Hey y'all! I wish nothing but the best to those taking the LSAT in September.

I just have a quick question for you guys. So I studied for the LSAT sporadically throughout the second half of my college career.

I quit studying for the test at the end of 2013 as I had to enlist in the military. I haven't studied for it since then. I drilled dozens of RC from time to time but I haven't been able to study consistently. Now that I have time and have become an Ultimate+ member recently, I'm hoping to take the test next year. So I just took the first LR from June 2011 administration UNTIMED and I got a 23/25 and I did not guess any of the questions. I reasoned myself and eliminated every wrong answer choice with conviction. Granted I took it untimed(And I'm going to do this for a while because accuracy and certainty>>>>>>>>>timing right now) but I personally think this is encouraging because the last time I finished PT-ing 3 years ago I was scoring in the range of 158-161 on PT 50s all the way to 69/70. LR June 2011 is still relatively a modern test and so I'm wondering if I'm in good shape to just continue drilling LR sections from modern tests instead of having to go through Manhattan LSAT or perusing LSAT Trainer for LR. Do you think this was just a fluke? I am curious of your thoughts on this! I don't have issues with any particular question types. If the stimulus or the question itself is difficult, I get it wrong. Simple as that. Most of the questions I miss/struggle with have difficulty levels of 4 and 5 on this website. I look forward to reading your comments! But 23/25 untimed LR for a guy who was in the high 150s 3 years ago is actually giving me consolation and strength that with a lot more practice I will be able to write the test next summer/fall.

Your fellow LSATer,

DK

Hey guys! I will be taking the test on Saturday. I know the 35 min sections along with the break, but how long can I expect to be at the testing facility? I am taking it at a smaller location. So hopefully that will make it a little shorter! Right?

I have been doing the CC and have stumbled a bit on the strengthen portion of things. Once I hit the 3 star questions, I was getting about 60 percent correct, which is not at all where I want to be. I realize that much of my problem stems from the inability to find that assumption to bridge the gap between premise and conclusion. Is there anything you guys do that helps in establishing this bridge? I know that you will never necessarily find the bridge perfectly, but I would at least like to get better at it to have a greater chance.

Thank you.

Hi,

So I have decided to withdraw from the Septermber test and take it in December. I am averaging at around 165 need to push it to a 170 plus. Would upgrading to Ultimate+ be useful? Is it worth the extra $200? I know what the added features are, wanted to know from people's experience if it is worth it.

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hello,

so the study schedule shows that for the 1st couple of weeks its all information based. and the last few weeks are mainly for prep drilling and full tests. Considering I am limited on time, is it good enough to follow the syllabus without prepping/solving sections on the side?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-71-section-1-question-20/

In theory, I understand why A, B, D, and E are incorrect answers.

However, C is a challenge for me to accept. Just because there are other products that constitute the full income of a sheep farmer both locally and internationally, it's not like we know how much of their prior business depended on sales in those areas.

For example,

Income:

2% domestically and internationally - muttton

2% domestically and internationally - sheepskins

2% domestically and internationally - "other products"

4% domestic - wool sales

90% internationally - wool sales

I'm no expert in sales, but hypothetically wouldn't an increase in the biggest portion of your income cover and possibly still leave you with profit in the event that the lowest portions of your income decreased? I would love for someone to point out what I'm not seeing.

Thank you for all help!

Hi all! Was just wondering what your advice is regarding filling in the answers on test day.. should I bubble in as I go or wait until the end and risk missing the last question or so? Thanks!

Does anyone here have any experience writing the LSAT in China? I'll be moving there soon for school and I plan on writing at the Beijing testing centre in December.

I have heard that LSAC makes the games section of the Chinese LSAT harder, whereas, LR and RC are often slightly easier questions. Are these largely internet rumours, or is there any truth to them?

Any other advice is also welcome :)

Thanks!

I'm unfortunately taking the LSAT coming up this Saturday, but I feel that I'm not entirely ready or maybe just discouraged. My score has fluctuated from a 155-162 with getting a nearly perfect score on the logic games. The fluctuation is mainly due to my inconsistent LR score. Even if I receive the lowest of that range, I'm nervous it won't be enough to get into the school I'm looking at, which is FIU. My gpa from college was a 3.49 with majors in Neurobiology and Neuropsychology. I've been out of school for two years, but unfortunately I didn't gain any law experience. However, I was a bartender and bar manager for 5 years at the same job that my GM wrote a very strong LOR. I also have another strong LOR from when I was a TA in undergrad. I'm in need of words of encouragement that there is some hope to get into FIU. I don't want to feel hopeless before going into the test this Saturday.

