Hey guys,

I just upgraded from the starter to premium. I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm almost certain now that i will be writing in December instead of September. Mainly because I haven't done any recent practice tests. I've only gotten to PT 39 (timed). The premium goes up to PT 58. My main question is when should i start doing recent preptests? I have the rest of September, October and November to study and I'm not sure how to proceed considering I only have explanations for up to PT58 on 7sage and have no experience with more recent tests! Thanks in advance!

I cannot seem to understand this for the various ways unless can appear in a sentence. I have been told to replace the unless with if not but also that the statement thats connected to the unless is the necessary condition. How can it be made an if not (making it sufficient) and also be necessary? Here are a couple of various ways I have seen unless in sentences: Unless I get a good grade, I will not go out; No student can go out unless they get a 4.0. To my understanding, you diagram these as follows:

If go out>>> got good grade

If student got 4.0, then they can go out

I gather these from sort of thinking about the relationship but I want a simple short cut to use. Any ideas?

Hi all,

Just looking for a little feedback/wanting to confirm I'm making the right choice here. I am 3+ years out of school and committed to applying to schools this year. I took the LSAT over 2 years ago with minimal studying and scored below the 25% at all T14 schools that I now plan on applying to this cycle. I will be taking the LSAT in December and my current PT average is at the median for about half the schools I plan on applying to in the T14. I hope to raise my score 3-5 points over the next few months, for a little bit greater margin of error for a score I'd be happy with. My GPA is at or above the median for most schools.

My questions is, since I could technically submit a completed application at schools now and then indicate I am retaking the December test, is there any advantage to doing this? I am leaning towards preparing all my applications and then if all goes as planned submitting my applications within a few days of LSAT scores being released in January but just wanted to make sure I was thinking this through correctly and not putting myself at any disadvantage.

Thanks for any advice :)

Hi guys,

Does anyone know if a services card would count as an acceptable form of ID for test day? I just called LSAC to ask, but the person that answered didn't seem too sure and told me to send a photo of the ID to be sure. Hopefully someone here has used one as an ID before and knows?

I'm finding a pattern where the questions I mostly get wrong are inference and flaw, more so inference however.

I don't have a problem diagramming (at least I think I don't) but I seem to be misunderstanding the questions a lot!

What do you guys suggest? Am I overthinking the questions, how can I improve in these two types of questions?

Thanks!

Hi guys,

I only have 7 raw tests left. I'm taking the September administration but would like to keep approx. 3-4 raw tests on hand in the event that all does not go as planned and I end up taking December as well. I can't decide if it's best to go ahead and take all the 70 series I have left or save one or two just in case. I'd appreciate any advice on which PTs to take between now and September 24.

Here's my list of available PTs:

PT59

PT60

PT67

PT70

PT72

PT76

Superprep II Undisclosed PT

I want to buy books to prep myself for the LSAT, however there are so many choices to choose from! It makes it almost impossible to make up my mind. Please help!

Which sections in the core curriculum would you say are major key?

Hi everyone. I am struggling with what to do. Here's my story:

I have been studying on and off for the LSAT since January. I originally intended to self study with the LSAT trainer and then do tons of practice tests. I found it very hard to motivate myself and ended up banging my head against the wall because I had no idea why I was getting answers wrong. This led to a ton of long breaks where I would do nothing and then feel guilty about not studying. I am a senior in college and not even 100% sure that I want to go to law school. I am planning on taking the test and applying to see what my options are. In June I decided to postpone based on the fact that I knew I would not score well and had not given it my all. I decided that I needed a class to help me.

