hi everyone,

practicing the older games sections now, and i was just wondering if you guys thought it was worth the time to continue practicing and perfecting the games that seem a little strange, like this one: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-11-section-1-game-4/

one person mentioned on that one that's it's good for flexible thinking and I was wondering if you guys agreed. I don't mind giving it a shot and watching the videos for them but not sure if i should repeat, do the next day and the next week, etc..

thanks for all the advice folks! happy studying.

Background: Ok so prior to 7sage I self-studied. I made my own schedule using the PowerScore books and the LSAT Trainer. After completing my own "core curriculum" I started PT'ing using the Cambridge bundle (1-40 split by type, and 41-70 in four-section PTs). After taking 5 PTs (41-45), I realized that I needed to sign up for a course because I was getting answers wrong and had no clue why they were wrong. Ultimately, I signed up for a 7sage course. I completed 7sage's core curriculum and started taking PT's a couple weeks ago (starting with PT 36). I took PTs 36-40 by viewing the LR questions on 7sage's website (where JY reviews answers of that respective PT), and did RC and LG using the Cambridge "split by type" books... Although my scores for PT 36-40 were not much higher (went from avg of 150 before 7sage to 154 after using 7sage), I am seeing improvement....

Now, here's where I need you to help me out: I just completed BR for PT 41. My real score was a 168 and my BR score was 171 (previously my score for this PT was 150).... Yes, I have completed this PT before....BUT...I legitimately did not recall ANY games/answers for the LG section (went -0), nor any passages/answers for the RC section (went -4... completed 3 passages thoroughly and only got 1 wrong then guessed all "D" for the last passage which got me 3 wrong on that passage). However, I did recall only about 3 or 4 questions in total from both LR sections combined.

What do I make of this huge jump?? Do you think I subconsiously recalled questions/answers??

Sorry for such a wordy post, but I'm cautiously ecstatic and I would really appreciate any input !

Hey people with test day experience,

Are experimental sections typically LR, LG, RC or random? Also, can you usually tell which one it is based on it being too easy or extremely difficult.

I want to be mentally prepared for the possible intense difficulty of an experimental section and not let it disrupt my flow too much

I only have up to prep test 57. Is it important that I try newer ones prior to taking the December test? If so, where is the best place to obtain them? Thanks!

that game is cake compared to games with the super random, sneaky rules (like the television program one with 0.5 slots and whole slots, and you had to make 5 slots not 6).

what games have you found very hard?????

I'm hoping I will be this person

Is it possible to obtain a complete list of PrepTests needed for the Problem Sets that are used for the 7Sage Ultimate Course? It would save me some time because when I get to a Problem Set, I spend time checking to see if I've purchased the PT already, only to find out that I haven't. I've been using the silent videos but I would prefer to have a hard copy and I'm just realizing that the Problem Sets appear to be from PT's earlier than 36. So rather than me jumping ahead to the lessons to accumulate the PT's needed, I figured I would ask if a list is available. If not, then I would like to suggest that perhaps 7Sage consider making a list.

Hey all. I need some endurance tips or something. I'm writing 4 section PTs and after the second section my numbers fall off a table. Today's test: Section 1. LR: 74% S2 RC: 75% S3 LR: 48% 15 minute break and then S4 LG: 65%.

As for my two LR scores, according to the data on 7sage, the first LR (74%) was in fact harder than the second (48%). I'm still working away but I feel like confidence and practice don't matter as much as mental endurance.... I dunno. Test is 14 days away.... How do you prep for marathon?

thanks,

DE

Hi all,

I can't resist reaching out to you all for some advice, as it's been so quality in the past!

I've finished both the course and LSAT trainer and I'm now two PTs in (not much, I know), and wondering if I should suspend PTs and do some drilling. Or just keep doing PTs with quality BR?

I really memorized as much as I could during the core course, and took my time to internalize the concepts before moving on.

I will take the Dec test.

First PT: RC 19/26, LG 19/23, 1st LR 21/26, 2nd LR 24/26

Second PT: RC 25/26, LG 14/24,1st LR 19/26, 2nd LR 23/25

On the second PT I messed up some rules on LGs and knew I was doing terribly, ended up panicking a bit and I only got to 3 of the 4 games. But my main concern is the variety of problem sections here... after my first test I thought RC was my worst section, now it looks like LG. LR looks much more consistent across the two tests. How can I tell what I need to work on the most?

