It seems I am in a pretty unfortunate situation! When I began taking the practice tests, my scores were steadily increasing, to the point that I was achieving 15+ points over my baseline score for the first LSAT I took without studying. However, over the last week each PT I take I see my score decrease more and more to the point that I am now back at my baseline score. I don't understand why as I went through the 7Sage program and feel as though I am really understanding all of the questions. I am hoping to get a 170+ on the June LSAT and this is a seriously huge setback. Does anyone have any advice for me? I am truly beginning to loose hope on my score and there's only 5 days until the LSAT! Crying forever, SOS I would appreciate any advice, insight, or personal experiences!

I'm set for the December test but financial aid is important to me. I know that, generally speaking, there is less money available later in the admission cycle (also less spots available). My main focus is on improving my score, but I am wondering if anyone has researched re-applications?

Say I apply in Jan '18 when the score comes back. Maybe I get into the school I want but without aid or without much. Would a school react if I held off and re-applied in the Summer/Fall of '18? Would I get the benefit of the earlier admission timing?

Also, am I just over-thinking all of this?

I'm taking the June 12th LSAT. My first diagnostic was 152 and highest was 162; I would say my average is 161 and goal is 164. I have been studying daily for 4 months but my diagnostic scores have not improved in the past 4 weeks. In addition to the 1000s of questions from the prep course, I have taken nearly 20 (timed and proctored through the 7Sage app) prep tests. Of the most recent 9, 7 have fallen between 160-162 and the other 2, which are the ones I have taken most recently have dropped to 158. I have taken a prep course, had 7 2-hour personal tutoring sessions, consulted the correct resources/books and I have studied in a very proactive manner. In all three: LR, LG, & RC, I have performed well, often getting only 0-5 wrong in a section. My issue is that I have been unable to put those into one exam. When I perform exceptionally well in a section, its outweighed by a section where I perform worse than usual. And of course, I tend to do better in the ungraded section.

It is very demoralizing and I am beginning to think that I have reached the peak of my "LSAT intelligence" and that I am not meant for the "top schools." It doesn't help that I have never been a great test taker. Thoughts of taking the LSAT a second time in September have crept into my mind, but I don't see why or how I can improve for September when I haven't been able to improve currently, when I'm at my LSAT studying peak.

Has anyone else been in a similar situation or have input regarding taking it again in September? Any tips or thoughts appreciated?

Best,

I'm so frustrated. I printed prep test 43 from my university print lab because after trying multiple computers, it was the only one that agreed to print the prep test, and when I sat down to time myself with the test, I realized it had given up printing at question #24 from section 3, and had resumed at question #7 from section 4, but stopped again at #17 from section 4. This threw off my entire timed run and when I ran down to the library print lab to try to print the last section, it would not print. It's just frustrating that after paying such a sum for this prep site, I cannot even get the tests to print.

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PT 1-35 for drilling material is no longer on my course/syllabus and I can't find them anywhere on 7Sage anymore...Is this gone for other people too?

Thanks all!!

I've been reading some posts and some people are saying that they're recording themselves taking PTs. How does that work? I know this may sound like a silly question but do you just record your face or your hands? (if hands, what kind of device do you need to do that?)

Thank you all so much in advance. I'm always so appreciative of all of your comments and advice!

The title says it all. Thoughts, and why?

Hello everyone.. some advice needed!

A bit of background.. I am registered for the June 2017 date and I am wondering if I should postpone to September? I've taken around 18 PTs. My goal is to get 160+ on the actual test (mid 160s would be ideal). I've only PT'd between 160-164 on 5 PTS. Below is my recent trend:

PT 64 162

PT 65 160

PT 66 160

PT 67 158

PT 68 158

PT 69 159

PT 70 164

PT 71 163

PT 72 158

PT 73 159 (taken yesterday)

As you can see.. with June test approaching Monday I've started to get stuck in the 158-159 score. I also want to account for the test day drop in points due to nervousness because I've heard this is something definitely to factor in?

I've been told you need to be consistently scoring higher than your goal on multiple PTs in order to be ready, however with a few days left, I'm still not there..

Should I stick with June test on Monday or Postpone to September? (Disclaimer: I would be able to devote to studying over the summer full-time).

Any advice appreciated! Thank you!

Hi all,

After three and a half months of studying, primarily using the PowerScore Bibles, I've decided to withdraw from the June exam and study for another few months. As I've already studied many of the concepts covered in the CC, and have completed roughly twenty PTs, I'm wondering how you'd suggest moving through the CC. I know which question types I need to improve on, but I also don't want to cut corners, skipping essential parts of the CC (I find that JY's explanations are infinitely more nuanced than any of the books I've read). Would you suggest that I start from square one and move through the curriculum in order? I'm concerned about going out of order as I know that each concept builds upon the strong foundation of another, but I also don't want to waste time re-learning what I'm comfortable doing. Thanks, in advance!

What up gang, 6 days til D day, who's pumped!!!???

Anyway, I trying to drill Logic games tonight and tomorrow, wondering if anyone has a list or some examples of "The forgotten few" as Powergames calls them. Those are Pattern, Circular Linearity and Mapping Games. I'm going to start looking through my past tests for examples, and I'll post the PT number and section of those I find for anyone interested, but thought some crowd-sourcing could save us all some effort :)

I have found a pattern of question I continuously get wrong. I think I know why I get it wrong too. In part it's not having a clear enough understanding of exactly which flaw I am seeing, but the other part is I can not understand what the heck the answer choices mean. An example of this question type is 49.2.18 (test, section, question).