I decided to take Manhattan's Live Online course. I started off strong, doing all the homework and actively participating in class. Then somewhere along the way I got discouraged and skipped three sessions. I know it sounds lazy but I promise I am not. I was just not motivated and frustrated that my score was not increasing (I was consistently scoring around a 153). I would say I went about another month with not doing any prep except maybe a few games here and there and then went to class last week. I just feel so frustrated by the test. I know I have the ability to do well, I have scored well on tons of other standardized tests and consider myself a very intelligent person. I'm just not sure what to do. I don't think I should take it in September because I will not be happy with a score in the 150's. I started off this process thinking that I could seriously study until I got a 170+ but I have no motivation to do so. Has anyone been in a similar position? Should I take another class (in-person)? In the past people have recommended that I take breaks but breaks for me end up being weeks or months long.

I also realize that I am very young and am not sure why I feel the need to go directly to law school, it's not going anywhere. I have also thought about the fact that I am a person who likes to have a plan and since I am a senior and unsure about what I'm going to do after college - I like the idea of law school because it is a laid out process that I can follow and count on.

ANYWAYS sorry for the rant but I need some help. Let me know what you think!

I have been flagging questions that maybe didn't sink in as I go, so I can go back an review. After you complete the CC would you go ahead and take a PT? and then go back and refresh where you are weak?? or would you go back and refresh on skills you didn't pick up well? I am not sure if I am ready to burn tests just yet since I am going to be traveling and teaching ESL so I am wondering if I should just keep going over CC and then take the tests closer to when I take the LSAT... which right now to be honest is in the air... as I have gave myself a window of Dec through June... and accepted it is ok to start law school in Fall of 2018... I just know I am going to finally be complete with CC soon and I don't want to burn precious tests if I am better reviewing.. or should I burn a 40s test to see where I am and start over??? Sorry my ADHD brain thinks about this stuff and won't shut off until I have a plan ha! Thanks guys!

So here is the deal, i am international student and do not qualify for fee waivers through LSAC. I need to beg each school individually to help me with some sort of the fee waiver :) Today I have received an email from Washington Uni that I can request a fee waiver, when I click that link it offers me to send them an email. Here is the deal, what do I write in that email? "I am such and such would like to request fee waiver"?

Thanks guys, you are always so helpful

Ok, so I am new to 7sage and so far it has been amazing. I'm learning so much, its awesome. However, I am troubled cuz I dont know if I am selling myself short using the LSAT Starter package because I'm only getting the easiest questions. So I would hate to think that I am doing all this work and learning so much, but there is really a cap on what I am learning because of the package. So if anyone has upgraded or knows the quantifiable difference between the LSAT starter and other programs, could you explain the difference? Like are the tougher questions built into the lessons or is it like harder options later in this course, or how does that work exactly? Any insight would be awesome!

solved the problem

Hey, I posted a discussion maybe like 10 months ago on all the materials I'll need to prepare for the LSAT. I was told to get the ultimate + package, The LSAT Trainer, which I already have, and PTs. Is this still correct, or do I need any other additional materials?

Also, which PTs do I need and can I still purchase the PDFs? I know for logic games, I'm going to need multiple copies and I would much rather have PDFs because it much easier.

I'm literally going to purchase the course on Sunday and get started, so I'm just making sure I have all the materials I need.

Thanks.

My goal score is 154-157, and I'd be really happy with anything in that range. My question is: what should I be PTing at so that I am safe to get a score in that range? These are my PT scores:

PT36 Dec 2001 2016-08-18 3 weeks ago 160

PT52 Sep 2007 2016-08-26 2 weeks ago 159

PT41 Oct 2003 2016-08-30 1 week ago 152

PT53 Dec 2007 2016-08-30 1 week ago 153

PT54 Jun 2008 2016-08-31 1 week ago 154

PT55 Oct 2008 2016-09-08 7 hours ago 154

The times aren't exactly when I did the tests, they're just when I entered them into the Scorer. I write on September 24th, by the way, and I know my scores are kind of inconsistent, but I'm gonna write 10 more exams before test day, and I'll keep you guys posted. But is my goal feasible in the timeframe I have?

im trying to understand why it is such that after a while of scoring in the same range on a section or the entire test, all of a sudden it just all "clicks" and makes sense. like for the longest time ive consistently been struggling with the Logical Reasoning section and no matter how hard i tried i was routinely scored single digits, double digits if im lucky. Now when i do a LR section i can not only score 17-18 consistently, but when im reading questions and looking for answer choices i can notice an answer choice and (mentally) go "yup, thats the right answer" without hesitation or self doubt. This little phenomena i find to be perplexing because it wasnt like i was studying even more, or revising. i just stopped studying all together for a month and a half (i know i shouldnt have, with the lsat coming up), and now got back to it. im sure some of y'all have experienced something similar so what do y'all think it happens like that?

