When answering these types of questions, should we pay attention to the content or substance of the answers, or only to the form?

" Most people who shop for groceries no more than 3 times a month buy prepared frozen dinners regularly. In Hallstown, most people shop for groceries no more than 3 times a month. Therefore, in Hallstown most people buy prepared frozen dinners regularly".

Why is this an invalid argument?

LR Question Type drilling+BR vs. Timed Section+BR

Hello 7sagers!

I have worked through the fundamentals of CC (LR) and I now plan to drill LR questions.

I'm weighing between two options (which can be complementary)

A ) Drill LR question types +BR

B ) Do timed LR section +BR

Questions

Any advice will be much appreciated.

Thank you!

#thepain-is-real

So I don't have a car. I wanted to Uber to the test site, but the LSAC has a strict no phones allowed in the testing center policy. I could call a cab, but then I would kinda just be stranded at the testing site after.

What are you all doing?

LG used to be my perfect section. But now that I'm getting to the late 60s of PTs, I'm finding myself missing multiple LG questions.

I'm freaking out right now because I missed -5 on PrepTest 68's LG, and -3 on PrepTest 67's LG. Before, I've consistently been doing -0 or at worst -1. Were these tests just anomalies??? Or are these indicative of future tests to come?

How have you all approached the more modern games differently than those in the early 60s/50s/40s?

Hey Sagers,

This is a question for those of you who have been doing LG for a while. I'm trying to perfect my timing for LG through slight method and strategy changes.

Was hoping to just get some insight on different ways people approach "naked" questions on the LG section. Most notably "must be true", "could be true", etc. that leave a lot of open-ended options. I have a few random strategies I employ for these questions but no systematic approach. I always do all the "if" questions first so I can write out my gameboards and use those to potentially answer naked questions after, and that is helpful. But I also feel there are other strategies I could be employing for the naked questions. I often can get stuck on them because I feel overwhelmed and end up wasting a few precious moments.

I have come to realize that when I feel stuck, best thing is to just start brute forcing through, which is sometimes all you can do, but just wondering if people had other strategies for naked questions? This is just the last leg for me trying to make subtle shifts in strategy so that I can get the LG section in time and hopefully leave myself with a little extra time to do those horrible substitute condition questions :)

I feel confident in my ability to do LG and nearly always score perfect under untimed conditions, but still struggling to get them done in time under timed conditions without rushing at the end.

Thanks for any tips on naked questions if you have them!

Hey All,

Logically, what does "almost all" translate to? It seems that it should be more restrictive than "most", but I'm not completely certain.

Currently looking at PT79.S1.Q18 for anyone who wants context.

Thanks.

So I just caught myself today having completely forgot how to approach MSS questions. I forgot they are asking for a conclusion. It just flew out of my mind. Over the last 5 tests I've missed roughly 7 of these questions because of this. I didn't have any plan of attack and just...did them. I don't know how, when, or why this happened but it is a HUGE wake up call. I'm going back through the basics of each question type in the CC right now. How does something like that just happen? They went from being a type of problem I never miss to leaving my mind completely....

Am I really that lazy?!

I am doing great on the other sections, but RC is killing my score. I am constantly missing 15+/- on RC.

I have tried underlining, making short summaries/ LSAT Trainer method... and nothing seems to be working.

What strategies do you use? I'm just not getting it.

I find myself spending hours researching schools and looking at their median LSATs and class profiles, creating 100 scenarios in my head of how likely i'll be admitted if I improve by x point. and of course I watch every video posted on every school's YouTube channel. I know it's unproductive and I'm just procrastinating studying. :( anyone else does this?

Hi all,

I purchased the casio watch recommended here that has the top dial to turn and from my understand is OK for the new LSAT rule.

Do you think Proctors will know that it is acceptable? What are some thoughts on what you will do if they make a fuss?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005JVP0FU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm hoping that some RC session host by Sages would come before Sept LSAT. After attending @danielznelson RC session, I feel more confident in RC.

Hello fellow sagers,

I'm looking for advice from people who have been on the same boat and who have ideally gotten out of it successfully by doing (x).

I am consistently scoring +70-72 which is anywhere from 157-159. I am aiming to break 160 but I know on test day there's a high possibility to miss a few more points vs during PT's at home... Thus, I want to be consistently earning 80 points per practice test.

I have been BR'ing very intensely and the only thing I seem to be consistent in is LG's. For some tests my RC is very low (-12) while the other sections make up for it, in other tests, I get -3 on one LR section and -11 on another LR. I attribute the discrepancies in LR to unfamiliar stimulus vs the cookie cutter ones I get correct and have seen time and time again. My RC usually never exceeds (-7) therefore, I know this is something I should be doing more timed sections in.

I am reaching out for advice because I don't really know how to best utilize the last couple weeks before test day. Maybe investing in a private tutor would help? If any of you have seen one or have a good method of how to go about what I've discussed, I'd really appreciate any feedback!

Thank you,

Stephanie

Hey all! I find that whenever I do RC (and sometimes even during LR) I feel panicky and rushed which causes me to not absorb what I'm reading properly. This only happens to me on timed PTs as during BR or when I'm not under time constraints I can read the passages fine and get the questions right. Also this doesn't happen to me during LG as I feel much calmer during that section haha. Does this happen to anyone else? Or does anyone have any tips on how to stop this and calm down when reading?

