Hi all! So I'm preparing for the July 15 test, average is 169, and BR is almost always above 170 (took a bit of a hit transitioning from PTs 36-44, and now in the 70s). Working me bum off to routinely score 170+.

I am planning on taking 3 PTs/week (being okay with only 2 if time gets away from me--- I'm a full time grad student). Spending 20 hrs/week studying.

Because I'm doing so much BRing, I started to think that skipping the BR on the first 7 (or 10) LR questions for one out of three PTs each week would save massive time where I don't feel like I am actually gaining that much. The reasoning always seems natural, and I almost always get all of these questions correct.

Help me check myself: am I being lazy, or it this a fine strategic use of time?

I was wondering if some of yall could post examples of how you BR the logical reasoning section. I am stuck in the 20-22 per section and would really like that to be 22-24.

This was a difficult question about dinosaurs, fossil evidence and their argued relationship with reptiles. Many users chose AC D) but E) is correct. I can't seen to figure out what the "two present-day" phenomena are, can anyone help a gal out? THANK YOU

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Can you all take a look at this PT. I don't understand it all and I am getting aggravated, please.

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-june-2007-section-3-question-11/

would some one please help me understand how to properly translate answer choice E into formal logic? i have some idea from the discussion in the video explanation, but im having issues identifying the cues that led to these translations.

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how the f*ck am i supposed to get these hard LR questions right??? they take me like 10 mins to figure out and i STILL get them wrong lmao

Hello,

I am struggling with compound contrapositives. I know that when negating, you also have to switch the and/or. However, what about the use or absence of "but not both"?

Example from February 1999, link provided at bottom:

Two conditions within the problem are listed below:

If yews are not in the park, then either laurels or oaks, but not both, are in the park.

Original: ~Y-----> L or O

Contrapositive: ~L and ~O -----> Y.

If it is not the case that the park contains both laurels and oaks, then it contains firs and spruces.

Original: ~L and ~O ----> F and S

Contrapositive: ~F and ~S. -----> L or O

This second rule doesn't include the "but not both" but it seems to diagram the contrapositive regardless of the "but not both" piece's inclusion.

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Thank you,

Lindsay

Hey guys,

When using the negation method for necessary assumption, are both negatives negated if the sentence contains a double negative? For example, in the sentence "it is not the case that Amy never goes to the movies", would the negation be:

or

Thank you!

When looking at a flaw argument, could there be two or more possible flaws, such as a combination of self-contradiction and unwarranted prediction?

I have two weeks and I feel so under prepared and anxious about this test. Good news is I’m taking it early so if need be I can retake it. Anyone else had limited study time? Any tips?

Hello friends,

I was stuck on this question for a long time, trying to figure out what is going on. In the end, I think I got my head around it. Can someone check my work please?

The conclusion : To protect public from erroneous info ---------> Medical Research Findings are public.

It seems like:

Conclusion : C ---> A

The answer choice (A) seems to say B ---> A, which is the missing link. Then everything chains up nicely.

C----->B (-----) A.

Am I stretching what the actual words are saying to fit them into the clean logical chain?

Please help me :(

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Can anyone help me out with some good study techniques for tackling the Logic Games section???? Should I start by practicing the initial setup and then tackle the types of questions after???? This is by far my worst section for the test.

Thanks!!

My hunch tells me that this is supposed to be B-->A.

However, my buddy tells me that this is A-->B, which also sounds right.

I have another buddy who tells me that this is A(--)B because

(1) A accompanies B is B-->A

(2) Always is a sufficiency indicator, which means A-->B; ergo, A(--)B

In case you guys are wondering, this is PT51 Section 3 Number 20 Choice (A). This has nothing to do with the answer, but I still want to know :)

Could you guys help me with this?

Hi,

The title says it. To put into numbers, here are recent PTs I did.

PT75 RC: -6/-5(BR)

PT73 RC: -5/-3(BR)

PT76 RC: -7/-4(BR)

PT77 RC: -6/-6(BR)

I started preparing for LSAT about 10 weeks ago. My diagnostic with PT72 was RC: -4/-6(BR). I don't really see improvement.

I am going to write June 2019 test. Should I just forget about RC in the last 3 weeks of study?

Thanks.

Hi! I'm wondering if any high scorers have any tips for me during this final stretch of studying to sit on June 3. I've always felt fairly comfortable with RC in general (not that it's easy, but it doesn't freak me out), and I've gotten to (-1) or (-2) on each passage. The problem is when the 5-minute warning comes, I've only just begun the final passage. I never feel like I'm getting bogged down or struggling during the first three. I feel like I'm doing fine, kicking butt, but clearly I'm NOT because in order to finish the final passage I'd have to give myself 5 extra minutes, which of course, will never be an option during the real test. I know the wisdom claims that timing is never the real issue - that it's just a function of not being at the right level of understanding. OK, fine. So what should I do over these next few weeks? Take a ton of timed RC sections and BR them? Take some timed RC sections where I only complete 3 passages and strive for (-0)? Take some untimed RC sections? Please advise!! Thanks in advance :)

I’m going back to untimed RC drill, and am wondering if I should follow CC or just do sections.

Either way I’ll do four passages, but I haven’t done any problem sets.

So far I’ve drilled by section after CC, and am done with RC from PT1-11.