To relieve some Pre-September test tension and anxiety, I thought it might be fun to predict what we think some of the topics may be for Reading Comprehension. It'd be fun to go back after and see if anyone actually got it right.

I'm going to go ahead and suggest "human population/migration patterns" as a potential topic.

I've heard a few mixed reviews on the best time to apply. For example, one article expressed that if you do not apply by the end of October the chances of you getting accepted are substantially more slim. Then another article expressed that as long as it is before January there is no rush. Basically, what I want to know is when is the best time to apply before waiting begins to handicap the chances of being accepted?

What do you think are cons and pros applying early decision? Also, can I apply early decision to a couple of schools? Like apply to those which are very unlikely to get me accepted and one that is somewhere in a middle?

Y'all,

I'm being super-efficient at procrastinating right now, and am wondering if anyone had any thoughts regarding how successful introverted/quiet personality types would be at law school. I am an abysmal public speaker (working on it, but still really bad!), and have a mild stutter that always makes its unwelcome presence known whenever I'm stressed, angry or tired. Would I succeed at law school, or would every day be an uphill battle?

Thanks in advance, fam!

Hi All,

Just to provide some background information, I have been studying for about 5 months now, both on my own (using Powerscore trilogy and 7sage) and have recently completed a 3 months in-person LSAT course in the city I'm in. When I first started studying I got about 9 questions wrong for an LR section (untimed) and slowly improved to getting 5-7 questions wrong under timed conditions. I thought I was finally on the right track and was looking forward to seeing more improvements until when I recently started getting more questions wrong than I initially started (12-14 questions wrong both under timed and untimed conditions)... I realized that usually when I go back to the questions I got wrong, the correct AC was one of the last two AC's that I was contemplating between before I chose the wrong one if that's any good sign.

I am watching the videos on 7sage again as well as reviewing questions I got wrong but feel quite defeated at this point. I have postponed my September exam to December (thank God!) and am really hoping to get a great score (170+) in Dec. I've been really careful not to burn too many questions but at this point I'm thinking maybe I should go back to early exams (PT 7 to 18) and take as much questions as possible to solidify my understanding of all the core principles. My question is, should I go through the LR sections as an entire section or drill them by question types? Also, is there anything else you guys recommend me do for the month of September? Really appreciate your help in advance!

I was just wondering what do you guys consistently score on LR?

Hey guys! If you're taking the September LSAT and your account is inconveniently set to expire a few days before the test date, just email me (dillon@7sage.com) and I'll extend your account for free through the September test. (Make sure you include your 7Sage email!)

For those of you who are expiring after, good luck on the LSAT! We here at 7Sage are rooting for you.

I am having trouble trying to narrow down the person I should ask to write me a second letter of recommendation. I already have a professor who has taught me for three years. However, I have been volunteering at a homeless shelter/soup kitchen on a monthly basis for a year and the manager offered to write me a letter. Moreover, this summer I worked for the government (employment and social services) in an office and my supervisor had also offered to write me a letter (I've only known her for 4 months). Finally, I've worked at my father's law firm for four summers but I think asking his partner for a letter would look a little sketch seeing my last name on the letter. I can't decide who can possibly write me a stronger letter or who is the better choice?

Does anyone know if OLSAS keep letters of recommendations on file for an extended period of time? I am wondering this because I applied a couple of years ago and I'm reapplying this year. If they keep letters on file, then i won't need to ask my professors again