I am searching for some advice on handling doubt.

I am doing very well on PT's, average anywhere from 7-12 wrong per test. However, of the 100ish questions, I feel very confident about 80 of them, leaving 20% of the test I am not 100% sure of. And of those 20 questions I am unsure of, I get 50+% right.

So what I'm asking for is, is that just normal? Because most times I grade a test I am expecting the worst and mostly end up with 170+ PT's. It's just such a weird feeling to be doing well and yet not feeling as confident as I should be.

Did anyone take the June test at NCCU, School of Law? How was the desk, the proctor, and the noise level? How long did it take from arrival to test?

Thanks in advance.

I have found that listening to soundtracks really helps boost my concentration at times, but I don't want to develop a habit of being able to concentrate only when music is playing. This is only for studying and reviewing concept, not during my PTs, but should I still stay away from listening to anything at all?

Thanks.

What do you guys use? The sites I found like US news make you pay to see a lot...

I messed up RC on the June exam. Walked away thinking I did pretty good but ended up getting 5 wrong on the last passage alone and -8 for the entire RC. I was PTing -2/-4 on the recent PT’s

That is exactly where I started when I first did a RC section almost two years ago and after many long hours of studying it didn’t do me any good on that exam.

In the process of studying I have completed every single PT except for PT 83.

What do you guys think is the best strategy for now until the July exam?

Thanks!

Hey - I know the writing sample doesn’t get as much attention as the rest of the lsat , but how did everyone prepare for that section ? Did you only prep for it while taking the pt

Tears. That's how this all started and feels like that's how it's just going to keep continuing.

The thought of wanting to be an attorney never occurred to me as a child until I had to sit through the medical malpractice case after my dad passed away from a doctor's stupid case. I was 12 years old, bawling my eyes out and in order to stop making a fool out of myself, I decided to concentrate hard on our attorney's opening statement. I fell in love with the field after that. Ask me about any SCOTUS decision, and I"ll tell you the rules they used, the dissents, and the facts of the case.

Flash forward 9 years later, I'm in my room, bawling my eyes out at my LSAT score.

Kind of funny, isn't it? The irony of it all?

It's so freaking frustrating.

I have a UGPA of a 2.88 (upward trend to a 3.45 by the end of my last year) all because I had a severe case of iron deficiency anemia (that had left me bruised up all over at one point) that went undiagnosed and left my brain constantly feeling foggy/ wasn't able to concentrate. Once I had the ability to see a doctor (thanks, Obama) I was diagnosed and that's where you were able to see that upward trend in my grades.

My first lsat was a 149.

My second lsat was canceled because the testing center was loud.

My third lsat was a 148 (I'm fully convinced this was a bubbling error)

My fourth? a 152.

I've ran local and statewide campaigns, have an impressive resume that ranges from AmeriCorps to non-profit work. I work at a law firm now. Helped organized food drives for our homeless community. Have a clean background.

I freaking LOVE the law. As much as everyone hates it, I wish I was in law school. I envy everyone that is.

Why is this so difficult?

I just .. I don't know what I"m doing posting this, but I guess I'm just looking for advice. Words of wisdom. Anything.

Much love to the 7sage community. You all keep me sane, nonetheless.

In the Blind Review topic, J.Y. talks about cutting out certain questions that you get wrong. Is there a summary anywhere of when to do this? He talks about doing this a lot, but I don't think I'd be able to remember when to actually do it.

Hi everyone. This is my first time posting a discussion.. and I'm a little nervous. But anyways, here goes nothing. Does having a graduate degree make you stand out when applying to law school? I can go to a local university, be done in 2 years, and with my mom being a Professor I wouldn't pay. I am already taking this year off to study for the LSAT and I'm looking to take it in November.

Hey Sagers,

I currently have the starter pack and I am about 1/2 through the games portion of the CC. I am pretty solid on games. The section where I think I stand the most to gain is LR. RC is not that strong however I have made some big improvements. So I am not too concerned with RC. Also, I think RC comes a little easier when you are proficient in LR. The dilemma is whether or not to upgrade. I have two copies of PT 7- 50s. So it really comes down to the drill packs, PTs 60-80s, and the explanations. The extra PTs will cost somewhere around $70. The upgrade is $570. So I'd be paying $500 for the explanations and the drill packs. JY's explantations have been very helpful more so than the Manhattan and Powerscore forums. I am taking the September Test.

Has anyone been in a similar situation and upgraded? Was it worth it?

Also are the RC explanations of the same quality as the LR?

Thanks!

I took the June 2018 LSAT and scored right at the low end of where I want to be. I plan on retaking in September. Any advice on how best to prep in the next couple of months? I feel like I set myself up really well for the test in June and I am out of fresh PTs to use. Thoughts?

