Hey 7Sagers,

Sat for the Feb 10 LSAT last weekend... and not feeling too great about my performance. I think I scored the same or maybe a point or two lower than my previous attempt. I have been considering cancelling my score (deadline to cancel is tomorrow).

My post-game analysis:

Section 1: Real LG — These games were unusual and it really messed my head up... guessed on ALOT

Section 2: LR1 — Felt that this section of LR was easier than normal but it took me a while to get into the flow after basically panicking during section 1 games... ended up guessing on four questions

Section 3: Exp LG — These games were so much easier and more traditional... on test day I felt a bit of relief and thought that perhaps my first section of LG was the experimental, but after checking the forums, I was greatly disappointed these didn't count

Section 4: RC — Thought the RC section was on par with recent tests.. certainly not as difficult as Candor though... was short on time for the last passage but gave it my best answering questions

Section 5: LR2 — Felt this section of LR to be way more challenging. The stimuli were a bit harder to grasp... guessed on the last four or so.

Overall, I feel less confident about this attempt than my previous. I'm just not sure what to do... the last thing I want to do is post a score a few points lower than my previous attempt, but I also don't want to cancel would might have been better score... what do you guys think? Anyone else facing a similar situation?

Side discussion, how do you guys deal with test-day anxiety? I've been meditating and all of that but still freak on test day! :(

I have to say I was skeptical about the fool proofing piece of the process but it really does work! Just wanted to send along some encouragement to anyone struggling with LG. Hang in there!

Greetings fellow LSAT enthusiasts! I have decided to learn each question type one at a time. This way, I feel I can master one fully, then proceed to master the next one.

Is anyone aware of any listing of LSAT questions according to type.

IE: Necessary Assumptions questions:

Test 14 Sec 2 # 13, 15, 20.

Test 15 Sec 2 # 6, 16, 23

Test 15 Sec 3 #, 3, 12, 18, 24

Premise: G –m→ F

Conclusion: C ←s→ G

This is a question from 7Sage course.

It is asking to find sufficient assumption and the correct answer is F-->C.

I totally agree with the answer, however, was wondering F--m-->C can also be the correct answer.

Hello,

So I'm finding that I'm doing fairly well on the LR section until I get to Q's18-26 and then for some reason, I can't get a hold of the remaining questions. Obviously these are the more difficult questions, but I was wondering what strategies people used in order to combat this difficulty besides just studying more. For example, has anyone tried doing those questions first? Any tips or advise are welcome, I just keep hitting a wall every time I get to those later questions and I wanted to know how other people dealt with it effecively.

Thanks!

Is blind review for an LR section -2 good? On the timed part I got -6..... First shot doing a timed section in a while :D. This method seems to be key. On a diagnostic I got -11 on LR! Taking June Test...

Hi guys,

I was working through PT25/S3/Q7 when I read this phrase and wondered, "is it a biconditional?"

"warranted" means "sufficient", so to re-phrase the statement would be: "X can be sufficient only when Y"

X---> Y

Y-->X

Please correct me if I'm wrong!

Thank u!

(Happy Valentine's Day!)

This paradox question seemingly has two correct answers: A and E. The paradox is that HE (home ownership) corresponds with prosperity while HE also corresponds with unemployment. Choice A deals with how it can correlate with unemployment while E deals with how it correlates with prosperity ("economically secure" is synonymous enough with "economic prosperity"). Both answers seemingly fall short of explaining the other side of the paradox. However, I chose E on the basis the A was more wrong in that it states that owning a home makes it harder to move to a region "where jobs are MORE plentiful" (emphasis added). We are not precluding jobs from being plentiful from where our home is. Just that on the "plentiful scale", our region is lower.

At the end of the day though, Choice A is correct and I haven't found any forum that adequately explains why. Here's my explanation. Please share your thoughts on it.

The stimulus is not concerned with why HE correlates with prosperity. The author seems to take it for granted and already understands it. His wonderment begins at the second sentence when he introduces the correlation to unemployment. In other words, his real question is why HE can ever correspond to unemployment. And Choice A is the only answer that addresses this issue. This is not really a paradox question in my opinion but more of a Strengthener.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-75-section-3-question-05/

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I dont think I am technically a retaker you will see why - I was scheduled to take this February test, BUT due to a personal crisis situation I could not take the test :(, yeah life happens too!!!

