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Last comment monday, may 01 2017

starting over?

Hey guys!

I recently pushed back my intended LSAT date to September (I was registered for the June test) after talking to a pre-law advisor. I purchased the basic package here at 7sage when I originally started studying (early March) and the LSAT Trainer. I plan on upgrading my course to the premium package so I can get some more practice and problems. Would you guys suggest starting from scratch with about 4 months until the September test, or continuing on from where I'm at?

BACKSTORY: I'm back to studying after taking all of April off to weigh my options. I'm newly post-grad with an MA and the idea of 3 more years of school killed me softly. But after taking a few weeks and thinking it over, I'd regret not at least TAKING the lsat seeing as how I've already paid for it...I was forcing myself to study for 6 hours a day with few breaks and nothing was sinking in. I glazed over the diagramming sections, telling myself when the test came, "You won't have time to do any of that anyway. Memorize necessary and sufficient terms? Nope. Not useful. Learn to diagram? Waste of time." I took my first proctored practice test and BOMBED IT. And so here I am....

And so, I'm back. Not surprisingly, I'm doing problem sets and getting an embarrassing majority incorrect (especially with the LG).

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

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I was accepted At northeastern on a full ride and was selected for the public interest fellowship. I was waitlisted at Georgetown(preferred waitlist), Duke, Northwesten and UPENN. I am having hard time deciding is it worth fighting to get into a t-16 with More name recognition but eventually getting deep in debt because I likely wouldn't be receiving scholarship I assume even if I got in since I've been waitlisted. I am a URM from very humble background. Graduating from law school debt free would mean a lot to me.

Figting to get into higher ranked school + plus accumulate debt verses lower ranked school and fill ride.

I want to go into public interest law and northeastern fits that model perfectly.

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Last comment sunday, apr 30 2017

After the Core Curriculum

Hi all! I'm just getting started on the Core Curriculum. In order to plan ahead, I'd like to figure out what comes immediately after the completion of the Core Curriculum. Do you head into the PTs right away -- or do you spend time doing more practice on problem sets from PTs 1-35 (esp. the Foolproof Method for logic games), in addition to the drills that are already part of the Core Curriculum? If it's the latter, how many weeks should one generally plan on spending on extra problem sets before doing PT 36 & beyond?

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Last comment saturday, apr 29 2017

Order of Operations for Study

Hello everyone,

I was hoping for some advice on how to study for the September LSAT. I took the June 2007 Diagnostic and scored a 158. I was at 80-85% on both the LR and RC but was at 65% for the LG section. My goal is to score in the high 160's or low 170's.

Onto my more precise question which is how I should split up my attention between materials.

My study materials

All three Powerscore Bibles

The LSAT Trainer

Manhattan LR Book

7Sage Premium + Access

My question is, what order should I work through these? Any other more general advice would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks!

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Last comment friday, apr 28 2017

Am I doing BR right?

Hey everyone,

For the Question Sets in the CC, what is your method for blind reviewing them? What I do is go through each of the questions timed (jotting down how long it took me for each one), circle the ones I'm not positive on, and then go back to review the ones I circled without any time constrains. I feel as if that's pretty standard.

However, I was wondering what everyone does after going over the answers. Do you make a notation of your before and after BR performance on the Question Set sheets? For the ones that you got wrong, do you write out the reasons for each answer choice on the Question Set sheet? Basically what I'm looking for is a method for documentation so I know how reference it as well as a way to "shatter my reasoning" for wrong answers.

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To all my fellow LSATers, I urge you to keep studying hard. Remember that while this test is important, it does not define you as a person. To all my fellow undergrads, kill it on your finals and study hard this summer. I look forward to utilizing you all for legal advice in the future, because 7sage LSATers will undoubtedly make the best lawyers!

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Last comment thursday, apr 27 2017

PTing and Blind review

Hi guys, so I need some clarity on PTing and Blind reviewing. So far I have taken only 3 PT and have gone thru the CC twice + the LSAT trainer. So far the scores have been 148, 150, 154 (slowly making my way up sadly LOL) (my diagnostic before I started studying was about 136). Blind review scores are in the 160s. I think the timing aspect really threw me off first time on the PT and I have been trying to get a handle of it. Per section, I am guessing a solid 6 questions at least for LR, and about a whole passage for RC usually because i'm out of time. LG is good - I can do all the games on time, usually -2 on games. I am taking a PT once a week.