So guys, what were your verdicts? I'm curious to hear the stories/vents... has anyone taken a step back, and has perhaps consider the GRE as an alternative? Or are you guys more motivated than ever to show the next test that you're going to destroy it? Regardless. I'd love to hear from anyone who is willing to express their experience from today!

For those of you who are planning to take the LSAT this September and want to apply early this cycle (I'm thinking early/mid October), how are you balancing prepping your materials (particularly your PS/addendums/diversity statements/Why school x? etc. and your study time? I'm planning on dedicating the majority of my time to the LSAT but also don't want to end up freaking out when Sept. 9th comes around if I don't have any solid drafts prepped.

I started studying for the LSAT in early March and just recently took the international June LSAT. In the weeks leading up to the test, I consistently PTed around 168-171 (worst at 167, best at 176). During the real test, however, I panicked on the reading section and ended up completely guessing about 8 questions. Reading is already my worst section, so, if I take into consideration my usual scores in each section, I think I would get around 162-165 for this exam.

If I am considering only the T14 schools, would it be better for me to cancel this score and attempt 170+ on the next exam or just accept a low/mid-160s score and then attempt a 170+?

It's an undisclosed test, so I really wouldn't learn anything new about my performance by keeping the score. Canceling, on the other hand, already seems like an admission of failure. I'm not sure what the law schools would think. What do you guys think?

Hey guys! I hope you're all doing well! I just wanted to ask if any of you guys take anti depressants and if so, if it affects your studying at all? Or if anyone has suffered from depression and anxiety and how that fared with preparing for this test. I'm asking because although I have been taking an antidepressant (wellbutrin/dopamine reuptake inhibitor) now for over a year, my doctor has recently prescribed to me an SSRI, serotonin medication. This actually isn't for my depression as I've been pretty content and not depressed for a while now, thankfully. But this new medicine is to help me treat my OCD. I ask because SSRIs are typically used to treat depression.

I've had my prescription filled for my new medicine and haven't taken it yet. I wanted to hear if any of ya'll have prepared for a big test like this while taking antidepressants and battling mental health issues since they affect concentration, sleep quality, appetite, etc. Also, I know this is a sensitive topic so I am sorry if anything said in this thread is offensive! xx

Proctors: There was a main proctor who spoke, and multiple volunteers to make signing in, handing out and handing in materials go very smooth.

Facilities: The college is nice. It's huge and modern. We had some issues with people getting in without a key card, however, so those of us who found a way in early had to keep opening the doors for everyone else coming to test, until security showed up and fixed the door. Bathrooms were just down from the testing room, and there was some seating while we waited (although not enough once everyone arrived).

What kind of room: It's a very large classroom or presentation room with tables set end to end in rows. Sound didn't echo, so that was nice. It was extremely quiet.

How many in the room: 100+

Desks: They were tables set up end to end in long rows. The seats were like padded folding chairs and fairly comfortable. There were number placeholders, and you went to your randomly assigned seat based on what number you received.

Left-handed accommodation: Yes. They moved left handed testers to accommodate them.

Noise levels: Super quiet.

Parking: There was free parking available on site.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: I got there very early, so I'll just say what the actual testing experience seemed to take. About 5 ½ hours.

Irregularities or mishaps: They let some people in with hoodies, which I thought was not allowed? A student had to leave (emergency?), but then tried to come back after we had started filling out the paperwork portion. They handled it appropriately and did not let him come back in, as once you leave like that, you aren't allowed back. I think some of the volunteers walked the aisles at some point, so that was a little weird.

Other comments: Overall, it was great conditions for testing. Very quiet, comfortable enough, and there was enough room. Once we were all seated and settled, we were allowed to space out or move if there were empty spaces in our rows. That helped significantly.

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: June 2018

I have a question relating to an experience I'm sure many of you have experienced. I started PT'ing in the late 30's and 40's and my score increasingly went up, starting from mid-160's to a high of 170. Then I decided to take PT 78 and my score dropped to a 163. I made the jump because I'm taking the exam in July and wanted to do fresher PTs.

For those of you whose scores dropped from PTs in the 40's to those in the 70's, what did you notice were the patterns that made the questions more difficult, and what strategies did you use to get your scores back up?

Does anyone know how soon PT 84 (June 2018) will be available on 7sage?

hey all,

so i hear a lot of ppl say the benefits of REDOING practice tests. Given that one still has like 20-30 fresh PT's and a limited amount of study, how does one balance between doing PT retakes and doing new practice tests? Or should you just not do any PT retakes and just wait till you finish all your fresh PTs?

This is leads to my second question. I've heard a lot of good things about confidence drills. How often should you do confidence drills? Once a week? Twice a week? Are confidence drills just 1 LR section of extremely reckless and fast -- or do you do multiple sections of confidence drills back to back? Do ppl do confidence drills in RC?

Thanks!