Thanks everyone :)

Just took this PT and got wrecked... like... 13 points lower than how I did on PT 72. My last 4 or 5 PTs have all fallen within a 5 point spread, but this one pretty much matches my initial starting point with no studying :O :(

Did anybody else find this one particularly hard? I recognized I was struggling with LG as it was happening but I also got really low scores on LR, which are usually my most consistent sections. Any insights? HALP.

So some of you may have seen a discussion I posted about a week ago saying, "I'm never going to get this so what's our worst case scenario lbr." I got some encouragement from our 7sage community and also my husband and friends - took a day off, and got back to it! The update is I just drilled 5 assorted games in 33 minutes and went -3, but -0 in BR. Considering last week I went -13 on two games in 35 minutes, that is a MAJOR improvement. How did I do it? I allowed myself to go slowly (I know, whattttttt), as slowly as I needed to. I watched the videos and did about 4 or 5 games PER day minimum, all different. I wouldn't say I had an epiphany one day, I'd equate it to more of a slow adjustment to a cold swimming pool. But the point is, it can be done. Diligence, patience, and being kind to yourself - these are so important. I used the test question bank as well as some prep test sections and drilled until one day I used a stopwatch and lo and behold I was clocking in less than 7 minutes per game. You can do it! You will do it! Actually, you HAVE to do it! So don't get discouraged, hold your head high, and you'll live to infer another day. (3 (3(/p)

I really need a strategy that works in terms of doing logic games. I did exceptionally well on logic games a year ago, however I basically have plummeted and now need to re-learn everything since I didn't end up writing the LSAT due to personal reasons.

Is there a strategy people have found that works for them?

So far this is what I have been doing in terms of the Fool-proof method:

Do a timed game.

BR.

Watch video explanation.

Do timed game again.

Repeat steps 2-3 if needed.

Do the same game again the next day and once again a week after to see if I still got it.

I found this shortened method in a previous discussion post, but can't seem to find the link.

I was just wondering how many games I should do a day, since I am still doing the CC so I can't focus entirely on logic games right now but still want to keep the strategies fresh since I have already completed the Powerscore LG Bible workbook and it helped a lot!!!

Totally recommend it to anyone who is struggling with LG.

Can someone break this one down for me?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-48-section-1-question-16/

Hello fellow 7sagers!

I have been just finished some of the problem sets for Weakening questions and have done 5 problem sets so far. I have gotten them all correct so far except for a total of three questions wrong.

I also did fairly well on the Most Strongly Supported questions, however again, I only completed up to problem set 8.

I was just wondering if the problem sets get harder as you go on? Since I have been getting the first couple problem sets correct so far, I feel like I can go on to the next question type but I don't want to do this if I have only exposed myself to the 'easier' problem sets. I plan on saving the rest of the problem sets to as I go on with the Core curriculum just so I can refresh my memory and keep the strategy for each question type "fresh."

Is this a good strategy so far?

Hello!

Do you guys think that the LSAT for September will be similar to Preptest 81?! Or preptest 80? Or is it too hard to tell?

Hello all!

Unfortunately I am really struggling with RC and I am wondering if anyone who also struggles (or did) has seen improvements in their RC scores by only doing 3 of the passages, so spending more time on those one's and then bubbling in random answer's for the 4th passage? Or if this didn't work for people or if you haven't tried it is there any other tips or things you changed while reading or answering the questions that made your RC scores increase?

Thanks so much everyone!!

Hi all,

I find myself on these forums everyday because everyone is so helpful :). I've recently experienced a 7 point jump from my diagnostic! Which I am so keenly happy about. Mainly, this is because I'm doing well in RC and LG (avg -5 and -2 respectively).

But where I'm really struggling with is LR! When I first started (before learning methods and question types), I would get 5-8 wrong. Now I consistently get 10-11 wrong! It's really disheartening. I've read the Powerscore LRB once through, and I'm thinking about going over it again. Does anyone have some good advice on how to improve LR? Anything helps, considering I'm getting 56% on each section! Alot of people mention drilling too. Any advice on how to drill well?

I should also mention I can never finish a full section in 35 minutes. The highest I go is question 23, and even that is a struggle. The first 10 questions, I can normally complete within 10 minutes. But after that, it slows down alot. By the time I'm at question 15, 20 minutes have passed.

Thoughts?

Hi all--

I took the June LSAT and for the 6 practice tests leading up to it I started scoring between 0-2 wrong on every game section, almost regardless of difficulty. I only got 1 wrong on the games section of the actual test.

I need to retake the test in September. This 0-2 streak endured for the first 6-8 prep tests, but about a week ago my games scores started slipping significantlyI can't seem to shake the issues I seem to have picked up with games and it's pretty significantly affecting my ability to score above a 166. I think I've chosen Some hard tests to practice with (in order to make sure my games skills can endure through hard games) but today I took a preptest with a games section that wasn't particularly difficult on its face, and I still got 4 wrong.

I've tried slowing down, I'm watching all of 7Sage explanations of anything I miss (and before I do, I go back and try to complete the game myself without time constraints or help). Do you have any advice?

The tests I've done recently are:

52 (4 wrong on games)

62 (5 wrong on games)

71 (9 wrong on games)

70 (5 wrong on games)

23 (7 wrong on games)

64 (3 wrong on games)

I have been studying for the LSAT and I was doing great on the logic games however I am still practicing and have not taken timed exams of the entire PT. I would like to know your opinions on repeating PTs not necessarily limited to logic games but rather the other sections as well.