However, I really want to be PTing in at least low 160s (which is my blind review score right now). So I am really confused as to how I should get my blind review up at this point.

I try to drill and practice as much as I can from old PTs before I take the next PT and watch all the explanations for the PT I took. I also review concepts in the CC. I have also been writing out explanations for questions that have me confused between 2 answer choices.

Is there anything else I should be doing?? Thank you for the help!!!

Side note; love how helpful 7sage community is as this exam can be really frustrating.

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Hey everyone,

I'm done with the LSAT and moving to a new place at the end of the week. I have a bunch of unused or very lightly used (some penciled notes, or maybe a couple of sections done) LSAT prep materials that I'd prefer to pass on to another 7Sager who can use them, rather than just throw away.

If you live in the Washington DC area and are interested, and able to pick these up by the end of the week, let me know.

Materials included:

  • LSAT Trainer
  • Clean copies of LSAT 68, 69, 70, 73, 79
  • Binder full of logic games for fool-proofing
  • some other assorted prep tests where I've only done one section
  • Also, my understanding that it would be completely ethical to just give these away (I am NOT selling them). But if that's not the case, I'd appreciate if someone would flag this for me.

    Thanks!

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    My PT scores took a hit when I initially moved onto recent PTs (60s and up) from the older PTs.

    I wondered why. Below is my theory and I was wondering if anyone can corroborate.

    (This is limited to LR and RC)

    My theory is that the LSAT is testing more on "meaning" of the text as opposed to "literal" understanding. What I mean by "meaning" is something like the range of valid inferences that can be made from the information, whether that is either from a sentence alone, or in combination with other parts of the stimulus/ passage. In the previous LSATs, they did test the meaning, but the correct answer choices also closely matched what's stated in the text quite literally. The wrong answer choices were more obviously wrong, in that they did not match the "text" in very obvious ways. So what I'm saying is that in the older LSATs, you could afford to NOT understand the meaning and still get the question right most of the times. In the more recent ones, you really have to understand the meaning, or else you are in for trouble.

    In the more recent LSATs, they really test whether you've understood the meaning of the text. The "meaning" must be matched, as opposed to literally matching the text.

    Attractor answers: They are very similar in wording from the text. It is sometimes just one word, one preposition, or something that's so subtle as to almost imperceptible that makes the answer choice wrong. "They sound right," which means that they contain familiar language.

    Correct answers: matches in meaning, but not necessarily the language. It's easy to dismiss as wrong because it contains unfamiliar and "not sounding right" language.

    So the litmus test for a correct answer is : Does it match the meaning?

    There is nothing new about this. But I find myself needing to be especially more careful in the more recent PTs.

    I used to have a very precise pre-phrase and looked for certain wordings. They works alright in PTS before 60s. They began to backfire on me on PTs after 60s.

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    I just wanted to ask you fellow Sagers about this... plus I'd love to hear how you use BR! I just cannot find the positive usage of if for me and my study habits.

    When setting up to take PT I always play the recording of what the instructor will say on the test day, as well as fill in all appropriate bubbling, in addition to the handwritten affidavit. I use the 7sage app for background noise/the instructor saying when it's 5(?I'm not sure) left and then when to put your pencils down. I don't use the timer but always use a special LSAT Wristwatch, to get used to reading a clock manually and linking it to the number of questions left. I try to match the "testing" environment as much as I can to the actual test day to minimize any test taking anxiety (or just my general anxiety) when the real day comes. ALSO!!!!signed up for a digist lsat for a free in Chicago. You guys should look into this if you have not already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Okay that was long winded sorry, lol. My main problem with BR is that it places this mentality in my head, however hard I try not to let it linger or acknowledge it, that it's OK as in not stressed or even to get it wrong (silly, I know), because even if I get the first choice wrong, it's almost always my second answers (I have finally broke into the 170s threshold and am getting pretty confident with answer selections.) I have always had issues with second guessing myself, where I could see how BR would be useful, but learning this way doesn't seem to solidify in my head that I was actually WRONG. With this mentality, it doesn't uhm, I guess I don't feel the 100% INCORRECT feeling you get when going over a question, confidentiality answering the question without BR, only to find out at the end of the test when you review all the answers it's WRONG. I see the similarity between this approach and BR, you still go back to review to see your question is wrong, but usually, you have the right one for the 2nd question. It's like a small boost to your ego like "well, I just second guessed myself, I'll catch it next time" or "well, I'll improve by test day." But sometimes, it's not that. It's that you just don't know this question stem to a near pefection, and with BR, I don't internalize that knowledge.

