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Wednesday, October 19rd at 7PM ET: PT 75

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My first two years were not great (2.7 GPA), I spent too much time at my fraternity, showing up to class hungover/still drunk, and just did not take school as seriously as I should have. My GPA as since been rising (3.77 average). Will this come into play?

I have read in quite a number of forums that the 70's PTs are tougher than the 60's PTs, or at least that peoples scores go down when they break into the 70's. I haven't taken any of the 70's yet, but I have taken some 60's (61,62,63,69) and a number from 30-59 (like 15). So can anyone, without spoiling anything in the PTs I haven't seen, explain a bit about why people are having more trouble with the 70's and how I can avoid it?

Did anybody else think that 77 was light-years easier than 76? Some people that I have talked to have said that 76 was easier but I do not see that at all. The games on 77 were much easier. Also, on 77 you had easier concepts like casual reasoning that were stressed

Hi all,

I was wondering if anybody know IF anything should go on the top of the person statement? This would include something like my name and LSAC account number.

I am submitting an additional information document, and my advisor told me to put my L number and a title at the top of that, so i was wondering if the same is true for the personal statement?

If so, does this count towards the space limit?

thanks

Hey ’Sagers.

Here's my situation: I’m 12 PTs in, and I’m scoring generally between high 160s and low 170s (BR usually 178-179). I was hoping to take the exam in December, and my target score is 175+. I am not there, most of all because of LG.

I’m all over the place with LG, and generally way, way under where I want to be, which is starting to unnerve me because I was planning to sit for the exam in six weeks. I’m missing -0 to -8 (last PTs: -4, -2, -0, -8, -7, -7), generally riding these sections out as a pencil-gripping emotional mess, usually not getting to every question and missing others. I’m headed back to review in/out games, lessons I guess I rushed through initially, which is probably why these games in particular are a challenge. I foolproof every game and then go back and do the entire LG section at once to get a feel for proper timing. (Also I should say that I did the foolproof method for every game so far, including those in the core curriculum.) I 'get' the games eventually, it’s the first time around (the, um, one that matters) that I seem to fall apart.

I feel any remaining gains in RC and LR will happen largely through PTing, but also that I should hold off on burning through LG sections until I am more confident on games. So my plan as of right now is to continue to take PTs, skipping the LG sections for now, subbing in a section or two from an older test so I can still get a feel for the full length of the exam. That way I can still work on RC and LR and overall strategy. Then, when I feel more confident on LG, I'll catch up on those sections, adding them as a fifth section to my PTs.

I’m also thinking about going through the LSAT Trainer for just games and wondering if it’s too late to start that. Or maybe getting a tutor in NYC. I’m six weeks out from my desired test date. If I postpone until Feb that means waiting another year to apply, or applying very late, both of which I REALLY do not want to do.

I also realize that at this point that if completing 2 PTs/week on average means I will do only about 24 total PTs before 12/3. I want to get the best possible score (like, obvi), so I’m wondering if I should just plan on moving things to February, maybe applying extremely late or just the next cycle. (Again, I do not want to do this.)

So the questions:

1) How does that 6-week strategy sound? ~2 PTs a week, plus LG ‘bootcamp,’ maybe with The Trainer, waiting to do LG sections until I’m more confident [2 weeks, hopefully, which would give me a month to practice on the actual PTs.])

2) Does anyone recommend adding the LSAT Trainer for LG? Could I get through the games chapters in 2 weeks? Or am I just going to add an unnecessary cook into the kitchen?

3) Would the difference between taking roughly 25 PTs vs 40 PTs warrant postponing applying until February or the next cycle?

4) Has anyone worked with a tutor for LG in NYC and had a positive experience? Again, I’m game-proficient, just not within the time constraints of the exam. Ideally I'd want someone to look at what I've done in past exams, maybe watch me do a section, give me feedback.

Thanks!

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Friday, October 21 at 12PM ET: PT74

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I'm new to 7sage, but not to LSAT and the admissions process. I'm getting ready to apply for the fall 2017 cycle and I recently learned of something that could possibly ruin my apps... my criminal history. I was unaware, until now, that you MUST disclose your criminal background when applying.

My GPA is above the median for my target school and so is my LSAT score. I have good work experience, interned with a government consulting firm. I'm 27 years old (about to turn 28), and am just about to finish my BS in economics. And... I have 5 underage drinking charges and two marijuana possession charges. Oh, and god knows how many speeding tickets. No felonies or serious crimes. Just the mark of someone who loved to party when they were a teenager. So I heard some good things about 7sage and figured I would ask the community to see if I could get some guidance on my situation.

I really want an honest, unadulterated answer. Am i fucked? All of these charges happened between ages 15-21. So, they were a long time ago. I'm just worried that this might show a pattern of behavior that calls into question my "character and fitness." Granted it has been almost 8 years since I last had a run in with the law, I'm just worried the volume of charges might be too much for them to look past.

I feel terrible right now, and am kind of freaking out. I put in so much time and effort with school and the LSAT. Being rejected for my criminal background would just crush my whole world.

Will they start over the process even if we just want to ask additional accommodation?

Will they elliminate the accommodations they have granted?

I am a little confused. I got a raw score of 80 on my latest LSAT. What scaled score does that translate to?

