I apologize if this has already been answered but I could really use some clarification. I have searched through the forums many times and cannot seem to find a definitive answer on whether or not you should be timing your problem sets. I am about 80% through the CC for LR and I have not timed any problem sets. For many question types I have only done every other problem set to find my strengths and weaknesses so I still have plenty I can do timed. Unless I missed JY mentioning the time for problem sets somewhere in the CC, I have not seen anything about how long each set should take us. Currently, I am mainly focusing on understanding the questions types and how to properly answer them than I am the time, however I am wondering how long I should be timing each one.

I am also getting all of my materials ready for drills and I have the same question about timing. For the question types I struggle with I go through the question bank and use PTs 1-44. I plan on using PTs 45-59 for drills and I plan on taking PTs 60-83. I feel like in general I have a good plan but I am so confused on how long I should be timing each question. Anyone know this information or can point me to where it is located?

Hey all,

The past few PT's I've written have been encouraging and well within what I'm hoping to score in Feb. (166 on PT 78, 165 on PT 69, 164 on PT 71, 164 on PT 76). A couple weeks ago I scored a 160 on PT 72 and today I scored a 162 on PT 79. I'm hoping the 160 was an outlier because I felt sort of groggy that day, but at the same time I don't want to be making excuses for myself. And as for today's PT, I'm concerned that it dropped a 2 full points from what I was scoring prior to that.

Are small drops like this relatively normal and not a cause for concern if I'm aiming for 163-164?. I probably shouldn't be stressing too hard about my PT scores anyway because I know what I know at this point lol. Just wondering if anyone has words of wisdom to pass along to ease my anxiety haha!! (Also if it's relevant to know, I scored a 161 on the Dec.2017 LSAT).

In the meantime, I should probably be meditating and momentarily erasing everything about the LSAT from my mind, I can't wait for Feb. 10th to be done.

Thx for reading and good luck to everyone writing in Feb! :)

Hello everyone! This thread doesn't really have anything to do with the test haha. I just wanted to share that a lot of the time when I come on websites like 7sage & TLS, I get a bit anxious especially if I'm not having a very good studying day myself or if I'm just not in a confident mood. One of my friends taking the MCAT began crying after reading a forum on Student Doctor Network and having a stressed day. Haha so I'm guessing certain reactions to sites like these is somewhat common.

SO, I wanted to start a thread learning more about ya'll besides law school stuff since I've been on 7sage for over a year now and don't know much about anyone besides their ballpark PT score and personal statement glimpses...

Anyways, I'm 21 years old. I just graduated in the class of 2017 and I live in nyc. When I'm not studying, I like to read. I'm really into feminism and critical theory regarding gender studies and sociology. I also enjoy reading the New Yorker. I spend three days a week at the gym and I'm obsessed with skincare. Haha like essential oils and moisturizing creams. Sephora is like a sanctuary to me. I'm also a huge film junkie! I minored in film studies. I mostly love foreign films and avantgarde/experimental movies! English is my native language but I can also speak Mandarin-Chinese and have been studying/learning French alongside my LSAT studying.

Finally, if anyone would wanna respond introducing themselves (though I understand if you'd like to remain anonymous) and their interests and etc, I would really love that!!!! (3 And also tell me what your favorite movie is!! Mine is Ghost World dir. Terry Zwigoff.(/p)

Hello everyone,

I took 3 pts so far and my score have been the same (154).

In the example “All lions like to nap. Most lions like to eat meat. Therefore, some animals that like to eat meat also like to nap.”

I’m a little confused how we go from lions specifically to animals in general?

Hi all. First time posting, so if i do/say something obnoxious, please spare me.

I self studied for the lsat for about 8 months (from february till the past september) and took the september lsat. I was also stupid during this time and decided to take the june test when I wasnt prepared at all and was way overconfident in my abilities (When i took the test, my average was probably a 170, but that was a 170 average by taking only 4 section tests instead of 5 section ones, and practicing without bubbling (which can cost over a minute a section)). In the end, I also wasn't feeling so well on the test day and I got a 163. Obviously that sucks, but I totally understand the 7 point drop from my average, simply because that was a very inflated average score and i wasnt able to perform at 100%.

During my time studying, i had a bunch of ups and downs, but by the end (as in, between july and september), i was consistently scoring in the 175+ range. I had used almost all the powerscore materials, had been using 7sage stuff, and had used up basically almost all the preptests. When it came to the test though, my score ended up being a 167.

Now, i know that your score drops a few points from your average, but my average for my last 10 tests was at least a 176.

I don't know where I went wrong on the test because it was a sabbath observer test and can't see my mistakes.

