So...as expected my judgement was correct and instead of increasing 6-7 points, I went in the opposite direction (157 to 151 despite PTing between 158-163 consistently). I have not been studying since this Nov test because I was experiencing a lot of burn out and needed a break. I've already dished out a lot $$$ for this test, and really believed I would score higher and help boost my applications as my GPA is on the lower side. Already spent enough $$$ on applications that were due prior to Dec 1st but how terrible would it look to committees to see a drop in scores? Not sure if I want to nor if I have enough time to prepare for the January LSAT. 😔

For reference purposes I am a Canadian applicant.

So I had a really difficult time with this question because of answer choice A. When it says "takes for granted," is that saying the author is assuming the information in this choice to be true? And why isn't the information in A pointing out a flaw? If it were the case that a different advertising campaign would do better than the one LRG went with, wouldn't the marketing consultant's conclusion be invalid?

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does anyone have the set for pt 91 section 1 logic game 3? I think I am missing some sort of inference or my rules are messed up because I'm having some trouble with this game.

thanks

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I had a question, I rewrote my lsat yesterday and I was wondering what will happen to my previous LSAT score?

Just wanted to share my journey with everyone and express how happy I am that I found 7sage.

Started 7sage in the beginning of July 2021 and just got my score back from the November LSAT. Somehow even with the random disconnects and stops throughout the test I managed to get a 165. This was huge for me and things are finally looking up again. Thank you 7sage for being the resource I needed!

Hey,

I apologize for the length of the post but would really appreciate if someone, anyone can share some advice for how to navigate a large LSAT score drop. My November 2020 score was a 166 and I just received my Nov 2021 score which was a 159, a 7 point decrease. I’ve been preparing for this retake for almost a year and I was PTing in the high 160s, breaking 170-172 one in every few tests. My last three PTs before the exam were all recent exams on which I scored 167-171 (even a 174 with BR). On test day, I felt decent after the exam. I noticed a relatively significant struggle with one RC passage and timing near the end of LG, but that’s not entirely uncommon, and usually places me toward the bottom of my range around a 165-167. I panicked a little at first when starting the test, but recognized the adrenaline rush and revisited those early questions that I felt were fogged by this response. As you can imagine, I am totally crushed about this score drop. I hadn’t scored a 159 on a single PT and was expecting mid to high 160s. It’s not the score itself (I am not looking to put down any scores!!) , but rather the work behind the retake and the look of this down trend. I really must have been off or out of it but I am honestly quite confused. Between work, burnout, and this score blow, I am not ready to jump into another administration, so while I could potentially retake in the spring, I am feeling far from up for it at this time and will need to carry on with the app cycle as it stands. At this time, the majority of my applications are in and I am hoping someone can advise on how to address this 7 point drop to the schools I have already submitted apps to. I’m sure there are reasons for the drop but I was genuinely shocked and confused; I don’t really know what to say. There is at least one school that requires I address this variance. Has anyone ever navigated a similar situation? Do I need to also submit an explanation to the schools that don’t explicitly ask for an explanation? I don’t want to search for false explanations or excuses. Can I give a more concise/cogent version of the above?

Apologies for the lengthy post. Many many many thanks for any input and I wish you all the scores and schools of your dreams. 🙏

Can someone explain why answer is A and not E? ####HELPPPP Thank you.

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I've been actively practicing reading comp for a while now 6+ months and my score is at a stagnant and constant 15/27. I do the problems and do blind review and still have issues. I feel like I'm constantly -2 or -3 on each passage and I don't know how to improve my accuracy. I feel more comfortable doing RC, but I don't understand why my accuracy fails. What has helped you improve on RC? I'm feeling stuck and I am open to any suggestions.

Does anyone have a LR study guide that I could use that explains the strategy for each question type?

So for 24, I was confused by the question stem. When it says support the position of Passage B over that of Passage A, does that mean we are trying to strengthen B and weaken A? Or just strengthen B and have neutral effect on A? Confusing AF. And I got stuck between A and D. I understand how D strengthens B but what does it do to A? And why is answer choice A incorrect? Doesn't Passage B state that flat tax proposals are supposed to bring in the same amount?

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Does anyone have a good comprehensive strategy for addressing these question types? They are very similar to strengthen, but for some reason I find them more difficult. For example, often times the answers appear as principles, sometimes a weaker principle would work for one question and a stronger principle is required for another. Does anyone have a good method for eliminating answer choices here and selecting a choice with the correct amount of strength?

Thanks,

Oliver

(E) says that "There are some societies where there exists no concept of blame;" however, this could not possibly weaken Passage B's argument.

Elsewhere in the passage, one of the authors writes that "rehabilitation" (i.e. non-blame-focused) judicial systems dominated in the mid-twentieth-century, but this resulted in a huge blame-focused backlash in subsequent decades.

These societies had "no concept of blame," but they ended up seeing the consequences of that later.

Someone help me out?

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As the title says, how long did it take you to break the -5~-6 ceiling? And were you studying full time or part time?