Any advice for how to proceed? I need high 160s and would be thrilled with anything past 170. I'm BRing around 178, so I given enough time I get what is going on in all sections.

I only got through about half the LG bundle before PTs, and I know it is the least intuitive section for me. So I plan to work through the bundle, but not sure if I should suspend PTs in the meantime. I would like to do 20-30 PTs before the Dec test, but obviously only if that is the most beneficial strategy here.

Thanks for any advice! Good luck to everyone.

Today is the day. I am going to sit down and .... start..... my personal statements. I've applied to a program before, but I'm just not sure what to write or if I'm on track.

I know this may be weird, but does anyone have a PS they'd be okay with letting me read? I just want a general sense of one, to make sure I'm even kind of on track. Or... does anyone know of a place I could go for a reference/help?

Thanks a bunch :D

What should I be doing to ensure that my time studying is utilized in an efficient manner? After finishing the 7sage course I took 4 PT's 19-22 I am averaging in the 150's with BR's in the 160's. I do not want to waste PT's. What should I be doing at this point, drilling, or continue PT'ing? I currently stopped PT'ing and decided to drill my LR weaknesses as well as logic games. My logic games is still terrible, but I just recently started getting into deep Logic games drilling and understanding. I am using the fool proof method and getting better, but I am def still terrible.

Any tips? My most recent exam was 169 w/ 179 BR. I got 2 wrong on the RC, 4 wrong each on two LR sections,... and a TON wrong on the logic games.

How did you break 170?

Quick question,

My PT scores overall, and for the last 10 tests especially, have remained constant:

159: 1

160: 1

162: 1

163: 6

164: 1

(in no particular order)

These exams have all been from PTs 55-66, so newer material. All of my BR ranges from 168-172. I have been at this since March, with a diagnostic score of 148. Have I peaked? What can I do to surge another couple points before test day?

I typically take a PT every other day, with BR, LG drills or study of a certain LR question type on the in between days.

Any help would be great!

This list is not in any particular order.

1) Get exposure to natural light. Light inhibits melatonin production. Your body has a natural circadian rhythm that is tied to the day/night cycle. So basically, at night it produces melatonin and that helps you fall asleep. Keep in mind that exposure to smartphones also inhibits melatonin production. But you've probably already noticed that lol.

2) Take a very cold shower. When your body is experiencing a cold environment, it redistributes blood from external parts to more internal (and integral) parts of your body such as your heart and brain. In other words, it gives your body a little shock and improves blood circulation.

3) Short-term vs long-term energy. In short, if you're a coffee drinker, put a healthy fat in your coffee. Coconut oil (virgin) or butter for instance. Fat is a longer term energy source so it's a good sidekick for your coffee.

4) Exercise. Did you think I was going to leave this one out? This one is more obvious. I personally don't overdo it. Just some movement not necessarily power lifting or marathon running lol. The goal is to improve circulation.

This isn't an exhaustive list. There are other things you can do and I'm sure everyone has their own daily routine anyway. Maybe there are some exercise scientists here as well. I didn't mention ingesting protein as part of your breakfast, which is also beneficial. But anyway, I wanted to share this and maybe it'll help you out.

Hello Folks,

If you check my posts, I have timing problems. When I do the test untimed, I get more than 20 points higher (160s) than the timed test. Any input is very appreciated.

If you are having ANY issues with LR, especially flaw related questions (which if you haven't realized yet, they pretty much all are, and LSAT Trainer will tell you that) then you have got to get the LSAT Trainer. It is unreal how simple the book makes detecting and finding flaws. It trains you to approach questions in a way that neither 7sage nor PS have been able to do for me. I have only read about half of the LR curriculum in the book, but have already seen improvement. In fact, I just took PT 65 and only had -1 on the first LR section and -0 after BR, whereas I usually average -5. Granted it's a small sample size, but the key is that I no longer approach questions, especially NA and SA, and have NO clue what to do. Thanks to LSAT Trainer I have so much more confidence when going up against those questions.

