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Hi,

I've currently only taken 2 PT's (50, June 2007). I purchased some LSAT question bundles from cambridge lsat and drilled a bunch of LG and RC from tests 1-38. After each topic JY taught, I would spend about 2-3 hours doing drills from those packets.

I'm thinking of taking every other 50s test and then doing each 60-68 test.

Is this a good plan?

On PT 50 I screwed up hard on LR but after calming down my nerves and "retaking" the LR section I improved substantially. I have heaps to go though before I can say I am confident in my abilities to score 0 wrong (or as few wrong as possible). I did okay on the other sections but as mentioned in another post I ran out of time on the RC but got one wrong while missing two on LG because I didn't read my own inference chart properly...

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If you already have access to the full course:

http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/logic-games-habits-for-speed-and-accuracy/

Otherwise, I'm reproducing the contents of that lesson here. What good habits do you cultivate for LG?

Good habits:

-Tick off rules as you translate them into our visual language.

-Write out rules neatly, close to each other.

-Combine rules with overlapping items.

-Every time you encounter a new rule, think about how it interacts with the game items, the board, and the previous rules.

-Reduce visual clutter.

-Try to split the main game-board into sub-game-boards.

-Remember to check for floaters.

When stuck:

-Sufficient failed, rule irrelevant.

-Necessary satisfied, rule irrelevant.

-Pare down and rewrite your rules that still remain.

-Take stock of what items are left.

-Count the number of items left against number of slots left.

-Close out groups when they are full.

Stop the explanation video after the game-board setup. Try to solve the questions yourself.

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For this question here:

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-50-section-2-question-21/

My question:

If E is right, it didn't resolve this discrepancy. Because E implies "if all and only those who ate a particular seafood dish at the restaurant contracted the illness", which only prove that contaminated dish caused the illness. But what official believe is that "contaminated seafood caused the cases of illness". "seafood" and "dish" is not a same thing.

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We all know what AP and MP questions are, but I have ran into many harder AP and MP questions where the stimuli does not actually explicitly state the conclusion, making it difficult to label the different roles each sentences play. The conclusion in these questions are instead implied by the structure of the argument. Since I have ran into several questions like this, I have reasons to believe that this is a recurring theme on harder AP questions that we should be familiar with. However, this is only a hypothesis based on my experience, so I am here to ask all of you to pay attention to this type of questions and post it on this thread to confirm or reject this hypothesis.

Here are two questions that I have so far.

Preptest 28 Sec 3 # 14

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-28-section-3-question-14/

The conclusion here is that citizens in a democratic country should not neglect to vote.

Preptest 50 Sec 2 # 19

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-50-section-2-question-19/

The conclusion here seems to be that one should not go too far in limiting one's fat intake.

In either case the conclusion is not mentioned in the stimuli.

What are your opinions' on this?

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Hi all! I'm new to the forum although I have been using the LG videos which I've found very helpful - thank you for providing this free resource!

I'm curious, does anyone read the questions first before reading the passage? I used to do this on the SAT (baaack in the day) and found it helpful.

Any other good RC prep tips? I haven't really concentrated on this section in my studying.

Thanks!!

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Stimulus:

New Age philosopher: nature evolves organically and nonlinearly...

Flaw question.

I am down to B and E

B: overlooks the possibility that the overall structure of a phenomenon is not always identical to the overall structure of the reasoning that people do about that phenomenon.

I don't know why B is wrong. It seems to me that in the stimulus philosopher claim that the overall structure of a phenomenon (Nature) is organic, holistic, nonlinear. And also philosopher recommend we use the identical overall structure of the reasoning(organic, holistic, nonlinear) to understand that phenomenon, which is exactly what B says.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-49-section-2-question-18/

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I noticed that some games are very easy to diagram. However, I am always unsure on how many sketches I should make. In order to save time, is there a general method for knowing when to draw multiple diagrams vs. using only one?

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Some classes of animal are so successful that they spread into virtually every ecosystem...

Answer: the argument is flaw because "what is true of a whole is also true of its constituent elements"

However, It seems to me that the argument is quite valid. All insects are so successful and ants are the most successful among insects, we can conclude that ants are also successful, which means is not a threatened species. I can't find "whole" "part" flaw here. Anyone help me ?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-48-section-1-question-17/

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I don't know if anyone has this problem and I know the obvious answer to this question would be to just slow down and take more time but I was wondering if anyone finds themselves repeatedly mis-recording rules - messing up something very simple - such as replacing one variable letter with another. I am finding I don't miss infrences as much as I make a dumb mistake such as mis-recording a rule under timed conditions. It is problem, i believe, directly related to trying to get down the rules as fast as possible in order to give myself the most amount of time on the game. However, one slip in the smallest detail while recording the rules can destroy your timing if you have to go back once its been noticed (which is almost always the case, lol). If anyone has had this problem and had any specfic drill, exercies, w/e, that they used to over come it, I would be more than willing to hear them out about it.

Thanks

Jake.

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Just came across a discussion where LSAT takers were saying they start at the middle of the LR sections, essentially getting the hardest questions out of the way first. then working on the easier ones last (1-10/11), since you can speed read those quicker. Do you recommend this approach? I've never heard of this before, they say this is where they saw their biggest jumps.