I could not leave my reply under lessons or comments, and I don't know why. I use 3 different kinds of browsers, and clear the cookies in every browsers, but it doesn't work. Every time that I click reply, it shows EDIT remaining time until 0:00, then when I check it again, it shows nothing. I don't know how to deal with that. Could anyone help me with that?

How is understanding the logic behind why answer choices are right or wrong regarding a specific LR question going to help me on the next test? I'm not criticizing the process, I'm just trying to find out how to minimize mistakes for future exams, hence get better. Is this process subconsciously training my mind to think about these questions, and thereby developing my LSAT skills, or am I supposed to be picking up conscious strategies for future questions? For those of you who employed the BR process to a solid score, did you just passively begin to get better the more and more you blind reviewed your tests over time, or did you consciously cultivate specific strategies for particular types of problems?

Hello All,

I recently just finished my first preparation test yesterday evening. Now I am preparing to do the blind review method on the questions. However, I have a question concerning the practical framework of this review. I would like to know how an individual will be able to measure their "raw" score (the initial score after completing the preparation exam), if the blind review method recommends for an individual to avoid scoring the test until the end of the review? I want to make sure that I am correctly measuring my improvement going forward. So if anyone could help me understand this process more clearly, I would greatly appreciate it.

I’m beginning to think that law school is not for me and I will never be able to reach my goal of a 170.

I work full time so I cannot dedicate a huge amount of time to studying during the week. However, I began learning the test material last July but have only switched to using 7Sage this January. Initially I was just using it as a supplement to my study material from another company but soon realized that 7Sage is superior and fits my style of learning a lot better. So I have been using it exclusively ever since. I have to be honest that I skipped sections of the CC (certain question types and LG) because I have taken a full length LSAT course and have done a decent amount of drills before switching to 7Sage.

I took a five section test (from more recent years) this past Saturday and scored the same as when I did in January. -2 LG, -10 RC, and -17 LR. I have narrowed RC to -4 to -6 and LR to -7 to -10 on PTs 35-45 before. Even though I’m not sure what happened but I don’t think this is an anomaly because I have had similar disastrous performance on the more recent PTs. How can the PTs be this different?

What should I do? I don’t even know what to focus on anymore. I refuse to believe that I have hit my own ceiling, but have I? All the comfort and confidence I built up from previous PTs are all of a sudden go.

I do a mixture of timed and untimed sections, primarily LRs and RCs throughout the week, along with additional drills from CC if necessary; and a full length PT on the weekend. I take my time to BR and watch video explanations. What am I doing wrong? How is it possible that I have not made significant progress since January? Please help me. I feel disappointed and mostly, so lost. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

hey all,

i was just wondering if everyone else also felt the the toughness of this test.

for me, it takes approximately 15 hours to complete 1 prep test cycle.

This consists of: 3 hours to take the test, 4 hours to blind review the entire test, 4 hours to check answers and review the test (watch video explanations, etc), and then 3 hours to watch my video footage of me taking this test.

Man, it's a ton of work -- just for one PT. And then I try to improve my weaknesses and then rinse and repeat.

So if I were to do 30 PT's, then this would take me 30 * 15 hours = 450 hours.

Man this is tough. I was wondering if others felt the same way .. or if anyone had any advice/suggestions/comments, etc. Thanks!

I've also heard from individuals like @"Cant Get Right" that in the end they were performing at a rate where they didn't even have to blind review anymore (they just did the blind review during within the time allotted of the test).

How long did it take to get to that point where you could feasibly do a test and completely review it in just 1 day? (currently, it takes me approximately 2-3 days to fully review a test).

I'm trying to figure out whether I should register for an LSAT date, but also trying to see if I can reach my goal score within that target period. I'm currently BR'ing at about my target score (mid 170s), but I just don't know if I can get my target score to my BR score by like July for example.

I've done all PT's as drills from 19-40, so I have 50-80 to do as full PT's, and I'm trying to create a PT schedule to aim to do all of them. Should I do aim to all 30 of those PT's? Currently it takes me like 3-4 days to complete a PT cycle... I really want though to be able to do more PT's and to get faster at this PT cycle (eventually bringing it to like 1-2 days to complete a PT cycle) and to finally just take this test (I've been studying for about a year). How long does it take to get to that point?

Sorry fo the rambling thoughts. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated! thanks! :) you guys are the best 7sage!

Should you aim to do every single PT in the past 10 years? (From PT's 50-80?)

How do you know when you're ready to take this test?

Or another question, how do you know when you're ready to REGISTER to take this test?

I really want to register for like the September test date, but I just don't know if I'll ACTUALLY be ready by then.

Currently BR score is in mid 170s, timed scores 160s fluctuating a lot. I've drilled all PT's from 19-40 and have completed PT's 40-50.

I am hoping to try to do all PT's from 50-80 these next few weeks, but it's a lot of material and I don't know if I can cover all of it.

Any advice, suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!