Hey all,

Ive made some good progress studying for LR and mainly get the easy to medium questions all right. However, on a lot of my preptests (about 6+ of them) I always seem to mainly get the level 4 and 5 questions all wrong. Any advice on how to get better at really difficult questions? Should I just focus on drilling that difficulty only? It always seems like the support between the premise and the conclusion or the assumptions are way more convoluted. I've already read the Loophole FYI and it helped a lot, but those questions still get me. Thanks for any help I really appreciate it!

Aren't the two logical equivalents? Mistaken Reversal is "confusing Necessary for Sufficient" while it's the other way around for Mistaken Negation. If the answer choice states "confusing Sufficient for Necessary" and the premise contains a mistaken reversal, is that still the correct choice? This has been bothering me a lot.

Hey guys I'm really struggling with the logic on this one when diagramming. https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-21-section-3-question-06/

I think the majority of the confusion is coming from issues with my initial conditional chain and never having encountered wording like this before/how to make sense of it. I think I have an idea of what is going on but just wanted to see if I might be off since no one else in the comments seemed to be having the issue I'm having.

What I initially had up to the referential phrase of "if they do not" was:

IGA→ U or A

When I read the "if they do not" I thought it translated to /U or A and then became

/(U or A) → F

But since I already had U or A as a conditional I thought this would create two conditionals stemming from /(U or A):

/(U or A) → F

/(U or A)→ /IGA

What JY, and seems like everyone else did, was during the very beginning go like:

OR

#1 being the should be scenario and #2 being the less than ideal situation.

Since the stim goes on to give us Morton's book, and you can assume that Morton's book falls into the less than ideal situation, you don't even worry about using option #1. So what I'm wondering is when I see a stimulus like this where it uses prescriptive words like "should" "ought" etc. with a conditional then I need to think of it more like this problem where its scenario based over the usual "If, then" construction and then trying to link that statement with potentially more.

Hi, has anyone here taken LSAT Flex before and know how this room scan thing works? I know I have to clear my desk, but do I have to clear my shelf and drawers as well?

D- "No apartment above the fourth floor of the building has more than two bedrooms. But only three-bedroom apartments have balconies. Thus, if any apartments in the building has a balcony, it is on the fourth floor or lower."

I checked some other forums' explanation which all said it's a contrapositive. But isn't there a mismatch between a singular and a plural form?

Could someone please help explain? Thanks.

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I get extra RC practice in by reading articles that are a bit longer than typical LSAT RC passages and that also feature current events (makes it easier for me to be an engaged reader). Here's a good one in a recent WSJ regarding Maya Lin's light-drenched revamp of the library at Smith College. Happy reading! (Hopefully the link works) Don't forget to low-res on the way! https://emailshare.cmail19.com/t/n/d-l-44ffaf57962d11eba555e043580a8292-l-d-r-l/

For me, doing LR questions 1-10 always feel significantly harder than doing the later LR questions, even though I know they're supposed to be easier. I find myself spending a disproportionate amount of time on the earlier questions. This happens on EVERY preptest. I think I'm having trouble getting into the "LR mindset" right away and thinking too much/questioning myself too much during Qs 1-10. Has anyone ever encountered this issue? Any advice on how to get into the LR mindset quickly?

Is there anyone who didnt get time slot for april exam?

I did upload my photo and registered for lsat flex, but somehow i didnt get email.

Hi all,

So, I am getting 80% of my answers correct on my first pass and the remainder correct during Blind review, but I seem to be doing so via intuition and not readily seeing the conclusion and premises. After watching the explanation videos I ask myself 'How didn't you see the structure?'. I think I'm getting too hung up looking for indicators that don't exist and then after being flustered I mix up sub conclusions for conclusions. Somehow my intuition saves me but I don't like that I don't see the structure. Any thoughts on how to improve? Thanks in advance.

Hi,

I was wondering if there were rules for negating NA answer choices? Because in one example (PT 32, S4. Q19), answer choice B (Every hour devoted to the teaching of preventive medicine reduces medical costs by 10 percent or more), JY negated the answer choice by making it 1%. But I negated the answer choice as "Every hour devoted to the teaching of preventive medicine does not reduces medical costs by 10 percent or more", I was just confused if there was a rule or mechanical method that we are supposed to follow, since my negation makes the answer choice much more favorable as an answer.

Thx

Hi, I chose the right answer, but I just wanna know how the psychologist reasons.

I thought the argument would have made more sense if the conclusion were "expressing gratitude anonymously is bad for the society."

So, what support does the psychologist uses to conclude there is an obligation to express gratitude, which cannot be fulfilled anonymously? Is the support from "the important social function [...]"?

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Hey y'all,

I am really struggling on how to grasp flaw questions. I was wondering if someone could help me in regards to how to make these questions easier (maybe a pdf of as many flaws as possible with how to answer them or like answer choices that would show up to demonstrate these flaws, etc. (I hope this is making sense)) and also any advice you could give me. I truly appreciate any help! I hope y'all have a great day!

Hi,

I've seen "whatever" in many questions. For example:

i) "The meaning of a poem is whatever the author intends to communicate to the reader by means of the poem."

(PT57.S2.Q24)

ii) "The meaning of a poem is whatever meaning a reader assigns to it"

(PT55.S3.Q24)

My intuition is to make both sentence biconditional, without any strong logic reason.

I checked some grammar books, one mentions it's a relative and conditional determiner. It seems to also suggest that both of the sentences are bi-condiitonal.

So I want to know how you think about this. Any insights and comments would be really appreciated.

Thanks.

