Hello,

I bought the starter course, and I'm very likely going to buy the Ultimate package. I am taking the December test and will be studying full time as I don't have school or work.

I have a few questions though:

How does the money back guarantee work? Is there anything that would invalidate this?

From people who might have the ultimate package are you finding the test explanations for the more recent tests PT 60 and beyond helpful?

Does the price of extending access go up if I have a better package? (currently it is $25 for one month and $75 for 6 months with the starter package)

Any other comments/advice is welcome!

Thanks for all the help guys, love the course so far.

Best regards,

Patrick

Hey everyone,

YouTube recommended me this video about test anxiety (in general), and I thought it would be helpful for some of you as well!

Im freaking out a little... so, I miss way more questions when I do a timed test vs untimed test.

I'll usually miss like 3- 5 questions on a lr section untimed but when I time myself, I will miss like 9 questions on a lr section.

I'll miss about 4-5 questions on rc (my most difficult section), but when timed, i miss like 12 questions or more.

Definitely not good.

Also, on timed tests, i miss more on my second lr section than first...and usually i will start missing a bunch of questions toeards the end of the section. Is this test fatigue?

Has anybody struggled with missing more questions on timed tests and dealing with test fatigue? If so, any tips and advice that might help?

Please and thank you!

Hi all -

I'm aiming to take the test in December and/or February, with June as a backup.

Thus far, I've finished the CC, taken PT36, Foolproofed games from PTs 1-15, and worked on some LR and RC drills.

From here on out, I'd like to take a PT each Saturday. I'm wondering --

(1) Is it possible/advisable to continue Foolproofing games (PTs 16-35) while also running this type of PT cycle, or should I dedicate myself to finishing the Foolproofing before doing more PTs? (With the latter approach -- I'm worried that I'm not getting enough exposure to full-length PTs).

(2) For those planning on Dec or Feb -- do you all have any recommended PT schedules? If I do a PT per week, I can expect to finish about 9-10 PTs by the time Dec rolls around, and then I plan on doing 2 PTs per week between the Dec & Feb exams in order to get an additional 20 PTs by Feb. (This would also leave me with about 15 fresh PTs until June, in case I need to retake).

(3) Is there a recommended order in which to take the PTs (i.e. might it be best to mix up older and recent tests since time is limited until Dec/Feb)?

Many thanks!

Hey everyone,

So I was hoping you guys could give me some feedback on my recent LSAT studies. I am planning to eventually take the LSAT as I want to earn a JD/MBA. I was studying for the LSAT from January 2016- August 2016 and soon stopped because it got to be too much with my classes; I am a senior majoring earning a degree in business administration. I had quit also because of frustration. I was hitting 154-160 on timed practice tests in August 2016 after studying all Spring and summer; I felt that logical reasoning became my most consistent section as I progressed from getting only 5 per section wrong untimed to timed. My performance on logic games and reading comp was very fickle, though oddly on a good day my highest section scores have been in those sections. Anyways I digress. I took an untimed practice test recently after several months of not studying and got a 165 untimed. This is the highest I've ever gotten untimed and I would honestly be satisfied with anything above a 162 on test day. At this point should I start going back to timed practice? Even though I haven't studied for several months I feel like taking a break has really given me a fresh perspective, but I'm just scared to go straight back into timed practice. Also I don't feel like it make sense to try and postpone practice until you get a 175+...maybe 170. How can I get a 162+

Hi, I am trying to acquire PT77 to PT81. Are there any PDFS or digital versions available that I will get to print multiple times?

So I was just about done with the CC with 4 Logic games to go, when all of a sudden I cant seem to concentrate anymore, whether I am trying to just watch a video on how to do an LG or do it on my own. I don't really understand why I am tired when I usually work through the CC an average of 6 days a week, leaving Sundays as a rest day because I'm busy on that day anyway. Any thoughts or advice? The December Test is almost here so I feel like I do not have time to burn out now.

You will start your week off right. You will get through the LSAT. You will get your score. You will apply and get into law school. You will be a lawyer and do awesome lawyer things!

For any 7sagers out there feeling stressed/ frustrated/ fatigued/ etc, you're not alone; and you are more than your current circumstance. Keep grinding!!

Cheers,

Chris

I’ve always wondered how people approach the LR section. Do you read the question stem first or stimulus? After that, how do you approach the question - finding conclusion and the support?

Also, what is the best way to review LR? And what are some important fundamentals when it comes to the LR section of the test? Thanks :)!

Have any of you guys ever sent electronic transcripts to LSAC? The clearinghouse states that my undergraduate transcript has been sent, but I have no confirmation of reception with LSAC. If you guys have done it electronically, how long does it normally take to get confirmation?

7sage Community,

I'd like to take a moment to share my facebook page with this community that has been so close to me over the last 12+ months.

https://www.facebook.com/johnny.falcon.3

Please visit if possible, and show support!

I've had the incredible opportunity of meeting of meeting a few folks from the 7sage community. I turn to the discussion boards to keep me sane when I need that break from studying. This time, it's to ask for support. After last night's events in my hometown, I want to help in any way I can. For personal reasons, I am compelled to do what I can to give back to the city that has raised me.

Please note that I have partnered with @"Dillon A. Wright" before posting.

