Hi,

So I have decided to withdraw from the Septermber test and take it in December. I am averaging at around 165 need to push it to a 170 plus. Would upgrading to Ultimate+ be useful? Is it worth the extra $200? I know what the added features are, wanted to know from people's experience if it is worth it.

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hello,

so the study schedule shows that for the 1st couple of weeks its all information based. and the last few weeks are mainly for prep drilling and full tests. Considering I am limited on time, is it good enough to follow the syllabus without prepping/solving sections on the side?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-71-section-1-question-20/

In theory, I understand why A, B, D, and E are incorrect answers.

However, C is a challenge for me to accept. Just because there are other products that constitute the full income of a sheep farmer both locally and internationally, it's not like we know how much of their prior business depended on sales in those areas.

For example,

Income:

2% domestically and internationally - muttton

2% domestically and internationally - sheepskins

2% domestically and internationally - "other products"

4% domestic - wool sales

90% internationally - wool sales

I'm no expert in sales, but hypothetically wouldn't an increase in the biggest portion of your income cover and possibly still leave you with profit in the event that the lowest portions of your income decreased? I would love for someone to point out what I'm not seeing.

Thank you for all help!

Hi all! Was just wondering what your advice is regarding filling in the answers on test day.. should I bubble in as I go or wait until the end and risk missing the last question or so? Thanks!

Does anyone here have any experience writing the LSAT in China? I'll be moving there soon for school and I plan on writing at the Beijing testing centre in December.

I have heard that LSAC makes the games section of the Chinese LSAT harder, whereas, LR and RC are often slightly easier questions. Are these largely internet rumours, or is there any truth to them?

Any other advice is also welcome :)

Thanks!

I'm unfortunately taking the LSAT coming up this Saturday, but I feel that I'm not entirely ready or maybe just discouraged. My score has fluctuated from a 155-162 with getting a nearly perfect score on the logic games. The fluctuation is mainly due to my inconsistent LR score. Even if I receive the lowest of that range, I'm nervous it won't be enough to get into the school I'm looking at, which is FIU. My gpa from college was a 3.49 with majors in Neurobiology and Neuropsychology. I've been out of school for two years, but unfortunately I didn't gain any law experience. However, I was a bartender and bar manager for 5 years at the same job that my GM wrote a very strong LOR. I also have another strong LOR from when I was a TA in undergrad. I'm in need of words of encouragement that there is some hope to get into FIU. I don't want to feel hopeless before going into the test this Saturday.

I've never been a good note taker or for that matter known what to do with a highlighter, so I'm reaching out to you guys/gals to see if those of you better at this than I am could lend a hand? Sharing any techniques, or methods is more than welcome. In other words, I'd like to hear your personal style of doing things (i.e. color coordinating, brackets, etc.) in hopes that I could incorporate it into my own mode of attacking reading comprehension. Thanks everyone!

That's my only question to be honest... I've scored 164 on a few occasions before but these new tests dropped me closer to a 160 so I'm most likely postponing to December. Just wondering if I go over past tests, drill LG and BR, it should be a realistic goal to get to 165 average by December, right? Thanks for the feedback. I know i've posted a couple times now recently but I just want to make sure I'm setting realistic goals.

Is there a study group for dec lsat? Should we start one?!

I took Dec 2015 and cancelled it. I wonder if I don't take LSAT this December and the limit would expire, right?

I'm preparing for the Feb LSAT if my PT falls into 170s. I am more likely to apply next circle year.

Hey everyone,

I just started the Core Curriculum and its been good to me! However, I was hoping for some clarification. When doing LR or RC are we actually supposed to take note of the grammar and phrasing stuff mentally (i.e. in my head say okay this is the subject and this is the verb or okay this is referring back to this concept)?

Or is this just drill stuff and that is unnecessary?

Thanks!

Currently in need of some last minute advice right now. I took the June 2016 lsat and scored 163. I was averaging around a 166 during my practice tests before this so I immediately signed up to take this Sept exam.

However the studying for my second exam has been much harder than the first time around and I just can't seem to score better than 163-164, often times scoring below it.

I know the raw score between these scores is only a few points, and honestly I feel with the right logic games/ RC passages I can hit my goal of a 165. So should I still sit for the test on Saturday and hope for the best, or simply cancel now. If I dont feel confident I can always cancel my scores after, but I fear I may think I did well and actually got a lower score than before.

