Hi everyone,

To all those preparing to take the LSAT in a couple days, GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!! I'm hoping this test doesn't cause too many anxiety attacks and brings relief. I'm taking it and although I'm super nervous - I'm planning to go in calm and to just do the best I can. Reading a lot of the discussions on here have calmed my nerves. So thank you all for that.

I had some questions if anyone can help clarify that would be great:

Thank you so much 7Sage community!!!

I'm scheduled for Saturday's test at MSU and starting to get nervous they will cancel it due to upcoming weather! Supposed to get 8 inches of snow tomorrow then 2 Saturday. Schools are already closing here. Will they schedule a new test date in the very near future? Totally relaxed and in a good state of mind for the test and so ready for it, but uneasy over the weather : (

This was probably answered in another thread that I can't find but I looked yesterday on LSAC and it was not there. Does anyone have an idea when LSAC will adjust the registration lineup?

I don't entirely understand why the answer is B and not E.

I think E probably is not the answer, in hindsight, because it is not "one writer's version of the theory" but at the same time the passage does say things like "She (Gilman) argued."

I have trouble with the "intellectual controversy" part of answer choice B, it didn't seem like a controversy to me, just an interpretation.

Can anyone explain?

Thx

To all of you who are masters of SA's: do you diagram them on the actual exam? I feel that if I don't then, I won't get them correct. Should I diagram them on the exam, or do I just need more practice diagramming them in general

Hi everyone,

I'm currently registered to take the February 2018 LSAT but I'm incredibly worried that I have not prepared well enough! I took a majority of December off (truthfully, I took the whole month off) as I was visiting my family back home. I studied very hard for the whole month of January but I only just feel like the material is 'clicking'. My plan now is to take the test (to at least experience what it is like in true conditions) and then see how I feel afterwards (in the 6 days after) and potentially cancel the score (most likely cancel)... I'm worried, however, that schools will react negatively to a cancelled score? I will be applying to Canadian schools. I'm hoping to take the test once more in either the June/July sitting...

Thanks in advance for your opinions!! I appreciate it.

I understand why the other answer choices are wrong.

But I have a problem with confirming that answer choice E is correct.

E: The only offer that Sal made to Veronica was not a legitimate one. Thus, regardless of whether Sal made the offer in jest, there is no valid contract between them.

My problem with E is the open possibility that Veronica made an offer to Sal. If that's the case, even though the offer Sal made to Veronica is invalid, you can't be certain that there is no valid contract between them, because an offer made by Veronica to Sal would still be a contract between them.

Am I supposed to ignore this possibility because this is a "most" helps to justify question? Can anyone help me out here?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-80-section-4-question-24/

Hey all,

Another RC topic here. I've only been drilling from early PT's, PT 35 being the latest. I've only taken full timed PTs from the 30s and 40s. I've heard that RC becomes more challenging, LG becomes a bit more straightforward, and LR stays about the same? For all y'all who've taken a more extensive number of PT's, would you agree with this?

Just wondering if I should move my focus to more recent tests.

Also I sometimes procrastinate by beginning new discussions.

Thanks !

I would love to do a joint degree program. Specifically I'd like to either obtain a J.D. M.P.P or J.D. PhD in government. What sucks is that I'll have to study for my GRE right after I take my LSAT (crap :() But anyway I wanted to see if anyone is thinking on a similar line? Is anyone else interested in joint degree programs? If so where? Also do you think it would aid in my wanting to delve into either International Relations or NGO or Immigration work (I wish there was a job that encompassed all three haha. I'm indecisive)? Are these joint degree programs a waste of time/money? Any and all thoughts welcome.

Based on the correct answer to an RC question I just saw I'm wondering how to distinguish this from trap answers...

The question asks for the purpose of an introductory quote to a passage, to which the correct answer reads "[to] suggest that music that is at first seen as alienating need not seem alienating later"

The issue I'm having with this is that reading comprehension questions sometimes contain trap answers that go "beyond" the message of the passage, misconstruing or overextending the message beyond what the author intended.

This looked like one of those typical trap answers. Nowhere in the passage does the author suggest the work of either composer was ever considered alienating. Disturbing, shrill, incoherent, and dissonant were all used to describe the works of the two composers, none of these or other descriptive elements in the passage seem to equate to the concept of alienation in music.

In ambiguous cases like this, how do we distinguish a right answer from to a trap answer that is drawing a false equivalency or overextending the author's prose?