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* Premise:

- TV news watchers have NO expectations of careful discussion of public issues.

- newspaper readers have the expectation of careful discussion of public issues.

* Conclusion: In contrast to regular newspaper reading, regular watching of network television news programs increases the tendency to think of public issues in oversimplified terms.

*** WEAKENING Answer: Regular watchers of network television news programs are much more likely than other people to be habitual readers of newspapers.

(PT 11/Section 2/#18)

I can see how the answer overlaps the two demographic groups(newspaper readers and TV watchers), but can't the conclusion still stand? Even if the same people watch the news AND read newspapers, the action of watching news itself(=the subject of the conclusion) can still have its impact. Whether they do read the newspapers or not, anybody who watches the TV news are still subjected to the influence of watching TV.... No?

Can anyone point out the critical flaw in my reasoning?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat11-section-2-question-18/

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Hi all, this question comes from PT35, section 1, question 23, i chose E on this one. Can anyone share your thoughts on why E is incorrect?

I thought the author makes assumption that in order to survive, you need to have many beliefs, and then the statistician's rule is all about overall correctness of the total set of one's belief. So the author is implying if you want to survive, you need to have many correct beliefs, right? given the statistician's rule, this is not going to happen, so that is why they are incorrect.

Thanks in advance!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-35-section-1-question-23/

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Hello all,

I've just started taking full length timed tests, starting with preptest 42 and plan on completing 43-69 up to the October test. I am currently scoring around the low 160's. My big issue is timing with the Reading Comp. I'm consistently scoring -2 or less on games, and around -4 or -5 on LR. Can I improve my score enough to get around a 170? I feel if I can just improve on my RC timing within the next 25 or so preptests I take, I should be all set for October. Thanks for your help!

Chris

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Passage: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-36-section-2-passage-3-passage/

Question: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-36-section-2-passage-3-questions/

The selection is the one about hormones and influences on behavior. The intro/background says that "discussions" about hormones and behavior have only talked about sex hormones.

16 has given me a lot of trouble. The right answer is C, but I have a problem with that because the passage does not say anything about "earlier research" at all. It only says "discussions," and therefore I eliminated that answer choice because it seemed to be adding claims that aren't present in the passage.

I'd really appreciate it if someone can explain to me why this shift in term is acceptable here, since generally answers can be eliminated for being out of scope if they use different types of terminology.

I'm especially worried because this seems to be a serious confidence error--I was sure that C was incorrect, since it seemed to be using more specific language (in my opinion, language indicating something that is uniquely different), than what the passage says.

Thanks!

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Taking in October. Doing great on games, and really love In/Out games. But one of my biggest concerns for test day is that I won't recognize an I/O Game as an I/O Game right away. I say this because there are a number of past games that JY runs as I/O Games (genius), but that others don't run as I/O Games because the cues aren't that obvious. When we're practicing, we usually know it's an I/O game because it's in a bundle or part of a quiz. But once or twice on prep tests, I've hit a game and only a few minutes in did I realize it was an I/O game.

This is a very long way of asking if there is a lesson that I missed, or if anyone has some good cheats, for a foolproof way to spot an I/O Game instantly.

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So i'm going through the LR practice questions and I get about every Strength question right. But, I do awful in the weaking questions. And I know both are so similarly so I cannot understand why. I am also very strong in MSS section so maybe I am just taking the same approach. Would like some ideas or help to improve.

Is anyone else having the same problem?

Chris

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I feel kind of hopeless on LG. I've improved since I've been studying, but I figured after a few months I'd have them down, but its not the case. I still get trouble with some double layered sequencing games, and I havent really done much grouping yet. I do the games - watch the 7 sage video - memorize the inferences through printing a bunch of copies out. I duno what to do now. I practice them for hours a day and I feel like I am not gaining much progress on them. (I have both the LGB and MLG)

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Hi! I took the June 2013 LSAT and got a decent score but I know I can do better. I did the Kaplan online class, which didn't really help me all that much. I was wondering if this is different enough from Kaplan to help raise my score? I don't live close to any in-class options so I can only do online anyways. Any suggestions on other study material would be great! thanks!

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I really appreciate the LG videos. They have been very helpful. Thank you! I am feeling very confident about setting up a game and making inferences. My issue right now is that it takes me FOREVER to go through the questions, especially the first question on each game, those where there is tons of language. The dinosaur game comes to mind (Test 57,game 3). I was able to set it up correctly & got all questions right but it was "painful" to go through each question and answer which contained so much convoluted language. I would like to know if you have tips, general information, or tutorials on how to approach LG questions/ question types with the goal of moving through them quickly without losing accuracy?

Many thanks in advance!

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Hello,

So I just recently (i.e. last night) registered officially with 7sage. I had been working with the Powerscore Logic Games bible, got uberly confused with some games, and turned to some of the 7sage videos online. Much easier to digest.

I wrote the June LSAT last year after just studing for a month and a half (some stuff came up) and managed to score in the 150s. I've been browsing through these blogs, and it seems like everyone's been on 7sage since April. I'm beginning to freak out. Is it too late to be studying for the October, wanting to own the LSAT?

Anila

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