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Last comment tuesday, oct 04 2016

Identify conclusion

Which of the following most logically completes the passage?

Electronic communications such as email, text messages, chats, and posts on the "walls" of social media sites are considered by psychologists to be "impersonal" forms of communication, meaning that the sender of the communication is distant from the receiver of the communication. This separation often results in misinterpretation by the recipient. Since such communications are also primarily one-way interactions, there is no chance for the sender of the communication to realize and correct the misinterpretation. Electronic communications should therefore be ____________.

Used only when face-to-face communications are not possible.

Written in straightforward language that is not liable to various different interpretations.

Used in situations where personal communications might be embarrassing.

Forbidden in professional occupations, such as medicine and law.

Used as frequently as possible, due to the convenience of avoiding lengthy conversations.

I fell for the trap, choosing A. Any thoughts how to eliminate A.

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Hello All,

I am one those people that when in a group chat, I just let everyone talk and occasionally respond with a "yes" or "no." Similarly, I have been doing that here. I've been keeping up with several discussions and the responses, but never post.

However, I think it's time to ask for help. Let me tell you about my dilemma--- started studying for the September 2016 LSAT back in June using the LSAT Trainer and several PT's. While I was able to jump a couple of points from my original score, I am NOT where I should/can be. My last PT was 148 (9/5), and that's when I decided to postpone my exam until December. Since 9/5, I have been drilling LR and most recently on LGs. I purchased the Powerscore LG bible and that's where I saw my LG score increase. It didn't increase tremendously, but something is something. Just got the Powerscore LR bible and will start on that once I feel comfortable with LGs.

I mentioned that I used the LSAT trainer at first, and I will have to say that it did not work for me.

I work a full time job (9-6) Mon-Fri, so I study everyday during the week ~3hours. On the weekends, I spend 4-5 hours studying--drilling LR and LG. Something did not go well the first time around in my studying routine so, I need to make a change and do it FAST. I would greatly appreciate it if someone shed some light on my situation that help me increase my score.

Thank you so much in advance!!

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Last comment saturday, oct 01 2016

Max Time for Games

Hi I was wondering if there was a list that shows for each game how long you should spend on it? JY tells you at times during the core curriculum the max amount of time for a 160/170 score and I was hoping there was a list for all the games so I can gain a solid foundation for when I get to a game during the actual test around how long I should spend on it.

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Last comment saturday, oct 01 2016

Conditional Reasoning

This might be something really basic to be discussing at this time for someone looking to sit for the LSATs in December, but I gotta ask

How would you guys diagram this conditional sentence: "Unless they find an eye-witness and put the defendant on the stand, they will lose the case."

Please explain. Thanks.

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Last comment thursday, sep 29 2016

December 2016 BR Group

Hey guys,

I just signed up with 7Sage a few weeks ago and am currently going through the curriculum (should be on track to finish early August). Surfing through past BR group discussions, it seems like a good idea to get an early start on organizing a BR group. I'm aiming to take the LSAT in December. Anyone else interested in getting the ball rolling on a December 2016 BR group?

Best,

Michael

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Last comment thursday, sep 29 2016

Nerves

I left out of the testing center feeling good about the exam. Now I'm second guessing my performance. I know it's too late now. But I think I feel into the E trap answer that I was warned about. Than again I'm not sure. 10/20 huh? Im sure to lose a few pounds.

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Last comment thursday, sep 29 2016

Flaw Questions

Does anybody know of LR questions that are grouped together by the type of flaw? A group of questions that all contain correlation/causation flaws, circular reasoning, etc. for drilling and BR. I'm trying to get more familiar with the way the flaws are worded in AC. On the harder flaw questions I don't always recognize the flaw or I'm not interpreting the answer choices to be that flaw. The latter is more often. When I prephrase I have the correct flaw but sometimes the answer choices are just worded crazy and I have no clue what they're saying. Also, I noticed someone on a forum indicating the flaw for the wrong answer choices. Anyone do this during the timed PT, or do you do it just during BR? When eliminating AC my thought process is normally, "no, the author doesn't do this," and I just move on rather than indicating what flaw that AC is describing.

