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I understand it is advocated by JY, specifically in MBT, sufficient/pseudo assumption and parallel reasoning questions. Even if one seems to be getting nearly every question correct without writing the conditional logic down (sometimes I internalize it, sometimes I just think about it intuitively), would you say it is still essential just for good measure?
What does it mean when an answer choice, as is the case in PT17, Sec. 3, #20, Answer D, says, "Fails to consider the status..." of something?
In other words, in this instance, what is the definition of "status"?
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-17-section-3-question-20/
Hey guys,
So I just wanted to get some feedback on how I should approach my issue.
I took my first timed LR section and scored only 10/25 (I only got thru the first 15questions and then guessed for the rest because I ran out of time)
However, on BR, I got 21/25. I have been going thru the core curriculum for about 6 months on and off, and made sure I really understood everything before even taking a timed section. I had plans to take a full PT36 (this weekend) but thought maybe I should take a timed LR first to get a feel for how it is before I dive into a full exam. I just feel really let down by this to be honest. I have been putting in so much work every single day (drilling, practicing, watching the videos, practicing logic). I do see improvement because on my diagnostic i got 8/25 timed and only 10/25 when I tried to BR it without any knowledge of the LSAT.
I am really struggling when it comes to timing myself. I find that I cannot read as fast, and I often reread the stimulus when timed to get a good grasp of what it is telling me.
I also took a timed PT of games section. I froze on the games where I couldn't diagram. However, when BR, I was able to do really well on that section. I practiced a lot for LG too, constantly doing games, watching videos for hours and hours. I just find this really upsetting.
I have been studying on and off for the lsat and now full time for it. I am registered for the June exam.
What I want to ask is, at this stage should I just keep BR and practice timing myself? Or go back to the CC?? I have also read thru the LSAT trainer and reviewed the CC twice (second time just skilling thru the materials).
I feel like I have a good grasp of the core material, i'm just struggling to apply it when timed. I would really appreciate any feedback on what I should do.
Thank you :)
First off, I wanted to thank 7sage and its awesome community for its support through this LSAT endeavor. It hasn't been a smooth and silky road, but i've made it through thanks to some webinars, lessons, and chat discussions. Thank you all.
I took the feb LSAT, and the re-take was a moderates success. I ended up with a 165, froze on the games and had to blindly guess on i think 8-9 questions. Still, I got into the University of Washington with that score, and i'll soon find out about scholarship info.
Im happy that I was accepted, but because i was scoring 170-172 on my PT's, (and feeling like I could still improve), my aspirations were a bit higher. So now, I'm deciding whether to just accept this route towards UW or wait one more year to take one last crack at the LSAT. My s/o was accepted at her ideal university, also here in Washington, and my whole family is here as well, so there is that additional consideration of even if I do get a higher score on another take and get accepted to a goal school, would I really be emotionally able to leave? It's also just still kind of hard thing for me to swallow to accept this last take as final, as i've figured out (as much as i can) the anxiety issue that made me freeze.
These thoughts have just been bouncing around in my brain for a while, and mostly I think just writing/posting this will help the decision making process. But still, any thoughts/opinions?
Thank you all again for being such an awesome community these past months.
I've been tearing up for the past hour haha. Never imagined I would be making a post like this on 7Sage.
Just wanted to thank this awesome community and @"david.busis" . The advice I received on this forum and blind review calls has been invaluable.
(3(/p)
3 months into my LSAT prep and I thought I had logic games down, but I just attempted PT "C" and was surprised how difficult the games were. Went -3 in 41 minutes. Is this section particularly more difficult than the other ones? On the bright side, it was a fun section! Glad to know there's still room for improvement :)
Hey 7Sagers, I'm leading another twelve-hour long LR workshop (#5) over four nights (three hours per night) for five students to provide an intensive and comprehensive overview of all foundational concepts and their application to all types of LR questions.
Schedule
Session 1 - April 28, Friday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)
Session 2 - April 29, Saturday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)
Session 3 - April 30, Sunday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)
Session 4 - May 1, Monday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)
Cost
Free. But! There's a $150 deposit to reserve your spot. If you show up on time and participate for the entire duration of all sessions, your deposit will automatically be refunded fully at the end of the workshop. Otherwise, it is forfeit. Please make sure you can attend the entire 12 hour long workshop.