I am shooting for the 2019 app cycle and am planning on registering for the test in June 2018. My avg PT score is 168, which is not great I know but was a journey from my 153 diag score (shout out to JY's CC and 7sage community).

I have been working for a big technology company for the past 6 years a.k.a hectic 50 to 60 hr work week + I am a parent of a toddler.

Now with all that said my current situation is that I burned a lot of PT's specially the modern PT's 70 -83. I tried to be very diligent and do a thorough BR after each PT, I only have PT77 and PT78 untouched which sucks. I finished the CC last year. As for sections I am good with LG -0 mostly and sometimes -1 if i hit a hard games, LR is decent, RC is my worst section (-7 avg) I am still haunted by a -11 on PT74 RC.

I am paralyzed and not sure how to proceed with the prep for June, I now want to aim for 170+. My brain is still reeling from recent events and I cant think of how to prep and how to PT. Also, since RC is my weakest section I tried drilling earlier RC's before the february test and they seem way different (easier) after doing 70+. I will take a 2-3 week break come back renew my 7sage account to begin with.

Please advise on a prep strategy, after all that rambling I want to say I have been on 7sage for 1 and half year now learned so much and very good to hear 7sagers success stories, very motivating.

So I've been fool proofing post CC. I started out on a schedule of 1 PT a day, drilling each game on day 1, 2, and 7. I'm figuring out that games are stacking very quickly. For example here is what a 7th days spread looks like with the method above. Day 1: PT1 Day 2: PT 1&2 Day 3: PT 3&2 Day 4: PT 4&3 Day 5: PT 5&4&1 Day 6: PT 6&5&1 Day 7: PT 7&6&3&1

What begins as a reasonable load quickly adds up to 4 PTs in one day, which is overkill in my opinion. Then on day 5 or 7 if I have missed even one question from the day 1 PT I will attempt it until a perfect score. I've now abandoned the original schedule. Instead, I have been doing 1 PT per day and simply attempting at least 4 other questions that had the lowest time or scores in prior games.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a cleaner, more methodical approach to fool proofing? I occasionally catch myself being biased and selectively choosing to repeat games that are difficult, but I actually enjoy over the games that I hate.

Not sure if this has been addressed already, I am aware LSAC does not release the February exam... but will we receive per section breakdowns at all, or just our score?

Thanks!

I took the test this Saturday and I am very conflicted on what to do. I took the test in Connecticut. It was 30 something degrees outside that morning. The room was initially warm when I got there so I sat in the corner by the window. We lost heat in the room when the test started and I basically took the first half of the exam shivering and freezing the entire time ( I am anemic). My hands were shaking the entire time because I was so cold. It was fixed during our break and we had heat the second half of the exam. The only section I was not able to complete was one of the sections I took during the first half. I honestly don't know if it was difficult or if was the conditions or maybe both coupled with nerves. Leading up to the exam, I haven't had any problems completing the sections. In fact I was really excited because I had spent a year prepping and I was scoring very well on my PTs.

To make things worst my proctor--(very sweet elderly lady) would continue to give us instructions AFTER starting our time. She did this for EVERY section. So as I am reading question number 1 with the clock running, she would be talking. I don't think it was intentional. She was very kind...but those seconds do add up. Everything is telling me I should cancel and reach out to LSAC. Any advice?

I am very bummed. I really wanted to be done with the LSAT after this weekend.

I put 10 copies of each of the games from the Powerscore Re-challenge into a OneNote notebook (screenshotted from my kindle copy). It was incredibly useful for foolproofing. The table of contents has a mastery checklist and also has links to each of the games. Each game page also has a link to J.Y's explanation videos on the 7sage website.

You can view some screenshots here:

https://ibb.co/j00W37

https://ibb.co/cu5yi7

https://ibb.co/n5YPan

I want to share for those of you who have Onenote on a tablet pc. It allowed me to carry my logic games prep with me everywhere.