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Last comment thursday, sep 29 2016

Non-LSAC logic game practice

I'm still drying my tears after writing last weekend wahhhh. My question moving forward is regarding non prep test logic games and if anyone knows of any good resources? I have done every single prep test logic game section repeatedly and consistently score -1 to -0 with plenty of extra time, however the computer virus game as well as game 4 from the experimental section really messed me up. I think it would be helpful to practice on new "fake" games in order to prevent such a terrible shock to my system next time (even though now all I do is think about all the ways I could have attacked those stupid games).

Thanks!

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Hey all,

So yea I'm in this predicament. I've spent a few days in torturous introspection to no avail so lets see what you folks think. I took the test under awful physical conditions to say the least; coughing, sneezing, migraine, light headedness just to name a few of my symptoms (that I'm still dealing with). Had to get up a few times mid section to go spit and blow my nose.....I digress.

I ran out of time on every section (around 5-7 missed in each I'd say) and only got through 2 and a half LG. Oddly enough, I felt pretty confident on almost every question I did answer. Including LG. Mid 160s was my goal but I am all but certain I fell short. Before falling ill, I conceded that I'd retake in December if I came out unconfident. Now I'm faced with the decision of whether or not to cancel. Thoughts?

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I've never been a good note taker or for that matter known what to do with a highlighter, so I'm reaching out to you guys/gals to see if those of you better at this than I am could lend a hand? Sharing any techniques, or methods is more than welcome. In other words, I'd like to hear your personal style of doing things (i.e. color coordinating, brackets, etc.) in hopes that I could incorporate it into my own mode of attacking reading comprehension. Thanks everyone!

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Last comment wednesday, sep 28 2016

AHH! Stupid!

Yesterday at the test, my seat was at the first row, which was very close to the invigilator's desk. As the test started, they kept whispering about probably test staff, and flicking over the papers so loud. This was so disturbing and distracting for me, but no one seemed to be bothered by this, so I thought it wouldn't be much problem and just covered my ear and do the questions. I can't believe I didn't ask them to stop or request a change of seat!!! God, I'm so stupid! What was I thinking?!! Those noises ruined my test.. Ahh! I'm so stupid I wanna kill myself! Guys plz don't make the same mistake I made.

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Last comment wednesday, sep 28 2016

To cancel or not?

Hey guys,

So I took the test today and I totally messed up the logic games section --- I ended up guessing on the last five questions. I think I did okay everywhere else, I may have guessed on a few reading comp. questions and one logical reasoning, but not a disaster like the logical reasoning. I was really hoping for at least a 165 to get into my top choice school... should I cancel my score?

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I know for a fact I am not the only one with the LSAT perpetually on the mind. I probably am not the only one obsessively contemplating when Gray Day is coming. Any Guesses??

I am PRAYING it is not October 20th, considering that is my wife's birthday...

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If anyone saw my posts under BR group PT77, I really tanked that test. But, I learned a lot because I took it without mentally preparing for it when I sat down and more importantly I rushed thru it with conditions similar to being at a SEC football tailgate party in my own home. That day, I had the proctor on and the minute pencils were down - I reset my watch and fast forwarded the proctor to already start the next section. Stupid huh?? Well not so much as it turns out after today.

My experience is not even a blip of Nightmare Test Issues:)

This is a Head's Up reminder that all test sites are different and to PT in all types of conditions!

- We had to stand outside a door until 8:30 am and then were told to use the 1900 era Dairy Queen next door if we had to go to the bathroom before the test started and make sure we were back in line before everyone was checked in when they would close the door. It was really funny to watch everyone crowd around to try to be first in line to go sit at a desk to only sit and wait for everyone else.

- Strict - Our water/beverage containers had to be zipped in the bag before they were inspected. It took almost an hour to check in 14 people...

