did you use to get your scores back up?
Does anyone know how soon PT 84 (June 2018) will be available on 7sage?