Premise: Resign--->Convicted

Conclusion: Convicted--->Resign

Would this be confusing N for S or S for N? I thought the two were interchangeable but they aren't right? Because this is a mistaken reversal, which is confusing N for S? The answer choice says confusing S for N, but isn't it the reverse?

Resign---> Convicted

/Resign---> /Convicted

Would this be confusing S for N?

Hi all,

Does anyone have any advice/tips on taking the writing portion of the LSAT? I've read it doesn't normally count for or against you and is used mainly to show you're competent with writing. I've read a couple of articles on prepping for it, but wanted to see what people have to say on here! Thanks!

I just took the writing portion and during the room scan I realized that there were a few things that I needed to remove from the room. I removed those things and had to rescan a couple of times. Since I had to leave the room will this invalidate my writing? Will I be able to call and have it reset? I know the video is on the whole time even outside of the room scan and actual test...

Hi Fellow 7sagers,

So I understand that while a few gifted few of us score within the 99-90th percentile-however it has come to my realization that at the very least the LSAT may as well be a gamble of an exam.

Case and point with the LSAT logic games section there is, and practically speaking so; a strategy of “skipping the Substitution question”- which at least seems to me to be a bit oddly peculiar when compared with other standardized exam formats. That is to say, after all there no other exam other than the LSAT has such a mechanic in place. Mind you I understand that as a future lawyer most of our work will consist of attention to detail, problem solving and lots of reading-however at least technically speaking the LSAT exam is at best a gamble-more particularly the Logic Games section. All this said, I am proud to announce that I have completely MASTERED the substitution question type granted my utilization of test prep materials such as Powerscore and 7sage-however I still find it to be a problematic case that the “skip this question due to time concerns” phenomena occurs-granted the livi tied time feature of the exam. Now bear with me I am intelligible enough to understand what rupees of arguments are bickering and at the very best complaining but I am convinced that I have hit a significant concern granted the evidence that most substitution questions warrant a person scoring in the high 80-90th percentile considering the performance curve. Therefore my question as a matter of this circumstance stands as-would anyone feel inclined to agreeing that the LSAT ought to seek a reformatting in the coming future? Perhaps an exam that consisted of just the Reading Comprehension Section and Logical Reasoning Section (2 major components of being a successful lawyer) would suffice as a legitimate test for law school admission. Any thoughts. Thanks.

Am I missing something here?

This is a parallel method of reasoning question, and I know what the right answer is, but I thought parallel method of reasoning questions had to have a valid argument form.

Isn't this an invalid argument form / sufficiency necessity confusion:

X--->/Y

Gerald (/Y)

Gerald (X)

Isn't it wrong to say /Y therefore, we conclude X.

What am I missing here! This is an earlier test, so that could be the issue...

#help

Hey 7sagers,

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Hey fellow 7Sagers,

I'm confused about one miscellaneous logical indicator, "is necessary".

For example, "Happiness is necessary for success".

Would the lawgical translation be S > H?

In LSAT 22 - Section 2 - Question 18, it reads,

"To classify a work of art as truly great, it is necessary that the work have both originality and far reaching influence upon the artistic community".

JY draws out in lawgic that TG > O and F.

Can someone explain to me how this is correct? I thought the lawgical translation would be O and F > TG.

Hi, __I'm a student testing for the LSAT flex this April, but I saw that my testing date was moved from April 11th to April 13th eastern time.

Has anybody else had this problem?

I saw on the site that some tests could be delayed for proctor requirement accommodations, but I think this is so unfair if that's the case for me :(

I now have to take the test on a between two busy school days at nighttime hahahahah. I was expecting a peaceful sunday testing lmao.

The last sentence reads "The device is not yet used by a large percentage of car owners, but in cities where only a small percentage of car owners have the device installed, auto thefts have dropped dramatically."

I was very confused when reading "dramatically"; I thought it simply means an obvious drop in auto theft. But the size of the drop is still unknown---it can be small or huge. So I was struggled to spot a discrepancy.

Or, doe "dramatically" mean more than half of all auto thefts were dropped? I checked its dictionary meaning "by a strikingly large amount or to a strikingly large extent; greatly."

Any comments or insights would be really helpful! Thanks.

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How are others spending the home stretch before the test? I'm wondering what the best ways to maximize the last ten days are - focus on practice tests to simulate test day, review particular problem sets / problem types, review logic fundamentals, or something different. I've completed all of the core curriculum except for some of the RC problem sets, and am curious what others are finding most helpful in the build up to test day.

Hi all! I am really struggling with RC and am missing 5 to 10 questions in the section and need to strategize better. Does any one have any recommendations for improving? There was a very comprehensive post made by someone on RC strategies a few months ago but I cant find it. I mostly struggle with hard art history passages, and then science passages but usually the questions in the science passages are easier even when the passage might be harder to read. Do you recommend using any additional resources? and if you have used additional resources then when did you start seeing improvement? how long did you work on the RC section before seeing any improvement? any advice or suggestions will be really helpful!!

Trying to test my equipment in advance of the April LSAT and every time I refresh the system metrics page I just end up on the same page. I tested my equipment without issue in advance of the Feb exam and then on test day ProctorU couldn't access my camera. After two hours with their support I ended up having to reschedule.

I have a brand new laptop, am using Chrome, have cleared my cache, checked permissions, everything appears to be fine. I literally have no idea what the problem is. Wondering if anyone else has experienced similar frustrations and if so, were you able to fix the issue(s)?

Any tips/advice would be much appreciated as I'm honestly at a loss with this damn thing.

Thanks, all.