Hi All,

So I've started writing practice exams from 9am-1pm on Saturdays to prepare myself for my exam on Dec 2. Heres my problem: whenever I write my exam around 12:00 my stomach starts growling really loudly, I start getting hungry. I'm just wondering if anyone is on the same boat as me? I don't really like eating a big breakfast at 7:30 am so idk what to do.. LOL

I know Sufficient Assumptions! Lol...

Learning is fun, exciting, challenging, and intriguing all at the same time, and so much more!

The LSAT makes me hate myself. That is all.

Hey everyone! Loving 7sage so far! My Starter access expires on Oct. 15. I bought the Starter because I wanted to try out the course before I committed to Ultimate+. I have (of course!) decided that I love 7sage and would love to get the Ultimate+ course. I have a couple of questions though:

Is it better (read cheaper!) to upgrade and add-on more months after or should I just let this one expire and buy Ultimate+ outright with 18 months of access? I definitely want to get a great score and would like to put in at least a year of dedicated prep, so I would need more than the 3 months of additional access that you get when you upgrade.

If I buy Ultimate+ outright or upgrade to it, will the history of work I did in Starter still be preserved?

Looking forward to learning from and giving back to this amazing community!

Thanks!

-Eeshan

[Admin note: Ultimate+ includes 12 months now]

The video doesn't open..any suggestions thanks

I received a 150 on my first practice test. With 8 months until the June test, is it possible to bring this to at least a 165? I feel very discouraged about this starting point.....

Should I start 7sage during this super busy semester (research fellowship, 17 credits, 2 jobs) or begin in January when my load is a bit lighter?

I have a 3.9 GPA and would hate for a crappy LSAT to ruin my opportunities. Thanks for the help, as always!

So, I was drilling some LR questions by type (MSS, SA, MBT) and there were a few answers that I was just under confidant on. I was then was wondering well what do I do what this information? I also noticed that a few answers I blind reviewed and changed answers were wrong and the original answer I picked was correct. How can I use this information to improve? In other words, what is the purpose/benefit of identifying over/under confidence?

Hey Guys,

I'm looking at tier two schools to apply to.

My question is... can i choose which score to send. In other words. So if i took the June 2017 and September 2016 LSAT, and I scored better on september 2016, can i choose this September to send? Or I have to use the most recent score?

Hey guys,

So I work full time and I've just upgraded to the Ultimate + Package woohoo! Now, I made my study schedule so that it would end on February 7th a couple days before the LSAT. The way the schedule is set up I study 40.5 hours of material each week. I even find myself studying during lunch. I wish there was a way to alter it so it would cater to my full time work schedule. But anyway, how do you guys manage?

JY always emphasizes the skipping strategy when taking timed PTs, but I think this can help with Core Curriculum as well.

When you don't understand something at first, sometimes its best to just skip it and come back to it later. I've done this many times with the core curriculum on questions that I didn't understand on my "first round" through. On the "second round", I come back with a clearer mind and different perspective, helping me better understand questions I didn't understand the first time though.

Just some advice that I hope helps someone in their LSAT studies!

I reposted this comment of mine from @blah170blah 's great thread to those who are disappointed. I thought my story would help some of you realize you're not alone:

- Very first PT 149

- Studied my but off and eventually PTed in the 170s

- Planned for a 170 plus!

But...

- Oct 14 LSAT 162 (85th Pctl)

- Dec 14 LSAT 165 (91st Pctl)

- June 15 LSAT 173 (99th Pctl)!

There are two kinds of people in this world - those that fall and those that get back up. I know there are people on this board who are disappointed right now. I know you'll get back up.

Don't get me wrong, you can have time to be down. I hit the nachos and in-n-out pretty hard the first couple days after getting my first test score. But then I hit the weights and then I hit the books and 7Sage material. I know you all have it in you too.

Quick question for everyone regarding LR timing.

Here's a scenario:

(A) skip the question and come back to it later on. Or...

(B) quickly make an educated guess and move on?

My concern is that I don't want to engage in the "sunk costs" fallacy and finish out then, simply because I've invested so much time in it already. Yet I also don't want to skip a difficult stimulus, only to come back to it later on and have trouble remembering all of the key components of the question again, rather than just answering when they are fresh in my mind.

Any thoughts/tips? How long do you wait before pulling the trigger to answer or to skip? I'm especially interested in people who have tried out both strategies above and prefer one over the other. Or, perhaps rather than "A" and "B" above, there is a strategy "C" that I'm unaware of. In fact, give me ANY advice you all have when it comes to finishing an LR because I sure as hell can't seem to do it.

Thanks in advance, everyone.

P.S. Yes, I have seen the 7Sage webinar "Skip It". Alas, I'm still unsure what do in this particular kind of situation.

'Ello all,

What are your best tips to get back into studying after the exam? Do you continue with some PTs and BR as usual?

I've watched the webinar about studying after CC. I've found that I should do some days of LG Drills & Foolproofing and then at least 1 PT with BR.

I am finding it very hard to jump back into it as the sweet taste of freedom is on my lips

Hi everyone,

So I’m about to start PTing now and I have a question when it comes to reviewing your exam, either via BR or without.

I know what BR is but what exactly is it about BR that makes it work?

And I’ve been wondering: what if someone checked the answers right away after a PT and tried to figure out why they got a question wrong without consulting other resources. Does it offer the same benefit as BR and why? Thank you :)!