#Frequently Asked Questions
Q: How will you select which five students will participate?
A: Lottery. If you are interested, please comment below in this thread within 48 hours. If selected for the lottery, you'll have another 48 hours to place the deposit to reserve your spot.
Q: Who should take this workshop and what will be covered?
A: Beginners. This means you haven't finished the Core Curriculum yet and you're not starting to take PrepTests yet. Imagine the workshop as a fast paced overview of the entire Core Curriculum that pertains to LR. We'll cover theory and we'll apply that theory to actual LSAT questions. It will be highly interactive and hence the limit of four students. Wherever you are in the Core Curriculum, this a great way to solidify the concepts covered.
Q: Can I sign up even if I'm not a beginner?
A: Yes, you can. I'm certain that it'll benefit you to return to concepts covered in the Core Curriculum. I'm also certain that you will find it very slow at times since I will be speaking to students on the assumption that they are beginners.
Q: Do I need to have a paid 7Sage account to sign up?
A: Yes, you do. If you have an expired account, message Dillon and see if he's willing to reactivate it for you.
Q: What materials are used in this workshop?
A: The workbook that you will be provided with will contain LR questions from PrepTests 54, 55, and 56. Yes, we will be "burning" those PrepTests in order to get a closer look at the modern LSAT.
Q: What do I need to do to prepare for the workshop if I get in?
A: You should print the above mentioned workbook. You should be in a quiet space where you can talk freely. You should have a fast internet connection. You should have headphones or earphones ready.
Q: How do I attend the workshop?
A: The workshop will be hosted on Amazon's Chime. Instructions and meeting location will be sent to you once you've successfully registered.
Q: Will there be more workshops in LR / LG / RC in the future?
A: Yes. This session accommodates east coasters who work during the day. Future sessions will accommodate others.
Thank you 7sage. The waiting process of admissions has been brutal but this week I got into both of my dream schools! None of this would have been possible without this amazing community. I cannot say enough times how awesome 7sage is and everytime I see what is new it seems to be getting better and better. I love this community and owe so much to many people here. THANK YOUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!
@"Dillon A. Wright" Dillon, I added a few random questions to the shopping cart in order to test the printing function for my blind review. I do not see a print function/option. Can you tell me how to print my question bank questions?
Admin edit: You can now print questions in PDF from the Question Bank:
Hey guys! I'm super stoked. I finally hit -3 on RC! I have been stuck at -4 for over a year! Now I know I should be striving for -0 but let me have this moment! LOL I was just as excited when I hit my first -0 on a passage. I've been loosely using Nicole's method for sometime but recently I decided to get stricter with it. Sorry, I don't have anything to add about how I achieved my one point success. It's nothing new. I was just super geeked and decide to post! Somebody feels me, I know! Have a good day, yall!!
I was wondering if anyone has a schedule they follow for fool proofing logic games? I usually just do one the next morning, and schedule that same game about 2-3 days later on a calendar, but I was wondering if anybody has a different routine?
Thanks in advance!
If LSAC does not process your transcript before the application deadline, are you just screwed? I know you can still submit your application to the school even if your transcript and LORs are not processed, but do the schools consider your application to be incomplete and just not accept it?
I can't see why (E) is wrong. Could anyone explain why (D) is right?? Appreciate in advance
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-19-section-2-question-04/
The correct answer to this question is information that would help to evaluate the argument in the stimulus. If the information is taken to one extreme, it will strengthen the argument, and if the information is taken to the other extreme, it will weaken the argument. Under this standard, why isn't (D) correct?
The argument breaks down as follows, imo:
Premise: A nearly complete skeleton of an earlier dinosaur that was not a T.Rex had the T.Rex characteristics (big head, small arms, long legs), but was much smaller in size and lighter than the T.Rex.
Conclusion: The T.Rex's features (big head, small arms, long legs) did not develop in order to accommodate the size and weight of the T.Rex.
I understand why (B) is a question that would help evaluate the argument, but why isn't (D) considered information helpful to evaluate the argument?