Would me canceling and applying within the next few weeks to my dream law school with my163 (Fordham their range is 161-165) be preferable, or should I at least try for a higher score? I would love to be a little higher in their range, but I fear getting a lower/ the same score would hurt my application.

Hi,

I read slow and I don't think I can finish all of the passages within the time.

If I try to read all of them I rush through reading passages and not fully understand what it's talking about and miss questions.

So I'm thinking whether I should only do 3 passages and try to answer all questions correctly...

In this case, is there any way I know which ones to read? How to decide which one to read? For the one I do not read, I will jsut randomly put answers I guess...

Which is actually more efficient to get more points?

Thank you

Hi, I'm hoping I can get some responses for the following concerns:

Core Curriculum

I've been steadily going through the CC, and it has been a slow process (I'm trying to do as many of the problem sets I can). However, I often feel bad about myself due to the fact that I get questions wrong once past "medium" level sets. For example, on medium difficulty I may get one wrong (for SA, for example). But, when I start getting to the harder difficulty sets, I'm bound to get 1-2 wrong per set. (1) Is this normal? I mean, (2) upon going through the lesson on how to tackle the specific argument type, should we be able to get almost every one of the questions from the problem sets correct? (3) How is/was your experience with this (did you hardly get any questions wrong)?

Applications

The deadline is November 1st, and I want to get started on my applications, but I'm really worried about the personal statement portion. I have very little work experience during UG, and no volunteering (I fucked up, I know). My GPA is very strong if that counts, but I'm not so sure how I can remedy this crappy situation. What would you suggest I focus on instead in my PS (any ideas)? My reference letters are both from profs and should be good, so I'm not too worried about that, thankfully.

Also, the maximum for personal statements and whatnot tends to range from 2000-5000 characters (from what I've seen), but is it advisable to actually write that much? I would assume being sweet and short would be better, but again, I have no knowledge on this.

If anyone can help and respond to some of my questions with beneficial information, I'd really appreciate it!

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Just as the title says...

Is there anything suggests which to use in reading the stimulus?

Thanks

Can someone help me understand this one? I got it wrong and I understand why the correct answer is correct but not why the incorrect answers are incorrect.

I thought the flaw was Tim using his grandpa as a counterexample to the experts position. My thought was even though the experts had no way of knowing about this specific case, if they conducted studies/experiments they would have accounted for outliers such as Tim's grandpa.

A) This is correct because Tim uses counterexample (his grandpa) to refute a probabilistic conclusion (it is very likely to be harmful to the smokers health). The reason this is correct is also because "very likely" allows for other cases such as Tim's grandpa. I was wavering between this one and B but went with B.

B) I really can't figure out a way to eliminate this answer choice. The information was specific because it was T's grandpa, the only thing I can think of is maybe "information unavailable to experts in the field" and the fact that perhaps the experts were including outliers in their research/assessments prior to making a claim about the future health of smokers. ???

C) I think C is wrong because the experts do not explicitly discount the information of Tim's grandpa, they never mention it.

D) This I'm completely lost on.

E) It never indicates experts that are in agreement with each other and how they derived that agreement, it's focus is on discounting/eliminating their stance on the health of long term smokers.

Thank you in advance, I am most appreciative.

Question about this question and the answers, particularly C and D. The question is a resolve the paradox in which we are told that auto safety experts are concerned about the "increasing popularity" of SUV vehicles, after being told that they are "safer" than small cars in the even of a accident, and that experts have cited their increasing pop as an alarming trend after looking at traffic fatality statistics.

My thinking for C was that if there are more people inside of an SUV, than all other things equal, there would be more people involved in a accident with an SUV than involving a small car, so that would increase the probability of an individual sustaining injuries and/or fatalities in any given accident involving an SUV vs. a small car.

JY in explaining C, comes up with an equation involving this answer which is completely out of left field and that I have no clue where he gets. With D, the correct answer says that their are more fatalities on average between collisions involving small cars and SUV's. My question is that why would the increasing popularity of SUV be an alarming trend, if it is the case that more fatalities occur on average between SUV and malls cars, then wouldn't the increasing pop of the SUV be a good thing, because it would decrease the proportion of SMALL cars and increase the proportion of SUV because b people are dring them instead of msall cars, thereby decreasing the likelihood of collision between small and large cars and lowering the average number of fatalies by decreasing the overall frequency of such occurrences?