If I had to guess i'd say I got a pretty good score on LR (I finished both of those sections with a couple of minutes remaining), missed a couple of points on games (the last problem was seriously hard), and I know that RC felt super super difficult and I barely understood a word of some of the passages, so I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that that was the section that got me.

My question is this:

I want to retake to actually hit my potential (or at least get close to it) - how should i study for it again?

To be honest, It's hard to locate specific weaknesses I have, because on practice tests I've gotten even 180s before. I just want to get to the point where even on test day, that 180 practice can turn into a 180 (or even 173) on the test.

It's not that I have anxiety when i take the real test, or anything like that - which makes it harder to solve the problem**. I just want to be able to get to the point where absolutely no matter what is thrown at me, I can make sure to hit very close to my average score.**

That all being said - how should i study? Should I get a tutor? Would a tutor be able to help me (seeing that I already know the concepts really well). I need more of a study technique and study plan thatll get me to the point to translate my practice scores into real scores.

ANY and ALL help is really really appreciated.

[also, side note: I was satisfied with my score and even applied to a bunch of law schools this past october, but over time i realized i'd come to regret not reaching my potential (after all, it could save a bunch of money down the line), and i wanted to work anyway].

Hi,

I took my first practice test last week and received roughly a 162-3. This was my first experience with the lsat in any form. I was very pressed for time on the lg section, but I finished the others with about 13 minutes left. I missed about the same number of questions on each section. I’ve already improved signifcantly on the lg section as a result of the 7sage curriculum, but my other scores haven’t made the same jump. I have time to review those sections but it hasn’t seemed to help. Will it be possible for me to get up to a 173 by this summer?

Hey Everyone. So I've particularly been having trouble increasing my score for LR. I'm getting -10 to -13 and I feel really hopeless. Can someone perhaps give me some tips on how they are approaching studying for LR for better results

I know last minute you won’t make huge gains, but what are people’s study strategies before February test date??

I’ve been doing PTs every other day, and the other days section work. I know which question types I typically get wrong - should I instead be drilling those? I’ve been consistently scoring between 156-159 but today’s PT I got a 150...I’m afraid I’m backtracking. Any ideas or anyone else feeling like this??

Hello :)

I've been studying full time since Aug 2017. Studied about 7-8 hours, 6 days a week. I think I rested like 5 days in total. lol

Anyways, I started with 144 and the 3 recent tests I've taken in the past few weeks are:

PT 76(159): LR : -6, -8 LG: -8 RC -7

PT 72 (161): LR : -3, -8 LG: -6 RC: -9

PT 69 (158): LR : -4, -8 LG -8 RC: -10

So basically I don't have any strong section and I need improvement in EVERYTHING...! I guess my "best" section is LR, only by a little. This is frustrating because I worked on LG the hardest. I worked on daily about 3 hrs just doing LG since Nov. I've been foolproofing 20-35 and I've foolproofed some later ones as well. But when I take timed sections, I am still able to attempt about 3 games. Surprisingly... When I BR, I can get mid to high 170s. The highest BR score was 178.

So it seems like I know the concepts necessary to take the exam, but I just can't do the questions on time.

My goal is to get 165+ but this seems very far-fetched at the moment.

I guess I'm slowly getting unmotivated & exhausted because I'm studying full-time yet seeing very slow progress. I've been stuck in mid to high 150s since October..!!

I'm registered for the Feb test, but because some parts of me already thinks that I won't get a good score in the Feb test, I feel extremely unmotivated to prep for it in the next 2 weeks. Because I probably can't really improve a lot from the scores I've been getting... So I'm planning to take June and Sept test... In my head, I know that I will improve if I continue to study. But as of now, I'm tired and lost as to what/how to study. After the Feb test, I think I need to re-plan my studying but I don't know where to begin... because I don't have any strong sections.

thanks for reading my rant... ^^;;

Does anyone has a tracker or spreadsheet that they use for LR and/or RC? I know that using a tracker/spreadsheet for LG is common but I was just wondering if anyone has something to track LR/RC progress before I try to make one from scratch and then realize there is one out there floating around which just so happens to be superior to the one I have created.

I am having a technical issue. I was trying to ask a question under my test pretest 36 dec 2001. But for some reason when I type it goes to the answer choices I selected, not allowing me to actually write a note. For instance, I tried to write "technical" however, when I got to select "e" it would go to the answer choices above and did not allow me to write any full words at all.

Can someone please tell me if I am doing something wrong or is this just a glitch?

Anyone else having trouble printing this PT? Never had an issue before.

I'm so glad that I understand 7sage curriculum. I'm starting to understand the concepts of LR and RC! I think I will reach my potential score for the Feb test!

Thank you 7Sagers !