You can download the notebook here: https://nofile.io/f/6KngWJsexb6/Logic+Games+Foolproofing.zip

You'll just need to extract it into your onenote notebooks folder (C:\Users[username]\Documents\OneNote Notebooks)

Also, to avoid illegally distributing content I password protected the zipfile. If you would like to use it, please send me a note verifying you own the current edition of the Powerscore Logic Games Bible (or, all of the preptests in the 2nd screenshot) and I will send you the password to unlock the zip file.

Hope this helps some!

Anybody know why you can't yet sign up for the July LSAT? Thanks so much!

So I was doing a MSS Question, specifically:

LSAT Preptest 20, Section 1, Question 1

After reading the stimulus, I went to the answer choices. Something clicked for me - I went back to the stimulus, read it, and then said “therefore,” then read each answer choice individually until I found one that I felt made a reasonable conclusion, given the set of premises in the stimulus. I settled on Answer Choice B through this method.

Am I onto something?

For the record, I haven’t gotten to the MSS Question type lessons on 7Sage, so if I have merely “discovered” something that JY goes over, please burst my bubble and tell me so.

First off, what type of question is this? I can't tell from the question stem. It seems like it's a cross between a SA and a MSS, but I'm not really sure.

I'm having a little trouble why seeing A is correct. Why can't there be other types of floor surfaces? I thought this was a little too strong.

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Is there an official thread for this? I need a distraction (or destruction)

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I normally crush the LG section and I found it really hard. I couldn't get past a few inconsistencies (obviously on my end). But I would like to know just quick responses. Harder, typical, or easier than usual?

According to this video, it seems like the Secret Service tests heavily on conditional logic. Try to see how many questions you can get right!

Hi! I'm practicing Must Be True/Most Supported questions and am having trouble with understanding why B is the correct answer as opposed to D. Answer D seems more like a paraphrase which is why I thought it's correct. Would love an explanation. Thanks!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-32-section-1-question-11/

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Is C right because its requires you to assume that since the number of large/med tornadoes reported has stayed the same, then the number of small tornadoes reported has increased? I'm not sure how one could see this answer strengthening the argument without making this assumption.

Hi why is C wrong? Wouldnt commercial development lead to more humans which lead to more mammals which eat the plants? I had a hard time distinguishing between C and D.

I am doing really well at the CC this year (as opposed to last year when I skimmed through it), getting 100% on most of the problem sets, and if I ever get a question or two wrong I'm getting them right upon BR. I know i've only gone thru the easier question types but I still feel good about my progress. I have been going through all of the problem sets (not saving any for later). I'm 20% done with the CC. I'm at the strengthening problem sets.

I'm wondering if I should start drilling MP/MSS/Weaken/Strengthen LR questions, maybe mixing together 25 of them of varying difficulty levels and taking them in 35 min like a full section in the test? So I can start working on my pacing. I don't see the point of drilling full LR sections from PTs as I have only learned how to do a few question types.

Or should I just drill sections of the exam when I am done with CC?

Since the question types do all relate to each other, and since I am reviewing my notes every day, I do not think I am necessarily doing myself a disservice by not repeating previously learned question types every day as I go through the CC.

I don't understand how E can be the correct answer. There actually appears to be no correct answer. The LSAT relies heavily on Formal Logic and applying a healthy dose of Logic to this answer dictates that every feature in slots 1-4 must contain either an "I" or an "M". Otherwise, you are a floater and can be anything. It should translate visually into this:

~5 ---> I or M

Alternatively, 1-4 ---> I or M.

In other words, slot 5 can also be I or M. The newspaper can have five M and one I without breaking any rules.

It appears a little bit like a double standard in this case as I can't see any way E conflicts with the rules using Formal Logic.

Hey all,

I just did #16 from PT 53, Section 1 --

the stimulus has clear conditional logic indicator words ... like "must," "any", etc. but after I watched the video explanation, i realized that answering the question does NOT use conditional logic/diagramming.

when i first tried to do the problem , I tried using conditional logic -- but got no where.

In the JY's video explanation, he doesn't use conditional logic -- EVEN though there are conditional indicator words.

How do you know whether to diagram (or NOT) -- especially when there ARE conditional logic indicator words?

Many thanks!