I'm rounding off my prep before this Saturday's LSAT, it would be great if someone could lend some guidance before then

Thanks in advance!

I find that in RC (my worst section), I get a heinous amount of answers incorrect because I am overthinking and trying to absorb every single detail of the passage into my mind rather than just reading for the overall structure, argument, (aka what the questions are asking) etc. and end up losing myself. Does anyone else have a problem with this? And if so, how did you combat It? Did you just try to keep on reminding yourself to zoom out? Cause that's what I do but It definitely takes getting used to since I've been reading the same way for like 20 years now....

Also, I was wondering if you guys ever get distracted whilst studying? Haha so I don't feel alone. What distracts you? Sometimes I read magazine articles or take my phone off airplane mode and respond to texts. Sometimes I check Twitter. Sometimes I try to do some online shopping/browsing.

I feel like I made a horrible mistake by taking PT82 prior to sitting this Saturday. I did the test as quick as I could, pretty nonchalantly. I did horrible. I went -9 on each LR, -3 on LG, and -8 on RC. I haven't gone -9 on an LR section in a long time, let alone 2 sections in a row on the same test. My goal is a 165, I did a 158 on the last PT before the real thing. I'm afraid of burn out prior to Saturday but Im also afraid that if I take Wed, Thurs, & Friday off I may not be warmed up enough for Saturday morning. Any thoughts? I normally go -3/4 on LR, and -1/3 on LG.

I am taking the exam this Saturday and I am feeling a bit anxious. What are some do's and don'ts the week leading to the exam? How would you recommend studying and how much to study? I am a slow starter (I need to warm up before a test) so I feel like I need to keep doing drills to keep my pace. However, I don't want to overwork myself. Any advice/suggestions is greatly appreciated!

Hello,

Can someone help explain to me why A is correct and not E? From my perspective, the passage never says that certain qualities (those of men) are detrimental, just that they can no longer be the society's primary qualities and that women need to have an equal role in society from here on out. That perspective lead me to answer E, since if women are inevitably going to become more and more essential in society, than those qualities that they possess will be too.

I'm not sure between C and E...

I think we can know both of them from the last sentence, because it says "depend". Depend on means correlation right?

Also, I thought the stimulus itself have self-contradiction.

It says "live in neighbourhoods of people from their same economic class" but then it says "people's satisfaction with their incomes depends largely on how favorably their incomes compare with those of their neighbors."

Doesn't it contradict?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-74-section-1-question-22

Hey!

Can someone help me out with this (Question 1: Quiz on Drawing Valid Conclusions with Intersection Statements 3 w/Answers)

W → /R

W −m→ T

Y → /T

/W → Q

How come there is no relationship between /Q & /Y and between T & /Q? Whats the reasoning? I think it has something to do with the most statement but I would appreciate if someone took the time to explain it.

(Question 2: Quiz on Drawing Valid Conclusions with Intersection Statements 3 w/Answers)

/B → /D

F ←s→ D

/O → /F

I → F

I thought there would be a SOME relationship between D and I - I don't understand why there isn't.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to read my post.

Does anyone have any advice about one last PT? I'm thinking of taking one or two more before the February 10 LSAT. However, part of me is afraid that I'll score badly on my last PT---despite doing fairly well on my others---and that it'll totally demoralize or shake my up for the real thing. At the same time, I know that if I score well, it'll send me into the Feb LSAT feeling confident and in the right mindset.

Anyone else had this problem/fear before their test? Please advise!

(Also, much thanks to this community---despite my worries, I feel WAY more confident than I would be otherwise a week out because of all of you!)

Hey Guys!

Anybody have good idea for RC supplements? Sometimes I'll have a few minutes to study and I don't want to kill a section. I use them all for full length tests. I'd like to target RC directly without taking the whole test. Any supplement ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thx!

Here is my dilemma...

I have been studying for the LSAT for about 3 months now. I do really well on RC so the majority of my study time is focused on other areas. I have spent significantly more time on LR and very little time, comparatively, on LG, yet when I take timed sections I score virtually identical in points on all three sections?

Has this happened to anyone else, and what am I missing here?

Hello,

Could someone explain to me why B is right over A? I chose B, but I still don't understand why it's right compared to A.

Hi all,

well, this question has been asked a million times, but I will ask it again...apologies.

My goal is to get 165 +.