    Maybe it's just how I've adjusted my brain to studying for this LSAT, but I don't find much use for BR, or maybe not at least this late in this study game.I'm so used to the SHAME associated with taking tests and missing answers in grade school, even college really. You take the test, acknowledge your score, and shamefully stuff away the test to avoid looking or attempting to comprehend the answers you missed... But with the LSAT it's constantly encouraging you to say HEY LOOK HERE, ANOTHER QUESTIONS WRONG! :) And then drill, drill, drill, drill until it comes naturally. I kinda of love the LSAT because of this honestly, even if I've painstaking spent a year of my life studying for this damned thing. Unique little bastard.

    Ok to reiterate, Is this bad not liking or using BR? I see so many people loving BR and I feel silly for never having given it a real try, maybe a test or two. I'm honestly shooting for 175-180, and I've hit 175 once YAY! In the 169-170s since Feb. But my GPA is a 2.5 so I have to have an outstanding LSAT score to have any chance at a top school.

    Sorry for the long winded post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I appreciate your comments :)

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    Hey guys, wanted some insight into an issue I'm having with PT'ing. Long story short, I underperform on the first section because it takes at least 15 questions for my brain to warm up.

    This doesn't even necessarily translate to getting those first 15 wrong - it simply takes me longer to understand and answer them correctly. Which then DOES lead to mistakes towards the end of the section, because I have less time to answer the harder ones.

    This is especially an issue with LR. Normally I try to do the first 10 questions in 10 minutes or under, in fact usually 15 in 15 and (on a good day) 20 in 20. This is always do-able for me when it's the second section of LR. My brain is fired up and ready to go. But if it's the first section of the exam I'm just slow to adjust, don't hit those targets, and as aforementioned, it throws everything off balance.

    I don't know how to get my brain to naturally be in that warmed-up stage from the get-go; in fact it seems almost natural that it would take your brain a second to adjust from "I'm just living my life" to "I'm doing hardcore logic for 4 hours"

    I know meditation helps as a general thing with concentration (and I'm currently working on it), but I was wondering if anyone else experienced this and had advice for that FIRST section specifically. Take a timed 35 minute section every morning, perhaps? Some people even say they did a full section as warmup before sitting for the exam. Would love to know your thoughts.

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    What do you think are the pros + cons of attending the same law school as one’s undergrad? I’m really debating whether or not I even want to apply to my undergrad for law school (considering the application fees + effort and all). I’ve accumulated a list and I would really like others’ input as well!

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    Update Feb 2017: printable e-docs for the LSAT questions are now included in 7Sage materials.

    There is also a list here:

    http://classic.7sage.com/preptests/

    Q: Why do I need to buy PTs? Why don't you have them?

    A: As of April 21st, 2015, all PDFs containing LSAC licensed content have been removed to comply with LSAC's new policy. To be clear, all PDFs containing any LSAT questions - LSAT PrepTests and Problem Sets - have been removed. Any PDFs without LSAT questions are still available.

    The removal of PDFs from 7Sage was not our decision, it was the LSAC's decision to ban PDFs. 7Sage is not the only LSAT course to be hit with this. Other LSAT courses also had to remove their PDFs.

    To compensate, we have all of the questions listed as silent videos, which are short one-minute videos that show only the question and answer choices. It is much better to study with paper PTs, so pick those up if you can.

    Q: What PrepTests do I need?

    A: Depends on what course you have!

    If you have Starter, you will need PTS 36-44.

    If you have Premium, you will need PTs 36-58.

    If you have Ultimate, you will need PTs 36-72.

    If you have Ultimate+, you will need PTs 36-77. Future PTs will also be added to the course.

    (Ultimate+ also has access to the question bank, which has some questions from PTs 1-16 and all from 17-35)

    Q: I can't find the PTs included in my course! Can you swap explanations for me?

    A: Sorry, we do not swap PT explanations. Please make sure you can find the PTs before you purchase the course, or upgrade to a higher package that includes more explanations.

    All courses use some of the questions from PTs 1-35, so it would be a good idea to pick up those as well.

    If you've purchased individual PT explanations that are not included in those packages, you will have to get those as well.