If the earlier dinosaur is NOT related to the T.Rex, then wouldn't that weaken the argument by leaving it more vulnerable to the objection that some difference between that dino and the T.Rex explains the counterexample away? And imagine if the dinosaur was almost exactly the same as a T.Rex (so extremely closely related) -- wouldn't that strengthen the argument by strengthening the relevance of the counterexample and making it harder to distinguish it?
Let's go a little bit outside the stimulus to explore this issue -- if we had found a mammal skeleton that had the T.Rex head, arm, and leg characteristics, but the mammal was tiny, would that evidence be just as powerful as the skeleton evidence in the stimulus? If not, then doesn't that prove the relatedness of the skeleton specie and the T. Rex IS helpful to evaluating the argument? And if the answer is yes (that a mammal skeleton would be just as powerful as a dino skeleton as evidence for the conclusion), how?
Thank you for any thoughts.
Hey guys!
So I graduate in may and I'm looking to move to Texas to gain residency. I am going to apply to UT next year, and one of their admissions criteria is geographical diversity, so they're looking for underrepresented areas of texas. I currently live 40 miles away from El Paso, Texas and 600 miles away from Austin. I am thinking they'd pass over someone already living in Austin. Am I giving this too much thought and this is really an unimportant soft factor?
On another note, I'm going to begin studying for the lsat again with 7sage as soon as I graduate. Currently scoring at 156.
Hi there,
I'm beginning studying for the September test and I'd like to focus on logic games. However, I took the February test and have written on all my preptests (approx 36-60). I'd like to go back through the logic games I've done and rework them for practice, but I need clean copies. Any advice on where to fine some?
Thanks so much!
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-35-section-1-question-17/
In BR, I realized that the proper interpretation of the occurrence of severe climatic warming (SCW) or volcanic activity (VA) was through the Inclusive "Or", which says and/or. But that would mean one of them must occur. /A-->B. However, in reading the sentence it's clear that neither of those events must happen. After thinking about it for a few minutes, I realized that the presence of "could" alters each of those ideas because we're talking about what's possible and not what occurred.
Temporary melting = TM
Could = c
TM --> SCWc or VAc
If TM, then either could happen, but neither must happen.
So I recently have been considering schools and careers beyond what I originally have thought of doing. I am curious aboutthe University of Virginia's Law School and would love to hear anyone's experience with them (interviews, what they're looking for in an applicant, etc.). Thanks!
Hey 7Sagers, I'm leading another twelve-hour long LR workshop (#4) over four nights (three hours per night) for five students to provide an intensive and comprehensive overview of all foundational concepts and their application to all types of LR questions.
Schedule
Session 1 - April 24, Monday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)
Session 2 - April 25, Tuesday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)
Session 3 - April 26, Wednesday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)
Session 4 - April 27, Thursday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)
Cost
Free. But! There's a $150 deposit to reserve your spot. If you show up on time and participate for the entire duration of all sessions, your deposit will automatically be refunded fully at the end of the workshop. Otherwise, it is forfeit. Please make sure you can attend the entire 12 hour long workshop.
#Frequently Asked Questions
Q: How will you select which five students will participate?
A: Lottery. If you are interested, please comment below in this thread within 48 hours. If selected for the lottery, you'll have another 48 hours to place the deposit to reserve your spot.
Q: Who should take this workshop and what will be covered?
A: Beginners. This means you haven't finished the Core Curriculum yet and you're not starting to take PrepTests yet. Imagine the workshop as a fast paced overview of the entire Core Curriculum that pertains to LR. We'll cover theory and we'll apply that theory to actual LSAT questions. It will be highly interactive and hence the limit of four students. Wherever you are in the Core Curriculum, this a great way to solidify the concepts covered.
Q: Can I sign up even if I'm not a beginner?
A: Yes, you can. I'm certain that it'll benefit you to return to concepts covered in the Core Curriculum. I'm also certain that you will find it very slow at times since I will be speaking to students on the assumption that they are beginners.
Q: Do I need to have a paid 7Sage account to sign up?
A: Yes, you do. If you have an expired account, message Dillon and see if he's willing to reactivate it for you.
Q: What materials are used in this workshop?