So a few of us moms and dads got together the other day to hang while our kids played. We were talking LSAT and apparently one of my mom friends is really good at logic. They were all interested in an LSAT question since I keep saying how hard the test is so I complied and chose a 4 star SA question. Would you believe my friend answered that question in about 20 seconds and got it right!! Talk about feeling shitty and stupid at the same time! I couldn't even diagram it. My friend is also a scientist and has a PhD so she's just smart all around. Ah well - I told her she needs to take the test for me, lol. Love her and wish I had her brains. Do you have a friend like that? Ok, back to work.

Hi everyone,

A little background: I first started studying in September 2017 in order to take the exam in December of that year. I had a pretty good understanding of the logic games and they seem to be the only section that I have been consistently improving in. I decided to withdraw from the exam, however, for two reasons. First, I got caught up with school work and exams, and second, I was missing so many questions in LR and did not know how to come up with a proper technique for RC (I am a very slow reader and it takes me a couple times to go over a paragraph to be able to fully understand it, and it doesn't help that tend to get distracted easily).

I then decided to sign up for the February 2018 exam. I took my very first diagnostic in late December after I finished my finals, where I got a 143. Since then, I started studying for 12-15 hours a day from my PowerScore bibles and watching 7Sage videos. I was devoting most of my time to LR as it is my absolute worst section. I did a bunch of drills from PT 7 to 35 and was getting about 70% of them right.

A few days ago, however, I took a timed PT to see if I was making any improvements under testing conditions. I ended up getting a 142. I don't understand how I spent so much time studying only to end up with a score that was just as bad as my diagnostic. Anyway, I panicked and decided to withdraw from the February exam as it was only 2 weeks away at that point and I still was not doing well. Not even close.

So, right now I have no idea how to approach the LR and RC sections. How do I improve? I feel like no matter how many drills I do, there's no progress. Help!

I have this big worry that I peaked and I am not getting better but worse. Looking at my analytics shows this and I don't know how to get out of this slump before Feb 10! Any tips?

.

I am curious if anyone knows whether there is a way to request a switch of the PTs released with each upgrade? If I'm planning on eventually upgrading to Ultimate + after first upgrading to Ultimate, it would be much more beneficial to have the earlier PTs (released only in Ultimate +) first since I just finished the CC and would like to start fool proofing logic games 1-35.. The PTs gained from upgrading to Ultimate are pretty much useless until much later in preparation (after FPing and earlier PTs).

Is there someone we can email to request a "swap" of Ultimate and Ultimate +'s PTs?

Hello- I would really appreciate some advice!

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I'd really, really appreciate any help! Thanks!

Hello- I would really appreciate some advice!

Some background info:-

My questions:-

I'd really, really appreciate any help! Thanks!

In full disclosure, I took PowerScore's course 3 years ago, though I didn't pay attention or complete assignments as I wasn't yet sold on law school. Two weeks ago I took PT 62 as a diagnostic (I had already taken June 2007), and scored a 163 (-5 rc, -4 lr, -8 lg, -9 lr).

Today, after going through 7Sage for one week (only up through their basic logic core curriculum, so no games or rc or advanced lr), I decided to blind review my PT 62. Admittedly, I only went back and wrote down all questions I got wrong (not the answer I selected originally). Then I took that piece of paper with the section and numbers I had gotten wrong and redid the problems. I ended up with a 174 (-2 rc, -3 lr, -0 lg, -3 lr).

If I continue to study hard (about 20 hours per week, ~20-25 full timed PTs), does it seem feasible that I could take the June LSAT and score a 169+? After this blind review, part of me wants to aim for scoring a 172+ on the LSAT, since I was able to understand the concepts in my quasi-blind review. It seems like I just need to work on solidifying concepts strongly so that I can work at a more diligent pace while doing PTs. Is that crazy out of reach? Thoughts? How do you manage expectations between blind review and timed tests?

My feeling is that I would like to see my timed tests and blind review margin shrink over time (ideally with timed and br growing in score).

Hey guys! If you're taking the LSAT and your account is inconveniently set to expire a few days before the test date, just email me (dillon@7sage.com) and I'll extend your account for free through the February test. (Make sure you include your 7Sage email!)

I can guarantee you that my inbox will fill up with these, so give me time to reply to them all. If your account expires by the time I get to your email, don't worry, I'll reactivate it for you. :)

For those of you who are expiring after, good luck on the LSAT! We here at 7Sage are rooting for you.

In your own opinions, how different is a score of a 155 (first attempt score) versus a 157/158 (current score average) . Does it really make a difference for me to take the exam again? I feel like I am in the range where it could be the difference with just scholarships...any advice?

Can someone tell me the proper way to blind review. I seem to be doing it wrong