Now I'm anticipating that someone will say that "just because they (SUV) are more popular that doesn't mean people will more instead of small cars, but then I don't know how you are supposed to interpret that fact then. Are we supposed to thing that there are therefore more SUV IN ADDITION to small cars on the road now, and that there are now a lager number of cars on the road in total, and that every the popularity means that no one will in fact drive a SUV INSTEAD of a small cars. Is that an invalid interpretation of "assumption". TIA

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-75-section-1-question-06/

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Hi guys,

I took PT 78 today after having taken this exam on the official test date and got a 166, which was much better than my first score. Would the score I got for this exam count as a fresh take? I didnt review PT 78 after I got my score report. This is one of the few potentially fresh takes that I have left and I would like to know how much weight I can put on this score to be reflective of my skills and test day performance

I got this question correct, but I wanted to review it because I was really confused with the answer choices.

So, it's a flaw in the reasoning. My whole thought process with the stimulus is/was that the flaw is you cannot assume that since a tax of 1% per gallon would raise one billion dollars/year at consumption rates, a tax of 50% per gallon would yield 50 billion dollars per year. Just because the tax is a certain percentage/dollars does not mean that amount would be doubled. Am I correct in thinking about the flaw this way? I took micro and macroeconomics a really long time so other than the law of supply and demand I don't really remember much for example elasticity.. I know revenue is cost-profit or is it the other way around. I'm really confused so if someone could help me out, I would be most appreciative!

My reasoning is below:

A) the data is not irrelevant, in fact, I would say it is relevant to discussing the flaw in the reasoning.

B) I was thinking about this one for a minute, but then I thought the author is not discussing current consumption figures but rather hypothetical/future consumption figures according to tax policies.

C) I chose this because I thought you cannot assume since a tax of one percent per gallon yields one billion dollars that a tax of fifty percent will yield fifty billion dollars.

D) I was considering this also, but then I couldn't pinpoint the cause and effect, all I could think of was there are two potential situations and we have no idea of the second one is really possible or not.

E) This one I was totally lost on because there is no discussion of morality, it's purely economic reasoning. I ignored this answer choice and focused on the others.

PLEASE HELP!!!!! thanks in advance!

I went through JY's explanation for this question, but i think that explanation ignores this reasoning with the choice D.

I'm still not sure why the credited answer is correct and another one wrong.

I think C perfectly supports the idea that stylistic portrayals are important for comedies because due to C that is where comedies should find humor and "humor is important for comedy". So the criticism because the film has stylistic portrayals (non-realistic) is misguided. in this case resulting film is funny" supports the idea that that it's funny due to stylistic portrayals. Why is C not correct? Unfortunately JY video glosses over this answer choice.

D is really weird because the right answer has an issue that can by itself be a classic flaw question: "a film is successful doesn't mean that it's criticism for not being realistic is misguided". I think that itself makes D a poor choice.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-73-section-2-question-06/

Hey Guys,

Question about PT 76, Part 2 (LR), #25:

The answer choices really messed with me because I was between c and d. C plays with the negatives a lot. C says: NONE of the shows that Wilke and Wilke produced last year that were NOT canceled were police dramas.

Can somebody translate this? What do the two negatives mean? Do they mean a positive?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-76-section-4-question-25/

Hey everyone,

So it's been a while since I posted on here. My last post was pretty positive, I PT'd a 156 which I was excited about. I wrote the June 2016 LSAT and it kicked my a**, I was suffering from an extreme anxiety attack during the test, there was someone tapping their pencil (which is the worst thing ever!!) and I came out thinking I did "okay". I got my score back and I got a 142 which jammed me into a deep dark hole of depression, self defeat and I've had a hard time getting myself out of that hole from a 142 on my record. My PT's were constant before June, I was staying in the mid to high 150s (which isn't my target) but I was hoping I'd do better.

I'm going to re-do the 7sage core program with the LSAT Trainer and the bibles and hopefully re-write in either Dec or Feb (probably Feb) but I have a lot of avoidance / procrastination behavior (I'm ADD). I can ALWAYS find something else to do (working full time), and I find myself literally avoiding drilling this core material into my head. How do you guys keep yourself focused on the end goal, and not prior defeat? I'm extremely frustrated and mildly embarrassed that it has taken me this long with the LSAT, it feels like a big roller coaster for me.

Hoping someone in a similar situation can shed some light.

Thanks,

Chels