    From Amazon.com (USA/Canada)

    (SuperPrep 1) A, B, C:

    http://www.amazon.com/Official-LSAT-SuperPrep-Champion-Prep/dp/0979305063/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1461037774&sr=1-6&keywords=LSAT

    (SuperPrep II) 62, 63, C2:

    http://www.amazon.com/Official-LSAT-SuperPrep-II-Champion/dp/0990718689/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1460892256&sr=8-1&keywords=superprep+lsat+2

    Games for PTs1-20:

    https://smile.amazon.com/PowerScores-LSAT-Logic-Games-Preparation/dp/0982661827/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1467749480&sr=1-1&keywords=powerscore+lsat+game+type+training

    Games for PTs 21-40:

    https://smile.amazon.com/PowerScores-LSAT-Logic-Games-Preparation/dp/0982661800/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1467749480&sr=1-2&keywords=powerscore+lsat+game+type+training

    Also, if you're looking for PTs 41-50 and don't want to spend hundreds of dollars, try this:

    https://smile.amazon.com/Manhattan-LSAT-Practice-Book-I/dp/1935707787/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1467749731&sr=1-1-fkmr1&keywords=manhattan+LSAT+practice+book+1

    The book I ordered was used, but came in good condition with minimal markups/notes.

    (Thanks, @alex.kirby, for this link!)

    1-6, 8, 17, 39 & 40 (EXPENSIVE):

    http://www.amazon.com/Actual-Official-Out---Print-PrepTests/dp/1456387049/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1434326750&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=out+of+print+lsat

    4-18 (Might actually be 4-14 - book says 1992-1995, but is not specific as to what PT #s)

    http://www.amazon.com/Actual-Official-Preptests-ACTUAL-PREPT/dp/B00824WL6C/ref=sr_1_51?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1461038183&sr=1-51&refinements=p_27%3ALaw+School+Admission+Council

    7-16, 18:

    http://www.amazon.com/Actual-Official-LSAT-PrepTests-Lsat/dp/0942639634/ref=sr_1_19?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1430796578&sr=1-19

    19-28:

    http://www.amazon.com/More-Actual-Official-LSAT-PrepTests/dp/0979305039/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1430796472&sr=1-6

    29-38:

    http://www.amazon.com/Next-Actual-Official-LSAT-PrepTests/dp/0979305055/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1429744359&sr=1-4

    37:

    http://www.amazon.com/Official-LSAT-PrepTest-37/dp/0942639812/ref=sr_1_45?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1461038125&sr=1-45&refinements=p_27%3ALaw+School+Admission+Council

    36-44 (price fluctuates, try to find a used copy):

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/1937707369/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_Vo8FxbPCYZQ66

    42-51 ($30!!)

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0986086290/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    43-45:

    https://www.amazon.com/PowerScore-LSAT-Deconstructed-Three-LSATs/dp/0980178274?ie=UTF8&keywords=lsat%20deconstructed&qid=1364051525&ref_=sr_1_2&sr=8-2

    (Thanks, @VALKIRIA, for this link!)

    41-50 (separated by question type, easy to remove and re-arrange):

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1937707784/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1937707784&linkCode=as2&tag=mintowin-20&linkId=e0408798e4a104bf57f50e608724a3fb

    51:

    https://www.amazon.com/Official-LSAT-PrepTest-51/dp/0976024586/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468360225&sr=8-1&keywords=PrepTest+51+LSAT

    52-61:

    http://www.amazon.com/Actual-Official-PrepTests-Comparative-Reading/dp/0984636005/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1429743671&sr=8-2&keywords=Prep+test

    62-71:

    http://www.amazon.com/10-Actual-Official-LSAT-PrepTests/dp/0986045519/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429743671&sr=8-1&keywords=Prep+test

    73:

    http://www.amazon.com/Official-LSAT-PrepTest-73-Sept/dp/0986045535/ref=sr_1_10?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1461037879&sr=1-10

    74:

    http://www.amazon.com/Official-LSAT-PrepTest-74-Dec/dp/0986045543/ref=sr_1_11?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1461037879&sr=1-11

    75:

    http://www.amazon.com/Official-LSAT-PrepTest-75-June/dp/0990718697/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1461037879&sr=1-7

    76:

    http://www.amazon.com/Official-LSAT-PrepTest-76-Oct/dp/0986086215/ref=sr_1_8?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1461037879&sr=1-8

    77:

    http://www.amazon.com/Official-LSAT-PrepTest-77-Dec/dp/0986086231/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1461037854&sr=8-11&keywords=LSAT

    78:

    https://www.amazon.com/Official-LSAT-PrepTest-78-June/dp/0986086258/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469656128&sr=8-1&keywords=june+2016+lsat

    From Amazon.ca (Canada)

    7-18:

    http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/0979305047?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

    19-28:

    http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/0979305039?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

    29-38:

    http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/0979305055?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02

    I cannot find 39-51 for a low price on Amazon, sorry!