What’s the criteria for the RC problem sets? Is there a benefit to doing CC problem sets?

Hi everyone! I’m retaking the LSAT and reading comp is by far my hardest section to improve on. I used the 7 sage curriculum and in the process developed my own strategy. I wanted to share to see if it’s helpful or if I’m doing this all wrong.

I basically read each paragraph and underline the main idea in each paragraph before moving to the next. At the end I do a quick scan of all the underlined main ideas.

I find it’s helpful to do this in order to track the general thread in the passage and I can do the low resolution summaries in my head.

Is this wasting time and I should eventually do it in my head?

#help

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I don't know if I'm just getting worse at the LR timed sections or if the LR sections have changed, so this is normal. I was scoring -1 to -4 in the 30s.

Test 40: -6; BR:-2 and -9; BR -3

Test 43: -6; BR:-2 and -4; BR -2

Test 44: -10; BR:-3 and -6; BR -4

Test 45: -10; BR: -6 and -8; BR -1

Test 46: -8; BR -2 and -9 with BR -3

What is going on? From scoring -5 or less consistently to dropping to -10. Ugh I am so upset.

hi guys! so i'm a rising senior at boston university (gpa: 3.33) and i had done some review on here since last summer, but i officially started studying properly the beginning of this week to sit the september test. i have the ultimate+ and i'm trying to get through the core curriculum so i can get as much practice and PTs as i can to be ready by then. i know JY and all of you say that take the lsat when you're ready and not plan around an lsat date, but i have 4 months of absolutely nothing to do but to study so i was hoping i'd be ready by september. i'm thinking of doing 25 hours a week would be good (around 5 hours a day, 6 times per week), and i'm hoping to be done with the CC by the end of june (the CC is extremely long so i have no idea how long it would take me to finish and it's really worrying me), and i'd have around 2.5 months to do PTs. do you guys think that would be doable? i did extremely bad on the diagnostic (137) so i am extremely discouraged, but i am very motivated. i want to get to 170 at some point. i know some of you are gonna say that it's a reach and that i can't improve by that much, but i was not at the best mental state when i took the diagnostic so i don't think it's what i would have scored at my best potential. what way do you guys suggest i study or split my time to reach my goal? september lsat is non-negotiable because i'm applying in the fall and i'm doing ED to northwestern. i reckon that 4 months of only LSAT studying should suffice, no? i don't work or anything this summer. any advice or encouragement would be greatly appreciated! i'm really anxious about the whole thing, like i'm getting a daily anxiety attack thinking about studying and finishing on time reaching my goal. i know this is extremely lengthy so i apologize, i just needed to rant and get this off my chest, and if you made it this far into the post i thank you and any words of wisdom from you would go a long way. thanks guys!

Hey I plan on taking the LSAT in September. If anyone is interested in setting up a study group inbox me. I live in Brooklyn, but work in the city. We can meet in person Thursdays or Sundays or we can Skype or video chat any day during the evening.

Hey 7Sagers,

We're posting on behalf of a 7Sager. They would like to get advice from you!

LSAT PT 31

JUNE 2000

section 3 Question 14

Main Point

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-31-section-3-question-14/

PLEASE HELP. I am confused about why the conclusion is what it is. When I saw the word "since" I knew it was going to introduce a premise. Then I saw the word "because" and thought it introduced another premise. so I thought the main conclusion was the sentence about "when relatives of the patient who die simply because they were given the less expensive medicine" because the last sentence does say "must ALSO be weighed..." assuming there is extra information being included. But then again as I am typing this I think I was just think "too deep" about it because as I am reviewing the passage it does a lot simpler. However, I didn't think it was the conclusion when the previous question had the sentence "what must ALSO be taken into account..." was considered the premise and not the conclusion. which can be found in the same PT but in section 2 Question. Does all this make sense?

How can I differentiate between the premise and conclusion if it has the world ALSO?

Anyone know similar games?

Hi:

Hope everyone’s studies are going well. I’m hitting a low in confidence and motivation. I was drilling sections (PT 30s and 50s) for a good two months and felt like I was starting to understand LR a little better. I wasn’t scoring crazy high in the sections, however, it was considerably higher than what I started with. (-3/5 at my best) I’ve been redoing the questions I did wrong in addition to reviewing them with JY’s video explanations. I usually get over 20 correct when I do BR. Timing has always been an issue for me.

However, in the last week, I’ve moved onto the newest PTs: PT 70s and 80s (skipping around) and I’ve noticed a huge plunge in my LR and even RC sections (which were never that low). My LG is fine which at least I can hold on to that...

My LSAT is June 3. I’m trying not to succumb to pressure and stress but it’s very disheartening to see my progress dip so low a month before the exam.

Does anyone have any LR studying tips? I have roughly four weeks left until my exam. I was thinking of drilling question types I’m weak on.

All as any input is welcome, thank you and good luck everyone!

-N

Hey all,

Can someone point me in the direction of the lesson that explains the process by which he came to the conclusion he found at around 8:40 of this instruction video?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-41-section-2-game-3/

I've gone through his conditional logic tutorials but I haven't been able to find the lesson where he explains either/or rules in relation to in/out games. Why is it that at least one of L or M must be assigned to the "in" group in this sub-group, while the other is free to float?

Thanks!