Hey all. Just wanted to write and foster a discussion about weakening questions. I don't really fully understand them. Sometimes I will get them right and then other times I will completely mess them up. I am really quite sad about this, as I obviously want to conquer them. Any insight into approach would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

hey guys, how long does it take to BR and do you have a systematic approach that works best for you? I feel like i need to experiment a bit with my BR process. Thanks in advance!

When there is a premise saying A cause B, For example.

A.

Premise(1): A Cause B

Premise(2). There is B

Conclusion: There is A

Is this a valid way of reasoning?

B. This is valid reasoning, right?

Premise(1): A Cause B

Premise(2). There is A

Conclusion: There is B

Just wondering, when do they publish PT79?

Where do you usually get PTs?

And, when does 7sage publish explanations for newest PT?

Hey everyone!

This is my first post here. I'm planning to enroll with 7Sage imminently. Excited for the journey!

I have a copy of Mike Kim's Trainer and I was wondering if it's a good idea to incorporate it along with 7Sage's Core Curriculum.

Should I do one before the other instead? Does it even matter?

Additional info: I plan on taking the LSAT in September of next year

Thanks in advance!

As I am completing the core curriculum, we are required to obtain PT 39 and 40. These two tests are (for me) nearly unobtainable. The only access is to buy a book on amazon going for almost $140. I'm curious to how other Sager's work through this conundrum. Is there a better way to obtain these two tests without dishing out over a $100? If not, how did you get around this barrier? Perhaps am I looking in the wrong place for these two tests, or have other people just skipped PT 39 and 40 in the curriculum (which I am contemplating doing)? Any thoughts? I have found all other PT's I need, just not PT 39 and 40 :-(

Hey guys, I do not have an available printer that I can use without having to pay to print out certain problem sets at my school library. My biggest problem is the time limit still, finding the right answer has not been an issue for me. I was wondering if printing out the problems to do actual marking on the problem sheet would increase my time dramatically and also help me improve my overall score. As of now I am just doing using scratch paper to answer the questions. I am still learning and improving but I was just wondering if having an actual paper document in front of me to mark would would help me more to the point where it is worth printing it out. Thanks!

I got PT 60s raw score around 165, but when I review PT 40s and 50s, I still got 159 and around. Really upset about that it. What will happen on PT 70s and on the real test?

Hey guys,

I am graduating from college in the Spring of 2017. My projected GPA will be around 3.7 or 3.69.

Does it make a difference for law school admissions to have a GPA of 3.7 as opposed to 3.69?

Thank you.

I plan on going into public interest law and so the personal statement discusses my drive for social justice. I've written it and had a couple of people look at it, but now need to fine tune it.

Hey guys so I am a football player at a Division I football school with a scholarship. I'm not trying to say that being a student athlete is a justification for a low GPA but I am sitting around a 3.3 cumulative but a 3.9 major GPA. However, I'm scoring in the high 160's/low 170's for the LSAT, and I still got 7 more weeks till I take it in December. I also have 2 years of law internship experience and I have three solid letters of recommendation. I also know that some applications allow you to justify a low GPA in an essay. However, I heard that the Law School application process is computerized, and it automatically denies students below a certain combination of GPA and LSAT score. So am I kind of already screwed over in the application process? or do I just need to increase my LSAT score even more? Anyone's opinions would be nice. My goal schools are NYU, Columbia, and USC. Thanks!

If I have:

/G most W

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W some U

And, I want to draw "W some U".

Are these possibilities?

/G most U

/G most W

/G some U

/G most W

/G ---> U

/G most W

I don't see how this one works.

/G some U

/G most W

So we also wanted to check in this week on the time change. Since we've been going so late, the idea was to start a little earlier for the east coast folks. I figured, the east coast usually needs to leave early so let's bump it up a little for them. If west coast needs to be a little late, no problem, it'll balance out. My worry is that the psychology of being late may be different enough from leaving early that folks are willing to leave early but not arrive late. Or, the drop in attendance could just be the normal post test attendance drop. Anyway, I've attached a poll so that you guys can pitch in. We just want to make sure we're accommodating as many people as possible. Thanks guys!

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Saturday, October 15st at 7PM ET: PT 72

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So I've taken a look all around the forums, and watched the videos on the Memory Method, but I was just wondering how you guys think I should try and implement the Memory Method into my test-taking habits for the December LSAT? I have the freedom to study everyday, so whatever you guys suggest is cool, I just want to improve my RC a little bit, at least (I'm consistently at like -13).

Essentially, I want to know how often to practice, and how I should practice using the Memory Method?

Thank you guys, appreciate any help I can get!

I think I am confused with causal argument and conditionality.

I felt when causal argument has something to do with explanation, giving explanation/hypothesis in the conclusion. Then, there is some kind of bi conditional relationship between cause and effect. (if there is a cause there must be effect, if there is a effect, there must be cause, and there is no alternative explanation)

However, if there is a premise describing a causal relationship, would it be okay to think that there is bi conditional relationship between cause and effect? I feel like there is only one way relationship. Cause being the sufficient condition and Effect being the necessary condition.

Plz Comment. I am using this idea when I am doing questions. I am still unsure.