    52-61:

    http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/0984636005?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02

    62-71:

    http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/0986045519?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02

    72:

    http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/0986045527?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00

    73:

    http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/0986045535?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00

    74:

    http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/0986045543?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01

    75:

    https://www.amazon.ca/Official-LSAT-PrepTest-75-June/dp/0990718697/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469665463&sr=8-1&keywords=lsat+75

    76:

    https://www.amazon.ca/Official-LSAT-PrepTest-76-Oct/dp/0986086215/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469665453&sr=8-1&keywords=lsat+76

    77:

    https://www.amazon.ca/Official-LSAT-PrepTest-77-Dec/dp/0986086231/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1469665386&sr=8-2&keywords=lsat+78

    78:

    https://www.amazon.ca/Official-LSAT-PrepTest-78-June/dp/0986086258/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469665386&sr=8-1&keywords=lsat+78

    From Ebay:

    These change often, so I only included a link to a search

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=10+Actual%2C+Official+LSAT+Preptests+39-51&_from=R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X10+Actual%2C+Official+LSAT+Preptests+.TRS0&_nkw=10+Actual%2C+Official+LSAT+Preptests+&_sacat=0

    Analytical Reasoning Problem Sets ONLY From Amazon:

    1-20

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0615508502/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=opinionnation-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=0615508502

    21-40

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0615508510/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=opinionnation-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=0615508510

    41-60

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0615508529/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=opinionnation-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=0615508529

    No longer selling PTs:

    From EveryLSAT

    Their license has ran out and they are no longer selling PDFs or PTs.

    From Cambridge LSAT

    Their license has ran out and they are no longer selling PDFs.

    Still selling hard copies: https://www.cambridgelsat.com/preptests/4-section/

    If you have any to add, please do!

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    Last comment saturday, apr 22 2017

    Where to take PTs

    I would like to know where 7Sagers usually take PrepTests. I read somewhere that it is better to get used to distractions so I usually take in a public library. But do you think it's ok to do PTs at home?

    I'm asking this because I want to record myself doing PTs, and today I stacked a bunch of large books on a library desk and put iPhone on top of it to record myself (I was definitely the weirdest person in the library), but the battery went out after 1.5 hours of recording....! (Next time I'll bring a portable battery charger....and I also ordered an iPhone clip holder stand so that I don't have to stack books....still going to be the weirdest person in the library though)

    Sorry for a stupid question!

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    so Einstein has this riddle i'll paste it here .. basically he said 98% of people dont get it right.. not sure if thats true or not, but once i saw it i realized .. ITS A LOGIC GAME !!! its not evena full game its the sitting up of a game give it a try and i'll tell you the answer ...

    Einstein's riddle

    The situation

    There are 5 houses in five different colors.

    In each house lives a person with a different nationality.

    These five owners drink a certain type of beverage, smoke a certain brand of cigar and keep a certain pet.

    No owners have the same pet, smoke the same brand of cigar or drink the same beverage.

    The question is: Who owns the fish?

    Hints

    the Brit lives in the red house

    the Swede keeps dogs as pets

    the Dane drinks tea

    the green house is on the left of the white house

    the green house's owner drinks coffee

    the person who smokes Pall Mall rears birds

    the owner of the yellow house smokes Dunhill

    the man living in the center house drinks milk

    the Norwegian lives in the first house

    the man who smokes blends lives next to the one who keeps cats

    the man who keeps horses lives next to the man who smokes Dunhill

    the owner who smokes BlueMaster drinks beer

    the German smokes Prince

    the Norwegian lives next to the blue house

    the man who smokes blend has a neighbor who drinks water

    Einstein wrote this riddle this century. He said that 98% of the world could not solve it.

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    Last comment friday, apr 21 2017

    99.8% with Ultimate+?

    @"Dillon A. Wright" Can you please check my account? Yesterday my unlocked content was at 100% and now it is not. I don't know what changed. I am an Ultimate+.

    Thanks in advance,

    S.S

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    Hi all,

    2 questions.