Long story short I've been studying for almost a year now. Started Last March, more or less. My studying has been....a learning process. I started out quite erratically - I figured "oh, I have so much time!" and didn't put in that many hours (I also work full-time). I didn't buy a class or anything.

After 3 months or so of doing a few hours a week with some old power score books that a friend gave me, I realized that it would be better to get a class. So I got the 7sage course (the most basic one). I worked my way through about 2/3 of the lessons. During this time, I was occasionally doing practice sets, but I was mostly focused on logic games but I would do one game at a time. I kind of jumped around and did not use the foolproof method. Please don't ask me why. I think I just wanted to rush through everything because I underestimated how difficult the LSAT is.

In August I started to panic because I wanted to take the September LSAT, and I thought "oh my god I need to start doing full practice tests!" I took a few. This revealed that my score was still basically at the point where my diagnostic was (156).

I decided to postpone the September exam until December. I finally understood that score had not changed since my diagnostic because I didn't apply myself enough and didn't take enough time to learn the fundamentals.

I started learning the fundamentals. December arrived and I had done a few more practice tests- maybe 3/4 ( I only have time to do one a week) but my PT score had only climbed from a 156 to a 162.

I decided to postpone again.

Because I felt ridiculous, I did register for the February test. My mother, and my colleagues (I work at a law firm), were all saying that I should just take it. I figured that I absolutely needed to do the Feb 2018 exam because I had put it off so many times.

Fast-forward to now, and my highest PT score has risen from a 162 to a 165. I have something like 2 weeks but I'm working the whole time (I can't get days off). And I'm freaking out.

I want to score a 165 or higher. So...I'm almost there. It feels kind of ridiculous to put it off AGAIN... I'm close, so maybe, if I'm truly lucky, I will get that 165. But I think that that is not super likely. I assume my score will actually go down on test day, so it's probable that I'll get a 160, maybe lower (I score more consistently at 163 than 165).

If I postpone I will have time to do more than the 10 total practice tests I've done. And my logic games (this is my worst section) are finally getting better since I've started with the fool-proof method. But I'm still getting 8-10 wrong consistently. I can't finish all 4 games, EVER. Maybe this will improve.

This said, if I put it off, I have to deal with the stress of this dang test hanging over me for 6 more months - I fear that I've built this up so much that I'm just psyching myself out and looking for excuses to delay taking it. I fear that this psychological stress will get worse if I wait longer. I can always just take it in February (I've already paid) and take it again in June.

It is also possible that I've hit a plateau. I started with a pretty good diagnostic, and after a year I've only gone up by 9 points (and I only got a 165 once). My logical reasoning has completely stagnated - I always get 3-4 wrong. My reading comprehension has improved, and my logic games are getting there, but I'm ASTOUNDINGLY bad at them so I fear I actually will never do better than I'm doing now.

So. Do I put it off, given the possibility that another 6 months won't help much, and will just end up putting more pressure on me since I've delayed again?

Or do I just take it, but take it knowing that I am extremely unlikely to get the score I want - basically guaranteeing that I will have to retake?

Sorry for the wall of text.

When a question offers no additional premises, is the question referring to the prior question/game board?

-"Which one of the following, if established, could most logically serve as the principle appealed to in the argument countering the critics’ claim?" (by PT 9-4-11)

Does anyone know if this stem is indicating an asssumption question or a principle question?

Thank you !!

Hey guys,

I have improved drastically on LR! And honestly, it feels so good! Thank you to 7SAGE and @akistotle who has helped me tremendously!

Nonetheless, I took PT 78 yesterday and scored 9/25 on the first LR section and 22/26 on the second one.

I honestly don't understand how this could have happened.

22/26 has been my best LR section yet, I usually score around 18/19. BUT A 9? I have not scored that low on a LR section since my diagnostic to be honest.

Is this just an outlier? The section felt hard like any other LR section to me but even after doing BR and scoring it... I scored fairly low.

Help please... freaking out right now since the LSAT is only days away.

Hi everyone,

So I was working on an RC passage today and after reading it once, I got that frustrating feeling like I needed to read the whole thing again. Before I did though, I thought to myself "Why do I spend time underlining and things that may or may not be important when I get to the questions?". When I do get to the questions, I usually end up going back to the passage anyway because it isn't until after I read the questions that I truly know what the test writer wants from me. So would it be better just to read the questions first? With RC you have to be able to cut through superfluous info, but a lot of time I am unable to distinguish between necessary and unnecessary info until I read the questions and know what I am supposed to be looking for.