- We were not allowed to get anything out of our bags or put anything on our desks until everyone was checked in. Then we were allowed to get our pencils, erasers and Kleenex.

- Then we were allowed to get out ONE watch and no one was allowed to wear it on their wrist - it had to be on the table.

- When proctor started reading the initial directions, someone's bag fell over and landed outside the square area under her chair. We had to stop until every bag was completely under each chair.

- I didn't realize until the 5 minute mark was called in the 1st section that the timing assistant would start the electronic timer when the proctor "First Started Reading the Instructions" not when it says you may start Now. We lost almost a minute on every section. Ever heard of a Southern drawl being spoken fast?

- In between the sections, from the time you heard pencils down to when the timer would start was under 15-20 seconds in the 1st half and less than that in the 2nd half.

- 3 proctors for 14 people with a wall of mirrors - visually disturbing but oh well. However, the proctors would walk by each desk, stand over you watching you as you took the test, turn their heads to look you in the eye, take another look at your ID and then look back at you. They continued this round-robin of inspection throughout the test. I just ignored them after the first time but it was very unsettling.

- Our break was on a strict timer in the test room with thankfully a bathroom and only a few people. When the break ended, we began section 4 in under a minute.

- *** This is what really got me - when the proctor started the directions - she told us to "pull out the answer sheet" that we had placed marking the end of Section 3 and the beginning of Section 4 for the break. Next thing we knew the timer was on and we were flipping thru our test books to find section 4 with all 3 proctors hovering over us to make sure we didn't look ahead to Section 5.

- Between Section 4&5 I couldn't even reset a 180 watch before we started. There was a clock but it was across the room and no way to see what time it was when we started. Section 4 was my hardest LR and I really just wanted to catch a breath. Stupid me to not take the precious seconds to go ahead and reset it but I was admittedly flustered.

So were the proctors wrong? No... It was up to me to be prepared for anything and this was nothing in the grand scheme of Test Center debacles.

I was beating myself up on PT77 and was almost so discouraged that I thought long and hard about withdrawing. But I kept at it and regained enough confidence to take it today. Did I crush it - No, not so much. Did I crash and burn - Not as far as I can tell. Did I panic yes, but I was able to reel it in to continue the best I could.

All and all - a great experience thanks to tanking PT77 and other testing situations that helped me stay composed and focused on the reason I was sitting in that chair:)

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Monday, Sep 26 2016

Cancel?

I took the exam in Asia, so I believe its a non-disclosed exam. It's my first write and unfortunately, I completely lost track of time because of exam nerves (completely my fault, I know) and ending up having to guess the last page for both reading comprehension and logic games. Honestly, like a random guess, not even an educated guess. This sucks and I know that I shouldn't have let it get to me, but I would be lying to say it didn't affect my performance at all for my later sections. I feel like the material itself was not extremely difficult and quite similar to my practice tests, but I guess the whole "realness" of the testing conditions scared the living crap out of me so I messed up. I think this is definitely something I can work with, by setting up more realistic practice test taking conditions. The question is, I want some confirmation whether I should cancel or not. I would love some advice. The law schools I'm planning to apply to take my highest only, but I feel like because I bombed this one so hard I want kind of a somewhat "clean slate" for my next write. Hoping for the best.

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I got this question correct, but I wanted to review it because I was really confused with the answer choices.

So, it's a flaw in the reasoning. My whole thought process with the stimulus is/was that the flaw is you cannot assume that since a tax of 1% per gallon would raise one billion dollars/year at consumption rates, a tax of 50% per gallon would yield 50 billion dollars per year. Just because the tax is a certain percentage/dollars does not mean that amount would be doubled. Am I correct in thinking about the flaw this way? I took micro and macroeconomics a really long time so other than the law of supply and demand I don't really remember much for example elasticity.. I know revenue is cost-profit or is it the other way around. I'm really confused so if someone could help me out, I would be most appreciative!

My reasoning is below:

A) the data is not irrelevant, in fact, I would say it is relevant to discussing the flaw in the reasoning.