TL;DR Buy LSAT trainer to help with LR, it works. And no, I don't work for the author. :)

Hello all,

I have been consistently scoring well on PT's in the 60's, but I've experienced a drop off on PT's 70-75 on reading comprehension and logic games. On those two sections, what exactly is the test doing differently? Has anyone noticed any patterns or tricky behavior by the test makers? I can't quite put my finger on it, but they seem tougher.

so basically I've been studying since May, but I made a mistake and was practicing with really old tests. So until last week, I was getting around 168-169 and a couple 170+ .....but then recently (right after the September 11 deadline to change test date) I tried the recent tests and my scores have dropped by a lot erratically. I know it's my fault - I was dumb and was practicing with ancient tests so I know what I did wrong there, but I wanted some advice on moving forward

I have to take the October test now but I'll cancel my score (which sucks), but I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong??? I feel like I forgot everything I've learned, and I still haven't established "habits" on any of the sections. Every time I get good at a section type, I feel like I forgot everything in the other sections!!! I don't know how to explain this but I just feel stupid

How do you guys organize your weeks with PTing and reviewing content? I've been PTing and BRing 3 times a week, but I still haven't established habits that come naturally. Under the time pressure, I always forget to do VERY important things, like identify the conclusion or find the flaw before moving on to answer choices! Especially with the recent tests, I go back to being a beginner when timing myself

"People want to be instantly"

Just want to make sure I'm diagramming correctly. The conclusion that it's imprudent to appear prudent can be diagrammed as the following:

It is imprudent to appear pru.

APrudent----> imprudent

I diagrammed the premise that people who appear prudent are generally resented as: APrudent-----> GR

The gap is GR------> imprudent which is what answer choice E is saying (It is imprudent to cause people to resent you) So if you cause people to resent you, it is imprudent. So the chain is as follows APrudent-----> GR----> Imprudent.

Was my diagramming correct?

Title basically sums it up. I'm wondering what's worked for people "drilling" RC. How many full sections per day would be ideal?

With approx 2 weeks till test day i am starting to feel stressed. I work 9 to 7 everyday and work out 4 days a week. In the past I have been waking up at 5 to study 3 hours before work. I have no new material to cover-- just all section work and full PTS (I'm scoring around 175 on retakes). Any suggestions for a study schedule moving forward? I want to be 100 percent for test day!

Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere, but I'm wondering what procedure people use for adding an extra section in. Do you always do a particular one, like LG, or mix it up? How do you choose where to stick it in? One thing I'm concerned about is that I won't devote my full effort to it if I know which section is unscored. I just want to make my practice testing as representative as possible of the real LSAT

What the hell do I put aside from, "Dishwasher -- McDonald's 2008-2014" ?

jk, but really?

Ok so I would appreciate feedback on my thought process for this Nec. Assumption question. I chose B incorrectly and am trying f

Conclusion: philosophical thought is unique to humans

Evidence: Apes are the only nonhuman animals who can learn human language.

Apes have never verbally articulated, in human language, philosophical questions

Ok, so the gaps/assumptions I noted were:

1. The author is assuming that because the apes haven't asked these questions in human language that they are incapable of phil. thought; but what if the apes are perfectly capable of asking phil. questions in human language but just haven't done so. So to add on to the first assumption the author is concluding that in order to prove that a creature can think philosophically, the creature has to have demonstrated that it can think philosophically by expressing philosophical thoughts through human language. The ape hasn't expressed philosophical thoughts through human language and therefore must be incapable of philosophical thought.

I chose B because I was focusing on this gap of the argument; just because the ape hasn't physically expressed a philosophical question in human language doesn't mean that they can't think philosophically. Maybe they can think about these philosophical things without speaking (which means they are capable of philosophical thought). So I chose B because I felt it closed up the gap. If apes are incapable of thinking in human language, that can explain why they haven't asked any phil questions in human language.

But I'm noticing something as I type. Just because apes are incapable of thinking in human language doesn't mean that they are necessarily incapable of philosophical thought. It could be the case that they think philosophically in their own ape language. So the assumption I'm realizing now that the test is looking for is something along the lines that to be capable of philosophical thoughts, creatures must be able to express phil. thoughts using human language.

An ape can't express phil. thoughts using human language and therefore can't think phil.

A bear can't express phil. thoughts using human langauge and therefore can't think phil.

This matches up best with answer C.

Why I didn't choose C was because it discusses the way in which philosophical thought can be expressed and I reckoned that we're more concerned with if creatures can think a certain way not if they can express that they think a certain way. In other words, if the answer choice said THE ONLY creatures capable of philosophical thought can express phil. thought in human language, I would have chosen this.

Can someone explain why answer choice C is correct even though it just talks about how phil. thought can be expressed??

Thanks so much in advance

Still available! Any takers??