    I likely will only have 3 full days off before the June LSAT I am planning to take. Is this enough time? (I.e., I will work on Thursday and take the test on Monday) Or should I try and swing for more days?

  • What should I do during those 3 full days off?
  • Any advice appreciated, especially from people that have already taken the test before!

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    hey all,

    just wanted to share a bit of my experience... after completing the core curriculum i was eager to jump into prep-tests. at first i would focus well during my actual prep-test, but when it came time to blind review i was so excited to see my score that i quickly agreed with myself and did not spend enough time with each question. my score plateaued in the low 160's.

    then, while reviewing the material in the curriculum and the webinars (shout out to the LSAT Prep for 170+ webinar) i learned three important things about the blind review:

    focus on your blind review score. your actual score tends to be about 10 points lower than your blind review score. thus, if i could get my blind review close to 180, then i could get my actual score above 170. my entire focus shifted from the prep-test to the blind review. rather than getting discouraged by a low actual score i became excited by a high blind review score.

    blind review on a blank copy of the test. thanks to allison for this suggestion in the LSAT Prep for 170+ webinar. without access to my answers from the timed prep-test i stopped arguing with my ego and was able to really dig into the material. my blind review score became a more accurate representation of my knowledge base.

    review your blind review score thoroughly. this is discussed in the curriculum, but after finishing a prep-test and blind reviewing it i was usually eager to move on to the next test. i would check a couple of the harder questions, watch jy's explanation and be done. this was not educative. i began to dive into accumulated answers to discover the subjects i struggled with the most. 7Sage's analytics are great for this. i returned to the curriculum to review most strongly supported and parallel flaw questions. reviewing the material helped me re-learn it.

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    shifting the focus of my emotional well being from the timed prep-test to the blind review helped me get over my frustration and my plateau. i just broke 170 for the first time and it feels great!

    i still can't believe kaplan doesn't teach the blind review...

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    I sensed a burn out/ slump and took off last Thursday afternoon and the entire weekend. Before taking the time off, I think I was getting emotionally involved with the exam. I was getting anxious just by seeing the questions. I was focusing on getting all the details right and was not in the right mindset to see structures. I think when I get anxious, I tend to want to control everything and understand everything perfectly, which is detrimental to succeeding on the LSAT (and anything in life in general...). Now I am in quite a happy place again. Here's a note to a future self (and also to my current self to ingrain these insights) and to anyone who wants to prevent/ overcome a slump. Please feel free to add any more insights.

  • Mistakes are important, crucial pieces for improvement. My screen name is theory and practice, because I believe that improvement comes from the going back and forth btw theory and practice. You test a theory/ strategy through practice, see how it works, amend the theory, test it again. Improvement comes from the process of these refinements. Mistakes are not setbacks, but they serve as important clues for progress.
  • Life is good with or without a high score on the LSAT. When I took time off last weekend, I made a point to enjoy being outside, hang out with as many friends as possible, and really experience that what makes life worth it and fulfilling is the incredible and intangible connection that I make with other people and serving them when I can. That's why I want to go to law school anyway. I can connect with people, and use my talent to the best of my ability regardless of how I do on the LSAT.
  • Learning is fun. I found the LSAT incredibly fun and intellectually stimulating, and I still do now. When I don't get caught up in my scores, I find studying for the LSAT fun. I get to practice active reading, reading for structure, and actually applying them in real life. I get to think about the weaknesses of the argument and how to make my own argument better in real life. I can't think of the practical utility value for the LG (which is why it is my least favorite section (well, also I am generally bad at it) ), but nevermind, I guess even LG has its practical value; it makes me a disciplined thinker, training me to think step by step. I am a pretty intuitive thinker and not necessarily the most disciplined one. I think it helps me work on my weakness to be a better thinker overall. This is why I like the LSAT so much more than say the SAT or the GRE, because it actually helps me to be a better critical thinker.
  • Anyways, I think the weekend off helped me to really experience all of the 3 above (these are all quite common wisdom, but really believing in them and acting in accordance with them is a different issue). I'm going to keep this in mind going forward.

    Please add any more insights to this if you have them!!

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    Anyone think 10 points can be gained in the next two months of LSAT prep? I am at 159 right now after 2nd PT and hoped to reach close to 169 by June test. I'm missing over half on Games right now & simple mistakes on LR, so I plan on drilling that a lot between now and test day. Thoughts or previous experiences with this are much appreciated!

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