A: The workbook that you will be provided with will contain LR questions from PrepTests 54, 55, and 56. Yes, we will be "burning" those PrepTests in order to get a closer look at the modern LSAT.
Q: What do I need to do to prepare for the workshop if I get in?
A: You should print the above mentioned workbook. You should be in a quiet space where you can talk freely. You should have a fast internet connection. You should have headphones or earphones ready.
Q: How do I attend the workshop?
A: The workshop will be hosted on Amazon's Chime. Instructions and meeting location will be sent to you once you've successfully registered.
Q: Will there be more workshops in LR / LG / RC in the future?
A: Yes. This session accommodates east coasters who work during the day. Future sessions will accommodate others.
Hello everyone,
While going through my last few practice tests , I have noticed that I have two consistent problems regarding LR sections.
I tend to re-read the stimulus at least twice, and sometimes more than twice, which wastes a lot of time. How can I fix this? Is there a way to make sure that I understand the stimulus well with one read? Also, how do I keep myself from being obfuscated?
This problem is similar to the first one. A lot of the times, when I get a question wrong, it is because I read the stimulus wrong, or misunderstood, or missed an important phrase here or there. How do I improve paying better attention to the finer details?
Thank you for your help!
Hello, all:
Just so you don't have to bring up the curriculum or your notes, argument form six is as follows:
A → B
A → C
B ←s→ C
I don't have a question about why we may infer "B ←s→ C" from the premises above, but rather, I have a question about the inferences we can make from the individual premises themselves, inherently.
From what I understand, without a background in formal logic (or informal logic, for that matter), it seems we assume that universally quantified statements imply the existence of their subjects on the LSAT. This is what allows us to infer "most" and "some" from "all" on the LSAT - correct? If this is the case, then can't we infer "/B -m→ /A" and "/B ←s→ /A" from "A → B" (or /B → /A) and "/C -m→ /A" and "/C ←s→ /A" from "A → C" (or /C → /A)?
I'm not sure whether we'd be tested on these inferences if we're indeed able to infer them, or if past LSATs have tested them at some point, but I thought I'd ask. Presumably, LSAC is testing our ability to see that the premises above, "A → B" and "A → C," allow us to infer "B ←s→ C."
Thank you all for your time! Best wishes to you all in your studies!
**Edited this post because this is the internet and therefore I need to be extra careful that the intended meaning is conveyed.
This is an email I received today from a law school. I've received several emails from law schools daily since writing for the LSAT last December. The problem is that I didn't reach my target score, so every successive email serves as a reminder of my formerly misguided prep (I immediately unsubscribe). But this email alarmed/amused me.
This is a Tier 8 law school apparently so desperate to fill their classrooms that they don't even ask you to take the LSAT (or the GRE). It's alarming because I regard this sort of email as predatory -- particularly for students who may not know better or are feeling down about a poor score. And it's amusing because, well, it's just so absurd! It's absurd because here is a school whose sole premise for why we should apply there is that we don't need to take the LSAT.
To anyone out there frustrated with their first, second, or third take, your score doesn't define you. The 7Sage community is here to support us all in our LSAT pursuits so that when it's all said and done, we're left without regrets. But for some of us, despite our wishes, dreams, hard work, or expenditures, Law School may not be the best option. If you are even considering a school such as the one who sent me this email, please, PLEASE contact a Sage, Mentor, or Tutor in this community and chat. I promise there will be no shortage of knowledgeable people ready listen and share feedback.
"Instead, it considers an essay test that the school itself has developed and most importantly, it is read and graded by a full time MSLAW professor who, based upon years of practical and academic experience, is well qualified to assess an applicant's ability to think and write well. The requirement of a mandatory interview, the review of an applicant's entire record in school and the work force, and the essay aptitude test enable the Admissions Committee to identify worthy students who would be denied admission to traditional law schools simply because of their LSAT scores.
Applications are still being accepted for the Fall 2017 Semester. Apply Today!
Best,"
Interesting article.we don't need care much on requirement.
I'm high beginner/low int. in french and I got a 174 on the LSAT. We can skype/zoom? @"Dillon A. Wright" Sorry if this isn't allowed. Just delete me into non-existence.
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