That's my only question to be honest... I've scored 164 on a few occasions before but these new tests dropped me closer to a 160 so I'm most likely postponing to December. Just wondering if I go over past tests, drill LG and BR, it should be a realistic goal to get to 165 average by December, right? Thanks for the feedback. I know i've posted a couple times now recently but I just want to make sure I'm setting realistic goals.

Is there a study group for dec lsat? Should we start one?!

I took Dec 2015 and cancelled it. I wonder if I don't take LSAT this December and the limit would expire, right?

I'm preparing for the Feb LSAT if my PT falls into 170s. I am more likely to apply next circle year.

Hey everyone,

I just started the Core Curriculum and its been good to me! However, I was hoping for some clarification. When doing LR or RC are we actually supposed to take note of the grammar and phrasing stuff mentally (i.e. in my head say okay this is the subject and this is the verb or okay this is referring back to this concept)?

Or is this just drill stuff and that is unnecessary?

Thanks!

Currently in need of some last minute advice right now. I took the June 2016 lsat and scored 163. I was averaging around a 166 during my practice tests before this so I immediately signed up to take this Sept exam.

However the studying for my second exam has been much harder than the first time around and I just can't seem to score better than 163-164, often times scoring below it.

I know the raw score between these scores is only a few points, and honestly I feel with the right logic games/ RC passages I can hit my goal of a 165. So should I still sit for the test on Saturday and hope for the best, or simply cancel now. If I dont feel confident I can always cancel my scores after, but I fear I may think I did well and actually got a lower score than before.

Would me canceling and applying within the next few weeks to my dream law school with my163 (Fordham their range is 161-165) be preferable, or should I at least try for a higher score? I would love to be a little higher in their range, but I fear getting a lower/ the same score would hurt my application.

Hi,

I read slow and I don't think I can finish all of the passages within the time.

If I try to read all of them I rush through reading passages and not fully understand what it's talking about and miss questions.

So I'm thinking whether I should only do 3 passages and try to answer all questions correctly...

In this case, is there any way I know which ones to read? How to decide which one to read? For the one I do not read, I will jsut randomly put answers I guess...

Which is actually more efficient to get more points?

Thank you

Hi, I'm hoping I can get some responses for the following concerns:

Core Curriculum

I've been steadily going through the CC, and it has been a slow process (I'm trying to do as many of the problem sets I can). However, I often feel bad about myself due to the fact that I get questions wrong once past "medium" level sets. For example, on medium difficulty I may get one wrong (for SA, for example). But, when I start getting to the harder difficulty sets, I'm bound to get 1-2 wrong per set. (1) Is this normal? I mean, (2) upon going through the lesson on how to tackle the specific argument type, should we be able to get almost every one of the questions from the problem sets correct? (3) How is/was your experience with this (did you hardly get any questions wrong)?

Applications

The deadline is November 1st, and I want to get started on my applications, but I'm really worried about the personal statement portion. I have very little work experience during UG, and no volunteering (I fucked up, I know). My GPA is very strong if that counts, but I'm not so sure how I can remedy this crappy situation. What would you suggest I focus on instead in my PS (any ideas)? My reference letters are both from profs and should be good, so I'm not too worried about that, thankfully.

Also, the maximum for personal statements and whatnot tends to range from 2000-5000 characters (from what I've seen), but is it advisable to actually write that much? I would assume being sweet and short would be better, but again, I have no knowledge on this.

If anyone can help and respond to some of my questions with beneficial information, I'd really appreciate it!

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Just as the title says...

Is there anything suggests which to use in reading the stimulus?

Thanks

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Hi guys,

I took PT 78 today after having taken this exam on the official test date and got a 166, which was much better than my first score. Would the score I got for this exam count as a fresh take? I didnt review PT 78 after I got my score report. This is one of the few potentially fresh takes that I have left and I would like to know how much weight I can put on this score to be reflective of my skills and test day performance

Hey everyone,

So it's been a while since I posted on here. My last post was pretty positive, I PT'd a 156 which I was excited about. I wrote the June 2016 LSAT and it kicked my a**, I was suffering from an extreme anxiety attack during the test, there was someone tapping their pencil (which is the worst thing ever!!) and I came out thinking I did "okay". I got my score back and I got a 142 which jammed me into a deep dark hole of depression, self defeat and I've had a hard time getting myself out of that hole from a 142 on my record. My PT's were constant before June, I was staying in the mid to high 150s (which isn't my target) but I was hoping I'd do better.