B) I was thinking about this one for a minute, but then I thought the author is not discussing current consumption figures but rather hypothetical/future consumption figures according to tax policies.

C) I chose this because I thought you cannot assume since a tax of one percent per gallon yields one billion dollars that a tax of fifty percent will yield fifty billion dollars.

D) I was considering this also, but then I couldn't pinpoint the cause and effect, all I could think of was there are two potential situations and we have no idea of the second one is really possible or not.

E) This one I was totally lost on because there is no discussion of morality, it's purely economic reasoning. I ignored this answer choice and focused on the others.

PLEASE HELP!!!!! thanks in advance!

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I'm taking off from working in order to store for the lsat. I am aiming to score a 165, the last time I took a practice test I scored 157. Logic games are my weakest sections and logical reasoning is my strongest section, im averaging 20+ right. On my last logic game test I got only nine correct. I have a learning disability known as "dysgraphia" that results in me making all sorts of typographical errors on the game unless I really really slow down and concentrate. I see myself making all sorts of careless mistakes and am going to have to work much harder than the average person to master logic games. I see myself doing silly stuff like writing a rule that something occurs on "Tuesday" and I misread it as it occurring on thursday, and my ability to use space properly on the games I find challenging. I write big and run out of room. Unfortunately, i doubt i would be accepted for any accomdations because throughout my academic career i've always been able to work through my dysgraphia and excel without much accomdations other than being able to use my labtop to take notes in class. In order to get through this, I planned on doing 30 logic games a day fool proofing previous games. Do you think this is a good method to improve?

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i would like some understanding for the strengthening/weakening question types. if an answer choice contain "some/most/many/few" or similar, should i presume that the answer choice would be more likely wrong than right? i was thinking it would lean towards being wrong because since those are not "all" or "none", they allow for outliers.

also, if the conclusion of the stimulus explicitly says "All x..." or "No y..." would "some/most/many/few/etc." answer choices lean more towards being right than wrong?

any help would be appreciated!

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Please note that the information below will change to reflect the information we get! Contribute if you can via the official September 2016 LSAT discussion (linked at the bottom of this thread) without going into too much detail. If you think something is wrong or should be added, please post in the thread and let me know.

Real Sections:

LG:

-Computer Viruses

-Park Rangers

-Teaching Assistants

-Neighborhood Deliveries

RC:

-Lacquer Artist/Architect

-Muscles/Muscle Memory/Body Building

-Select Performance/Contract Violations

-Native Americans/Woodlands/Clearing a Forest

LR:

-Caterpillars/Linoleric Acid

-ACME Bank/Corporation

-Lab Animals

-Children Breaking Windows/Responsibility

-City Changing Signs/Waste of Money

-Parents Singing to Children

-Misunderstanding the Meaning of a Word

-Chess Software

-Engineering/Physics/Chemistry

-Alzeimers

-Substance Build-up/Extinct Bear

-Taiwan/Austroasian Languages

-Electric Toll Roads

-Artists Combining Qualities

-Anti-Biotics and Penicillin

-Socioculturalist/Telephones, Television & Mass Media

-Neanderthals Smoking Meat

-Baby Monkeys Imitating Scientists

Experimental Sections:

LG:

RC:

-Multiverse/Big Bang

-Aliens

-Ancient Civilization Viewed as Unremarkable

-Operationalism

LR:

-Loggerhead Turtles

-Global Trade/Political Power

-Toddlers Learning Morality/Puppets

-Password Technology

-Plastic Floating in Ocean

-Yogurt/Being Healthy

-Healing Properties of Blue Lake/River

UNCONFIRMED:

If you can confirm that these are real / experimental, please do so by PMing me or posting in the main thread.

LG:

RC:

-Physicists and Operationalism

-Folk Psychology

LR

-Dirt Bike Sand Commercials/Advertisers

-Sand Termites/Fairy Circle

This thread is closed for discussion. Official post September LSAT discussion here:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/8820/official-september-lsat-discussion-thread

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