The answer choices say thing like;

E.) Takes for granted that a phenomenon that can best be understood as having certain properties can best be understood only through reasoning that shares those properties. ---------- What did the test just say to me? Should I be offended? Is it insulting my mom?

Or

C.) Fails to distinguish adequately between the characteristics of a phenomenon as a whole and those of the deliberately isolated parts of that phenomenon. ---------- I think it's saying "Doesn't show the difference between the whole and the parts" but I am not sure.

These answer choices appear on every test, in one convoluted way or another, and each time I trip fall, pick a bubble and move on.

Advice for unpacking these answer choices, and maybe to addressing flaws better?

Hello everyone,

This is my last week of the CC before the PT's start and I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice. I am still struggling with games and also want to utilize my copy of LSAT Trainer which I have not started. I am hoping to take the September LSAT and am shooting for around a 170 with my diagnostic being a 158.

With this being the case, should I delay PT'ing while I foolproof games from 1-35/read the Trainer? Or should I try and PT while foolproofing the games and reading the Trainer? To make a lot of questions short, what order do you think I should pursue and how much time should I dedicate to each?

Thanks!

I am right now finishing a passage about totally half an hour, and mostly -2. Desperated! Any hope there?

How you guys deal with RC. I know most of you may do it effortlessly.

Cynthia

I have been reading horror stories of people scoring like -7 points from their average PT scores before the test. I am content with my PT average and my scores have been very consistent, but I'm terrified by these stories of people underperforming significantly on test day. Is this even a common thing, to have your PT average that radically different than your LSAT score???

I know that when I input my PTs into Analytics, there is way that I can see how 7sage ranks the difficulty of that section. But is there any way to find out the difficulty rating for sections that I haven't taken? I'm trying to practice a few full LR and RC sections that 7sage has ranked at either 4 or 5 difficulty.

I understood "A or B but not both" as one of the followings:

Then what is the contrapositive of it?

A/B = CONTRAPOSITIVE => /A + /B ?????

But my last statement (3) indicates /A and /B could fall under the definition of "A or B but not both".

Can someone clarify my thoughts please :(

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Hi all,

Shooting for September here. What are the most important/effective lifestyle changes to make before that date? Also, why?

This post is particularly aimed towards top scorers who have already taken the test/are taking soon,

This whole time I thought "more likely" = strictly correlation because it means the same as "tend to" which is also correlation, but it seems like it can be used as causation as well according to the more recent PTs.

Hi @"Dillon A. Wright" or anyone else that can help,

If you could please help me out I would be grateful.

I cannot print any prep tests from my ipad. It's a brand new Ipad pro which has printed other webpages, photos, and PDF's just fine. When I try to print the e-protected documents (prep tests) it doesn't work at all. I use the Chrome browser.

Here's what I do: I go to the Prep test (78, in this case) and click "Print and take test". Then I click "Prep Test 78 - Printable". Then I click "Print". No dialog box pops up. In fact, nothing pops up, at all. It's as if when I click "Print" nothing happened at all.

I have already tried rebooting my printer and rebooting my Ipad. Any suggestions would be helpful.

I'm not going to do anything LSAT related the weekend before, other than perhaps one set of logic games (without scoring them) on Sunday to keep my mind fresh or something. It's a very odd feeling to have a full weekend beforehand; I took for the first time in December, and it was a lot easier to just have a chill Friday night to do nothing. 3 full nights seems kind of a long time, and I'm not drinking or going out for obvious reasons. The NBA finals will probably be over at that point, so I don't even have that to distract me. Perhaps I'll binge watch the new season of house of cards or the handmaiden's tale (which I've heard rave reviews about), play some FIFA, or gasp read a book. What're y'all planning on doing to relax?

Hi, i just finished the CC and i am currently foolproofing LGs i read so many reviews about the trainer so i bought it. I was wondering if anyone could let me know how they use it in conjunction w 7sage

Hello all. I've been prescribed adderall for a while now and I'm fully aware of its effects. I've studied for the LSAT with and without adderall where I'm doing much much better ON it.

I was wondering if I should also take one on the test. Or if it would be necessary.

I don't condone it's use without a need...and this is not what my question is about. I'd advise anyone who hasn't done it to definitely notttt take it on test day as I guarantee you'll royally screw yourself over.

On adderall I have no issues with timing and accuracy. I finish sections with 5 minutes left over and I'm comfortable with all the material. Without adderall, the best I can get to finishing is by rushing and skipping. I don't absorb information so readily and I miss words because I don't concentrate enough.

My preptests are great on adderall I just worry that it might not be the same test day.

I'm generally great with stimulants like coffee and energy drinks and increased stimulation never leads me to spaz out.

Hey guys,

So my problem is the my test is next week and I have been devoting so much time to LR, that I am kind of still slipping up in LG. I have the fundamentals so I think, but I'm still bombing the LG. I have the powerscore books and I'm trying to Drill. While there isn't that many questions in the Starter to do on 7sage to help me practice I'm lost. Im not pushing my test back! I think I'm getting overwhelmed and btw i already at Test my goal is pretty low but it will get me into school. Judge or me or not but all I need is about half the test right. How do I get back on top of LG. I don't know where I'm slipping. Any advice for LG or overall tactics??