Team,

I just joined 7sage. I struggle immensely with RC. I have been scoring a consistent 13-15 correct for months now. It’s actually incredible. I am very solid at LG and LR is in the 20+ range consistently as well.

I am an engineer so there wasn’t much reading in my undergrad - it was mostly problem solving. I think my fundamental skills are lacking and that’s why I struggle so much. I am not in a hurry to take the LSAT, but RC is the only action I am not performing where I would like to be. So it is frustrating being held back so from taking it by one section.

I have heard the advice to take my time and do 3 passages entirely and correctly, and guess on the 4th. It seems to work better for me and I am okay with that because it’ll get me to 20 correct, but I just can’t seem to get 3 done correctly.

I am losing hope. If anyone has any ideas I would greatly appreciate it. Granted I just joined so I have not tried any 7sage material yet.

5 star NA question.

Is this a triple conclusion passage?

Looking for another opinion on this question regarding the stimulus. This passage strikes me as having a sub sub conclusion, as in 3 conclusions total. Do you see that as well? If not, please let me know.

I see:

Sub conclusion. [Because] Sub Sub conclusion, because sub sub conclusion premise. Thus, main conclusion.

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I am sure it is somewhere in the CC; but does anyone know where I can find the list of words that introduce a Premise or a conclusion? Words like so or therefore? Do we have a list?

Thank you!

Anyone who retook the Nov test get an email about keeping or cancelling your score, how did you answer it? I'm worried about choosing the wrong option due to the ambiguity of the language I'm not sure whether they're referring to the retest score or the original score. And I just checked my LSAT registrations on the LSAC site and under special notes it says "score validity review" does anyone else have this? or is this a separate issue?

Took the LSAT yesterday. After my 10 minute break it took an additional 20 minutes for me to connect with a proctor and re-enter the test. I was terrified that something had gone wrong (I sent them a message every few minutes with zero response), but everything was smooth afterwards.

Just wanted to let test takers know that this is a possibility to be prepared for!

Hi,

The answer here was B, but I chose D. Can anyone help explain to me why B is right and D is wrong? For context:

Here was my reasoning for why I thought D was right:

I thought that passage A would agree-- on line 13, he describes an argument that explains that progressive taxes make rich pay more, he never disputes that fact, and later on in the last paragraph, he even implies that progressive makes rich pay more by talking about how progressive gives rich more incentives to try to cheat the system than flat tax would.

In addition, I thought passage B would disagree-- on line 34, he says that progressive treats all taxpayers equally.

Here was my reasoning for why I thought B was wrong:

I knew for sure that passage B would agree on this issue (line 56). However, I wasn't sure if passage A would agree or disagree since in the last paragraph of passage A, it seems that passage A is saying that MOST rich people in flat tax systems (line 27-- denoted by the word "usually") pay the same as people in progressive tax systems. In addition, the fact that rich people in flat tax systems, without any apparent tax dodging, pay about the same as progressively taxed rich people, shows that they would normally pay less had the progressively taxed rich people had not dodged. Thus, this COULD mean that SOME rich people in progressive tax systems still pay more than rich people in flat tax systems, making passage A a bit ambiguous on this issue.

#Help

Thanks!

Best regards

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Hey everyone, I am very devastated as I write this and am in desperate need of some advice. I was consistently scoring -3/-4 from the last couple weeks in LR and even had a perfect score once. Since day before yesterday my score has been dropping significantly. -5/-7 and I just got a -9 on PT70 S4. This is the lowest score I ever got and I'm not sure what is going wrong. There is no common question type except SA or NA that I get wrong. If anyone went through a similar situation or anyone has any suggestion please reach out.

Hey everyone. I was wondering if anyone can give some helpful tips for the reading comp section. This is my weakest and slowest section. I struggle to finish barely even 3 passages in the allocated time and the questions I do get to in time, half of them are wrong. Basically looking for a RC holy grail.

Thank you in advance and good luck on your studies!

I have been trying not to think of my test at all since taking it but I made the terrible decision to listen to the PowerScore Podcast. I have been PTing 0 to -2 on LG but this test really threw me off and I just found out the LG section I did terrible in is the one that counts. I cannot contain my tears right now, my score was riding on LG.

So I’ve posted once before and would like to get a new perspective on this question. I thought the second sentence was supported by the first and so picked answer choice C. Why is that not the case? Could I have someone who truly understands the question break it down completely so this post thread doesn’t get too long? Like break down the role each sentence plays? I thought it was premise (people only care about what’s an obvious threat) subsidiary conclusion (that’s why people see contaminated water as a threat rather than ozone) then main conclusion (why we won’t have a grassroots movement to combat air pollution anytime soon) but that’s wrong apparently.

The conclusion reached above depends on which one

of the following assumptions?

(A)

(B)

(C)

(D)

(E)

The pre-Columbian inhabitants of Mexico

played games on all ceremonial occasions.

The making of rubber balls was one of the

earliest uses of rubber by the inhabitants of

Mexico.

The ceremonial game referred to was popular

throughout Mexico.

The game had been played since its inception

with a rubber ball.

The dating of the first use of rubber in Mexico

was due to Cortez.

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