I'm going to re-do the 7sage core program with the LSAT Trainer and the bibles and hopefully re-write in either Dec or Feb (probably Feb) but I have a lot of avoidance / procrastination behavior (I'm ADD). I can ALWAYS find something else to do (working full time), and I find myself literally avoiding drilling this core material into my head. How do you guys keep yourself focused on the end goal, and not prior defeat? I'm extremely frustrated and mildly embarrassed that it has taken me this long with the LSAT, it feels like a big roller coaster for me.

Hoping someone in a similar situation can shed some light.

Thanks,

Chels

What PT's from 1 to __ are used in the ultimate course? Wanted to purchase them.

Hey guys,

So, I'm tripping out since the September LSAT is coming up so quickly, and I don't feel ready. When I say I don't feel ready, I know the most common response from everyone will probably be "postpone then" or "don't write until you feel ready," but the score I need to get into my school of choice would be somewhere in the mid 150s. I've posted before, and I've taken all of the advice that everyone has given me, and it definitely helped. However, yesterday I just had a terrible feeling in the 15 minute break of my PT, and I stupidly decided to correct the first 3 sections of the exam, just to see where I was at (I know, I know, really stupid, shouldn't have done it). As my feelings suggested, I got shit on; I got -11 on LG (I KNOW) and I couldn't believe it, I mean, I typically score between -3 and -1, which is OK for me, since I only need to get a 155 to get into the school I want. I got so mad after that, that I threw out the PT I was doing, and left school (where I was studying) and just went home and did nothing. Now, I just feel like shit all of the time, and I keep thinking to myself "what if this happens on game day?" "should I just write and cancel?" I literally have no confidence left. I kind of just want to write a PT and get in my goal range, just to boost my morale a bit. But I am also preparing to write this December as well. I've been doing timed LG sections, and doing well on them, but I just feel in the gutter, and I don't know what to do at this point. Sitting out this cycle is really not an option either, but do you guys think getting a score in the mid to high 150s range this close to game day is possible, given my circumstances? My average PT score is 155, and I wouldn't be so worried if I was in the 160s consistently, but it is what it is.

Now onto the rewrite, so I haven't really used 7sage all that much to study (stupid, I know, but as you guys can tell, I'm prone to stupid decisions), but I bought this course plan so I could have some LR explanations for some PTs. I did do a bunch of lessons in areas I was weaker in, but I would say I only did around 50% of the CC. I used the Powerscore Bibles for 3 months, until I discovered this site, which I must add is 1000000 times better than Powerscore, I was planning on just doing the CC from September 26 until December 3rd, and I generated a study schedule with it, and it seems pretty comfortable to me. It gives me 42h/week, which is OK, considering I've already done many of the lessons and they would most likely just be refreshers. I've only done 11 PTs (36, 52, 41, 53, 54, 55, 56, 70, 63, 67, 71) so I still have a bunch for a December rewrite, and the study schedule generator gives me like 3 or 4 PTs to do per week, but I feel like I can do 5 per week, so I might do that.

For background, in case anyone was wondering or has some specific knowledge applicable to my situation, I'm applying to University of Alberta Law School, wherein the most recent applicant profile shows what every regular applicant had GPA-wise and what their coinciding LSAT score was. I'm at a 3.93 GPA, so I could possibly get in with a 152, provided the averages stay fairly similar, which has been the case for the last 7-ish years, as per my conversation with the admissions lady at the school. This is just in case anyone was wondering why I would be happy with the score stated above.

Also, I just wanna say I LOVE 7sage, and its discussion forum. You guys are phenomenal people.

It took 2-3 hours to figure out why correct answer is correct...cannot believe it.

I have several questions like this per LR section...am I wasting time?

Does this happen to you? Or am I taking too much time for just one question?...I mean I'm writing down why it's actually correct for reviewing later, so that takes time too...

Do you do this? Or do you just remember or refer to explanations, and if you miss the same question, you just go back and refer to the explanations again?